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Title: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 26, 2011, 04:16:24 PM
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Boston Celtics (0‐1) at Miami Heat (1‐0)
Regular Season Game #2 – Road Game #2
Tuesday, December 27, 2011
8:00 pm ET
TV: TNT
Radio: WEEI (850AM)
American Airlines Arena

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Probable Starting Matchups
Point Guard
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Rajon Rondo vs Mario Chalmers

Shooting Guard
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Ray Allen vs Dwyane Wade

Small Forward

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Sasha Pavlovic vs LeBron James

Power Forward

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Kevin Garnett vs Chris Bosh

Center

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Jermaine O'Neal vs Joel Anthony

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Reserves
Avery Bradley
Marquis Daniels
Chris Wilcox
Brandon Bass
Keyon Dooling
E'twaun Moore
Greg Stiemsma
JaJuan Johnson

Injuries

Paul Pierce (heel) day to day
Mickael Pietrus (knee) day to day

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Reserves
Norris Cole
Udonis Haslem
Juwan Howard
Shane Battier
James Jones
Terrel Harris
Dexter Pittman
Mickell Gladness

Injuries
Eddy Curry  (hip)  out
Mike Miller (hernia)  out
Shane Battier (quad) day to day

Team Connections

Mario Chalmers and Paul Pierce both attended the University of Kansas
Doc Rivers and Dwyane Wade both attended Marquette University
Jermaine O’Neal played for the Heat during the end of the 2008‐09 season
and all of the 2009‐10 season
Chris Bosh and Jermaine O’Neal were teammates in Toronto during the 2008‐09 season
Dexter Pittman and Avery Bradley were teammates at the University of Texas
Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James were teammates in Cleveland from 2004‐09
Keyon Dooling played for the Heat during the 2004‐05 season

Key Matchups

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Rajon Rondo vs Mario Chalmers
Rondo started the season aggressively.  In the opener against the Knicks he scored 31 points, pulled down 5 rebounds and dished out 13 assists.   Chalmers had 3 points 1 rebound and 4 assists in Miami's opener against Dallas.  If Rondo continues to be aggressive, he should have another big game as Chalmers struggles to contain him.  

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Kevin Garnett vs Chris Bosh
Assuming that KG won't be suspended to going after Bill Walker after the Celtics' loss to the Knicks on Sunday,  this could be another key matchup for the Celtics.  Bosh has always been slightly intimidated by KG in the past and we can only hope that this continues because the Celtics will need every advantage they can get in this game.  

Honorable Mention

Jermaine O'Neal vs Joel Anthony
Jermaine has been playing well and should have an advantage over Anthony on both ends of the court.  The Celtics need JO to be aggressive and to dominate Anthony inside.  

Brandon Bass vs Udonis Haslem
The battle of the power forwards off the bench may be a very good one.  In the Celtics opener, Bass had 20 points and 11 rebounds in a very solid effort off the bench.   Haslem had 9 points and 14 rebounds off Miami's bench on Sunday.  This could be a fun battle to watch.  

Game Notes

The Heat are coming off a blow out win over the defending champion Mavericks.    With the news that Pierce hasn't run full court yet, I don't expect him to play and it could be a very long game watching Sasha trying to keep up with LeBron.    Pietrus isn't expected to join the team until Friday.  Even at full strength, the Celtics would have their hands full with the Heat, but short handed,  it could be a very long night.  

Add to the personnel problems the fact that this is the Heat's home opener,  and the Celtics are facing a huge disadvantage in this one.  The Celtics should have the added motivation to avenge their loss in last season's playoffs but the Heat will be looking to send a message to the league, and especially the Celtics, that they are the favorites this season.

Keys to the Game

Start strong - The Celtics must get off to a better start than they did against the Knicks.  It takes too much out of them to play catch up most of the game.  

Play 48 Minutes
- If they play well throughout the game, they have to be careful not to let up too soon.  They must play hard right up until the final buzzer because it is certain that the Heat will.

Rebound and Defend - These are keys to every single game.  The team that works harder on the boards and gets stops will be the team that gives themselves a good chance to win.  
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Who on December 26, 2011, 04:33:10 PM
Nightmare of a matchup between Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James.

Going to be extremely difficult to win this game without Paul Pierce (especially w/o his defense).
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 26, 2011, 05:09:10 PM
Nightmare of a matchup between Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James.

Going to be extremely difficult to win this game without Paul Pierce (especially w/o his defense).

Yeah, if you think Melo really took it to us with Sasha and Marquis covering him . . . oh boy.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Celtics18 on December 26, 2011, 05:58:48 PM
Anyone heard any recent news on Paul?  Last I heard he was expected to be ready to play by tomorrow night's game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: StarzNBarz on December 26, 2011, 06:26:53 PM
Hopefully Pierce plays cause if not, LeBron is gonna score 40+. If you thought Melo looked unstoppable wait till Sasha is trying to guard LeBron.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 26, 2011, 06:30:19 PM
TP. Go Celtics!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Jon on December 26, 2011, 06:45:16 PM
If Pierce doesn't play, they need to tell Sasha and Marquis to stay a step and a half off LeBron and dare him to shoot. LeBron can get hot, but he's not a great shooter. If they turn him into a jump shooter, they might get lucky and see him go 5 for 18 and pull out the W.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Eddie20 on December 26, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
Nightmare of a matchup between Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James.

Going to be extremely difficult to win this game without Paul Pierce (especially w/o his defense).

Yeah, if you think Melo really took it to us with Sasha and Marquis covering him . . . oh boy.

Melo is a better scorer than James. You really have to play him tight because he can kill you with his jumper.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 26, 2011, 07:40:27 PM

Melo is a better scorer than James. You really have to play him tight because he can kill you with his jumper.
along with those elbows that he throws around so freely!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 26, 2011, 10:33:18 PM
Joey Crawford's calling the game, right?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bfrombleacher on December 27, 2011, 04:08:35 AM
Nightmare of a matchup between Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James.

Going to be extremely difficult to win this game without Paul Pierce (especially w/o his defense).

Yeah, if you think Melo really took it to us with Sasha and Marquis covering him . . . oh boy.

Melo is a better scorer than James. You really have to play him tight because he can kill you with his jumper.

But LeBron James is a better defender. We need Sasha's production on the offensive end like he did against the Knicks...oh wait.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 04:10:54 AM
Can Quisy play 48 minutes on LBJ? Might hold him to ~45 that way.

All the same, go Cs! Should be a fun game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 06:58:06 AM
TP FLCeltsfan.

Looking for better effort from the C's to start this game. I understand that in NY they started out a but sluggish.

They can win this one.

And Wade - no more wrasslin' moves. Stay away from Rondo, please.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: OhioGreen on December 27, 2011, 07:09:32 AM
Heat home opener---showtime! Brutal!
On the bright side, at least we'll get to see the rookies play in a blowout!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 07:10:58 AM
Won't be able to watch the game live but I will watch it tomorrow morning. Not very optimistic about this one since we probably won't have Pierce (or he will be limited) but who knows?

I just hope Doc plays Marquis more than Pavlovic and gives the rookies a chance!

TP FL and go Celtics.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 27, 2011, 08:34:39 AM
Nightmare of a matchup between Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James.

Going to be extremely difficult to win this game without Paul Pierce (especially w/o his defense).


going to be fun Sasha shut him down..i think he can do it
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Snakehead on December 27, 2011, 10:08:28 AM
LeBron will eat us alive here I'm afraid.  Miami had a new offensive scheme going on, seemed to involve a lot more running and off the ball movement, and they looked very effecient last game.


"Ray/Wade at this point in their careers is advantage Heat." - I had to laugh at this on the front page, really?  I love Ray Allen but since he's been here that's been advantage Heat at SG.  Right now it's big time advantage Heat. Wade is the leagues best SG no question.  Let's get realistic on that one.




Nightmare of a matchup between Sasha Pavlovic and LeBron James.

Going to be extremely difficult to win this game without Paul Pierce (especially w/o his defense).

Yeah, if you think Melo really took it to us with Sasha and Marquis covering him . . . oh boy.

Melo is a better scorer than James. You really have to play him tight because he can kill you with his jumper.

But LeBron James is a better defender. We need Sasha's production on the offensive end like he did against the Knicks...oh wait.

haha LeBron is going to get bored on defense... unfortunately that means he will probably be roaming around and causing trouble.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him helping out on Rondo or matching up with him straight up on defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: FLCeltsFan on December 27, 2011, 10:39:54 AM
Tonight's officials are: 

Dan Crawford,    Dick Bavetta,    Olandis Poole
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Q_FBE on December 27, 2011, 10:50:55 AM
Tonight's officials are: 

Dan Crawford,    Dick Bavetta,    Olandis Poole

Yipes - 1st Santa Joey and now Knick Bavetta.

Well, I know it will be a tough challenge to face the Heat but really the Heat had a walkover game against that Fat, Slow, and Old team against Dallas that is vomiting all over themselves.

So being the 1st week coming back from a long lockout it is a bit tough to tell where everyone stands.


I suspect that My Hammy is very good and that we are still competitve but not outstanding.

It is looking like an Oh and Two Start so no whining and no more Blow up this Pig threads for at least six more weeks.

Need to keep fighting and build up that team chemistry and attack them down low.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 11:07:53 AM
afraid this one gets ugly very quickly. Don't see boston having a chance tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: chambers on December 27, 2011, 11:16:28 AM
We have a decent chance, just have to stop them from getting out and running early- something we are generally good at except we give up offensive boards in doing so.

Stop hating on Sasha,it was opening night at MSG and the Knicks are contenders, he was going to get 30 points regardless of who was guarding him. If he hadn't gotten 4 fouls so quickly he could have had 50 quite easily- Anyway, Sasha will make Lebron shoot. Problem is Lebron cherry picking and going for fast breaks with his boyfriend Dwayne.

Can't wait to see our bench out there-this is our advantage, particularly when Battier is out too.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Snakehead on December 27, 2011, 11:21:49 AM
We have a decent chance, just have to stop them from getting out and running early- something we are generally good at except we give up offensive boards in doing so.

Stop hating on Sasha,it was opening night at MSG and the Knicks are contenders, he was going to get 30 points regardless of who was guarding him. If he hadn't gotten 4 fouls so quickly he could have had 50 quite easily- Anyway, Sasha will make Lebron shoot. Problem is Lebron cherry picking and going for fast breaks with his boyfriend Dwayne.

Can't wait to see our bench out there-this is our advantage, particularly when Battier is out too.


I do not hate on Sasha as badly as most, but lets not pretend he can stop LeBron from going to the rack or anything.  That's a gigantic mismatch.

About the Melo thing, the refs made playing physical D on him impossible with their calls and Melo is the leagues best scorer, especially in the clutch and in the fourth.  He always is ready to make a run you just have to contain him.

If we had Pierce to go at him on the other end it would have been huge: he either plays physical and fouls or allows Pierce to score.


The bench will be interesting.  Don't forget they have Haslem though.  Bass vs Halsem should be a great matchup.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
sasha is worthless. james is going to eat him alive. Sasha will get 2 quick fouls trying to stay with james
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chris on December 27, 2011, 11:40:09 AM
sasha is worthless. james is going to eat him alive. Sasha will get 2 quick fouls trying to stay with james

I actually think Sasha will have better luck defensively against James than he did against Melo.  Melo is tough, because he can basically shoot over him, and he is not really bothered by Sasha getting up in his space.  Lebron on the other hand needs to be able to step into his perimeter shots to be successful from out there, so an aggressive defender like Sasha or Daniels (who did well against Lebron last year), can have a little more luck making him uncomfortable by getting underneath him.

The bigger issue tonight is going to be with the bigs IMO.  Will they be on time with their help defense, to close out the open lane, when Sasha plays him up tight, and will they be there one the backside to stop Bosh and Haslem from killing them off of the double-teams?

I think KG and JO will do a decent job, but this is what really worries me with Bass and Wilcox.  They have the potential to get really burned.

I also fear whether the C's will be able to score against the Heat's defense.  They are going to need another incredible game from Rondo. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 11:42:06 AM
agree about the Cs offense...afraid we will see large droughts where miami pulls away and gets up 10 plus quickly...envision boston fighting uphill all night
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: angryguy77 on December 27, 2011, 11:43:02 AM
unless RR goes for a quad double, I don't see this turning out so good.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 11:45:52 AM
would like to see moore in there instead of bradley...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: igorsure on December 27, 2011, 11:51:56 AM
The only weak hope is Sasha was LeBron's teammate long years.
So it may give him some addition clue in defense

But yes. Chances for Celtics in this game are pathetic.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 12:00:14 PM
Tonight's officials are: 

Dan Crawford,    Dick Bavetta,    Olandis Poole

LeBron and Wade will be camped at the foul line all night.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chris on December 27, 2011, 12:12:39 PM
Tonight's officials are: 

Dan Crawford,    Dick Bavetta,    Olandis Poole

LeBron and Wade will be camped at the foul line all night.

I think its the other way around.  The small part of me that believes in conspiracies believes Stern does not want the Lakers, Mavs, and C's to all start 0-2.  So, he has called in the big guns to keep Lebron and company from running all over them. 

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: apc on December 27, 2011, 12:13:19 PM
Maybe JJJ should get a shot at guarding LeBron?
Wasn’t he defensive player of the year or something in college?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 12:16:16 PM
Maybe JJJ should get a shot at guarding LeBron?
Wasn’t he defensive player of the year or something in college?


And Mikki Moore was NBDL defensive player of the year. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: apc on December 27, 2011, 12:24:17 PM
Maybe JJJ should get a shot at guarding LeBron?
Wasn’t he defensive player of the year or something in college?


And Mikki Moore was NBDL defensive player of the year. ;)
i know, it’s kind of desperate... with Pavlovic or Daniels as alternative, maybe he can get a shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chris on December 27, 2011, 12:36:20 PM
Maybe JJJ should get a shot at guarding LeBron?
Wasn’t he defensive player of the year or something in college?


Yes as a PF/C.  He is not a SF, and I don't think they are going to start him there now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
JJJ would get wrecked guarding lebron. I would rather put Rondo on him. He actually has done a good job on lebron in short stretches in the past.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 12:57:01 PM
Anticipating a Heatles blowout unfortunately.  C's have no one that will offer much defensive resistance to Bron nor anyone that will keep him honest on D. He's going to be roaming around and causing havok. 

I also think Wade and Bosh will get the better of Ray and KG fairly handily.

I think Rondo will come back down to earth a little tonight because I think Bron will help on defending him if not take him outright at times.

I'm looking for another good game from Bass and better games from Dooling and Wilcox.

If the C's lose by less than 20 I'll be stunned (pleasantly so but still stunned).  Probably come out fighting for a couple of minutes and hold their own but end up down by 10 or more by the end of the first quarter with Miami pulling further away each quarter.  I hate being this pessimistic but after the NY game and the preseason, I just don't see the sense of urgency with these guys that this is the last go-around for them.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 01:13:41 PM
It’s all about Sasha in this game.  He has the basic physical tools – strength, bulk, adequate size, decent athleticism – to do a passable job on LBJ, and he used to have a 3-point shot.  His inability to contribute anything offensively or defend without fouling was disastrous against Melo and the Knicks.  Not only did it hurt the starting line-up, but it forced Quis into duty as a full-time 3 (which in turn lead to Bradley racking up negative production at the back-up 2). 

If he can give us a couple 3s early to establish floor spacing and decent, low-foul defense, I think he could give us 30 minutes and free up Daniels to lead the bench.  If we get that, I think we have a shot.  Without it, we’re toast. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 01:47:54 PM
I expect them to win why we have no Pierce or Pietrus, not only that though they are young and juiced up coming off a Finals loss. I don't expect Miami to play at this level to the very end though.

They will burn out eventually the minutes and the way they're playing though. I hope that's the case at least.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: green7 on December 27, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
i hope doc does not put dooling @ SG that's stupid Moore should back ray and when the heat bring there bench out the line up atleast once should be...Moore @ pg,Bradley @ SG,Daniels @ SF
Bass @ PF,stiemsma @ C

and give johnson a few min
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 01:53:39 PM
Would love to see the Celtics keep this under a 10-point loss. I think the Heat are fired up and looking forward to putting a big hurting on the C's -- Pierce or no Pierce.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 02:12:32 PM
Would love to see the Celtics keep this under a 10-point loss. I think the Heat are fired up and looking forward to putting a big hurting on the C's -- Pierce or no Pierce.
completely agree that the Heat will be fired up.  They seem to be looking to send a message to the other top teams that they will be the team to beat this year.  a 10-pt margin would be a miracle.  I think less than a 20-pt margin would be an optimistic outcome. 

I'll look to the rematches later this season when they hopefully have PP and Pietrus on the active roster (and hopefully no significant players out) and gauge how the team does in that game as a better measure of how the teams compare.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: guava_wrench on December 27, 2011, 02:14:46 PM
I view the Heat as heavy favorites at home without Pierce (or even Pietrus). It will be way to hard to stop Lebron from breaking down our defense without a double team if Pierce is not on the floor.

This doesn't make a win impossible, but I am not getting my hopes up.

As bad as Bradley has looked, I still want him to get minutes in the first half. TA was much older with us than Bradley and managed on many occasions to look just as lost. Avery is still the guy that almost all of his polled fellow new draftees crowned the best defensive player in their class. The guy can move laterally like few players can.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: igorsure on December 27, 2011, 02:55:05 PM
Actually we forgot one person in a team who can effectively guard LeBron.It is Rondo - he did it couple times in last season. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CFAN38 on December 27, 2011, 03:02:38 PM
this will be a tough game for the Cs, obviously always looking for them to win but not holding out much home with out the captain. What I am interested to see is how we play as a defensive unit (especially bass and wilcox). Who steps upon offense (last game rondo and bass). Who beside bass can step up from the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CFAN38 on December 27, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
also i would try Bass on James for a stretch, just tell him to playoff and let james shoot from the outside. Really its early in the season and it cant hurt to try.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mc34 on December 27, 2011, 03:15:31 PM
The key to tonight's game will be limiting turnovers. If we don't have a ton of bad turnovers, we can stop them from getting out into transition. That and seeing if we can guard Lebron
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 03:29:36 PM
Actually we forgot one person in a team who can effectively guard LeBron.It is Rondo - he did it couple times in last season. 

we didn't forget, I mentioned Rondo guarding Lebron earlier. I think it's a good idea considering our options are limited. For some reason Lebron seems to get frustrated when Rondo guards him.


JJJ would get wrecked guarding lebron. I would rather put Rondo on him. He actually has done a good job on lebron in short stretches in the past.

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Snakehead on December 27, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
The key to tonight's game will be limiting turnovers. If we don't have a ton of bad turnovers, we can stop them from getting out into transition. That and seeing if we can guard Lebron

You're right, and we need to focus on transition in general though.  Miami showed against Dallas they are going to make a big effort to push not just off turnovers, but even makes.  They did against Dallas and managed transition buckets even off made 3's.

We can't keep up with them in the open court so we have to prevent the situations from happening where we can.  This is where that Rondo "One Man Fastbreak" show he put on against the Knicks could help big time.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Trifecta on December 27, 2011, 03:47:33 PM
The key to tonight's game will be limiting turnovers. If we don't have a ton of bad turnovers, we can stop them from getting out into transition. That and seeing if we can guard Lebron

You're right, and we need to focus on transition in general though.  Miami showed against Dallas they are going to make a big effort to push not just off turnovers, but even makes.  They did against Dallas and managed transition buckets even off made 3's.

We can't keep up with them in the open court so we have to prevent the situations from happening where we can.  This is where that Rondo "One Man Fastbreak" show he put on against the Knicks could help big time.

Someone needs to run with him though, otherwise I envision a couple of those patented chase down blocks from Lebron and even Wade that we're accustomed to seeing. Lebron usually gets Rondo at least once every time they play it seems.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Snakehead on December 27, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
The key to tonight's game will be limiting turnovers. If we don't have a ton of bad turnovers, we can stop them from getting out into transition. That and seeing if we can guard Lebron

You're right, and we need to focus on transition in general though.  Miami showed against Dallas they are going to make a big effort to push not just off turnovers, but even makes.  They did against Dallas and managed transition buckets even off made 3's.

We can't keep up with them in the open court so we have to prevent the situations from happening where we can.  This is where that Rondo "One Man Fastbreak" show he put on against the Knicks could help big time.

