Summer 2018 verified moves

[Moranis]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him. 

[rondofan1255]

Free agent Kyle O'Quinn has agreed to a one-year, $4.5M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league sources tell Yahoo.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1015248589994553344?s=21

[saltlover]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him.

Euroleague IS the regular season, as is his Turkish league.  Fenerbahce plays in two leagues.  They’re both regular season, although Euroleague is higher quality.  If you subtract out Euroleague you’re a) getting smaller sample size, and b) only taking the numbers against the weaker competition.  You need to combine them both — otherwise you’re simply doing it wrong.

And remember, the Euro 3-point line is 1 foot 8 inches closer — that’s enough to make a difference.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Free agent Kyle O'Quinn has agreed to a one-year, $4.5M deal with the Indiana Pacers, league sources tell Yahoo.

https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1015248589994553344?s=21

Yikes. I like the Pacers. I like O'Quinn, Oladipo, Turner, and Evans together.

[greece66]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014869649337520130

[celticsclay]

https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/1014869649337520130

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/7/6/17538272/philadelphia-76ers-free-agency-kawhi-leonard-ben-simmons

[Moranis]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him.

Euroleague IS the regular season, as is his Turkish league.  Fenerbahce plays in two leagues.  They’re both regular season, although Euroleague is higher quality.  If you subtract out Euroleague you’re a) getting smaller sample size, and b) only taking the numbers against the weaker competition.  You need to combine them both — otherwise you’re simply doing it wrong.

And remember, the Euro 3-point line is 1 foot 8 inches closer — that’s enough to make a difference.

Then go ahead and combine them.  In 12-13 Euroleage he shot 36 for 116 in 26 games and in the other 33 games he shot 58 for 145.  In 13-14 Euroleage he shot 37 for 89 in 24 games.  In the other 37 games that season he shot 45 of 112.  For 14-15 the numbers are 26 for 74 in 29 Euroleague games and 35 for 89 in 34 other games.  So in his last 3 years in Europe in 183 games he shot nearly 38% from 3, though that is pretty clearly skewed by his awful stint for Laboral in the Euroleague in 12-13.  Take those 26 games out he is just shy of 40%.

Yes the line is closer, but Bjelica has pretty clearly shown a history of being a good to great shooter, especially when he plays for better teams (which Minnesota finally was). 

[greece66]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him.

Euroleague IS the regular season, as is his Turkish league.  Fenerbahce plays in two leagues.  They’re both regular season, although Euroleague is higher quality.  If you subtract out Euroleague you’re a) getting smaller sample size, and b) only taking the numbers against the weaker competition.  You need to combine them both — otherwise you’re simply doing it wrong.

And remember, the Euro 3-point line is 1 foot 8 inches closer — that’s enough to make a difference.

Then go ahead and combine them.  In 12-13 Euroleage he shot 36 for 116 in 26 games and in the other 33 games he shot 58 for 145.  In 13-14 Euroleage he shot 37 for 89 in 24 games.  In the other 37 games that season he shot 45 of 112.  For 14-15 the numbers are 26 for 74 in 29 Euroleague games and 35 for 89 in 34 other games.  So in his last 3 years in Europe in 183 games he shot nearly 38% from 3, though that is pretty clearly skewed by his awful stint for Laboral in the Euroleague in 12-13.  Take those 26 games out he is just shy of 40%.

Yes the line is closer, but Bjelica has pretty clearly shown a history of being a good to great shooter, especially when he plays for better teams (which Minnesota finally was).

This isnt what most ppl would call "a good to great shooter".

[Moranis]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him.

Euroleague IS the regular season, as is his Turkish league.  Fenerbahce plays in two leagues.  They’re both regular season, although Euroleague is higher quality.  If you subtract out Euroleague you’re a) getting smaller sample size, and b) only taking the numbers against the weaker competition.  You need to combine them both — otherwise you’re simply doing it wrong.

And remember, the Euro 3-point line is 1 foot 8 inches closer — that’s enough to make a difference.

Then go ahead and combine them.  In 12-13 Euroleage he shot 36 for 116 in 26 games and in the other 33 games he shot 58 for 145.  In 13-14 Euroleage he shot 37 for 89 in 24 games.  In the other 37 games that season he shot 45 of 112.  For 14-15 the numbers are 26 for 74 in 29 Euroleague games and 35 for 89 in 34 other games.  So in his last 3 years in Europe in 183 games he shot nearly 38% from 3, though that is pretty clearly skewed by his awful stint for Laboral in the Euroleague in 12-13.  Take those 26 games out he is just shy of 40%.

Yes the line is closer, but Bjelica has pretty clearly shown a history of being a good to great shooter, especially when he plays for better teams (which Minnesota finally was).

This isnt what most ppl would call "a good to great shooter".

he shot over 41% last year in the NBA in just under 3 attempts a game.  The league average was 36%. 

[greece66]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him.

Euroleague IS the regular season, as is his Turkish league.  Fenerbahce plays in two leagues.  They’re both regular season, although Euroleague is higher quality.  If you subtract out Euroleague you’re a) getting smaller sample size, and b) only taking the numbers against the weaker competition.  You need to combine them both — otherwise you’re simply doing it wrong.

And remember, the Euro 3-point line is 1 foot 8 inches closer — that’s enough to make a difference.

