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trickybilly:
So many people, myself included are struggling with why we:

a) only had the room exception available when we agreed with Kanter

and,

b) couldn't sign our own free agents using bird rights (MOrris, Theis) to go over the cap, and then get the full mid-level.

Can people have a go at trying to explain this? I think Footey said in the official rumors thread that it makes no sense that capped teams get the full, and teams under the cap only get the smaller room exception.

saltlover:
Simply put, because it’s the rules.  Prior to the room exception, the only sort of mid-level exception was for capped teams.  Teams using cap space went up to the cap limit and could do no more.  The theory is that cap space is already more valuable — you can sign players to higher salaries, you can acquire them with trades, etc.  The various MLEs, room included, are less flexible.  Since cap space teams have more flexibility as is, capped teams needed some way to acquire a free agent for other than the minimum, and thus the MLE was born.  They added the taxpayer version to punish those with incredibly high payrolls, and the room exception to throw a bone to those filling their rosters with max players.

PhoSita:

--- Quote from: trickybilly on July 01, 2019, 07:10:43 PM ---So many people, myself included are struggling with why we:

a) only had the room exception available when we agreed with Kanter

and,

b) couldn't sign our own free agents using bird rights (MOrris, Theis) to go over the cap, and then get the full mid-level.

Can people have a go at trying to explain this? I think Footey said in the official rumors thread that it makes no sense that capped teams get the full, and teams under the cap only get the smaller room exception.

--- End quote ---



If you use cap space to sign a player, the only exception you get to use is the Room Exception.

If you use bird rights to sign your own players and go over the cap, then you get the Full MLE because you didn't use cap "room" to sign anybody.


I think there is theoretically a way the Celts could have pulled off a big complicated S&T so that they didn't use cap room to sign Kemba Walker, but it was too hard to make that happen.

Thus, the Celts used cap space to sign Kemba and are therefore only allowed to use the small Room Exception.


Why does it work that way? Because that's how the rules are set up.

jambr380:
Yeah, I have been complaining about this for years. That is a great explanation SL, but your first sentence says it all. I get that over the cap teams need a way of adding talent, but it seems like the MLE should automatically kick in once a team has spent up to the cap.

Of course cap space is more valuable, but teams with cap space have presumably done a better job managing their the salary than teams who haphazardly spend too much. Of course this isn't how it always works as this one rule proves to be prudent for teams to maintain a salary level somewhere between the cap and tax.

My bigger issue is with teams losing star FAs and not being able to do anything about it. If you trade a player into a team's cap space you get a huge TPE, but if that same player leaves you to go to another team, you get squat. Other leagues give teams compensatory picks; I think teams in the NBA should at least get a FA exception, or something, so that they can remain above the cap if they so choose.

libermaniac:

--- Quote from: saltlover on July 01, 2019, 07:19:47 PM ---Simply put, because it’s the rules.  Prior to the room exception, the only sort of mid-level exception was for capped teams.  Teams using cap space went up to the cap limit and could do no more.  The theory is that cap space is already more valuable — you can sign players to higher salaries, you can acquire them with trades, etc.  The various MLEs, room included, are less flexible.  Since cap space teams have more flexibility as is, capped teams needed some way to acquire a free agent for other than the minimum, and thus the MLE was born.  They added the taxpayer version to punish those with incredibly high payrolls, and the room exception to throw a bone to those filling their rosters with max players.

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Is this going to be on the test?  :o

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