Someone needs to run with him though, otherwise I envision a couple of those patented chase down blocks from Lebron and even Wade that we're accustomed to seeing. Lebron usually gets Rondo at least once every time they play it seems.

Yeah you're right, hopefully as few as possible so we can have most of our guys stay back to prevent transition opportunities.  Bass is a good choice, he has been a good finisher in transition for us and his jump shot gives us a nice second option.

Ideally you want to have multiple options on the break but I'm very worried about allowing Miami to rack up easy transition buckets.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 03:52:01 PM
Actually we forgot one person in a team who can effectively guard LeBron.It is Rondo - he did it couple times in last season.  

we didn't forget, I mentioned Rondo guarding Lebron earlier. I think it's a good idea considering our options are limited. For some reason Lebron seems to get frustrated when Rondo guards him.


JJJ would get wrecked guarding lebron. I would rather put Rondo on him. He actually has done a good job on lebron in short stretches in the past.


I thought when those possession were broken down and for the most part they got easy shots when that happened. He didn't like being pressured with the ball, but once he's got it up the court he can abuse the size disadvantage.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Trifecta on December 27, 2011, 04:02:28 PM
The key to tonight's game will be limiting turnovers. If we don't have a ton of bad turnovers, we can stop them from getting out into transition. That and seeing if we can guard Lebron

You're right, and we need to focus on transition in general though.  Miami showed against Dallas they are going to make a big effort to push not just off turnovers, but even makes.  They did against Dallas and managed transition buckets even off made 3's.

We can't keep up with them in the open court so we have to prevent the situations from happening where we can.  This is where that Rondo "One Man Fastbreak" show he put on against the Knicks could help big time.

Someone needs to run with him though, otherwise I envision a couple of those patented chase down blocks from Lebron and even Wade that we're accustomed to seeing. Lebron usually gets Rondo at least once every time they play it seems.

Yeah you're right, hopefully as few as possible so we can have most of our guys stay back to prevent transition opportunities.  Bass is a good choice, he has been a good finisher in transition for us and his jump shot gives us a nice second option.

Ideally you want to have multiple options on the break but I'm very worried about allowing Miami to rack up easy transition buckets.

Yeah I think the way Bass plays tonight is going to be key. Like you said I hope he gets out on the break with Rondo a little bit.

And I think we'll see a better performance out of JO tonight too as well. Ray and KG took a while to get going Sunday and JO got significantly less minutes than them, so I think he'll get his legs under him tonight. That'll go a long way in preventing easy baskets at the rim.

Should be a good one.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: igorsure on December 27, 2011, 04:38:14 PM
Actually our chances are not only in defense, it could be in offense as well. Ray Allen looks not very good with Knicks and probably not happy with it.

If we will have real Ray Allen's day plus Rondo solid play - we can win. It is not for sure, but it is not fantastic as well, it's real
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 04:59:38 PM
I would like to see E'Twuan start over Sasha. Bump Ray to the 3 on offense and let them switch on D.

I have more faith in E'Twuan athletically, even at 6'4, than I do with Sasha.

This game has the potential to be a major blowout.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Who on December 27, 2011, 05:02:27 PM
I am absolutely terrified at the thought of E.Moore covering Dwyane Wade defensively at any point in tonight's game.

Avoid that matchup like the plague.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 05:04:16 PM
I am absolutely terrified at the thought of E.Moore covering Dwyane Wade defensively at any point in tonight's game.

Avoid that matchup like the plague.

I would have suggested Avery, but the thought of his offense against that D is equally terrifying.

He should get some spot duty on Wade though.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: LakersFan_33 on December 27, 2011, 05:11:14 PM
This will be a fantastic game - Celtics players haven't forgot about last years playoffs. Don't worry about what the Heat did to the Mavericks - Denver did the same thing to them, might have even been by a bigger margin. Mavericks are just a bad team this year.

Can't wait to watch it. Dislike both teams, but dislike the Heat much more at the moment.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 05:12:36 PM
I am absolutely terrified at the thought of E.Moore covering Dwyane Wade defensively at any point in tonight's game.

Avoid that matchup like the plague.

I would have suggested Avery, but the thought of his offense against that D is equally terrifying.

He should get some spot duty on Wade though.

That might be some of the most interesting 5-7 minutes of the game, if it happens. I don't really know how we pull this one out (one can hope!) but I think Avery on Wade could be a telling defensive barometer for the youngster.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
(http://clutch.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/rocky.bmp)

Never too early.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TruthPierce2008 on December 27, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
I would like to see E'Twuan start over Sasha. Bump Ray to the 3 on offense and let them switch on D.

I have more faith in E'Twuan athletically, even at 6'4, than I do with Sasha.

This game has the potential to be a major blowout.

???
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TruthPierce2008 on December 27, 2011, 05:51:13 PM
I would like to see E'Twuan start over Sasha. Bump Ray to the 3 on offense and let them switch on D.

I have more faith in E'Twuan athletically, even at 6'4, than I do with Sasha.

This game has the potential to be a major blowout.

???

So are you suggesting having Etwuan moore guard lebron james?
Dont think that will work too well bro
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 06:17:11 PM
Anyone but Sasha! I'd like to see EM and Avery split time at the 2 and Ray and Quis split time at the 3. Sasha is a complete joke to me and does not deserve to be on the floor. He doesn't posess NBA athleticism and should be playing overseas.

Initially I thought, "Maybe EM can cover LeBron to keep Ray fresh." That doesn't make any sense since Ray has to take Wade anyways.

So yeah, Ray can take LeBron. Please try to argue that he would do worse than Sasha. I'm sure you can't. And EM would be an improvement over Sasha and Avery offensively.

If Sasha plays competently I will be the first one to come on here and eat crow, but if I were Doc I would be bold and admit that #11 is not the answer.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 27, 2011, 06:53:37 PM
Not really thrilled bout this game but I just hope we compete better then the Mavs
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greenpride32 on December 27, 2011, 06:56:32 PM
Any official status on Paul Pierce for the game?  Last I saw he practiced on Monday with less pain and swelling but status was doubtful for TUE night.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Adelaide Celt on December 27, 2011, 06:58:42 PM
The important thing in today's game is that we come out of it with no (new) injuries.

That's all that matters today  :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 06:59:41 PM
How would others deal with the LeBron v Pavlovic problem?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greenpride32 on December 27, 2011, 07:02:25 PM
How would others deal with the LeBron v Pavlovic problem?

As long as they don't call a foul on Marquis and Sasha every time they breathe on Lebron (like they did with Melo) we'll be fine.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 07:16:36 PM
I would like to see E'Twuan start over Sasha. Bump Ray to the 3 on offense and let them switch on D.

I have more faith in E'Twuan athletically, even at 6'4, than I do with Sasha.

This game has the potential to be a major blowout.

???

So are you suggesting having Etwuan moore guard lebron james?
Dont think that will work too well bro

Not unless we want him to drop 60 on us.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 07:20:48 PM
How would others deal with the LeBron v Pavlovic problem?

As long as they don't call a foul on Marquis and Sasha every time they breathe on Lebron (like they did with Melo) we'll be fine.

yes, that will happen, and I'm also sure that it won't snow at all in boston this winter
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 07:23:48 PM
How would others deal with the LeBron v Pavlovic problem?

As long as they don't call a foul on Marquis and Sasha every time they breathe on Lebron (like they did with Melo) we'll be fine.

yes, that will happen, and I'm also sure that it won't snow at all in boston this winter
LeBron doesn't leave things to chance like that, he makes sure there is violent contact.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 07:31:12 PM
How would others deal with the LeBron v Pavlovic problem?

As long as they don't call a foul on Marquis and Sasha every time they breathe on Lebron (like they did with Melo) we'll be fine.

yes, that will happen, and I'm also sure that it won't snow at all in boston this winter
LeBron doesn't leave things to chance like that, he makes sure there is violent contact.

yup, and as soon as he initiates the violent contact he will grimace and cry like a baby and the refs will fawn over him like a mother over a newborn
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 07:38:54 PM
How would others deal with the LeBron v Pavlovic problem?

As long as they don't call a foul on Marquis and Sasha every time they breathe on Lebron (like they did with Melo) we'll be fine.

yes, that will happen, and I'm also sure that it won't snow at all in boston this winter
LeBron doesn't leave things to chance like that, he makes sure there is violent contact.

yup, and as soon as he initiates the violent contact he will grimace and cry like a baby and the refs will fawn over him like a mother over a newborn

Let's hope this mother has postpartum.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 07:43:37 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 07:48:07 PM
So, how many "Trade <fill in the blank>" and "sky is falling" type of threads do you guys expect before the game is over?

I'll go with 4.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 07:51:52 PM
So, how many "Trade <fill in the blank>" and "sky is falling" type of threads do you guys expect before the game is over?

I'll go with 4.

Well 4 on different subjects. But then you have to account for people starting multiple threads about the same thing. I'll say 10.

As for me, I'm totally prepared for a loss. We have no wing depth against one of the best wing teams in the league. A loss tonight will be completely irrelevant. I just want to see progress from those who are playing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 07:53:50 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 07:55:04 PM
A loss tonight will be completely irrelevant. I just want to see progress from those who are playing.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 07:55:08 PM
So, how many "Trade <fill in the blank>" and "sky is falling" type of threads do you guys expect before the game is over?

I'll go with 4.

Well 4 on different subjects. But then you have to account for people starting multiple threads about the same thing. I'll say 10.

As for me, I'm totally prepared for a loss. We have no wing depth against one of the best wing teams in the league. A loss tonight will be completely irrelevant. I just want to see progress from those who are playing.

As long as we bounce back from a loss with the pretty easy Hornets, Pistons, Wizards, Wizards stretch, we'll be fine.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 07:56:26 PM
Quote
My level of anger toward owners and players for not amnestying the Heat P.A. guy in new CBA knows no boundaries.

- Ken Berger

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 07:57:05 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Tgro on December 27, 2011, 07:57:35 PM
Hey, we all go in pretty much with not so optimistic hopes about this game so really we should have a nothing to lose attitude and just hope for the best. Sure, a loss wouldn't be surprising and a blow-out even seems like a possibility, so anything approaching a competitive game would be a bonus. I'm expecting the worst, but I'm hoping for the best. I think in my heart we could pull it off if all goes well. If we don't, I just want to feel like we competed.

Unlike previous years where we get off to roaring starts and fade, maybe this is the year we start off struggling and we come together more and more as the season progresses. I think we're going to surprise this year. I'm betting we get it together.

Regardless, I'm a Celtics fan. No doom and gloom here. Gonna sit down in front of the tv and cheer my team on and just want to be proud one way or another when its over. I think we'll put up a good fight. See you guys on the flip side!

Go Celtics!!!! 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 07:57:45 PM
Have to go to bed, long day ahead  :-X

Go Celts!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 07:58:48 PM
Oh, we've bought a new TV for Christmas. I'll take a picture of my setup and of how I'm watching the game during the first Celtics game break, and post it here. And I'll include a picture of my new Celtics Jersey as well :D

Can't wait for this to start, first game I'll catch live since... I dunno, but it's been frikkin' AGES!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
Go Celtics! It's all on Rondo tonight, take it to the hoop all night Rondo!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: albas89 on December 27, 2011, 08:01:06 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!
3.00 am here in Athens, Greece... gonna watch the game too, though I don't expect much!! GO CELTICS!!! ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!

Yep, let's hope our combinated presences will bring luck to the C's! And looking forward to seeing your TV set and stuff. :)

Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!
3.00 am here in Athens, Greece... gonna watch the game too, though I don't expect much!! GO CELTICS!!! ;D

Wow, I didn't even know there was a time difference between Greece and France... shame on me (but pretty cool to have a fellow european in the game thread!).
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:09:05 PM
Going to be ugly tonight... Expect Boston will be down 10 plus at the end of quarter 1
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 4THQTR on December 27, 2011, 08:09:28 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!
3.00 am here in Athens, Greece... gonna watch the game too, though I don't expect much!! GO CELTICS!!! ;D

Basel, Switzerland here too ;)
TPs to u guys and go Cs!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mgent on December 27, 2011, 08:09:54 PM
Going to be ugly tonight... Expect Boston will be down 10 plus at the end of quarter 1
Bet you're wrong.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: steefp2 on December 27, 2011, 08:11:45 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!
3.00 am here in Athens, Greece... gonna watch the game too, though I don't expect much!! GO CELTICS!!! ;D

Basel, Switzerland here too ;)
TPs to u guys and go Cs!



Right here with you guys, from Belgium.
Here's hoping for a good one
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:12:11 PM
Going to be ugly tonight... Expect Boston will be down 10 plus at the end of quarter 1
Bet you're wrong.


3 tps they get run out of Miami
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: albas89 on December 27, 2011, 08:16:33 PM
Well, as it turns out, I'm still awake and the game is about to start (2am local time). So I'll be there, hoping for a win despite the not-promising-at-all situation (no Pierce + bad referees)!

Where do you live Drucci?

I'm hoping for the best but totally expecting a loss.

In France (Paris to be exact)!
Hah, I'm here too buddy. Been a while ;)

LET'S GO CELTICS!!!
3.00 am here in Athens, Greece... gonna watch the game too, though I don't expect much!! GO CELTICS!!! ;D

Basel, Switzerland here too ;)
TPs to u guys and go Cs!



Right here with you guys, from Belgium.
Here's hoping for a good one

I always watch the games and check the game threads here but I rarely post because of my awful english... :P

It's pretty cool to know there are other euro guys who stay up so late to watch the C's! ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:18:25 PM
We've got to stop the fast break tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:19:21 PM
ok we got the lead
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 27, 2011, 08:19:29 PM
Sasha is in the zone right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:20:38 PM
Sasha was wide open behind the 3 point line that last posession...sigh.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:21:30 PM
Let them play, Dick.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 27, 2011, 08:21:31 PM
Wow, is Bevetta friendly with Joey Crawford?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 4THQTR on December 27, 2011, 08:22:03 PM
Need a big game from rondo and the bench has to make an impact
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:22:13 PM
And beveta already with a horrid call
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:22:54 PM
We really just see no need to rebound.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 08:23:30 PM
Can't sleep - watching at least some of this on my Android  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 27, 2011, 08:23:55 PM
There we go, my man Sasha.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:23:57 PM
Ray's gotta do better than that on Wade..
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:24:05 PM
SASHA! Hello!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:24:17 PM
I need to see more of that Pavlovic...then maybe I'll begin to like you.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: lukiz on December 27, 2011, 08:24:30 PM
Stuck watching the game online.. oh well.

Hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:24:48 PM
Sasha for three! I can now die in peace.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 08:24:53 PM
Pace too fast for Celtics to sustain. They have to slow it down and get back in transition.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:25:03 PM
Bosh bailed out, terrible call on JO who had a clean block.

I hate when refs reward guys just because they go to the rim.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:25:10 PM
Miami scoring at will...getting in the lane way too easy...o neal gives Boston zero
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:25:47 PM
I should not be as excited as I am to see Bass enter the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:25:49 PM
JO is worthless.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: JoT on December 27, 2011, 08:26:06 PM
We got Dick Bavetta(?) as our ref today? Aww man he and Joey are two refs I just don't like.

Oh and I really don't expect a win, but I wish the best for the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:27:05 PM
With the way Miami is hitting the lane, we might see JJJ tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:27:23 PM
Jermaine going to lead the league in fouls this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:27:33 PM
This is some disgusting "defense."
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:27:41 PM
Missed free throws by the Heat may be key tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 08:27:47 PM
Wade's (and Lebron's too) jaw grows wider with every season.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 08:27:51 PM
This is going to be a long night.

[dang].
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:28:17 PM
Celts defense invisible. Ugly
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:28:23 PM
They are going to score 150 on us. Wake the f up.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:28:50 PM
Need better effort from Rondo.

Terrible turnover and then gets lost in his rotations. Blame him for the Bosh 3 twice.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 4THQTR on December 27, 2011, 08:29:01 PM
We're gonna run out of players if this goes on...
Defense looks spotty as of now...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:29:17 PM
Sasha with  2 early...no surprise....Boston going to be n foul trouble all night.....turnovera killing Boston....horrible....defense is awful
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:29:22 PM
It's going to be a long season, I mean night.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:29:38 PM
Do opposing 4's have taken a habit of shooting 3's against us? :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 08:30:17 PM
I like the part where Rondo threw an oop to KG not realizing KG is too old to get up these days.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: JoT on December 27, 2011, 08:30:31 PM
I see they're going the down by 10+ in halftime then show up and perform in the 3rd and edge their way to get a win routine.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:30:41 PM
Miami is probably the league's best defensive team, but we absolutely have to make them work harder on offense.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:30:53 PM
I like the part where Rondo threw an oop to KG not realizing KG is too old to get up these days.

lol
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:30:55 PM
Do opposing 4's have taken a habit of shooting 3's against us? :-X

Seriously, if Amare and Bosh are good at 3s now, they're going to be so hard to stop.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: LarBrd33 on December 27, 2011, 08:31:10 PM
should be a blowout.  Our team is paper thin right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Trifecta on December 27, 2011, 08:31:19 PM
Do opposing 4's have taken a habit of shooting 3's against us? :-X

It's a shame really. No bangers in the NBA anymore. They're extinct.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ballin on December 27, 2011, 08:31:19 PM
Man, I'm not really EVER one of those "blow it up" or "sky is falling" kind of guys. But the Heat just look sick.

And those of you complaining about the defense are just flat out wrong, wrong, wrong. They've scored easy points by forcing their way to the line and getting in transition, and they're just not missing any shots at all. The effort on defense has been pretty good, it's just that the Heat are GOOD. It's ok to admit that it's a little scary
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 08:31:59 PM
Celtics running sets to score their points. Heat just scores, and nothing you do about it.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:32:30 PM
LeBron, regular season champ getting overly excited over nothing. I think this is his "finals".

This guy makes me sick to my stomach.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:32:33 PM
We can't touch the heat without getting a foul. They can tackle Rondo without anything.

There is a reason the NHL has over taken the NBA.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:32:48 PM
Boston shooting nothing but jumpers...not playing defense....and another turnover. Boston has no.chance beating these guys...going lose by 20 plus tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:33:58 PM
Who the hell is going to play 3 if Quis and Sasha can't play with fouls?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:34:13 PM
LOL this is a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing joke.

LeBron gets anything he wants. Im not even going to watch this crap anymore. The NBA is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:34:17 PM
Over the foul limit with 6:37 left in the first quarter???

I'm done.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:34:20 PM
Only question I have is what are the chances of winning tomorrow night? 30 percent?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
Rondo knocked to the floor and no foul. Maybe Wade could go dislocate his arm and they will call the foul.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:34:44 PM
Another foul on Boston. No.chance tonight. Awful...heat get all the calls
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 08:34:51 PM
I'm glad I tuned in to watch free throws. Otherwise I'd be flipping the channel right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 08:35:10 PM
Is it just me or does anyone else think that if you once refereed a game that Bob Love, Jerry Sloan or John Havlicek played in, you just should not still be officiating games in the NBA?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:35:33 PM
Screw these refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
We need scoring Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
Could be a 30 point loss at least tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Jon on December 27, 2011, 08:35:54 PM
This is disgusting. These refs need to be locked up. A clear path foul when LeBron clearly doesn't have the ball. And a foul on Sasha or Marquis if they even look at LeBron.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
Why do the refs hate us?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:36:06 PM
Good for you Rondo.

This is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 08:36:30 PM
LA may be Lob City but Miami is Foul City.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:36:34 PM
Nice D by Dooling. What a joke
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:36:40 PM
Miami just beats you over the head with athleticism. Refs already suck.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:36:40 PM
Screw these refs, realy. Ridiculous. Bosh has his arm out in front of Rondo and no foul. Ridiculous. RI DI CU LOUS.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:37:01 PM
I'm still on the conspiracy that Stern controls the results through the refs in some way.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 08:37:06 PM
I hope these NBA refs lose all their money to a guy like Madoff. Freakin' incompetent bunch. >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: JoT on December 27, 2011, 08:37:12 PM
LOL this is a ****ing joke.

LeBron gets anything he wants. Im not even going to watch this crap anymore. The NBA is embarrassing.
I see the breathe on LeBron or even blink near LeBron equals a foul is happening tonight. I'm not watching, but I knew this would happen.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:37:26 PM
Why do the refs hate us?