Then go ahead and combine them.  In 12-13 Euroleage he shot 36 for 116 in 26 games and in the other 33 games he shot 58 for 145.  In 13-14 Euroleage he shot 37 for 89 in 24 games.  In the other 37 games that season he shot 45 of 112.  For 14-15 the numbers are 26 for 74 in 29 Euroleague games and 35 for 89 in 34 other games.  So in his last 3 years in Europe in 183 games he shot nearly 38% from 3, though that is pretty clearly skewed by his awful stint for Laboral in the Euroleague in 12-13.  Take those 26 games out he is just shy of 40%.

Yes the line is closer, but Bjelica has pretty clearly shown a history of being a good to great shooter, especially when he plays for better teams (which Minnesota finally was).

This isnt what most ppl would call "a good to great shooter".

he shot over 41% last year in the NBA in just under 3 attempts a game.  The league average was 36%.

Apparently I have a reading disability because I think the previous posts are about his career in Europe.

[Moranis]

Philadelphia sign Nemanja Bjelica..

lot of wings

Bjelica is a 6'10" PF.  Signed to fill Illyasova's role.

better or worse

Better for Philly....

You’re saying Bjelica is better for Philly than Ilyasova?  I rather disagree with that.  Don’t see him shooting 41% again from 3.

why don't you think he can do that again?

In his 3 NBA seasons he's shot, 38.4%, 31.6% and 41.5% on 2.1, 2.7 and 2.7 attempts.  I'd say the last two are outliers and he's likely to be in the 37 to 38 range.

I agree the 2nd year is an outlier, but why shouldn't he shoot better with more experience and on a better team like this 3rd year.  He had seasons in Europe where he shot nearly 50% from 3.  Bjelica has excellent shooting touch.  It is the only thing he does well.

What stats are you looking at?  He’s was a career 35% shooter from 3 in Europe, with his best season coming in at 41%, unless you’re going to count the year he went 8/18 from 3 as an actual full season number.  Considering the number of attempts and the fact that he played all of 12 games, that would be an abuse of statistics.

That was in Euroleague.  His actual regular seasons he had multiple seasons above 40% from 3.  He is inconsistent, as he does have seasons where he shoots awful.  For example, his 3 seasons for Caja Laboral he shot 43.3, 27.8, and 40 from 3.  His last 2 seasons in Europe with Fenerbache Ulker he shot 40.2 and 39.3.  So overall in 4 of his last 5 seasons in Europe he was between 39.3 and 43.3 with that weird outlier of 27.8.  The 43.3 season he didn't shoot very many, but the other seasons were all well over 2 a game (and the 40% season in Caja he was almost 4 a game).  His last 2 seasons in Euroleague with Fenerbache he shot 41.6 and 35.1.  He was also the Euroleage MVP with Fenerbache in his last year there before coming over, so he does a bit more then shoot, though shooting is his bread and butter. 

Bjelica is an excellent shooter, but he is prone to having awful shooting seasons.  His history suggests he is far more likely to shoot 40% than 30% though, especially when he is on more talented teams that open up shooting lanes for him.

Euroleague IS the regular season, as is his Turkish league.  Fenerbahce plays in two leagues.  They’re both regular season, although Euroleague is higher quality.  If you subtract out Euroleague you’re a) getting smaller sample size, and b) only taking the numbers against the weaker competition.  You need to combine them both — otherwise you’re simply doing it wrong.

And remember, the Euro 3-point line is 1 foot 8 inches closer — that’s enough to make a difference.

Then go ahead and combine them.  In 12-13 Euroleage he shot 36 for 116 in 26 games and in the other 33 games he shot 58 for 145.  In 13-14 Euroleage he shot 37 for 89 in 24 games.  In the other 37 games that season he shot 45 of 112.  For 14-15 the numbers are 26 for 74 in 29 Euroleague games and 35 for 89 in 34 other games.  So in his last 3 years in Europe in 183 games he shot nearly 38% from 3, though that is pretty clearly skewed by his awful stint for Laboral in the Euroleague in 12-13.  Take those 26 games out he is just shy of 40%.

Yes the line is closer, but Bjelica has pretty clearly shown a history of being a good to great shooter, especially when he plays for better teams (which Minnesota finally was).

This isnt what most ppl would call "a good to great shooter".

he shot over 41% last year in the NBA in just under 3 attempts a game.  The league average was 36%.

Apparently I have a reading disability because I think the previous posts are about his career in Europe.

which were in support of my contention that Bjelica's year in Minnesota last year wasn't a fluke. 

[fairweatherfan]

Tony Parker is reportedly signing with the Hornets, continuing their tradition of getting name guys 4 years too late. Guess he can hang out with Batum in Charlotte's many bistros.

[tazzmaniac]

Per Woj, Tony Parker 2yr/10M deal with Charlotte. 

Could this help placate Kawhi? 

[Monkhouse]

What the heck is Charlotte doing? They were clearly on the cusp of re-building, and now they bring in an overage Parker?

[GreenEnvy]

Per Woj, Tony Parker 2yr/10M deal with Charlotte. 

Could this help placate Kawhi?

Strange signing for both parties.

Don’t get why Charlotte would want Parker, or why Parker would leave SAS.