Trade idea: Would you trade Tatum for John Collins and SGA?

[Tr1boy]

You spend years or even decades trying to find a Tatum level talent for your franchise. 

You don't trade him at age 22.  Plus you have him under team control until at least 2024-2025. 

Moving him right now would be a terrible organizational decision.

Celts already brought in Irving who was considered a higher level offensive machine than Tatum. 

Celts had an all star dysfunctional team 2 years ago

There has been no drought/decades in waiting for "talent"

[Donoghus]

You spend years or even decades trying to find a Tatum level talent for your franchise. 

You don't trade him at age 22.  Plus you have him under team control until at least 2024-2025. 

Moving him right now would be a terrible organizational decision.

Celts already brought in Irving who was considered a higher level offensive machine than Tatum. 

Celts had an all star dysfunctional team 2 years ago

There has been no drought/decades in waiting for "talent"

I'm talking about basketball franchises in general. I bet you have about 29 other GMs that would kill to have Tatum on their team in a vacuum.

And Tatum has a higher ceiling than Irving ever did.  And certainly higher than Horford, Hayward, & Kemba.

[GreenCoffeeBean]

Yes considering OKC wouldn’t trade SGA for Tatum straight up. SGA is the epitome of the modern PG you can win a championship with (that isn’t named Steph Curry). Collins is just a cherry on top.

Tatum is an interesting piece because he has rare position versatility with his combination of size and shot making. But because we have Jaylen This also makes him easily replaceable. Jaylen can slide to the 3, we get another good 3&D SG to replace Tatum’s shooting, and now we have Collins as a PF.

This trade never happens, because SGA is better than Tatum currently. But regardless this team is at a fork in the road and needs to decide what its identity will be.

[seancally]

Tatum has watched too much Kobe Bryant videos. He is a major ball stopper. It is up to Brad to snap him out of it.

Advice to Tatum

Brad: quicken the pace and ball movement

Kobe: Dont pass if you dont have to

Tatum overrides Stevens and listen to Kobe soul on his shoulder

Paranoid side of me thinks Kobe has pulled an inception in Tatum mindset to sabotage Celts chances at success

The reality of Kobe mindset works for Kobe

Tatum should really try to mirror Leonard or AD game/mindset

Not Kobe or Durant

Well Kobe won 5 titles, so...

Ignoring the obvious youth/star points for Tatum (only because others have made that point already), you also have him on a max contract that hasn’t even kicked in yet. So what, pay him the max, trade him immediately? good grief. He’s under team control for like 5 years. Stop.

[Tr1boy]

Tatum has watched too much Kobe Bryant videos. He is a major ball stopper. It is up to Brad to snap him out of it.

Advice to Tatum

Brad: quicken the pace and ball movement

Kobe: Dont pass if you dont have to

Tatum overrides Stevens and listen to Kobe soul on his shoulder

Paranoid side of me thinks Kobe has pulled an inception in Tatum mindset to sabotage Celts chances at success

The reality of Kobe mindset works for Kobe

Tatum should really try to mirror Leonard or AD game/mindset

Not Kobe or Durant

Well Kobe won 5 titles, so...

Ignoring the obvious youth/star points for Tatum (only because others have made that point already), you also have him on a max contract that hasn’t even kicked in yet. So what, pay him the max, trade him immediately? good grief. He’s under team control for like 5 years. Stop.

This is silly. So Jordan won 6 rings

Should any athletic wing try to emulate his mindset/game?

Its one in a million these players come around in our lifetime

Its like saying a phd student who is brilliant can become Jeff Bezos.   Bezos can teach him everything he knows. But he wont become Bezos

"Situation reaction" is unteachable

[gouki88]

No, we're giving up the best player.

The thread title is also misleading - the question should be whether you'd trade Tatum, Kemba and Smart for SGA and John Collins

[gouki88]

Tatum has watched too much Kobe Bryant videos. He is a major ball stopper. It is up to Brad to snap him out of it.

Advice to Tatum

Brad: quicken the pace and ball movement

Kobe: Dont pass if you dont have to

Tatum overrides Stevens and listen to Kobe soul on his shoulder

Paranoid side of me thinks Kobe has pulled an inception in Tatum mindset to sabotage Celts chances at success

The reality of Kobe mindset works for Kobe

Tatum should really try to mirror Leonard or AD game/mindset

Not Kobe or Durant

Well Kobe won 5 titles, so...

Ignoring the obvious youth/star points for Tatum (only because others have made that point already), you also have him on a max contract that hasn’t even kicked in yet. So what, pay him the max, trade him immediately? good grief. He’s under team control for like 5 years. Stop.