I wanna know too.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Jon on December 27, 2011, 08:37:36 PM
And no Rondo, we won't call a foul on Bosh, we'll give you a technical.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 08:37:41 PM
Curb-stomping upcoming. HUGE difference in athleticism.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:37:44 PM
We're still in this one, team. Let's goooooo
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:38:01 PM
These refs suck ...but Boston is just outmatched tonight. Defense is getting destroyed.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:38:27 PM
These refs suck ...but Boston is just outmatched tonight. Defense is getting destroyed.

We're down 6.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:38:28 PM
Wade walks alot.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:38:42 PM
I really dislike how they say "this is what Dallas did in the finals last year" in regard to the conference finals game. It's not the finals. It's the conference finals. It's different. Call it what it is. You were not in the finals.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:38:58 PM
Again, Rondo will have to play 45 minutes to keep this close
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:39:17 PM
Thank God we still have Rondo! Amazing! 8)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:39:25 PM
Miami gets lazy after getting a big lead.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:39:38 PM
Defense getting destroyed, if they get it together on D, we'll be just fine. We look messy, and like we're messing up a lot. Clean up the obvious mistakes and this is a tie game.

Even with ridiculous reffing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:40:10 PM
I really dislike how they say "this is what Dallas did in the finals last year" in regard to the conference finals game. It's not the finals. It's the conference finals. It's different. Call it what it is. You were not in the finals.

?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 08:40:28 PM
These refs are brutal. Love how Kerr explains a clear path foul, LeBron didn't meet the criteria but got the call. Only Doughnahy eh Stern?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:41:00 PM
(http://www.ditdoetdirk.nl/crap/celtics-jersey.jpg)
My new jersey. Hope it helps that I'm wearing it.

Let's go guys. C'mon. Get your act together. DEFENSE please.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:41:07 PM
It was the finals...conf. finals was Miami vs the bulls
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: steefp2 on December 27, 2011, 08:41:44 PM
I know this looks bad so far and to be honest, this probably wont end well for the celts but we're still in it. Gotta keep the faith right ?

Rondo looks like he understands now that it's gonna be on him. Here's to hoping the early foul fest will be contained (or atleast as much as possible against lebron/wade).

Defense needs to pick it up though.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 4THQTR on December 27, 2011, 08:41:56 PM
fouls and couple mistakes on defense hurt, but boston looking better than i thought they would and right in it.
love this team
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:42:12 PM
I really dislike how they say "this is what Dallas did in the finals last year" in regard to the conference finals game. It's not the finals. It's the conference finals. It's different. Call it what it is. You were not in the finals.

What Finals did you watch last year? Because yes they did.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 08:42:21 PM
Danny needs to go to Pryzbilla's house tonight...and beg him to sign with us (get rid of Bradley or Sasha to make room)...Wilcox and Bass won't cut it on defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 08:42:24 PM
I really dislike how they say "this is what Dallas did in the finals last year" in regard to the conference finals game. It's not the finals. It's the conference finals. It's different. Call it what it is. You were not in the finals.

?

yeah that had me scratching my head too
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:42:28 PM
Great play,rondo
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:42:32 PM
Rondo, nice charge man!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:42:44 PM
Turnovers....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticslove on December 27, 2011, 08:42:59 PM
trend continues... referees consistent on sucking.whew!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:43:03 PM
I really dislike how they say "this is what Dallas did in the finals last year" in regard to the conference finals game. It's not the finals. It's the conference finals. It's different. Call it what it is. You were not in the finals.

?

yeah that had me scratching my head too
Never mind :p
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: webby on December 27, 2011, 08:43:37 PM
The  key  to  beat  Miami  is shoot  more 3's
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:43:38 PM
Here comes Bradley...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kenhov on December 27, 2011, 08:43:53 PM
I see nothing to worry us.

In fact the start to this season imo has been extremely positive.

Two contenders, one of which is last seasons finalist and this seasons favourite, playing us without our best player, and with a distinct advantage from the refs at their own place, and its not looking bad.

Miami when put into a half court game, slowed down, are very beatable.

I feel good about this season. very.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 08:43:53 PM
Rondo can't do it all by himself. the mentality of this team is counterproductive standing around waiting on rondo
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:44:12 PM
Quisy is playing like a freaking champ right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:44:26 PM
Strong move, quisy
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:44:28 PM
I love me some QUIS!!

Such an intelligent player.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 08:44:44 PM
(http://www.ditdoetdirk.nl/crap/celtics-jersey.jpg)
My new jersey. Hope it helps that I'm wearing it.

Ha, who knew you were related to Stiemsma. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:45:02 PM
Marquis on fire!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: steefp2 on December 27, 2011, 08:45:12 PM
who else is loving the Quis right now cause i sure am
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:45:19 PM
Quis looks as good as he did before the injury last season.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 08:45:33 PM
Nice move by Daniels he's a very underrated scorer. He doesn't have a great jumper, but he's great at finishing around the basket. I hope AB gets out of his funk this game... I'm hoping it's just a funk.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:45:43 PM
Bradley on battier?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:46:14 PM
Ha, who knew you were related to Stiemsma. ;)
His last name is Dutch, I'm Dutch ;)

White, tall, blonde people ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: steefp2 on December 27, 2011, 08:46:30 PM
Thank god the heat keep missing free throws, cant count on that though.

Still we're looking pretty decent
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:46:53 PM
Dooling the Bass of this game?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
No,no, ok.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:47:18 PM
I'm so proud of the effort so far.

I would LOVE to beat these punks.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:47:26 PM
Come on CALL A FOUL! Stupid refs.

We're playing like crap, but still nearly a tie game. Awesome.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:47:41 PM
Dooling chucking it up.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:47:49 PM
Love how the foul on Bass was called three seconds late, after he missed.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 08:48:49 PM
Dooling is a disaster out there
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:48:53 PM
Are you kidding me Dooling?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:49:01 PM
I really don't like dooling's game
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:49:02 PM
Love how the foul on Bass was called three seconds late, after he missed.
Yeh, the Bass "foul" :p (I didn't see it, but I could be wrong.)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: theswitch on December 27, 2011, 08:49:05 PM
Great 1st quarter effort. Dooling has to get a little under control but I love the aggressiveness all around.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:49:11 PM
Really? No foul? Seriously?

These refs are absolutely disgusting.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:49:30 PM
Rondo is the only guy who can stay in front of LeBron with a full head of steam.

Wouldn't mind seeing more of that matchup.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:49:33 PM
Marquis on fire!!!

He has the unorthodox offensive game like Marion. That seems to give Miami problems.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:49:46 PM
Love it when Rondo defends LeBron.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:49:51 PM
Dooling wasting possessions. C's need as many as they can get.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Trifecta on December 27, 2011, 08:49:57 PM
Keyon playing like Bradley out there. Hopefully he'll wake up.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:50:21 PM
Fouls are just horrid...as are the turnovers. Just killing Boston.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:50:36 PM
I really don't like dooling's game

Me either.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:50:42 PM
Marquis on fire!!!

He has the unorthodox offensive game like Marion. That seems to give Miami problems.
Good comparison, TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 08:51:01 PM
Dooling speed is a concern. He's sloooooooooooooooooooow.

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: KCattheStripe on December 27, 2011, 08:51:10 PM
This team is playing absurdly well considering it's missing Pierce and it's primary wing off the bench.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 08:51:23 PM
Fouls are just horrid...as are the turnovers. Just killing Boston.

You said they would be down by 10 at the end of first Q. You owe mgent some TPs. :P
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 08:51:27 PM
Attention Dooling: You are clearly not a slasher.

CATCH and SHOOT

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:51:31 PM
Haha, awesome pic Kiorrik! ;D

We're right back in this one, I love the D and the contribution from the 2nd unit, it definitely is much much better than against NY when Bass was the only reserve contributing. Quisy, Bass, Wilcox are all playing well, especially on D. I'm not sold on Dooling's shots selection but he did make some shots.

Hope the refs don't crack down on the whistle again because it bothered us in the 1st quarter.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 08:51:44 PM
Hanging in there - cool.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 08:52:04 PM
We need more practice for our D, looking at Bass, Wilcox and Pavlovic.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: steefp2 on December 27, 2011, 08:52:12 PM
True but atleast he's hitting his shots and we really need someone who'll stick the open jumper. Hopefully he'll get better in regards to the rest of his game as the season continues.

Was talking about dooling btw
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:52:24 PM
Dooling's not that bad guys...at least he's scoring.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 08:52:29 PM
These blind refs ignore the blatant foul on miami and then call the most ticky-tack stuff on Boston, it's an absolute joke.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticslove on December 27, 2011, 08:53:30 PM
lechoke seems lost everytime wade takes a rest.lol
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Shots on December 27, 2011, 08:53:35 PM
Ugh.. Decent contributions from the support cast so far, hard to complain about lack of backup. I'd like to see Rondo and especially Garnett to carry the load in the second.

And.. The lack of consistency in what is a foul is just.. well, I don't understand it. Hopefully it will level out.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:53:54 PM
Wat do we have to do to get a call?!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:54:26 PM
Fouls are just horrid...as are the turnovers. Just killing Boston.

You said they would be down by 10 at the end of first Q. You owe mgent some TPs. :P
No...bet was Miami runs Boston out of the gym...and they will. It is close now but Miami will unfortunatly take over
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: tenn_smoothie on December 27, 2011, 08:54:31 PM
Wilcox - get your head out of your ass !!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:54:33 PM
Obvious foul from Wade on Marquis but no call of course.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:54:36 PM
Wow Haslem looks weird without the cornrows.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:54:36 PM
Wat do we have to do to get a call?!

Put on a Heat jersey.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:55:06 PM
Why can't we get draft picks like Cole?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 08:56:01 PM
Bradley sucks...he is getting  torched by Cole.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 08:56:19 PM
Everybody standing around on offense except Rondo. :sigh:
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 08:56:22 PM
Good job Rajon. Get shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:57:09 PM
Defense is atrocious
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 08:57:13 PM
Our paint area is just like a HUGE free space with a big welcome mat. Its absolutely nauseating.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 08:57:27 PM
I hate it when Rondo passes up layups for assists. Just score!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:57:44 PM
The Ray v Wade matchup is such a disadvantage.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 08:58:03 PM
Give Moore a chance instead of playing Pavlovic, come on Doc!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 08:58:18 PM
Alright, cut Pavlovic. I've seen enough
Title: I do not like Wilcox's game
Post by: missyP on December 27, 2011, 08:58:39 PM
His defense iffy.. just don't see the positives of his game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 08:58:46 PM
Seriously, how do they get a guy like Norris cole?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 08:58:51 PM
He anticipated Wade would break his arm and get a no call.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 08:58:57 PM
Norris Cole looks like a real nice player. I'm Jealous.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bruinsandceltics on December 27, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
This team just isn't very good.

It is great at times and AWFUL at others which means it is hardly that good.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 08:59:08 PM
A backwards layup.

That, ladies and gentleman, is the definition of "soft."
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ballin on December 27, 2011, 08:59:12 PM
Alright, cut Pavlovic. I've seen enough

You kidding? That was a bogus call, not Pavlovic's fault...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 08:59:15 PM
I agree we need the new 'Toine... Twuan!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Evantime34 on December 27, 2011, 08:59:23 PM
We need someone to create their own shot on the second unit, can we get moore in the game?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 08:59:29 PM
great, now Pavlovic is running out of bounds like Bradley! It's contagious!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 08:59:36 PM
Garnett is useless. his salary $21,200,000mil is money lost
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Thruthelookingglass on December 27, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
I agreed with doc, I think if our D can settle in and the fouls and TOs even out, we can make a game of it.  And we need more shots to fall!  Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Trifecta on December 27, 2011, 08:59:50 PM
He anticipated Wade would break his arm and get a no call.

I just lol'd. TP for absolute truth.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:00:15 PM
Pavlovic needs to be in Russia...next to Krstic. >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 09:00:32 PM
A backwards layup.

That, ladies and gentleman, is the definition of "soft."


after seeing that from Rondo, I am going to go bury my head in shame in some sand somewhere
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:00:39 PM
Turnovers are just garbage. Cole has done more tonight than bradley will do in his career. And the beatdown is on......sasha...o neal and Bradley are worthless
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
This officiating makes me want to destroy my TV.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 09:00:53 PM
Yeh team looking bad bad tonight. Pierce does play a HUGE role in the offense though. Hopefully it picks up... Sigh
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:00:56 PM
Seriously, how do they get a guy like Norris cole?
Because until this year, Danny has drafted on potential, not success.  Cole was a 4 year player in college and had a 50 point game last year.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:01:26 PM
I agreed with doc, I think if our D can settle in and the fouls and TOs even out, we can make a game of it.  And we need more shots to fall!  Here's hoping!
And some calls. Bah. I'm repeating myself but these refs are atrocious.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:01:50 PM
What number pick was cole?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 09:01:55 PM
Alright, cut Pavlovic. I've seen enough

You kidding? That was a bogus call, not Pavlovic's fault...

Pass up a wide open 3. Travel.

Get beat on the other end.

Garbage
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:02:23 PM
Once Wade came back into the game Miami's offense immediately picked up. The C's just have no one that can check him. He can pretty much get any shot he wants.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:02:39 PM
Thank the Lord for Rondo!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:02:48 PM
Pierce wouldn't make much of difference. you know he's good for 4-5 turnovers a game equaling 8points for Heat.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:02:59 PM
 :o :o lebrons got a forehead like a drive-in movie theatre.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:03:02 PM
Another terrible superstar call for Wade.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Wade is clearly one of the top floppers in the nba
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:03:36 PM
Refs are intentionally screwing Ray as well?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
Are you kidding me? Where is the freakin' foul?!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: KCattheStripe on December 27, 2011, 09:03:52 PM
Ray may have finally found the top of the hill.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celtsfan907 on December 27, 2011, 09:04:24 PM
It's really hard to believe watching KG that he was actually a good scorer/post player at some point in his career.  He does not want the ball at all.  Can't win if we get zero scoring from him again...in the post, not just shooting jumpers.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:04:35 PM
Now the offense is matching the defense at putrid
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:04:52 PM
Going to be down 15 plus here soon. At least spolstra plays rookies...wish doc would....another turnover
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:05:03 PM
Good point from Fratello: "Don't throw cross-court passes vs Miami." Ever.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 09:05:27 PM
There's no real competition in this game in my eyes. There's no fire, no frustration, no anger.  Just not in their league wih our current makeup.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 09:05:30 PM
Wade kills us every fricken time

I don't know why we got rid of Tony Allen that was pretty stupid
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:05:34 PM
nice redemption by Pav
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:05:48 PM
Can KG just sit in the post all day?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:05:56 PM
A travel. Because we don't call fouls on the Heat.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
The things I would do for a good center...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:06:26 PM
Sasha is worthless folks. Playing 4 on five with him.out there
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:06:44 PM
Sasha should not be in the league
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:06:49 PM
Is the officiating any better over in Europe guys?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 09:06:56 PM
Pavlovic getting schooled left and right...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:07:03 PM
Nice play Pav
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:07:09 PM
we need new offense.

Its reminiscent of Cavaliers offense back with Lebron, they stand there and wait for Rondo to force feed them.  
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 09:07:11 PM
Alright, cut Pavlovic. I've seen enough

You kidding? That was a bogus call, not Pavlovic's fault...

I rest my case...
Title: Sasha sasha sasha!!!
Post by: missyP on December 27, 2011, 09:07:17 PM
maaan..
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 09:07:17 PM
Why is Doc sticking with Pavlovic?!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:07:31 PM
Sasha MUST go. Along with Bradley. And JO. I really don't know how much more of this I can take.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
Is the officiating any better over in Europe guys?
More consistent perhaps. Want the lockout back already, do you?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:07:44 PM
i know everyone knows this but I just want to chime in as a reminder.

we're only down 7.  dont have paul pierce.  we're incorporating a bunch of new players into our system with no real training camp,  while the Heat have 90% of their team back.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:07:52 PM
Wade kills us every fricken time

I don't know why we got rid of Tony Allen that was pretty stupid

that s a fact..they guy who could cover wade....gone...in his place marquis..the guy who can't cover wade, or slash or dunk powerfully like TA...but md does turn t over 3x more...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 09:08:31 PM
I guess I imagined the foul on Ray.  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:08:47 PM
this offense is reminiscent to Cavaliers offense back with Lebron, they stand there and wait for Rondo to force feed them.  
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:08:58 PM
Even with pierce the heat are on a way different level.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
i know everyone knows this but I just want to chime in as a reminder.

we're only down 7.  dont have paul pierce.  we're incorporating a bunch of new players into our system with no real training camp,  while the Heat have 90% of their team back.

Down 7?

You must mean times 2.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
Wowwww this is gonna be brutal.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
i know everyone knows this but I just want to chime in as a reminder.

we're only down 7.  dont have paul pierce.  we're incorporating a bunch of new players into our system with no real training camp,  while the Heat have 90% of their team back.

wow that 7 point lead ballooned to 14 real quick
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:09:31 PM
Is the officiating any better over in Europe guys?
More consistent perhaps. Want the lockout back already, do you?

For our sake I wish it carried about a month longer..
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:09:49 PM
I guess I imagined the foul on Ray.  ::)
If we would have done the same play on Wade, it would have been a foul.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:09:54 PM
I guess I imagined the foul on Ray.  ::)
Well the heat don't foul...that's pretty common knowledge
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:10:02 PM
Too bad troy murphy is starting for the lakers..CENTER...and sweetney is gone..CENTER..sweetney would hold the paint...look at md...compare him to TA.....ugh.....mami is some serous HACKERS too..homer refs....same way in NY....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:10:08 PM
And this is where it gets embarrassing.

Who thought we were contenders for the Championship this year? ****.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:10:26 PM
i know everyone knows this but I just want to chime in as a reminder.

we're only down 7.  dont have paul pierce.  we're incorporating a bunch of new players into our system with no real training camp,  while the Heat have 90% of their team back.

Down 7?

You must mean times 2.

it was 7 when i hit the post button bud.  nobody's perfect
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:10:52 PM
I guess I imagined the foul on Ray.  ::)
If we would have done the same play on Wade, it would have been a foul.
Well Wade would have flopped pretty bad, so of course he would have gotten the call.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:11:08 PM
Sasha and o neal add zero to this team....do we even try to play defense??  And the beatdown is on...15 points in the hole...Boston has no beating these guys.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:11:20 PM
Celts defense is laughable
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:11:25 PM
And this is where it gets embarrassing.

Who thought we were contenders for the Championship this year? ****.
I think we should just start hacking people 80s style. Somebody has to cripple either Lebron or Wade.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 4THQTR on December 27, 2011, 09:11:51 PM
ugly stretch...
just not enough offense for the Cs and they get lost on defense as well...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:12:12 PM
JO looks like he is 100 years old
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:12:13 PM
Rondo is the only one working at it....taking charges....pushing the ball.......put in the purdue guys....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:12:15 PM
The fact that Rondo is our leading scorer says so much...our offense is atrocious. And that defense that we're oh so famous for doesn't exist.

We can't score and we can't defend. How exactly are we supposed to win games?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:12:39 PM
And this is where it gets embarrassing.

Who thought we were contenders for the Championship this year? ****.
I think we should just start hacking people 80s style. Somebody has to cripple either Lebron or Wade.
Beginning to like that idea. If the refs don't allow us to touch them, go out in style and "sweep the leg".
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 09:12:46 PM
C's shooting 47% from field, 60% from 3, 79% from the line yet are losing by 15 and are on pace to give up 70 points this half.

The Celtics defense on the wing and Rondo's defense on his man on the perimeter are just awful right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TenaciousD on December 27, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Heat are seriously motivated, fighting the Green monkey.  For C's, its game 2 of a long march and shorthanded, to boot. That said, hold the Bradley and pass the ET, please.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Thruthelookingglass on December 27, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Wow, I thought we would look a little more organized on the court.  Very little confidence right now, like our guys are only hoping the passes will be on target or tossing it up hoping it goes in, Ray excepted.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:13:12 PM
Have a feeling this team is going to.struggle to get win #1....the defense is laughable
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:13:16 PM
And this is where it gets embarrassing.

Who thought we were contenders for the Championship this year? ****.
I think we should just start hacking people 80s style. Somebody has to cripple either Lebron or Wade.

TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:13:48 PM
marqus danals s like a F league guy out there....he can't do anythng ...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:13:58 PM
Rondo & the 4 stooges. To think Ainge wanted to trade him
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:14:04 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:15:08 PM
(http://www.ditdoetdirk.nl/crap/celtics-jersey.jpg)
My new jersey. Hope it helps that I'm wearing it.

Let's go guys. C'mon. Get your act together. DEFENSE please.
not working....take it off! :)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:15:14 PM
Barring injuries Miami is going to run away with it this season. Hard to play great defense when Miami continues to throw athlete after athlete at old legs.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:15:16 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

LOL.

I honestly can't believe we're so bad...this is like a nightmare.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:15:34 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

$21,200,000million done the drain.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
I guess Ray and KG will be retiring this year after all  :-\
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:16:11 PM
I, do not, see those fouls. I don't see them. I don't know what we do wrong. I really don't.

On offense... well... we look like rubbish :p
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:16:16 PM
This is sad. We are an old, slow team. Changing of the guard is here.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:16:31 PM
Pierce and Pietrus better bring their grade A defensive game...this team needs it desperately.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 27, 2011, 09:16:38 PM
marquis has shot 3 air balls tonight. and he gets paid to play this game?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 09:16:54 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

LOL.

I honestly can't believe we're so bad...this is like a nightmare.

Feels like I'm playing 2k12. And I'm really really really bad at playing 2k.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
That's right Allen. All you've got to do is shoot. Don't dribble or create. You can't.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:17:23 PM
Six or seven seed in the east at best. Boston playing scared and soft. 14 turnovers..just awful. Getting beat like they stole something...and Daniels cannot play the 3...he is a 2
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
These foul calls are fricken ridiculous Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 09:17:31 PM
C'mon C's this thing's not over yet!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 09:17:39 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

He tried to get Bill Walker and everyone frowned. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TenaciousD on December 27, 2011, 09:17:48 PM
This keeps up, it will be Rajon looking for a trade.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 09:17:54 PM
Celtics aren't as bad as the Heat are making them look. The Celtics are definitely a contender in this league but right now the Heat are the best in the league and making it look easy.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:17:59 PM
We're going to be fine this year. I'm calling it.

Old legs need time to get warmed up. No camp and no preseason.

Wait a month or so.

That being said, Miami is clearly on another level athletically.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:18:11 PM
This is sad. We are an old, slow team. Changing of the guard is here.
blow it up. we couldn't get through a 7 game series with any of the top teams in the east, let alone win a series against any of them.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:18:22 PM
They are just so unafraid to take it to the hoop. There is no one there to stop them...intimidate them a little bit...or even make them think twice. They just go...and convert. SMH.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:18:34 PM
Six or seven seed in the east at best. Boston playing scared and soft. 14 turnovers..just awful. Getting beat like they stole something...and Daniels cannot play the 3...he is a 2
Sorry but we're not allowed to play hard. When we so much as LOOK at them we get a foul. How can we play hard when every thing we do is a foul?

But yeah, that's on defense. Offense is atrocious.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 27, 2011, 09:18:47 PM
ray allen the 3 point champion. i love when he does this to the heat.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticslove on December 27, 2011, 09:18:58 PM
And this is where it gets embarrassing.

Who thought we were contenders for the Championship this year? ****.

the referees certainly don't feel like we are.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 09:19:08 PM
Well at least we still have Ray. Beautiful.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Rondo and Ray work so well together.

I've never seen a PG/SG combo so in synch when they get it going.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
We're going to be fine this year. I'm calling it.

Old legs need time to get warmed up. No camp and no preseason.

Wait a month or so.

That being said, Miami is clearly on another level athletically.
This.

And what Nickagneta said.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:19:13 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

He tried to get Bill Walker and everyone frowned. ;)

LOL!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

$21,200,000million done the drain.

Really? He was critical during our championship season. And I think Wyc would throw another 21 million at some player if he thinks it'll get us banner 18.

He is still an above average defender and a very good PF. Stop blaming this team's poor performance on him.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 27, 2011, 09:19:30 PM
LOL, this should be a 20-25 point deficit but Ray keeps drilling threes.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:19:31 PM
gotta take advantage of miamis dumb...press defense...doc needs to make them eat that childish stuff...send someone to the hole on the up top double..! like maybe a BG man..! even though celtcs management does not like CENTERS.....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:19:37 PM
They are just so unafraid to take it to the hoop. There is no one there to stop them...intimidate them a little bit...or even make them think twice. They just go...and convert. SMH.
We can't play defense. It's like every other player on the Heat is MJ when it comes to calls. Jesus H Christ start hacking NOW.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:19:43 PM
Ray is such an amazing shooter. C's only chance to score is to get out and run after misses.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:20:04 PM
They are just so unafraid to take it to the hoop. There is no one there to stop them...intimidate them a little bit...or even make them think twice. They just go...and convert. SMH.
D12
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 27, 2011, 09:20:11 PM
so tired of people saying "blow it up"

and get who? its not like anyone wants a retiring KG.... shut up already

we're fine.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 09:20:17 PM
Steve Kerr is making me miss Reggie Miller.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: rmitchell222003 on December 27, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
lebron pushes off everytime... call that sh**... everytime he goes the the rack, pushing off... offense of foul everytime
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:20:28 PM
god bless Rajon Rondo. he stopped Lebron from establishing post position, he rebounded the missed ball, He led the fast break, and then found Ray Allen.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:20:32 PM
The 28th pick in the draft getting a lot of pt for Miami
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:20:49 PM
Really need to win tomorrow night.  
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celtsfan907 on December 27, 2011, 09:20:57 PM
I'm going to go ahead and say that Celtics are the most frustrating team to watch in the NBA.

KG - 3 shots in a half....that's pathetic going up against Bosh.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:21:01 PM
we seem so emotionless.  even after that great run there on both ends of the court the only guy walking off the court showing any kind of fire is Dooling.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:21:04 PM
Six or seven seed in the east at best. Boston playing scared and soft. 14 turnovers..just awful. Getting beat like they stole something...and Daniels cannot play the 3...he is a 2
Sorry but we're not allowed to play hard. When we so much as LOOK at them we get a foul. How can we play hard when every thing we do is a foul?

But yeah, that's on defense. Offense is atrocious.
TP. No wonder Pierce is the captain of this team. Without him we are lost on offense.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: MF Doom on December 27, 2011, 09:21:16 PM
b.l.o.w i.t u.p
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:21:20 PM
Marqius Danials took BBD's place as the "get your shot blocked" team leader..! "Who needs to jump, Im too lazy for THAT!!!".
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:21:32 PM
We're going to be fine this year. I'm calling it.

Old legs need time to get warmed up. No camp and no preseason.

Wait a month or so.

That being said, Miami is clearly on another level athletically.

It's not doom or gloom by any means. C's are playing the best team in the league right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 09:21:50 PM
CALM DOWN PEOPLE!!!

2nd game of a long season and we know the Heat are the best team in the league.

Its not time to give up on them, blow this team up, release people, bench people, trade people, or any of the other complete nonsense I am reading.

Come April we will have 40 something wins, be a 3rd seed and looking to play playoff basketball. Its a long season. Keep the faith.

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: dtrader on December 27, 2011, 09:21:56 PM
We're going to be fine this year. I'm calling it.

Old legs need time to get warmed up. No camp and no preseason.

Wait a month or so.

That being said, Miami is clearly on another level athletically.
This.

And what Nickagneta said.

Theyre on another level athletically, but its not like theyre just athletes.  Aside from Anthony, theyre all exceptionally skilled too.  I'm not going to judge where we are until we have PP tho.  I think he changes everything
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
so tired of people saying "blow it up"

and get who? its not like anyone wants a retiring KG.... shut up already

we're fine.
We don't look fine.  And I'll shut up since you asked so nicely.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bopna on December 27, 2011, 09:22:17 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

$21,200,000million done the drain.

Really? He was critical during our championship season. And I think Wyc would throw another 21 million at some player if he thinks it'll get us banner 18.

He is still an above average defender and a very good PF. Stop blaming this team's poor performance on him.

Look man, we all love KG, but the man is right, Yes he is still serviceable and stil a bit good at what he does... but he is no where worth his 21 million
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 09:22:33 PM
Rondo on Lebron... that's all we've got eh?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
These zebras are whistle happy come on they are literally trying to hand the Heat a championship with these calls
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:23:27 PM
No foul on LeBron? No worries, we can always just call that 3 seconds on the Defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:23:39 PM
This is really sad
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:24:01 PM
This is like pick up ball. Did you see how fast LeBron got to the rim after that Wade miss.  :o
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:24:12 PM
14 turnovers and foul after foul. Boston looks like they need another month of camp.....make that  15....Boston just cannot keep up with Miami. Just too much.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:24:16 PM
65 in the first half is not celtic basketball
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:24:18 PM
If KG decides to continue playing after this season...I hope he signs somewhere else. Boston doesn't deserve him. Ungrateful lot.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:24:20 PM
Oh. My. God.

What is this?! I AM SO SICK OF THIS CONSTANT DRIVING TO THE BASKET. SOMEONE, ANYONE KNOCK THEM TO THE GROUND!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: satch on December 27, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
When did Daniels become the go to guy?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:24:36 PM
CALM DOWN PEOPLE!!!

2nd game of a long season and we know the Heat are the best team in the league.

Its not time to give up on them, blow this team up, release people, bench people, trade people, or any of the other complete nonsense I am reading.

Come April we will have 40 something wins, be a 3rd seed and looking to play playoff basketball. Its a long season. Keep the faith.



No way this team is the 3 seed
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 09:24:45 PM
Absolutely atrocious defense. This is NOT one of the best defensive teams in the league - not contesting half of these points.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 09:24:59 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

$21,200,000million done the drain.

Really? He was critical during our championship season. And I think Wyc would throw another 21 million at some player if he thinks it'll get us banner 18.

He is still an above average defender and a very good PF. Stop blaming this team's poor performance on him.

What BFM said.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 09:25:00 PM
Ouch!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kenhov on December 27, 2011, 09:25:06 PM
I repeat. I am putting it down on record. Boston are going to win the east and get to the finals.

I see nothing to be worried about, well..besides Bradley :-)

This is a team which depends much more on sets than teams which have Wade, melo, and Lebron.

Its going take a season folks.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:25:07 PM
KG must give us more. I'm so sick of seeing him on the perimeter on both ends. He needs to play closer to the basket!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:25:29 PM
In the title year, what I liked most, was our hard D.

I'm beginning to feel like we were allowed to play hard D because Stern said so.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: MF Doom on December 27, 2011, 09:25:48 PM
This is really sad

so are the optimistic posters who continue to lie to themselves that this team has any shot what so ever in a 7 game series against Miami. its time for change
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Birdmanbr on December 27, 2011, 09:25:54 PM
They will destroy 95% of the teams during the regular season, so we are not in a worst position than any other team: we need to stay healthy, try to add some more pieces and hope for the playoffs...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:25:58 PM
We can't play our style of basketball against this team. What can you do? [dang] where is Kevin McHale when you need him.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:26:02 PM
Well, when ....in this nite, what you like to use isn't working..try some youth..they are there..what do you have to lose...put bradley on wade...the purdue guys....try youth...dooooccccc..! Closing you eyes and yelling "help me kg " won't work ths year....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bopna on December 27, 2011, 09:26:10 PM
Im really beginning to HATE the Heat more than the Fakers right now :-[
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
Remember when the celts played defense in the middle. Need help badly
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:27:02 PM
If KG decides to continue playing after this season...I hope he signs somewhere else. Boston doesn't deserve him. Ungrateful lot.

This is a business, and charitable organization. Garnett is nowhere near the player he was even 2 years ago. He is finished. and i hope he retires.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:27:13 PM
This is really sad

so are the optimistic posters who continue to lie to themselves that this team has any shot what so ever in a 7 game series against Miami. its time for change

Don't think we can take them in a 7 game series.. let's not kid ourselves.

But I will put this team up against any other team in the league.

My hope is that someone else takes care of MIA.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:27:30 PM
If KG decides to continue playing after this season...I hope he signs somewhere else. Boston doesn't deserve him. Ungrateful lot.
I didn't see a single post that said anyone was ungrateful for what KG has don here, simply that he's not the player he once was. Even the greatest of players get traded or move on, what's wrong with suggesting that we should too?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
this is also why you could try sweetney..look at kg...the human screen...then out of position to get the ball...Celts need a bg center..to free up KG.....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 09:28:01 PM
Lebron's 1st foul

Smh
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:28:39 PM
This is really sad

so are the optimistic posters who continue to lie to themselves that this team has any shot what so ever in a 7 game series against Miami. its time for change
Our best bet is to hope the Knicks play the Heat before we do.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 09:29:12 PM
Speaking of looking old, KG also looks like he needs a walker.

$21,200,000million done the drain.

Really? He was critical during our championship season. And I think Wyc would throw another 21 million at some player if he thinks it'll get us banner 18.

He is still an above average defender and a very good PF. Stop blaming this team's poor performance on him.

Look man, we all love KG, but the man is right, Yes he is still serviceable and stil a bit good at what he does... but he is no where worth his 21 million


if youre just trying to be right, then youre right.  but it's a very cold-hearted way of looking at it.  the man brought something here we havent had in two decades, a championship.  If this season is going to be as bad as people are making it out to be, i'd gladly stomach it, plus another one.

it's the GMs job to be shrewd and heartless.  not the fans.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:29:19 PM
Can they beat new Orleans on a second night of a back to back?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:29:27 PM
No way this team is a three seed. No way they can beat Miami. The window is shut and this is a farewell tour
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:29:32 PM
IT isn't that kg is dead..he has no center support like he used to n perk...now kg is setting the screens that perk used to....we need a big center.....too bad cdco couldn't play troy murphy..the Lakers are making murphy look quite good....!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:29:41 PM
Remember when the celts played defense in the middle. Need help badly

Oh no. We don't need help in the middle. Its perfectly fine for teams to drive to the hoop possession after possession after possession at will! What we NEED is Chris Paul! An elite point guard. So what if we already have one of those  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Eja117 on December 27, 2011, 09:29:47 PM
These foul calls are fricken ridiculous Jesus Christ.
You didn't get the memo.  From now on you don't say that. It's been replaced with "Tim Tebow"
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:30:38 PM
They really should be embarrassed by the complete lack of effort on defense. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:31:15 PM
But the celts are being fools..standing flat footed whle rondo runs around getting pressured by two men...no one moves to the hoop, no one moves to the ball...duh... Where is our coach when he needs to coach....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:31:15 PM
These foul calls are fricken ridiculous Jesus Christ.
You didn't get the memo.  From now on you don't say that. It's been replaced with "Tim Tebow"
HA! TP, Tebow jokes never get old--they're divine!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
If KG decides to continue playing after this season...I hope he signs somewhere else. Boston doesn't deserve him. Ungrateful lot.
I didn't see a single post that said anyone was ungrateful for what KG has don here, simply that he's not the player he once was. Even the greatest of players get traded or move on, what's wrong with suggesting that we should too?

I'm not arguing the fact that he has declined. But he is not "useless" as Change so bluntly put it.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
What amazes me the most is how fast we can go from good-to-great sequences to absolut, putrid effort/lack of reaction.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
Can they beat new Orleans on a second night of a back to back?

Yes. The C's should be able to beat that team even without Pierce. I honestly don't think the C's are trying that much on defense tonight either. There is no reason to do so. It's pretty much an automatic loss given the circumstances.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: FreeGreen on December 27, 2011, 09:31:37 PM
Tonight may stink, but it's not a reflection on the larger picture.

The whole thing changes with Pierce in the lineup.

He's our best player.  Remove the best player from any team and they're going to struggle.

You've only got 5 guys on the court in basketball, so missing your top line guy has a huge impact.  

What's the drop off from Pierce to Sasha?  Like a million-billion?  Is it even measurable?

So we'll take our lumps early and hope Pierce is only dinged up and not broken (you can never be sure with Ainge's injury reports).

I just wish Doc would use this opportunity to give the rookies some burn.  When Pierce and Pietrus are in the lineup there will be no minutes for them at all.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 09:31:43 PM
Worst defensive half this group has ever played.

Just awful.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:31:47 PM
They really should be embarrassed by the complete lack of effort on defense. 

Yeah...losing is one thing. But losing like this is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:32:01 PM
Can they beat new Orleans on a second night of a back to back?

i will say prolly not...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:32:20 PM
At least rondo back to normal at the line
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 09:32:28 PM
Pietrus should make the Cs younger and more athletic. If I were the coach, I'd start him and let Ray lead the bench. Heck, if I were the coach, I'd start Bass over JO too.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 09:32:40 PM
39 points in the second quarter.

Simply unacceptable.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 27, 2011, 09:33:29 PM
This game is taking away my positivity towards the rest of the season. I had started to forget why the Mia vs Bos play-off season had me feeling so down. They shut us down offensively and feast on us in transition if not they bomb us with threes off of penetration.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 09:33:34 PM
No way this team is a three seed. No way they can beat Miami. The window is shut and this is a farewell tour

You are calling this after the 2nd game of the season?

Without Paul Pierce or Mickael Pietrus?

Remind me to PM you before I play the lottery, lol....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:33:53 PM
Remember when the celts played defense in the middle. Need help badly

Oh no. We don't need help in the middle. Its perfectly fine for teams to drive to the hoop possession after possession after possession at will! What we NEED is Chris Paul! An elite point guard. So what if we already have one of those  ;D

TP from me..but what do i know..i think a big center is a big help...but we dump them year after year...why...guards running the team......no idea.....no centers...at least we FINALLY got a rebounder in bass...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:33:57 PM
celtics look like they don't even want to be out there...except ray and rondo...i have learned tonight that boston can't play within 10 points of miami...that sasha is awful...that oneal is not a starting center and barely has a pulse...that bradley needs a ticket to the d league and that we still have no SF...


effort is just pathetic tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:34:06 PM
I don't think this team is garbage. I totally expect to see them rally in the second half and maybe even take a lead before giving it up to double digits in the final half of the 4th qtr. That's why I don't see us doing too much after the first round--we don't have the legs to play these really mentally/physically draining games and expect to come out on top. And with a noticeable lack of depth all the back to backs are going to slay us.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 09:34:21 PM
The overreaction here is amazing. Come on guys! We all knew this was going to be ugly going in, what did you expect? No Pierce or Pietrus to guard Lebron is a recipe for disaster. Pavlovic and Daniels got killed in the 2st half, and there is no one at all on the bench to take their place.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:34:26 PM
Jermaine looks horrendous. 100 year's old. This scheule is going to kill this team
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:34:51 PM
Considering that Lord Stern has decreed it, we can't play real defense against this team.

I need two cigarettes and this totally kills my desire to talk to my non-Celtic fan of a girlfriend.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Celts Fan 92 on December 27, 2011, 09:34:57 PM
LOL @ the season being over and us being a 7th seed cuz we're losin to the best team in the league without our leading scorer same ol Celtics Blog haha
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:35:07 PM
At least rondo back to normal at the line

Rondo is carrying the team right now. he can do no wrong in my book. Danny Ainge should grateful he is on the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
No way this team is a three seed. No way they can beat Miami. The window is shut and this is a farewell tour

You are calling this after the 2nd game of the season?

Without Paul Pierce or Mickael Pietrus?

Remind me to PM you before I play the lottery, lol....


absolutely. those 2 guys wouldn't make a difference tonight....and in a short season boston is old and can't even keep up.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:35:45 PM
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Boston expressed interest in Erick Dampier during free agency, sources say. May want to look into Damp again. Just no presence in the middle

Quote
Still hearing Joel Pryzbilla is happy in quasi-retirement. But if I'm Boston I make some calls about him, too.

- Chris Mannix
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:35:50 PM
No way this team is a three seed. No way they can beat Miami. The window is shut and this is a farewell tour

You are calling this after the 2nd game of the season?

Without Paul Pierce or Mickael Pietrus?

Remind me to PM you before I play the lottery, lol....

No. I have projected 5th or 6th seed from the beginning of the season.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 09:36:09 PM
Our D is terrible. I'd like a real center and a 3 to replace Pavlovic. Seriously how hard is it to find a guy who can shoot?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 09:36:25 PM
Where is the new "blow it up" thread? I need some entertainment, because this game has been pretty disappointing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 09:36:39 PM
WHY ARE MOORE AND STIEMSMA ON THE BENCH?