This is silly. So Jordan won 6 rings

Should any athletic wing try to emulate his mindset/game?

Its one in a million these players come around in our lifetime

Its like saying a phd student who is brilliant can become Jeff Bezos.   Bezos can teach him everything he knows. But he wont become Bezos

"Situation reaction" is unteachable

This overreaction to a couple of training sessions Tatum had with Kobe is ludicrous! There is literally no problem in moulding your game on Kobe. I'd rather he copy Kobe than Pierce, given Kobe was better, more successful and lasted longer.

[Tr1boy]

No, we're giving up the best player.

The thread title is also misleading - the question should be whether you'd trade Tatum, Kemba and Smart for SGA and John Collins

Yes and no

Cap room needs to be cleared for Collins and SGA sooner than later

Plus you conveniently  left out all those 1sts picks

Can we also stop mentioning Walker like he is some important piece?

Last night game showed me what a selfish player he is.  And we lost similar fashion to Raptors and Heat in the playoffs. Stop shooting when its not your night.

[wiley]

As good as Tatum is, I don't believe the Thunder would give up SGA, Dort and 4 firsts, plus 2 more swaps..for Tatum and Kemba.  Where does that leave their rebuild? 

[gouki88]

No, we're giving up the best player.

The thread title is also misleading - the question should be whether you'd trade Tatum, Kemba and Smart for SGA and John Collins

Yes and no

Room needs to be cleared for cap space for Collins and SGA soner than later

Plus you conveniently  left out all those 1sts picks

Can we also stop mentioning Walker like he is some important piece?

Last night game showed me what a selfish player he is.  And we lost similar fashion to Raptors and Heat in the playoffs. Stop shooting when its not your night.

Well thankfully GMs don't make trades based off of one game

[Tr1boy]

Tatum has watched too much Kobe Bryant videos. He is a major ball stopper. It is up to Brad to snap him out of it.

Advice to Tatum

Brad: quicken the pace and ball movement

Kobe: Dont pass if you dont have to

Tatum overrides Stevens and listen to Kobe soul on his shoulder

Paranoid side of me thinks Kobe has pulled an inception in Tatum mindset to sabotage Celts chances at success

The reality of Kobe mindset works for Kobe

Tatum should really try to mirror Leonard or AD game/mindset

Not Kobe or Durant

Well Kobe won 5 titles, so...

Ignoring the obvious youth/star points for Tatum (only because others have made that point already), you also have him on a max contract that hasn’t even kicked in yet. So what, pay him the max, trade him immediately? good grief. He’s under team control for like 5 years. Stop.

This is silly. So Jordan won 6 rings

Should any athletic wing try to emulate his mindset/game?

Its one in a million these players come around in our lifetime

Its like saying a phd student who is brilliant can become Jeff Bezos.   Bezos can teach him everything he knows. But he wont become Bezos

"Situation reaction" is unteachable

This overreaction to a couple of training sessions Tatum had with Kobe is ludicrous! There is literally no problem in moulding your game on Kobe. I'd rather he copy Kobe than Pierce, given Kobe was better, more successful and lasted longer.

You must be serious lol

Its no wonder some of you folks are ok with what he does. His ball stopping ways.

 its hurting the team

[mobilija]

In the spirit of this thread...

Wouldn't a trade centered around Brown and Vuveccic (sorry for spelling choke) be better?

Trade machine gurus play w that one and get us a shooter and/or 3&d wing to go with it....

[Tr1boy]

As good as Tatum is, I don't believe the Thunder would give up SGA, Dort and 4 firsts, plus 2 more swaps..for Tatum and Kemba.  Where does that leave their rebuild?

They have 17 1sts.  4 1sts and 2 swaps is like an appetizer

OKC can try their chance at Lebron with Tatum, Walker and Horford

[tonydelk]

You lost me at trade Jayson Tatum.

yeah.  When the team isn't doing well let's trade our franchise cornerstone player.  Great plan.  Do you play fantasy hoops? Is it a money league?  If so can I join?

[RJ87]

Last night game showed me what a selfish player he is.  And we lost similar fashion to Raptors and Heat in the playoffs. Stop shooting when its not your night.

Lol. This is... a take.

Jayson was 10 of 24 last night. Not great. But better than Jaylen's 7 of 23 and Kemba's 5 of 21. Unless we were hoping Tristan Thompson was going to channel his inner Hakeem, I'm not sure who's night it was.