Doc really p---es me off
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: bopna on December 27, 2011, 09:36:58 PM
Lets just rest RR,KG RA for the home game tomorrow... we ain't winning this game...even if we get it close which is impossible, the refs will make sure the cHeat win this one.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Larry for 3 on December 27, 2011, 09:37:02 PM
Tonight may stink, but it's not a reflection on the larger picture.

The whole thing changes with Pierce in the lineup.

He's our best player.  Remove the best player from any team and they're going to struggle.

You've only got 5 guys on the court in basketball, so missing your top line guy has a huge impact.  

What's the drop off from Pierce to Sasha?  Like a million-billion?  Is it even measurable?

So we'll take our lumps early and hope Pierce is only dinged up and not broken (you can never be sure with Ainge's injury reports).

I just wish Doc would use this opportunity to give the rookies some burn.  When Pierce and Pietrus are in the lineup there will be no minutes for them at all.

Isnt Paul pierce 34 years old, hurt, and has a million miles on those legs?  He'll help for sure, but is he stopping lebron or Wade? I'm not so sure, I dont see the C's touching this Heat team this year. It is what it is, maybe OKC or Chicago but not this team, Pierce or no Pierce
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:37:31 PM
o neal is done folks. he has nothing left to give on either end. i would like to see moore play...forget bradley...give the rookies some time.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:37:38 PM
If KG decides to continue playing after this season...I hope he signs somewhere else. Boston doesn't deserve him. Ungrateful lot.
I didn't see a single post that said anyone was ungrateful for what KG has don here, simply that he's not the player he once was. Even the greatest of players get traded or move on, what's wrong with suggesting that we should too?

I'm not arguing the fact that he has declined. But he is not "useless" as Change so bluntly put it.
fair enough. He obviously isn't the reason we're getting spanked tonight, but it shows you how important he is when everyone looks to him to rally this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:38:05 PM
So, how many "Trade <fill in the blank>" and "sky is falling" type of threads do you guys expect before the game is over?

I'll go with 4.

Haven't gotten one yet, surprisingly.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ACF on December 27, 2011, 09:38:10 PM
FTs at HT: 24-15 MIA
BOS fouls: 15. MIA fouls: 9
19-13 reb edge for MIA + 11 stls
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kuberski33 on December 27, 2011, 09:38:20 PM
You can't put in a team defense with so many new players - and without Pierce - in a 3 week pre-season and expect to shut these guys down.  Totally unrealistic.  

Heat are loaded and with the changes they've made, far better than last year.  Its going to take awhile.  But KG definitely looks old and we have no resistance inside - and no offense there either.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:38:51 PM
Lets just rest RR,KG RA for the home game tomorrow... we ain't winning this game...even if we get it close which is impossible, the refs will make sure the cHeat win this one.

Tomorrow's game is at new orleans
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
doesn't bode well when pierce had an extended vacation and still managed to come in hurt...how does that happen?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:39:32 PM
Doc for god sakes infuse some youth in the team. Play the young guys. Rondo can't do it all by himself
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 09:39:33 PM
No way this team is a three seed. No way they can beat Miami. The window is shut and this is a farewell tour

You are calling this after the 2nd game of the season?

Without Paul Pierce or Mickael Pietrus?

Remind me to PM you before I play the lottery, lol....


absolutely. those 2 guys wouldn't make a difference tonight....and in a short season boston is old and can't even keep up.

But I think it is still too early to call it like this, man.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:39:50 PM
FTs at HT: 24-15 MIA
BOS fouls: 15. MIA fouls: 9
19-13 reb edge for MIA + 11 stls

and 15 boston turnovers...boston's effort tonight is unacceptable
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
Worst defensive half this group has ever played.

Just awful.
A lot of the baskets in the second quarter were clean up/second chance buckets that not only reflect a lack of effort, but a total lack of awareness.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:40:01 PM
doesn't bode well when pierce had an extended vacation and still managed to come in hurt...how does that happen?

How did he get hurt anyways? Has that been reported?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:40:08 PM
KG really looks old on the defensive end
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 09:40:43 PM
doesn't bode well when pierce had an extended vacation and still managed to come in hurt...how does that happen?

I thought he hurt it during the 1st day of practice?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:40:59 PM
i would start KG, bass, P, rondo and ray....that line up at least gives you a chance to score...o neal is done
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:41:08 PM
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Boston expressed interest in Erick Dampier during free agency, sources say. May want to look into Damp again. Just no presence in the middle

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Still hearing Joel Pryzbilla is happy in quasi-retirement. But if I'm Boston I make some calls about him, too.

- Chris Mannix

Danny Ainge should be on his knees begging Pryzbilla to sign with us. He should sleep on his porch until he agrees.

Well that's what I would do.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:41:38 PM
doesn't bode well when pierce had an extended vacation and still managed to come in hurt...how does that happen?

I thought he hurt it during the 1st day of practice?

pretty sure he came in with it an hasn't even practiced once yet
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:42:14 PM
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Boston expressed interest in Erick Dampier during free agency, sources say. May want to look into Damp again. Just no presence in the middle

Quote
Still hearing Joel Pryzbilla is happy in quasi-retirement. But if I'm Boston I make some calls about him, too.

- Chris Mannix

Danny Ainge should be on his knees begging Pryzbilla to sign with us. He should sleep on his porch until he agrees.

Well that's what I would do.

But why do they need a center?  Lol
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
KG really looks old on the defensive end

Lockout wasn't kind to KG.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:42:30 PM
I wish we signed Shawn Williams.

I knows he's a straight up thug but he is uber athletic.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kuberski33 on December 27, 2011, 09:42:43 PM
KG really looks old on the defensive end
Agreed.  That's what happens when old players start to slip...they start having too many games like KG is having tonight.  They can still turn it on, but you start seeing more an more of these type efforts.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: dtrader on December 27, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
JJJ not getting off our bench, and Marshon Brooks is balling =/  I dont have any issue with JJJ, but I do wish we could've kept Marshon.  It was amazing that he slipped to us.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:43:12 PM
boston on offense has no inside game except rondo...everyone else settles for the 15 and out jumper....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:43:22 PM
C's don't need a center, they need a time machine.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 09:43:28 PM
Its all over!!!!! Even our popcorn sellers and Beer Vendors Suck. Oh and our Ushers? Forget about it. Replace them all!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:44:02 PM
C's don't need a center, they need a time machine.

TP
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 09:44:28 PM
doesn't bode well when pierce had an extended vacation and still managed to come in hurt...how does that happen?

Because bruises are typically pretty unavoidable. Train really hard for 6 months and then try getting punched in the eye or something. I bet you still get a black eye no matter how prepared or rested you are.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:45:12 PM
You can't put in a team defense with so many new players - and without Pierce - in a 3 week pre-season and expect to shut these guys down.  Totally unrealistic.  

Heat are loaded and with the changes they've made, far better than last year.  Its going to take awhile.  But KG definitely looks old and we have no resistance inside - and no offense there either.
Personally I wasn't expecting them to shut them down, but maybe just box out on the defensive glass to stop the 1000 second chance pts they got in the paint would be a good start.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:45:26 PM
Its all over!!!!! Even our popcorn sellers and Beer Vendors Suck. Oh and our Ushers? Forget about it. Replace them all!!!

Hahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:45:40 PM
danny loves to collect point guards...they missed the boat drafting bradley and we will never know what jjj and moore bring to the team....i am concerned we are counting on a beat up before the season starts paul pierce and a guy coming off knee surgery to flip the switch. i think tonight is over...i want to see if they even compete tomorrow vs a poor NO team
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Trifecta on December 27, 2011, 09:45:53 PM
I wish we signed Shawn Williams.

I knows he's a straight up thug but he is uber athletic.

His play makes me want to puke, PUN intended.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:45:59 PM
Am I the only one who knew what we were getting into back in 2007?

I am thankful we still have a chance to compete for a title.

We're still a top 10 team 4 years later.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Neurotic Guy on December 27, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.


We all have eyes. Miami is dominant tonight. This is Game 2.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:46:00 PM
C's don't need a center, they need a time machine.

Time machine? impossible. Center, possible.

But I do agree with the sentiment.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:46:04 PM
WHY ARE MOORE AND STIEMSMA ON THE BENCH?

Doc really p---es me off

since WHEN did doc play anyone except kg and his crew....doc likes to sign and sit em....young guys...tonight, why not...they got heart, speed legs....and we have nothng to lose...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:46:30 PM
I'm sticking with my 6-6 through first 12 games
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 27, 2011, 09:46:58 PM
I'm not horribly worried, to be honest.

Daniels is clearly not in NBA-game shape and it's showing on both ends. LeBron/Wade are eating him up with the help of the refs. On offense, he is either missing his type of shots or getting stuffed.

Pietrus would be a big upgrade, Pierce a giant one.


We are 1.5 games in. KG didn't fall off a cliff. Ray can still run and shoot. The bench is better. Pierce isn't missing the first half of the season. Rondo looks like the player we needed him to become.

The guys whining and complaining now will be the first one's changing their tune in April.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:47:39 PM
2nd half starting lineup
Bradley
Moore
Quis
JJJ
Stiemsa
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 09:47:56 PM
I really just wish I knew why people are so concerned about what's likely to be 2 losses without an active SF against teams with two of the best SFs in the league.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:48:03 PM
I'm sticking with my 6-6 through first 12 games

5-7 or 6-6....and the post about the rooks never playing is spot on.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:48:20 PM
2nd half starting lineup
Bradley
Moore
Quis
JJJ
Stiemsa

haha

May as well save the energy for tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on December 27, 2011, 09:48:24 PM
Was anyone really expecting a close game where we pull of a miracle? No pierce and no pietrus as decent SF to play Lebron.

Stop complaining, Pierce will be back soon as well as pietrus and this team will get its identity back as well as its confidence. Not concerned about this game
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:48:29 PM
I think the countdown to Rondo becoming disgruntled has begun. A star player without help around.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:48:40 PM
Its all over!!!!! Even our popcorn sellers and Beer Vendors Suck. Oh and our Ushers? Forget about it. Replace them all!!!
maybe if we signed a couple beer vendors to the vet minimum they could charge less than $9 for a Sam Adams.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:49:10 PM
Am I the only one who knew what we were getting into back in 2007?

I am thankful we still have a chance to compete for a title.

We're still a top 10 team 4 years later.

4 years of relevancy has made people forget the years of suckage that preceded it.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kuberski33 on December 27, 2011, 09:49:40 PM
I honestly think this year's team goes as far as KG is capable of taking them.  He's the key guy and it's obvious he's slipping. But I'm still going to reserve judgement on him until we get into this thing a little more. 

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:49:53 PM
I'm not horribly worried, to be honest.

Daniels is clearly not in NBA-game shape and it's showing on both ends. LeBron/Wade are eating him up with the help of the refs. On offense, he is either missing his type of shots or getting stuffed.

Pietrus would be a big upgrade, Pierce a giant one.


We are 1.5 games in. KG didn't fall off a cliff. Ray can still run and shoot. The bench is better. Pierce isn't missing the first half of the season. Rondo looks like the player we needed him to become.

The guys whining and complaining now will be the first one's changing their tune in April.



if the goal is to win a playoff series or 2 then you are right on...but to me the goal is a title. and this team as it is constructed wouldn't beat miami, okc or the bulls in a 7 game series. winning a playoff series just doesn't do much for me
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
I'm not feeling Shaq in the studio.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 09:50:00 PM
Its all over!!!!! Even our popcorn sellers and Beer Vendors Suck. Oh and our Ushers? Forget about it. Replace them all!!!

LOL! I say trade them for THIS Usher ;D

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRNPkeHw9uXeYqHSttoznyGCkj6wDc_kvbNLaHRQfZjg-mF9OTq)

He's teamed up with Beiber on those celebrity games before.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:50:05 PM
and one more on my CENTER Rant...okay, why sign SHAQ..but NOT SWEENEY....as if, looking at this team...we couldn't use a big center.....to set picks for rondo, hold the paint, and sweet is tough down low..even miami would get called for hacking him..he don't let the ball just go..! YO..! Ditch bradley or play him DOC.....he is sitting on hs hands....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:50:09 PM
It's funny. Those of us who in the past few days predicted a blowout got jumped on. Now we are being told we should have expected. Blowout. Pretty funny.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:50:36 PM
These foul calls are fricken ridiculous Jesus Christ.
You didn't get the memo.  From now on you don't say that. It's been replaced with "Tim Tebow"
:]]]
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:50:43 PM
Am I the only one who knew what we were getting into back in 2007?

I am thankful we still have a chance to compete for a title.

We're still a top 10 team 4 years later.

4 years of relevancy has made people forget the years of suckage that preceded it.

I agree. C's are on the outside looking in but there is plenty of time for rebuilding. Just enjoy this group while we still can.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 09:50:56 PM
"Chris Wilcox is out with a bruised left shoulder, X-rays were negative #celtics"

yay...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Tgro on December 27, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
We need a home game. A burst in Celtic pride and optimism. We're lucky to be in the game this much. Dallas was further behind than us. We're scrapping tonight. We're just far outclassed. Its a long season. We'll get it going.

Promise.  
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
It's funny. Those of us who in the past few days predicted a blowout got jumped on. Now we are being told we should have expected. Blowout. Pretty funny.
Actually you didn't, and now you're playing the martyr again....

Everyone calm down and stop sniping at each other or bans/warnings will be handed out liberally.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:52:03 PM
"Chris Wilcox is out with a bruised left shoulder, X-rays were negative #celtics"

yay...
good thing we have 20 shootng guards.....and 2 big men, no 3....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:52:30 PM
"Chris Wilcox is out with a bruised left shoulder, X-rays were negative #celtics"

yay...

And it continues
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:52:50 PM
Am I the only one who knew what we were getting into back in 2007?

I am thankful we still have a chance to compete for a title.

We're still a top 10 team 4 years later.

4 years of relevancy has made people forget the years of suckage that preceded it.



but i also think it reminds us all that they could go back there soon....i lived through the dark years after bird and co finished their run...there was a long time in the wilderness...and don't think anyone wants that again ....boston had some good years in the 2000s with PP and walker...but I am afraid this is the end of the road for this group.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.


We all have eyes. Miami is dominant tonight. This is Game 2.
I felt exactly like you for the entire second half of last year, into the playoffs. After I got my heart mercilessly ripped out and handed to me by Wade and LeBum, I'm having a hard time looking past what I saw but denied last April.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:53:20 PM
When did KG become...a liability?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:53:40 PM
Doc sit KG. this is embarrassing to watch
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:53:42 PM
"Chris Wilcox is out with a bruised left shoulder, X-rays were negative #celtics"

yay...

He won't return tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 09:53:45 PM
It's funny. Those of us who in the past few days predicted a blowout got jumped on. Now we are being told we should have expected. Blowout. Pretty funny.
agreed.  I pegged this as at least a 20-point loss.  it's not at that point yet but C's are looking pretty much outmatched because they can't hold on to the ball or get a call against Miami.  if not for that flurry of 3's in the 2nd, they'd be completely buried right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 09:53:55 PM
"Chris Wilcox is out with a bruised left shoulder, X-rays were negative #celtics"

yay...
Good thing I have NBA league pass. I think I'll just watch another game. See you guys at 11pm.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:54:12 PM
since the lakers beat us up, every team knows you can beat down the celts physically...the refs won't help, and doc has no idea of how to send a message that it is not OKAY to beat us....!in the body...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 09:54:30 PM
"Chris Wilcox is out with a bruised left shoulder, X-rays were negative #celtics"

yay...

He won't return tonight.
yeah that won't help,  thankfully Chalmers is coughing it up right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:55:15 PM
wilcox hurt....pietrus hurt...pierce hurt....o neal has no pulse....looks like the white kid is going to have to play
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 09:55:53 PM
When did KG become...a liability?
When he hurt his knee?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 09:55:54 PM
Ref blew the whistle before LeBron even initiated contact.

Superstar treatment is disgusting.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
leblah jimes..layup or a foul courtesy of the refs....ugh..forgot about ths during the lockout
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:56:05 PM
wilcox hurt....pietrus hurt...pierce hurt....o neal has no pulse....looks like the white kid is going to have to play
Hah :]
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
Bass who had 20 and 11 in our first game...is where?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 09:56:24 PM
When did KG become...a liability?

Wow, that was quite the move for a liability.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Marcus13 on December 27, 2011, 09:56:29 PM
we might as well bench Ray and KG and save those legs
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:56:40 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.

This idea was floated by PLamb/Nick...but was shot down. I'm with you though..2 GTs would be nice.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 09:56:45 PM
Ref blew the whistle before LeBron even initiated contact.

Superstar treatment is disgusting.
especially when it's not one of ours   >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 09:56:54 PM
Am I missing something?

Isn't it just an 11 point game?

This isn't a blowout and it will probably just be loss number 2 of about 22 or so.

I still say when we have Pierce back and the team gels some with the new bench players that we are an easy 3 seed in the East. I just don't see any other teams but Miami and Chicago being any better than the C's in the East.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:57:00 PM
Garnett hurting the team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Marcus13 on December 27, 2011, 09:57:25 PM
This team (mostly Rondo) has to start doing a better job of finding Ray when he is wide open.  I can't count the number of times he's been missed tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 09:57:28 PM
Bass who had 20 and 11 in our first game...is where?

Not playing the soft Knicks tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 09:57:36 PM
Garnett hurting the team.
How so? Can you break it down beyond one liners?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 09:57:40 PM
oh trade rondo he can't shoot.....WRONG.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:57:56 PM
Bass who had 20 and 11 in our first game...is where?


looks like KG at center will be put into effect with wilcox out...but hey...we have 3 PGs on the roster....and now 1 center in JO...who looks like he is 100...just play bass, KG, ray, rondo and daniels
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
leblah jimes..

LeBlah James...LOL!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 09:58:14 PM
This might be the worst interior defense I have ever seen. Ever
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 09:58:33 PM
Rondo for three.

Imagine that.

No really; imagine that for a while. See it.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 09:58:41 PM
Garnett hurting the team.
he's definitely not the offensive player he was in 2008.  Not as consistent in his jumper or in his rebounding so far this year.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 09:59:00 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.

This idea was floated by PLamb/Nick...but was shot down. I'm with you though..2 GTs would be nice.

I'm still all about the "hide" option on people's posts in specific threads. Then I could basically post stuff and agree with myself.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 09:59:07 PM
Get JO OFF this team.

KG front rimming once again...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 09:59:13 PM
Rondo and Allen carrying this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 09:59:18 PM
what is KG doing  ;D? this is embarrassing
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 09:59:30 PM
Am I missing something?

Isn't it just an 11 point game?

This isn't a blowout and it will probably just be loss number 2 of about 22 or so.

I still say when we have Pierce back and the team gels some with the new bench players that we are an easy 3 seed in the East. I just don't see any other teams but Miami and Chicago being any better than the C's in the East.


11 points will soon go to 15 plus...like it did in the first half...boston cannot keep up with miami...i don't think boston is as good as you think they are..or as bad as I do...i say 5 or 6 seed
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:00:07 PM
The transition defense is the most alarming part for me.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
I must admit KG is looking really bad. Terrible D, bricks on offense... I don't think he is cooked though but terribly rusty.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Spicoli on December 27, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
KG and O'neal both look absolutely cooked. Neither can do anything on either end. Not a good sign.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:00:37 PM
Rondo for three.

Imagine that.

No really; imagine that for a while. See it.


I'm really proud of this guy. He has stepped his game up tremendously.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:00:58 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:01:33 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.

This idea was floated by PLamb/Nick...but was shot down. I'm with you though..2 GTs would be nice.


I hate segregation.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:02:02 PM
Rondo for three.

Imagine that.

No really; imagine that for a while. See it.


I'm really proud of this guy. He has stepped his game up tremendously.

He's definitely been the high point this season.  Chris Paul who?

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:02:04 PM
Rondo for three.

Imagine that.

No really; imagine that for a while. See it.


I'm really proud of this guy. He has stepped his game up tremendously.
Let's hope it stays that way, this would be awesome.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 10:02:08 PM
I must admit KG is looking really bad. Terrible D, bricks on offense... I don't think he is cooked though but terribly rusty.
I do feel that this team is no where near in game shape as they should be, with Rondo even bent at the waist, but that's due to the fact he's carried this team yet again.

But even once they get their legs, they can't keep up with the new class of superstars. Rondo is on an island.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:02:16 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Have you noticed how 10 players have checked into the game tonight?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:02:41 PM
who is protecting the rim? we need an intimidator inside, maybe Thunder can trade us Kendrick PErkins
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:02:43 PM
doc ain't no bill belechick..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:02:55 PM
wow...KG and jermaine look finished out there...rust or whatever...they look bad...long season ahead in a short time frame concerns me...esp with guys that weren't looked at as being injury cases (wilcox, pietrus) out hurt
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:02:57 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.

This idea was floated by PLamb/Nick...but was shot down. I'm with you though..2 GTs would be nice.


I hate segregation.
best response possible -- TP
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:03:43 PM
The transition defense is the most alarming part for me.
This...but I think the Heat will make a lot of teams appear to have horrid transition defense this year.

Clearly they figured out that an uptempo game with lots of shots and transition hoops is their style and I can't say I disagree.

I haven't seen a running game this effective since Showtime Magic and the Lakers.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
that play illustrates what we can't do or defend.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Tradetime on December 27, 2011, 10:03:54 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!

I wonder if when we're drafting his son this summer if he'll sit the bench next year as well...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:03:58 PM
So sad the way they are toying with us
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
Embarassing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:04:17 PM
wow...KG and jermaine look finished out there...rust or whatever...they look bad...long season ahead in a short time frame concerns me...esp with guys that weren't looked at as being injury cases (wilcox, pietrus) out hurt

forget their miscues on offense. They can't even protect the rim. Kendrick Perkins was a lot more important than we though
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:04:26 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.

This idea was floated by PLamb/Nick...but was shot down. I'm with you though..2 GTs would be nice.

I'm still all about the "hide" option on people's posts in specific threads. Then I could basically post stuff and agree with myself.

i like this idea.  the ignore/hide button.  two seperate threads seems a little extreme
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:04:32 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!

Someone in Miami just came at the thought of Moore defending Wade.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:04:39 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Have you noticed how 10 players have checked into the game tonight?

for the riual minute..? oh look your guy MD is back in.yay...turnover kid....the usual 6 is all we get...those guys were in for what 3 minutes....wow.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:04:46 PM
Dwyane Wade has been on another planet this game on both ends.

Sad that Rondo has such a slow team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:04:49 PM
20 point lead.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:05:13 PM
I'm not sure if I exactly know the definition of illegal defense but it seems the Heat are close to it a lot.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
The transition defense is the most alarming part for me.
This...but I think the Heat will make a lot of teams appear to have horrid transition defense this year.

Clearly they figured out that an uptempo game with lots of shots and transition hoops is their style and I can't say I disagree.

I haven't seen a running game this effective since Showtime Magic and the Lakers.

sadly the Showtime analogy is pretty much on the mark.  Miami has definitely gotten all their players on the same page offensively and they're looking pretty respectable on D too
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:05:39 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!

hahahha, tp for that one..!

I wonder if when we're drafting his son this summer if he'll sit the bench next year as well...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
fools gold. miami could beat boston by 30 if they wanted to. don't care if it is just game 2 or who isn't playing...the effort, heart or will just isn't there. the defense is just bad...on everyone...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:05:49 PM
I say throw the young guys out there.

No pressure situation, let's see what they got!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:06:22 PM
i agree with Kerr.  Not to be a negative nelly here, but this is only the 2nd game of the season, need to keep tread on the tires for the playoffs.

might wanna think about throwing the young fellas in if the lead isnt single digits by the start of the 4th
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:06:47 PM
Vastly superior athletic team against a team that simply isn't interested in defending tonight.

Pierce isn't going to change this outcome.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:06:58 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Have you noticed how 10 players have checked into the game tonight?

for the riual minute..? oh look your guy MD is back in.yay...turnover kid....the usual 6 is all we get...those guys were in for what 3 minutes....wow.
4 bench players played 8 minutes in the first half, that isn't real playing time?

If you're going to by hyperbolic don't get upset when it turns out you are flat out wrong.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:07:01 PM
Rondo is playing out of his mind. Again.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:07:10 PM
did i mention i love Rondoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:07:16 PM
Put all the Young guys out there in the 4th quarter. No point tiring out the starters with a game tomorrow.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: birdwatcher on December 27, 2011, 10:07:39 PM
Sorry, I was definitely one of the negative ones tonight--you'll be glad to know I can't stand to watch another second of this debacle. Good night everyone, we'll play better tomorrow?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:07:41 PM
I say throw the young guys out there.

No pressure situation, let's see what they got!

TP, i second that..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:07:49 PM
Heat only shooting 70 percent. Tomorrow night will be interesting. Tired legs and probably no Pierce or Wilcox
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:08:15 PM
Rondo is playing out of his mind. Again.

I agree. I hope Pietrus can run with him.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:08:38 PM
Vastly superior athletic team against a team that simply isn't interested in defending tonight.

Pierce isn't going to change this outcome.

I think they're plenty interested.  They're just old, slow and winded. 

I don't think we can get away with JO and KG together against the Heat.  Just not enough defensive speed to react to Wade and LeBron.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:08:46 PM
Any discussion of separate threads, ignore/hide functionality, or anything not related to tonight's game can happen in the suggestion forum or whatever area is appropriate.

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:08:58 PM
Put all the Young guys out there in the 4th quarter. No point tiring out the starters with a game tomorrow.

NEVA!! Doc River is our coach.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:09:00 PM
Defensive rotations have been wayyy too slow tonight.

I don't think that keeps up. That's the kind of thing you work on a lot in training camp.

This experience will be valuable going forward. NO is going to get blow out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
Would it be possible to develop 2 game threads:
1 for those who are excited to be watching the C's and who can accept a tough night without calling for a blow-up or declaring the season over.

The other thread can be for those who have already given up on the season and just like to state and restate their  negative predictions. You may be correct, but I am already tired of hearing it.

This idea was floated by PLamb/Nick...but was shot down. I'm with you though..2 GTs would be nice.

I'm still all about the "hide" option on people's posts in specific threads. Then I could basically post stuff and agree with myself.

i like this idea.  the ignore/hide button.  two seperate threads seems a little extreme

Grow up
Guys, relax please. Keep it civil, don't look for trouble or start flame wars. Cheers.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:09:09 PM
i don't care if it game 2 or mid april. boston is a middle of the road, old team now. sucks but it is what it is. they don't have any athletes other than rondo that can go with these guys....going to be a lot of night like tonight (maybe not the score) this season
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:09:58 PM
i don't care if it game 2 or mid april. boston is a middle of the road, old team now. sucks but it is what it is. they don't have any athletes other than rondo that can go with these guys....going to be a lot of night like tonight (maybe not the score) this season

+1
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:10:12 PM
Heat only shooting 70 percent. Tomorrow night will be interesting. Tired legs and probably no Pierce or Wilcox

It'll help that we won't be playing LeBron or Melo tomorrow night while we don't have a healthy 3.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Spicoli on December 27, 2011, 10:10:14 PM
If they don't cut the lead to 10 by the start of 4th, they should sit and get ready for the next game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kuberski33 on December 27, 2011, 10:10:36 PM
Heat only shooting 70 percent. Tomorrow night will be interesting. Tired legs and probably no Pierce or Wilcox
Tomorrow is the game you have to win.  Then Friday. This game was a loss the minute you saw it in on the schedule.  Heat are best in league at present.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:11:16 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Have you noticed how 10 players have checked into the game tonight?

for the riual minute..? oh look your guy MD is back in.yay...turnover kid....the usual 6 is all we get...those guys were in for what 3 minutes....wow.
4 bench players played 8 minutes in the first half, that isn't real playing time?

If you're going to by hyperbolic don't get upset when it turns out you are flat out wrong.

you are just watchng your own game in your own world..really, as if you don't see that the celt regualrs aren't doing anything..as if it isn't a youth vs age game here....i know, you learned your game..by WATCHING.hahahahaha...keep watching there ace... just got home from my teams practice..youth..play em..if you sign em..8 minutes coming off the bench is not much for a rookie...they need to play after a mistake...but you know that.....why , you WATCHED hoop for years....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:11:29 PM
Defense is effort. There is little or no effort on that end tonight. None.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:11:58 PM
Norris Cole is pretty good for 28 in the draft
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
Ray had a turnover. He's washed up and sucks.

/forumlogic
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:12:07 PM
Oh my god, you know what I just realized?

Ray Allen has become Eddie House.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:12:10 PM
i for one would like to see moore in the game..think he is better than bradley and could do more...i also agree that tomorrow night is a must win...cannot start 0-3 and looking outclassed doing it..


but is looks as if the celtics D we all are used to is long gone
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:13:10 PM
.edit: sshh. ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:13:22 PM
Ray had a turnover. He's washed up and sucks.

/forumlogic

Ray has a lot of turnovers. He can and always will be able to shoot the lights out of the building but his ball handling abilities are just...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:13:47 PM
doc prefers to tire out old guys than play youth sitting on the bench
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:13:52 PM
Norris Cole is pretty good for 28 in the draft

Yeah, he's fast.  Reminds me of Lawson.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:14:16 PM
What disappoints me the most is that Doc is (once again) not sticking up to his minutes management plan. Why are the starters still playing? We have a back to back tomorrow. Now is the time to prepare for it and give the rookies a chance.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:14:37 PM
Oh my god, you know what I just realized?

Ray Allen has become Eddie House.
I hadn't thought of it like that but that's sadly closer to being true than I'd like.  Ray is still the superior player but his ballhandling/turnovers and reduced offensive repertoire are towards House-like style of play.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 33_Larry Legend_33 on December 27, 2011, 10:14:46 PM
Appreciate the TNT guys writing our obituary though we're only down eleven...  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:14:56 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Have you noticed how 10 players have checked into the game tonight?

for the riual minute..? oh look your guy MD is back in.yay...turnover kid....the usual 6 is all we get...those guys were in for what 3 minutes....wow.
4 bench players played 8 minutes in the first half, that isn't real playing time?

If you're going to by hyperbolic don't get upset when it turns out you are flat out wrong.

you are just watchng your own game in your own world
Indeed I am watching the game where I recognize that Doc has played a 9 man rotation, not a 7 man rotation like you claimed. A nine man rotation has always been what he has done, and it is also what the majority of the NBA does. (The Heat for example have also had 9 men in for regular minutes)

As for all of the personal attacks, cut it out or we'll have to handle it formally.

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:15:00 PM
going to be interesting to see where boston goes next year....and i don't agree playing the vets anymore tonight..esp with a game tomorrow and firday...they need to sit them...tomorrow is the game u need to win
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:16:01 PM
Oh my god, you know what I just realized?

Ray Allen has become Eddie House.
I hadn't thought of it like that but that's sadly closer to being true than I'd like.  Ray is still the superior player but his ballhandling/turnovers and reduced offensive repertoire are towards House-like style of play.
Scary thought, when you think of Eddies place in the rotation, compared to Ray's.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:16:04 PM
What disappoints me the most is that Doc is (once again) not sticking up to his minutes management plan. Why are the starters still playing? We have a back to back tomorrow. Now is the time to prepare for it and give the rookies a chance.

agree 100 percent. the reason bradley stinks is because he didn't get any run last year....looks like this will be the same with jjj and moore
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:16:17 PM
What disappoints me the most is that Doc is (once again) not sticking up to his minutes management plan. Why are the starters still playing? We have a back to back tomorrow. Now is the time to prepare for it and give the rookies a chance.
I agree on the minutes issue but C's are still close enough to have a shot at this--amazingly enough.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:16:45 PM
So we should adjust our normal rotations whenever we're down by 11ish?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:17:03 PM
Finally, Doc changes.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ballin on December 27, 2011, 10:17:16 PM
So no PP and terrible refs, and we're only down by 11? This game could almost actually be encouraging
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:17:27 PM
Kerr, SHUT UP
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:17:37 PM
Time for us to go on a run.

Celts are still hungry, Miami is getting full of themselves.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:17:43 PM
Dooling bringing the shot today.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:17:46 PM
im gonna hold my complaints about doc keeping the starters in until the start of the 4th.

i would think if you start pulling guys too early it can kill moral
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:18:02 PM
So we should adjust our normal rotations whenever we're down by 11ish?

meh...miami miami will keep this at an 11-15 point lead the rest of the way...no need for the starters to tread water and lose tomorrow night's game also tonight
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:18:07 PM
Miami has a big problem giving up leads. They start looking bored.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 33_Larry Legend_33 on December 27, 2011, 10:18:15 PM
At least Doc got his tech in with 27.7 before his "no 4th quarter tech" rule... :)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:18:21 PM
Celtics down 8. Huh.

Also, I hate refs.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:18:38 PM
What disappoints me the most is that Doc is (once again) not sticking up to his minutes management plan. Why are the starters still playing? We have a back to back tomorrow. Now is the time to prepare for it and give the rookies a chance.

agree 100 percent. the reason bradley stinks is because he didn't get any run last year....looks like this will be the same with jjj and moore
not so sure about that -- I think Bradley would stink regardless of how much run he could have got last year
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:19:11 PM
Time to get run, Doc.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:19:32 PM
Nice move by doc with the zone
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:19:38 PM
A zone defense giving Miami problems? I like that Doc is trying different things so early in the season.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:19:42 PM
at times I really think the nba is fixed. refs can single handed win games for teams
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Fafnir on December 27, 2011, 10:19:44 PM
So we should adjust our normal rotations whenever we're down by 11ish?

meh...miami miami will keep this at an 11-15 point lead the rest of the way...no need for the starters to tread water and lose tomorrow night's game also tonight
I don't think you can tell a team of competitive athletes that you're giving up with 15 minutes to play when its only 10 or so points.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: 33_Larry Legend_33 on December 27, 2011, 10:19:51 PM
So, I guess we should give up on tonight's game huh?

Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:19:58 PM
Why can Haslem sit there talking, while no one else on the Celtics can?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:20:06 PM
What disappoints me the most is that Doc is (once again) not sticking up to his minutes management plan. Why are the starters still playing? We have a back to back tomorrow. Now is the time to prepare for it and give the rookies a chance.

agree 100 percent. the reason bradley stinks is because he didn't get any run last year....looks like this will be the same with jjj and moore
not so sure about that -- I think Bradley would stink regardless of how much run he could have got last year

I agree, 100%.

You can only do so much to teach basketball IQ and Bradley doesn't have it.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:20:18 PM
2/3 zone might be how we beat these guys.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: angryguy77 on December 27, 2011, 10:20:27 PM
Celtics down 8. Huh.

Also, I hate refs.

I haven't watched the game and I hate them from what I've read here.
I'm amazed we're even in this
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:20:49 PM
So we should adjust our normal rotations whenever we're down by 11ish?

meh...miami miami will keep this at an 11-15 point lead the rest of the way...no need for the starters to tread water and lose tomorrow night's game also tonight
I don't think you can tell a team of competitive athletes that you're giving up with 15 minutes to play when its only 10 or so points.


just would hate to burn so much energy to keep it close and really hurt tomorrow's game...this team needs to win one of these 3 roadies
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:20:52 PM
single digit lead going into the 4th, you cant waive the white flag yet, as far as PT goes
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:20:54 PM
Celtics down 8. Huh.

Also, I hate refs.
at least they're consistent - always against the C's.  I used to think maybe I was overreacting to the refs last year but seeing the C's were dead last in FT attempts just makes me feel validated in those thoughts.  (yeah, that and $2 will get me a cup of coffee)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: SHAQATTACK on December 27, 2011, 10:20:58 PM
zone when over matched physically
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:21:25 PM
Ths is classic doc rivers..hiding under the bench saying.."fix it kg"   i got no ideas....ever wonder if young guys could cover wade or lebron...well, of course they could get there quicker, jump faster, learn and recover faster..this is what i hate about doc....he can draw up a play...but he will never play or try anything new.....sign new people....why....just pay 7 guys...that is all doc will play anyway....!
Have you noticed how 10 players have checked into the game tonight?

for the riual minute..? oh look your guy MD is back in.yay...turnover kid....the usual 6 is all we get...those guys were in for what 3 minutes....wow.
4 bench players played 8 minutes in the first half, that isn't real playing time?

If you're going to by hyperbolic don't get upset when it turns out you are flat out wrong.

you are just watchng your own game in your own world
Indeed I am watching the game where I recognize that Doc has played a 9 man rotation, not a 7 man rotation like you claimed. A nine man rotation has always been what he has done, and it is also what the majority of the NBA does. (The Heat for example have also had 9 men in for regular minutes)

As for all of the personal attacks, cut it out or we'll have to handle it formally.



treat me they way you wsh to be treated, please..and no other team is lke the celtics...as in OLD...it doesn't matter what other teams do or don't do..it is what we need to do...we can lose tonght, it really isn't the end of the world...but to season some young guys..to get them learning how to cover wade and lebron, bosh..that is preparing for the future, as in the playoffs...which, as Barkley says, is all that matters...and i believe it too..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 10:21:34 PM
YEAH, C's!!

It's NEVER over!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
I have 2 1/2 positives this early season - rondo, bass and a half for ray
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:21:55 PM
Time to experiment entirely defensively, and I agree. The 2-3 zone is worth a look.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:22:00 PM
8 point game with the whole 4th to go....

So I guess its not a blowout and I guess the rookies should stay on the bench and I guess the Celtics should actually try to win this game.

Imagine that!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:22:27 PM
It's not just the zone.  Going small has increased the team speed.  We were way too slow with the KG/JO frontcourt. 

I think we have to start viewing KG as a 5. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:22:41 PM
good things: rondo, ray and bass.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:22:54 PM
celtics will never get the benefit of the doubt with these calls. They have to beat Miami decisively.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:23:07 PM
It's amusing watching the refs officiate, because they try and give the impression that they're neutral, but it's even more obvious that they're calling the game in blatant favor of the Heat.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:23:19 PM
Well, you don't play rookies just because they're there. NO way either one of them is ready to defend and play at the pace Miami is playing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:23:29 PM
8 point game with the whole 4th to go....

So I guess its not a blowout and I guess the rookies should stay on the bench and I guess the Celtics should actually try to win this game.

Imagine that!!!!!

we will see...but if the lead balloons to that 12 plus lead...doc should clear the bench
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:23:33 PM
Not looking forward to seeing KG and JO check back in tbh
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:23:41 PM
What disappoints me the most is that Doc is (once again) not sticking up to his minutes management plan. Why are the starters still playing? We have a back to back tomorrow. Now is the time to prepare for it and give the rookies a chance.

agree 100 percent. the reason bradley stinks is because he didn't get any run last year....looks like this will be the same with jjj and moore
not so sure about that -- I think Bradley would stink regardless of how much run he could have got last year

I agree, 100%.

You can only do so much to teach basketball IQ and Bradley doesn't have it.
yeah, he doesn't seem to have the 'it' factor good young players have when they get on the court.  his D seems more to be the result of being extremely quick rather than knowing how to position himself and play D.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:23:47 PM
8 point game with the whole 4th to go....

So I guess its not a blowout and I guess the rookies should stay on the bench and I guess the Celtics should actually try to win this game.

Imagine that!!!!!

We will have to see what the final score is. Seems Miami cn turn it on when they want.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:23:54 PM
kinda not surprised that Ray has so obviously kept himself in great shape and he's the only member of the Big 3 playing and playing well at the moment.

Garnett just looks old out there, though.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:24:08 PM
Down 8 and 12 minutes to go, we're mathematically still in it but I just don't feel this game, I just fear that Miami might go on a big run in, like, 2 seconds, and finish us off. But who knows? The zone has been surprisingly effective.

I would hate to see Doc run the starters till the end only to lost by a few points but now you sure have to try.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:24:18 PM
It's not just the zone.  Going small has increased the team speed.  We were way too slow with the KG/JO frontcourt. 

I think we have to start viewing KG as a 5. 


boston's BEST line up is rondo, ray, pierce, bass and KG
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
good things: rondo, ray and bass.
I'd like to add Dooling.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:24:42 PM
Doc breaking out the zone. its working
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:24:57 PM
Well, you don't play rookies just because they're there. NO way either one of them is ready to defend and play at the pace Miami is playing.
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:24:59 PM
Down 8 and 12 minutes to go, we're mathematically still in it but I just don't feel this game, I just fear that Miami might go on a big run in, like, 2 seconds, and finish us off. But who knows? The zone has been surprisingly effective.

I would hate to see Doc run the starters till the end only to lost by a few points but now you sure have to try.
Yeah, we feel pretty bad, but I'd like to gut this win out just to smash the Heat's ego.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:25:19 PM
Down 8 and 12 minutes to go, we're mathematically still in it but I just don't feel this game, I just fear that Miami might go on a big run in, like, 2 seconds, and finish us off. But who knows? The zone has been surprisingly effective.

I would hate to see Doc run the starters till the end only to lost by a few points but now you sure have to try.


i agree with you...feel like miami will push this right back up quickly
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TenaciousD on December 27, 2011, 10:25:56 PM
Finally Got Bass going. He and Rondo need to be on court together. In fact, he needs to start (Doc?).
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:26:04 PM
lol
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:26:18 PM
KG making sure he ends KG's career early. too many minutes
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:26:25 PM
Finally Got Bass going. He and Rondo need to be on court together. In fact, he needs to start (Doc?).


yep...bass needs to start....sit JO
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:26:57 PM
Is Norris cole that much better than e. Moore? As I said, the heat can turn it on whenever they want. Why get out of the zone? Wow. This cole guy is good. Time to get he starters out.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:27:41 PM
good things: rondo, ray and bass.
I'd like to add Dooling.
I'd like to too but I can't.  His ballhandling, turnovers and decision making have been pretty disappointing so far.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:28:00 PM
Is Norris cole that much better than e. Moore? As I said, the heat can turn it on whenever they want. Why get out of the zone? Wow. This cole guy is good. Time to get he starters out.

We'll never know. Cole plays. Moore doesn't.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:28:09 PM
Dooling is leading the team at +10 and has 11 points.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:28:14 PM
Dooling is extremely mediocre
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:28:45 PM
miami seems to just toy with teams...dooling is fine....not great...not sasha
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 27, 2011, 10:28:51 PM
gotta remind ya

we are not the same team..we will get better
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:28:58 PM
7-2 just like that.  the Heat are simply explosive.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:29:17 PM
These calls...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 27, 2011, 10:29:29 PM
Finally Got Bass going. He and Rondo need to be on court together. In fact, he needs to start (Doc?).


yep...bass needs to start....sit JO

BASS!!


*sippin*
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:29:32 PM
miami seems to just toy with teams

this was my main reaction watching this game, as well.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
Ball Don't Lie
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:29:56 PM
Dooling is leading the team at +10 and has 11 points.
that '+' just makes me question that stat.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:30:00 PM
7-2 just like that.  the Heat are simply explosive.

yep...boston just can't keep up. i am anxious to see the Cs tomorrow. if they lay an egg and lose at NO then we have some serious issues
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:30:07 PM
I really don't like to see Rondo play off the ball.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 27, 2011, 10:30:43 PM
Ball Don't Lie


sheed is much needed  now playa~
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
Not even a makeup call on the other end..this is just pathetic behavior by the refs
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:31:28 PM
JO looks horrendous. Sure wish that trade went through. Might as well be playing without a center.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:31:34 PM
These calls...
even the TNT sycophants noted that Bavetta (surprise, surprise) blew that call.  horrible.  The Corpse should be forced into retirement with Crawford.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:31:38 PM
what exactly is boston going to do with o neal? he just seems to bring zero to the party
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
When Miami decides to play lockdown defense they make take really bad shots.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
I really don't like to see Rondo play off the ball.

It's one of the ways they get him rest. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
nba...where the refs want the spotlight happens
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:32:14 PM
well, if the heat don't run us down..the "homer" refs will...doc did good there with the D change.....he might know more than me....LOL...i can be wrong..except for my love for the game, and the celts......still like to work the rookies in...miami is...cole......you don't learn how to fly a plane by a simulator only...!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Spicoli on December 27, 2011, 10:32:15 PM
O'neal can't board, protect the rim, or score in the paint.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:32:36 PM
The foul on Bosh was... wow. Speechless.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:32:39 PM
When Miami decides to play lockdown defense they make take really bad shots.

It doesn't help that they don't have to guard 3/5 of our team on the perimeter.  They are packing the paint and sticking to our 2 shooters.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
J.O'N. is a B.U.M.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:33:04 PM
O'neal can't board, protect the rim, or score in the paint.

Just looks pathetic.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 27, 2011, 10:33:18 PM
Wade and Lebron are my two least favorite players in the league because both of them just try to run over people and wait for the ref to inevitably blow the whistle.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:33:25 PM
o neal is sasha bad. he is toast
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:33:27 PM
JO 0 points and 1 rebound

pathetic
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:33:43 PM
After the next 2 games all the haters are gonna change their tune.

Miami is beyond talented.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:34:04 PM
JO 0 points and 1 rebound

pathetic

Is this really his line? LOL!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 27, 2011, 10:34:32 PM
i like bass in the post..
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:34:38 PM
This lineup on offense is absolutely brutal
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:35:03 PM
After the next 2 games all the haters are gonna change their tune.

Miami is beyond talented.

colored me concerned about the next 2 games for boston. i know miami is a great team..but this shortened sked has me concerned


dear god...i dont want to see o neal nor sasha play for boston ever again
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 10:35:14 PM
If the calls weren't so pathetic and we had Pietrus and Pierce you never know, they are showing something here while Miami looks spent.

I said it in another thread with the Heat the way they play it's hard to think they can keep it up for 48 minutes their human after all tons of games risk injury to one of them as well the way they play above the rim constantly
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:35:17 PM
JO 0 points and 1 rebound

pathetic

Come on man, don't forget his 1 steal.  :P
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:35:38 PM
I really don't like to see Rondo play off the ball.

It's one of the ways they get him rest. 

They're better off sitting him than playing two PGs and not having Rondo control the ball. I love Rondo, but he is dreadful off the ball, and they can't keep pretending it's the same as when Pierce takes over control, because Dooling can't guard 2s.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:35:44 PM
The refs hate us. We can't score. We can't defend.

There's no possible way to win this game.

Oh well. If the Lakers lose tonight as well I'll feel much better.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:36:01 PM
JO 0 points and 1 rebound

pathetic
wow....just wow.   

It's only 2 games into the year but if JO isn't posting something better than this by the middle of next week, time to start Bass.  Let JO work against second units and he might produce something.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:36:14 PM
15 point lead and putting the starters back in.

eeck
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:36:55 PM
How many shots have the blocked tonight?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
wow....game is over and doc is out to lose tomorrow nights game tonight also...simply stupid coaching
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:37:09 PM
dear god...i dont want to see o neal nor sasha play for boston ever again

Agreed on both. Already mentioned Sasha earlier. About JO, I want athleticism from my center spot. I'd love JO off the bench for about 12-15 mins.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:37:43 PM
Brandon Bass is great.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:37:44 PM
Wade seems to get a lot of wrist on those blocks.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:37:59 PM
time to start bass
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:38:34 PM
How many shots have the blocked tonight?
legitimately or blocked because the refs swallowed their whistles?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:38:46 PM
hell..i would take white boy over JO...at least white bread can defend and still can move
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:38:52 PM
15 point lead and putting the starters back in.

eeck

Make that 9.

Score one for Doc.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:39:05 PM
How the hell are we still in this game?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:39:12 PM
i agree with others . . . JO should come off the bench.  I'd rather see Wilcox or Bass start. 

and please dear god, no more sasha "i do nothing" pavlovic.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:39:20 PM
Ray was outta bounds on that last three.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:39:35 PM
Looking at the positives : Bass is still awesome and Ray looks like he did get YOUNGER during the lockout. :P Pure stroke!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
Ray, rondo and Bass
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:39:43 PM
This Celtic team has the heart of a warrior.

They are not giving up and they are not waving a white flag.

They set a good example for how one should comport themselves.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: j804 on December 27, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
How can you not love the fight and heart of this team?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:39:53 PM
i agree with others . . . JO should come off the bench.  I'd rather see Wilcox or Bass start.  

and please dear god, no more sasha "i do nothing" pavlovic.

JO should come off the roster.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:40:01 PM
How the hell are we still in this game?

His name is Ray Allen
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:40:02 PM
well, the celts heart keeps 'em in this one...a good one to learn from...we'll see them again..kg will hate this enough to fix his team..and pp will help....they aren't done yet...i think we will win tomorrow night....even the Patriots lost a few early..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
How the hell are we still in this game?

A combination of the C's being pretty good and Miami always getting lazy.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:40:11 PM
so michael redd is worse than sasha?? i mean really...redd would be a huge improvement
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:40:33 PM
With a healthy Pierce and Pietrus I think we will be fine, but can we get rid of Sasha and trade J.O. for a candy bar or something a.s.a.p?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:40:40 PM
Wade seems to get a lot of wrist on those blocks.
didn't you know, the wrist is part ball for Wade.

and I quote: "IT'S WADE'S WORLD, WADE'S WORLD"  fill in the rest while envisioning Mike Myers.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:40:43 PM
ray allen is really benjamin button
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:41:04 PM
This Celtic team has the heart of a warrior.

They are not giving up and they are not waving a white flag.

They set a good example for how one should comport themselves.
They might be old, but they're gnarly as they come.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: cman88 on December 27, 2011, 10:41:19 PM
too bad we didnt start playing this zone defense earlier in the game. seems like this really gets teh heats number because they are stuck shooting jumpers.

Dallas did the same thing in the playoffs
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:41:21 PM
15 point lead and putting the starters back in.

eeck

Make that 9.

Score one for Doc.

touche.

but i have a feeling if this game was against anyone else besides Miami, Chicago, or LA, we wouldnt have seen that
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:41:33 PM
How the hell are we still in this game?

Good second half defense.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:41:35 PM
ray allen is really benjamin button
Hahaha TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:41:54 PM
I love Brandon Bass, but he is no starter. He is a perfect bench guy who adds much needed scoring to a unit that would otherwise struggle to score.

He needs to stay where he is, IMO.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:42:00 PM
too bad we didnt start playing this zone defense earlier in the game. seems like this really gets teh heats number because they are stuck shooting jumpers.

Dallas did the same thing in the playoffs

yep...if miami has to shoot jumpers...they aren't nearly as good
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: KCattheStripe on December 27, 2011, 10:42:06 PM
I love how this team is competing without Pierce.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:42:40 PM
I love Brandon Bass, but he is no starter. He is a perfect bench guy who adds much needed scoring to a unit that would otherwise struggle to score.

He needs to stay where he is, IMO.

they who do you start?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:43:10 PM
wow nice heisman
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:43:17 PM
looked like a push off by Cole on that

hey, TNT said it just as I was typing it
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:43:22 PM


they who do you start?
[/quote]

Sasha... :P
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
I would start Wilcox.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 10:43:34 PM
I love how this team is competing without Pierce.

TP.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
I would start Wilcox.


he is hurt
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: barefacedmonk on December 27, 2011, 10:44:38 PM
Quote
Doc Rivers apoplectic on the sideline, and I don't blame him. Cole pushed off. Another missed call.

- Chris Mannix

#NBARefsSuck
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:44:59 PM
well, at least the C's may get a moral victory here.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:45:11 PM
Bass for President. How can people say he isn't an upgrade over Baby?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:45:14 PM
someone needs to plant Bron on those drives.  no excuse for him to just get a layup like that.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
I love the hustle from Bass. He fits in perfect on this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:45:25 PM
Simply cannot defend that play by James.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:45:43 PM
C'mon Green, let's gut this one out. GUT IT OUT!!!

GET THIS W!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:45:46 PM
someone needs to plant Bron on those drives.  no excuse for him to just get a layup like that.

Seriously. Its disgusting.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:45:49 PM
I would start Wilcox.


he is hurt

True. I wouldn't mind seeing Bass as a spot starter, but I think for the sake of the bench he's better on the 2nd unit.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celticinorlando on December 27, 2011, 10:45:51 PM
i knew boston would get screwed like Andy dufresne tonight when I saw beveta's old rump out there
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
Bass for President. How can people say he isn't an upgrade over Baby?
Thank god Dwight wanted BBD.  Maybe we can talk Dwight into wanting JO and Sasha too  ;)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:46:24 PM
rebounding 24-35. 

yikes.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
OMG

Screw these refs!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:46:49 PM
Bass for President. How can people say he isn't an upgrade over Baby?
Because we lost a lot more over the past year than Baby, and it looks like he's not playing in Baby's place, but in Perk's.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:46:54 PM
CHARGE! NBA where Refs happen.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:47:01 PM
Cole now getting the Wade and LeBron calls...awful.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 27, 2011, 10:47:02 PM
Where is Tommy announcing these games when you need him?  Refs handed the game to Miami there.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:47:04 PM
I HATE THE NBA
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
OMG  how many blatant blown calls can there be!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:47:18 PM
Wow, maybe the worst charge call I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
Doc Rivers needs to take the fine and GO OFF on the refs in the post game. This just cannot go on.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:47:36 PM
Okay, just throw in the bench. Can't beat Miami and the refs together.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:47:37 PM
RIDICULOUS

STUPID STUPID STUPID REFS.

Horrible. Come on that's just :(

Screw you you bloody ... UGH.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:47:38 PM
BS REFS
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:47:39 PM
Can't beat the refs too!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:47:44 PM
Your screwed when a rookie is getting the calls against you.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:48:03 PM
That's it. You gotta get run on that call. That's just awful.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:48:04 PM
The refs have a suite in miami tonght..come on.....drinks with pat riley...priceless....we  couldn't come close with ths type of reffing..! geebees...!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
Cole was not even moving on that play, he was litterally DANCING!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:48:17 PM
3 big blown calls pointed out by the analysts on tv in like the last 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:48:30 PM
Horrible call, but nice to see a rookie get playing time and score 14 points. Doc shoul get tossed. This officiating is ludicrous
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 10:48:48 PM
well hey guys, at least we're not losing to the Kings, amirite?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 10:49:04 PM
lol...that "Charge" on Bass, wow....the refs missed that one big time.

Cole's feet weren't even set.

This game appears slanted officiating-wise.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:49:33 PM
At least in the competitions I play in, our team can walk off the court when the refs act like that. Just say "Screw this." and walk off. File a complaint. Etc.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 10:50:14 PM
Your screwed when a rookie is getting the calls against you.

As if having Lebron and Wade get all the calls wasn't enough, it now has to extend to the scrubs on the team?? Really???
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:52:08 PM
LOL a clear make up call.  basket doesnt count but two free throws???

im sorry.  to our benefit or not, the NBA is SOOOOO shady!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:52:38 PM
Your screwed when a rookie is getting the calls against you.

As if having Lebron and Wade get all the calls wasn't enough, it now has to extend to the scrubs on the team?? Really???

All about the Jersey he is wearing.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:52:44 PM
bavetta the same guy always...always the same calls.....OVERRULED, HA..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:53:04 PM
Doc's defense change turned this game around. Huge credit to him.  This is nuts
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:53:08 PM
dooling the ICEMAN
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:53:12 PM
KEYON FOR THREEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 27, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
DOOLING FOR 3, AND IT'S A 3 POINT GAME!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:53:15 PM
Dooling!

Holy cow!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:53:17 PM
DOOOOOOOOOLINGGGGGGG!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:53:21 PM
Dooling GOAT
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 27, 2011, 10:53:25 PM
take that Miami Lebrons!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:53:29 PM
OMG guys the sky is falling! C's right back in this in a major way!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 10:53:32 PM
Woooooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:53:38 PM
Against all odds, Bron', Wade, the refs, we are still in this!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Chief on December 27, 2011, 10:53:40 PM
i love it!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Tradetime on December 27, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
These calls...
even the TNT sycophants noted that Bavetta (surprise, surprise) blew that call.  horrible.  The Corpse should be forced into retirement with Crawford.

When Steve Kerr is saying the refs made a bad call against us, then.....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:53:54 PM
We would be leading if it weren't for so many awful calls. I take back any negative comments I made earlier. This team has way too much heart.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 27, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
Doc's defense change turned this game around. Huge credit to him.  This is nuts

It was Thibs!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:54:07 PM
I eat my words..doc did a great call with the zone.....well, now i know why he got the job over me.!  LOL..kidding..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:54:10 PM
I changed my mind. I LOVE Dooling! :)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: syfy9 on December 27, 2011, 10:54:19 PM
DOOLING I LOVE YOU MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
All Dooling hate should be suspended for at least one game. This guy is keeping us alive.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:54:31 PM
That horrible charging call has turned the refs the celts way
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:54:38 PM
3 big blown calls pointed out by the analysts on tv in like the last 5 minutes.
yup.  ask yourself when was the last time you heard TV mouthpieces question even 1 call in a game, nevermind several within such a short time frame.

C's should be sending this atrocity to the league office for investigation.  The legacy of Tim Donaghy lives on   >:(
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 10:54:46 PM
Wow I'm glad I didn't bad mouth dooling like I wanted to in he first...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:54:55 PM
Holy crap, it's a one possession game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 10:54:58 PM
Against all odds, Bron', Wade, the refs, we are still in this!

without pierce!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: dtrader on December 27, 2011, 10:55:05 PM
I seriously just jumped off the couch lol.  Incredible come back.  My fingers are crossed we can pull it out, but if not, I respect the fight that the team showed, and the changes Doc made.  Definitely showing heart.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 10:55:29 PM
Crap, watching the game on my computer, and it just overheated and quit, right after they blew the charge call. What happened? :(
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TenaciousD on December 27, 2011, 10:55:32 PM
Dooling and Rondo. There's a twist. Props, coach.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:55:35 PM
Doc's defense change turned this game around. Huge credit to him.  This is nuts
No its not nuts. This team is this good and missing Pierce, Green, Pietrus and Wilcox.

How about giving credit to these players, they have played their asses off.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:55:35 PM
DUMB DUMB DUMB!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:55:40 PM
What an awful turnover...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BudweiserCeltic on December 27, 2011, 10:55:43 PM
Wow, Rondo... what a crappy pass. May have just screwed us.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Roy H. on December 27, 2011, 10:55:45 PM
Aw, man, terrible sequence right there.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:55:49 PM
Thanks for that Rondo.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 10:55:56 PM
Rondo looking like a rookie... AHHHH  :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:56:10 PM
Rondo always pulls some crap like that...unbelievable.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:56:13 PM
Wow. 16 points for th 28th pick in the draft
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:56:26 PM
Emotional roller coaster...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:56:37 PM
Maybe if we drafted players like Cole, they'd play, eh?

Terrible decision by Rondo. Run the offense and get Ray a shot.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:56:38 PM
Cole, proof of why to take a chance and play the rookies...'cause ya never know....
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:56:39 PM
Rondo still making stupid, critical mistakes in the clutch.  :-X
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 10:56:46 PM
You gotta take the good with the bad on Rondo.  Loves to take high risk/high reward passes.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:57:04 PM
No need to look for the highlight reel there Rondo. A loss now would suck.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 10:57:15 PM
Doc's defense change turned this game around. Huge credit to him.  This is nuts

It was Thibs!
Well played sir!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 10:57:40 PM
Rondo what was he thinking
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:57:46 PM
Norris Cole > Lebron James in the clutch
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 27, 2011, 10:57:59 PM
bass is so much better than baby its ridiculous
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: syfy9 on December 27, 2011, 10:58:04 PM
Anyone else seeing the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. commercial? Curse any cheerleader with a Kobe jersey...


It's a good day to be a Celtic.  
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 10:58:33 PM
[dang]. Good possession and they still get it.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 10:58:35 PM
Why is no one defending Cole? WHY?! We don't deserve to win this game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 10:58:39 PM
Start this lineup tomorrow night. By cant we get guys like Norris Cole?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Meadowlark_Scal on December 27, 2011, 10:58:41 PM
bass is so much better than baby its ridiculous
I agree there..!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 10:59:01 PM
At least the Heat have found their clutch shooter...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 10:59:15 PM
Rondo with the weak gamble instead of the close-out.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 10:59:18 PM
Send Rondo to the bench  :'(

Just sickening
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 10:59:20 PM
Norris Cole > Lebron James in the clutch

Yea. LeBron passing it up like the whimp he is.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 10:59:24 PM
credit to Cole -- kid has balls. 

can't believe the C's have kept it this close.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 10:59:28 PM
Two games in and I already hate Norris Cole.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 10:59:44 PM
The NBA Gods really don't want us to win...shut down Lebron, Wade, bosh, and we are getting beat by Norris Cole
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 11:00:04 PM
I can live with the strategy of make a rookie beat you. If they lose and its because Cole hit those shots, my hat off to the kid.

Its the thing to do.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 11:00:11 PM
We tried...I guess.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: jimmehx on December 27, 2011, 11:00:18 PM
Really dumb pass from Rondo to dooling. And this Cole kid either the next big thing or seriously grooving.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Roy H. on December 27, 2011, 11:00:19 PM
Crud. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on December 27, 2011, 11:00:25 PM
Why is no one defending Cole? WHY?! We don't deserve to win this game.

You'd rather they leave Wade open? If Cole plays like that, there's just no beating this team.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: celtsfan907 on December 27, 2011, 11:00:36 PM
Here is an idea - maybe stop falling behind by double digits every game so we don't have to be in this position?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 11:00:40 PM
Too much by bass on that play. Good effort, but now 0-2. Beaten by the 28th pik in the draft. Please don't start Jo tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 11:01:17 PM
Here is an idea - maybe stop falling behind by double digits every game so we don't have to be in this position?

That wouldn't be fun.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 11:01:18 PM
I can live with the strategy of make a rookie beat you. If they lose and its because Cole hit those shots, my hat off to the kid.

Its the thing to do.

TP to you, sir.

It would be insane to ask for anything more out of this group tonight.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TenaciousD on December 27, 2011, 11:01:22 PM
Start this lineup tomorrow night. By cant we get guys like Norris Cole?

Hm. passed on Cole, Kevin Martin

drafted. Walker, Giddens, Bradley, Allen etc. Common denominator? Wing players who cant shoot.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kwhit10 on December 27, 2011, 11:01:26 PM
LeBron deferring to a rookie to bail him out in the clutch...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 11:01:32 PM
So who came into tonight thinking the Celtics were going to be killed down the stretch by Norris Cole?

Show of hands.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 11:01:58 PM
Too much by bass on that play. Good effort, but now 0-2. Beaten by the 28th pik in the draft. Please don't start Jo tomorrow night.
now let's be fair.  he had lots of help from the refs tonight.  let's give credit where it's due
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 27, 2011, 11:02:11 PM
A random rookie beat us instead of Wade, James and Bosh.  I'm strangely okay with this.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greg683x on December 27, 2011, 11:02:15 PM
Why is no one defending Cole? WHY?! We don't deserve to win this game.

when lebron, bosh, and wade require so much attention, youre gonna have to concede an open look for a rookie or other mediocre role player from beyond 20ft, especially in the clutch
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 11:02:23 PM
Rondo, kg and ray will be on fumes tomorrow night
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: DKClassic on December 27, 2011, 11:02:30 PM
Start this lineup tomorrow night. By cant we get guys like Norris Cole?

Hm. passed on Cole, Kevin Martin

drafted. Walker, Giddens, Bradley, Allen etc. Common denominator? Wing players who cant shoot.
Wouldn't even be on the floor right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Change on December 27, 2011, 11:02:44 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: PosImpos on December 27, 2011, 11:02:46 PM
Too much by bass on that play. Good effort, but now 0-2. Beaten by the 28th pik in the draft. Please don't start Jo tomorrow night.

Agreed.  I like this lineup finishing the game.  Rondo - Dooling - Ray - Bass - KG is probably the best lineup we can put out there right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 11:02:51 PM
Did we really pass up this Norris Cole guy? LOL...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mainevent on December 27, 2011, 11:03:10 PM
This team is gonna be the team to beat when PP and MP come thru that door! We've lost to two good teams PLUS the garbage refs in close games without two guys that will be huge for us, one an all-star and one will be an important role player. I can't WAIT till we are fully healthy! I honestly believe we will come out of the East as champs!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheBig5 on December 27, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
A random rookie beat us instead of Wade, James and Bosh.  I'm strangely okay with this.

Refs also had a lot of assists.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: nickagneta on December 27, 2011, 11:03:28 PM
Proud of this team.

Tough roadie to start the season and they played with heart and class.

Clearly they have more faith in themselves than some of their fans have in them.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Drucci on December 27, 2011, 11:03:37 PM
Ultimately we do lose and Doc has played the starters till the end. But I loved the heart, effort, Doc's smart moves, the clutch shots, etc. This team has been amazing without Pierce and in the face of incredible adversity (a 20 point lead + the refs on Miami's side).

I think we will just be fine when Pierce comes back and Pietrus comes in. I just hope we will be OK for a tough back to back tomorrow, time to get our first win.

Good night everybody!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: vinnie on December 27, 2011, 11:03:41 PM
Too much by bass on that play. Good effort, but now 0-2. Beaten by the 28th pik in the draft. Please don't start Jo tomorrow night.
now let's be fair.  he had lots of help from the refs tonight.  let's give credit where it's due

Cole had no help from the refs. Shows what rookies can do if they play
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CelticSooner on December 27, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
So who came into tonight thinking the Celtics were going to be killed down the stretch by Norris Cole?

Show of hands.

lol

Sometimes players just got it that night. There's some positives from this game. One being Miami not being able to handle a zone.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 11:03:52 PM
It is clear what needs to be done. Convince PJ Brown to come out of retirement and cut Siemesa. Convince Sam Cassell to come out of retirement. Sign James Posey and cut Pavlovic. Sign Eddie House. Bam, all will be well.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 11:03:54 PM
Start this lineup tomorrow night. By cant we get guys like Norris Cole?

Hm. passed on Cole, Kevin Martin

drafted. Walker, Giddens, Bradley, Allen etc. Common denominator? Wing players who cant shoot.
Wouldn't even be on the floor right now.

Very true...even if we did draft him, he would never see the court.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: letsgoblue86 on December 27, 2011, 11:04:01 PM
Norris Cole getting the MVP chants...smh I can't stand the Heat jesus
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
This team is gonna be the team to beat when PP and MP come thru that door! We've lost to two good teams PLUS the garbage refs in close games without two guys that will be huge for us, one an all-star and one will be an important role player. I can't WAIT till we are fully healthy! I honestly believe we will come out of the East as champs!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Provided that Leader Stern doesn't have other ideas...
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 11:04:48 PM
This team is gonna be the team to beat when PP and MP come thru that door! We've lost to two good teams PLUS the garbage refs in close games without two guys that will be huge for us, one an all-star and one will be an important role player. I can't WAIT till we are fully healthy! I honestly believe we will come out of the East as champs!
that is definitely the positive spin to put on the season so far.  PP starting instead of Sasha most likely would have resulted in 2 wins assuming everyone else plays at the same levels.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on December 27, 2011, 11:05:03 PM
Well, at least they put up a fight.

Still proud of our C's.

This group showed a lot of spunk, to me.

Lost by 7 to My Hammy without Paul Pierce and Mickael Pietrus.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Green Hell on December 27, 2011, 11:05:07 PM
Sooooo... Rondo, JO, Bradley and picks to the Clippers for Paul?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Tradetime on December 27, 2011, 11:05:20 PM
Well, we know what kind of defense we should be playing going forward the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheTruthFot18 on December 27, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
Considering the odds, I am pleased with the outcome. I bet I wasn't the only one who tough they could pull a win off in those last two minutes. Really miss Pierce
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: YouGotRondo d on December 27, 2011, 11:05:30 PM
It is clear what needs to be done. Convince PJ Brown to come out of retirement and cut Siemesa. Convince Sam Cassell to come out of retirement. Sign James Posey and cut Pavlovic. Sign Eddie House. Bam, all will be well.

What about 'Toine and Waltah?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:05:44 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GrandTheftRondo on December 27, 2011, 11:06:01 PM
Sooooo... Rondo, JO, Bradley and picks to the Clippers for Paul?

After the game you just watched, you seriously think what we need is Chris Paul?  ::)
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: houseonfire09 on December 27, 2011, 11:06:03 PM
Norris Cole getting the MVP chants...smh I can't stand the Heat jesus

Oh come on, the kid deserves a little love from the fans.  At least it proves that not all Heat fans are like "Hey look, there's Lebron!!!"
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: slamtheking on December 27, 2011, 11:06:25 PM
Too much by bass on that play. Good effort, but now 0-2. Beaten by the 28th pik in the draft. Please don't start Jo tomorrow night.
now let's be fair.  he had lots of help from the refs tonight.  let's give credit where it's due

Cole had no help from the refs. Shows what rookies can do if they play
he did get some help on that blatant blocking foul that was called a charge but my point is that the refs also played a big part in winning the game for Miami
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: syfy9 on December 27, 2011, 11:07:34 PM
Norris Cole getting the MVP chants...smh I can't stand the Heat jesus

Oh come on, the kid deserves a little love from the fans.  At least it proves that not all Heat fans are like "Hey look, there's Lebron!!!"

Meanwhile in Chicago...

SCALABRINE FOR MVP!!!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 11:08:19 PM
Good second half. Wish we'd gone zone earlier. HAVE to play harder in the man defense. The effort just wasn't there.

Wish we'd given ourselves a chance offensively down the stretch. Some ugly veteran decisions there when running a set and actually defending was the thing to do. No mulligans. HAVE to make better decisions than that - on both ends - down the stretch of a close game against a good team.

Miami's much more athletic than we are - and most people - but their attention span still isn't much.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: kozlodoev on December 27, 2011, 11:09:05 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: RebusRankin on December 27, 2011, 11:11:08 PM
It is clear what needs to be done. Convince PJ Brown to come out of retirement and cut Siemesa. Convince Sam Cassell to come out of retirement. Sign James Posey and cut Pavlovic. Sign Eddie House. Bam, all will be well.

What about 'Toine and Waltah?

Them too. Perhaps we can get Acie Earl and Mike Smith as well.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:12:51 PM

Wish we'd given ourselves a chance offensively down the stretch. Some ugly veteran decisions there when running a set and actually defending was the thing to do. No mulligans. HAVE to make better decisions than that - on both ends - down the stretch of a close game against a good team.


Mistakes are a part of the game, especially this early in the season after a lockout.  It would have been a miracle if we won. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: BASS_THUMPER on December 27, 2011, 11:14:16 PM
on the real tho

it's still fun to watch my Celtic's

win or lose
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:15:04 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Kiorrik on December 27, 2011, 11:17:42 PM
Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
To be honest, I think we need to stop looking for "the person that lost us the game" and start looking at why our defense just isn't doing what it should be doing.

There's too many things wrong with this team to point to one person and say "you're it".
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: kozlodoev on December 27, 2011, 11:19:30 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
No, but it raises interesting questions about his ability to carry a team on his back. Early results seem to be that Rondo really isn't very clutch at this stage of his career.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: greensquirrel on December 27, 2011, 11:19:40 PM
I never thought I woul feel good after two consecutive losses. This team is game and will only get better.
Go Celts!
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: GreenEnvy on December 27, 2011, 11:20:10 PM
The only things I took away from this game is Miami doesn't scare me and our bench is gonna be good.

Regardless of the game Cole had and the refs clearly making numerous terrible calls, we were still right in the game. LeBron and Wade were getting to the rim too often and those will eventually turn to jumpers in the halfcourt.

I'm gonna love watching Dooling, Pietrus, and Bass with a starter or two.


It looked like the Heat were practicing together all summer and the Celtics started getting ready a couple weeks ago. And yet we were right there in the end without our best scorer and wing defender.

Yes we are 0-2, but neither the Knicks nor the Heat look as tough as most are making them out to be.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ChainSmokingLikeDino on December 27, 2011, 11:20:18 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

Yeah, Rondo had nothing to do with the comeback. Wouldn't have been a comeback without Rondo. The guy can't win around here.

And The C's lost this game by getting into some ruts and the fact that for 3 quarters Miami just could not miss. That said, some of those 4th quarter calls were atrocious and did not help. The matter of a possession here and a possession there. Made a huge difference. Wouldn't have minded seeing Doc get tossed in this one. A few were just atrocious and ruined any momentum we had.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:20:18 PM
Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
To be honest, I think we need to stop looking for "the person that lost us the game" and start looking at why our defense just isn't doing what it should be doing.

There's too many things wrong with this team to point to one person and say "you're it".

Sure, I just hate to see a guy who put in a flawed, but overall pretty special all around performance getting scapegoated for the loss.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: lightspeed5 on December 27, 2011, 11:20:51 PM
sadly not getting pierce or pietrus anytime soon.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 11:21:53 PM
A random rookie beat us instead of Wade, James and Bosh.  I'm strangely okay with this.

Refs also had a lot of assists.
They should have had on Heat jerseys.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: KCattheStripe on December 27, 2011, 11:22:14 PM
This team is fine when Pierce comes back. Get ready to see a lot of that zone in the coming weeks, KG's atleticism is limited and the Zone allows him to use it in shorter contained bursts. Like taking your ar-15 off full auto.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:23:17 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
No, but it raises interesting questions about his ability to carry a team on his back. Early results seem to be that Rondo really isn't very clutch at this stage of his career.

I certainly wouldn't want Rondo as the crunch time scorer for my squad, but he has more than enough crunch time bonafides as a distributor.

LeBron, Wade, Pierce, KG, Ray: they all have made significant mistakes in crunch time.  It's a function of being relied on so much for decision making. 
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: CoachBo on December 27, 2011, 11:25:55 PM
Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
To be honest, I think we need to stop looking for "the person that lost us the game" and start looking at why our defense just isn't doing what it should be doing.

There's too many things wrong with this team to point to one person and say "you're it".

Sure, I just hate to see a guy who put in a flawed, but overall pretty special all around performance getting scapegoated for the loss.
Scapegoated is a strong word.

I keep reading on this blog - again and again - that we have the best point guard in the league.

To get that designation, you have to play better down the stretch of big games than Rondo did tonight. He did some good things - but his FT shooting still isn't good enough, either, and his lack of defense on Cole out front hurt late, too.

No one person lost this game. Plenty of blame defensively in the first half to spread around. Bass' shot selection late wasn't great, either.

But the criticism of Rondo's last two minutes is precise and spot on, IMHO. He has to be better than that.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:33:59 PM
Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?
To be honest, I think we need to stop looking for "the person that lost us the game" and start looking at why our defense just isn't doing what it should be doing.

There's too many things wrong with this team to point to one person and say "you're it".

Sure, I just hate to see a guy who put in a flawed, but overall pretty special all around performance getting scapegoated for the loss.
Scapegoated is a strong word.

I keep reading on this blog - again and again - that we have the best point guard in the league.

To get that designation, you have to play better down the stretch of big games than Rondo did tonight. He did some good things - but his FT shooting still isn't good enough, either, and his lack of defense on Cole out front hurt late, too.

No one person lost this game. Plenty of blame defensively in the first half to spread around. Bass' shot selection late wasn't great, either.

But the criticism of Rondo's last two minutes is precise and spot on, IMHO. He has to be better than that.

I think the consensus on the board is that Rondo's a top 5 pg, after Paul, Rose, D-Will and Russell Westbrook.  But if you feel it necessary to address the "Rondo is the best" contingent in every Rondo discussion so be it.

He's an excellent PG and had a very good game with a bad ending.  Just didn't want that perspective to get lost in the hostile outpouring to finish the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Lord of Mikawa on December 27, 2011, 11:44:21 PM
We played from behind the entire game. That is why we lost.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: kozlodoev on December 27, 2011, 11:45:17 PM
I certainly wouldn't want Rondo as the crunch time scorer for my squad, but he has more than enough crunch time bonafides as a distributor.
Being clutch doesn't mean being a score. It means giving him the ball when the game is on the line and trusting that he can make stuff happen.

Sadly, I haven't seen this from Rondo really (and I think the problem is more fundamental than shaky free throws). He can carry your team for stretches during the game, but closing out is a different story.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: rayallen1934 on December 27, 2011, 11:49:24 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?

why wouldnt it? It may have cost us the game or tie

If Ray had turned it over, it would be the main reason we didnt tie or have a chance to win that game...

and since Rondo is the guy, he should take most of the blame
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:49:44 PM
I certainly wouldn't want Rondo as the crunch time scorer for my squad, but he has more than enough crunch time bonafides as a distributor.
Being clutch doesn't mean being a score. It means giving him the ball when the game is on the line and trusting that he can make stuff happen.

Sadly, I haven't seen this from Rondo really (and I think the problem is more fundamental than shaky free throws). He can carry your team for stretches during the game, but closing out is a different story.

I think his lack of scoring/the slower pace of close games in crunch time lessens his impact for this team in crunch time. But I think his decision-making is usually pretty good and he's still a capable half-court penetrator. 

And on a team that is built to run regardless of the time of the game (as the Suns did in recent incarnations), I think Rondo would be just as effective as he is during "stretches in the game."
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: snively on December 27, 2011, 11:51:38 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?

why wouldnt it? It may have cost us the game or tie

If Ray had turned it over, it would be the main reason we didnt tie or have a chance to win that game...

and since Rondo is the guy, he should take most of the blame

Why do they even play the first 3.5 quarters if nothing that happens during those periods ultimately matters?



Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: ManUp on December 28, 2011, 12:07:15 AM
Our guys played their butts off and left it all on the court. I have nothing to complain about on their end. I'll just say I was not at all happy about the officiating.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: hpantazo on December 28, 2011, 12:09:55 AM
Our guys played their butts off and left it all on the court. I have nothing to complain about on their end. I'll just say I was not at all happy about the officiating.

pretty much sums up my feelings too
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Celtics18 on December 28, 2011, 01:23:33 AM
Great effort by the Cs tonight.  0 and 2, and I couldn't be prouder of our team right now.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Who on December 28, 2011, 04:43:04 AM
Garnett looks noticeably slower this season.

Especially when trying to recover to his man after defending the pick and roll or playing any type of help defense (those multiple effort type plays). Looks like KG is attempting to switch a lot more frequently (with JO) to work around the decline in quickness. Relying on his smarts to get by.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: mgent on December 28, 2011, 09:49:09 AM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?

why wouldnt it? It may have cost us the game or tie

If Ray had turned it over, it would be the main reason we didnt tie or have a chance to win that game...

and since Rondo is the guy, he should take most of the blame
Why would it?  If not for Rondo, we wouldn't have even been in a position to tie the game.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: rayallen1934 on December 28, 2011, 01:44:08 PM
thank you rajon rondo  ::) ::) team fought so hard to cut the lead stupid dumb play.

No need to blame the loss on Rondo.  Rough time to make a mistake, but he deserves a mulligan for how well we played. 

Rondo and Ray were the only reasons the game stayed honest.  Dooling's incredible shooting was the only reason it got close.
7 turnovers total tonight and 12 in the first 2 games. But I'm sure there's no need to blame the losses on this.

He's also got a combined 25 assists and he's pushing the pace at breakneck speed to make up for our lack of shooting/offensive quality.

Rondo hurt us at the very end.  Does that invalidate everything else he did?

why wouldnt it? It may have cost us the game or tie

If Ray had turned it over, it would be the main reason we didnt tie or have a chance to win that game...

and since Rondo is the guy, he should take most of the blame
Why would it?  If not for Rondo, we wouldn't have even been in a position to tie the game.

Thats an excuse for any player.

Rondo is way smarter than that. Hes done that TWICE in a playoff game BACK TO BACK, those full court passes are bad and he does them at the end of games.

We were down one possession with the ball, down 3, riding momentum, Ray on fire , Dooling on fire, Rondo with his great playmaking ability.

But he got careless and wanted to make a huge play.

I rather blame him then him doing that again. A turnover at a big moment in the game is what it is.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: Celtics18 on December 28, 2011, 01:46:52 PM
Garnett looks noticeably slower this season.

Especially when trying to recover to his man after defending the pick and roll or playing any type of help defense (those multiple effort type plays). Looks like KG is attempting to switch a lot more frequently (with JO) to work around the decline in quickness. Relying on his smarts to get by.

I figured KG would look slower this year, but I didn't expect him to look as slow as he has so far.  I'm hoping that he can shake some rust off a long off-season and start moving a little better.
Title: Re: Celtics (0-1) at Heat (1-0) 12/27
Post by: TheReaLPuba on December 28, 2011, 02:36:52 PM
How many cheap techs and blown calls did we see in this game?

No Pierce and some rookie going off?

I'm actually very surprised we were in this game but not surprised that we would come back.

This team just doesn't give up.

And for people who think that PP doesn't make a difference?

Shame on you.

PP is a HOF and the soul of this team.

Just having him on the floor makes everyone's confidence that much higher and PP is easily our best scorer and another great playmaker that every team desperately needs.

What killed us last night was our putrid defense and stupid turnovers and missed free throws.

The Heat are definitely a very good team but they're not 70% shooting good.

We let them get off in transition and we let them get into a good offensive groove.

C's can play so much better and more importantly they can get healthier.

There are no teams that scare me.