Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[IDreamCeltics]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans. 

And if you think New Orleans wants to pay Gordon Hayward 70 million over the next two years in exchange for trading the best player in the history of their franchise in the middle of his prime I have some real estate in Florida to sell you. 

[RazzelnoDazzel]

I think Tatum + Rozier + Hayward + mem Trumps anything anyone can offer.

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans. 

And if you think New Orleans wants to pay Gordon Hayward 70 million over the next two years in exchange for trading the best player in the history of their franchise in the middle of his prime I have some real estate in Florida to sell you.

I slightly disagree. Take a look at my trade scenario https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=99779.0

[footey]

I don’t think there should be too much angst about losing Smart in a deal. He’s a good player, but we’re not missing him right now.  Jaylen can replicate his defense while adding more scoring.

And he’s 3 years younger.

[Roy H.]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

[RPGenerate]

Really we only need to worry about the Knicks getting the first picks. All of the other basement teams would probably just want to keep Zion instead.

Besides the Knicks, I think we need to be worried about the Wizards, Mavs, TWolves, Lakers, Heat and Sixers getting the #1 pick.  Maybe Chicago since that's AD's hometown. 

Also NOP getting the #1 pick could be problematic.  Instead of trading AD, they might trade it for a 3rd star to get AD to stay or maybe just getting Zion would entice AD to stay.   

Yeesh, talk about being paranoid. Most of those teams have a very minimal chance of getting the pick, while the other wouldn't trade away a possibly Lebron-level prospect for a one year rental of AD.

[smokeablount]

Really we only need to worry about the Knicks getting the first picks. All of the other basement teams would probably just want to keep Zion instead.

Besides the Knicks, I think we need to be worried about the Wizards, Mavs, TWolves, Lakers, Heat and Sixers getting the #1 pick.  Maybe Chicago since that's AD's hometown. 

Also NOP getting the #1 pick could be problematic.  Instead of trading AD, they might trade it for a 3rd star to get AD to stay or maybe just getting Zion would entice AD to stay.   

Yeesh, talk about being paranoid. Most of those teams have a very minimal chance of getting the pick, while the other wouldn't trade away a possibly Lebron-level prospect for a one year rental of AD.

Also, does he mean “we” as in the Celtics or “we” as in the Sixers?

Asking for a friend 

[IDreamCeltics]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

In the last two years Danny has whiffed in trade negotiations for Butler, Kawhi, Paul George, Blake Griffin, and Kristaps Porzingis (and YES Anthony Davis).  I'm pointing out that without Horford there's no deal for Davis that is both appealing from a talent standpoint and workable from a salary matching standpoint for new Orleans.  The truth is the window for an Anthony Davis trade closed at the trade deadline this year because Danny reportedly told New Orleans he wasn't ready to make a deal.   
 
If someone is trolling/baiting you it's Danny Ainge. 

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

In the last two years Danny has whiffed in trade negotiations for Butler, Kawhi, Paul George, Blake Griffin, and Kristaps Porzingis (and YES Anthony Davis).  I'm pointing out that without Horford there's no deal for Davis that is both appealing from a talent standpoint and workable from a salary matching standpoint for new Orleans.  The truth is the window for an Anthony Davis trade closed at the trade deadline this year because Danny reportedly told New Orleans he wasn't ready to make a deal.   
 
If someone is trolling/baiting you it's Danny Ainge.

You do know the only way we could have traded for AD this past trade deadline was if Kyrie was traded right? Can you not understand why Danny wouldn’t want to trade for AD without having Kyrie on the roster?

[RazzelnoDazzel]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

In the last two years Danny has whiffed in trade negotiations for Butler, Kawhi, Paul George, Blake Griffin, and Kristaps Porzingis (and YES Anthony Davis).  I'm pointing out that without Horford there's no deal for Davis that is both appealing from a talent standpoint and workable from a salary matching standpoint for new Orleans.  The truth is the window for an Anthony Davis trade closed at the trade deadline this year because Danny reportedly told New Orleans he wasn't ready to make a deal.   
 
If someone is trolling/baiting you it's Danny Ainge.

And as far as “fit” goes AD Is a far better fit on this roster than any of those other All-stars. Ainge didn’t Wiff he was patient and I feel he will be rewarded for his patience.

[MattyIce]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

yes

[Big333223]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

In the last two years Danny has whiffed in trade negotiations for Butler, Kawhi, Paul George, Blake Griffin, and Kristaps Porzingis (and YES Anthony Davis).  I'm pointing out that without Horford there's no deal for Davis that is both appealing from a talent standpoint and workable from a salary matching standpoint for new Orleans.  The truth is the window for an Anthony Davis trade closed at the trade deadline this year because Danny reportedly told New Orleans he wasn't ready to make a deal.   
 
If someone is trolling/baiting you it's Danny Ainge.

The Celtics couldn't have traded for Davis this season as long as Kyrie was on his current contract and they weren't going to trade their best player for a player who would leave in a season because he doesn't have another all star to play with. So the idea that they "missed their window" makes no sense. There was never any chance that a Davis trade involving the Celtics could've happened this year.

And as Roy already pointed out, what you're describing regarding salary matching is also incorrect. There are a bunch of ways the Celtics can make up the required salary with, arguably, the best possible deal anyone else can offer for Davis.

[tazzmaniac]

Really we only need to worry about the Knicks getting the first picks. All of the other basement teams would probably just want to keep Zion instead.

Besides the Knicks, I think we need to be worried about the Wizards, Mavs, TWolves, Lakers, Heat and Sixers getting the #1 pick.  Maybe Chicago since that's AD's hometown. 

Also NOP getting the #1 pick could be problematic.  Instead of trading AD, they might trade it for a 3rd star to get AD to stay or maybe just getting Zion would entice AD to stay.   

Yeesh, talk about being paranoid. Most of those teams have a very minimal chance of getting the pick, while the other wouldn't trade away a possibly Lebron-level prospect for a one year rental of AD.

The Cavs won the #1 pick from the 8th position (2.8% chance) and 9th position (1.7%).  Acting like those odds don't count is foolish.  Assuming AD would be a 1 year rental is foolish.  Paul George was supposed to be a 1 year rental for OKC.  We'll see what happens with Kawhi. 

[IDreamCeltics]

Sorry peeps, but the Celtics (once again - no surprise) missed their window to trade for an elite star.

Horford's contract has a player option next year.  He's not resigning with the Celtics just to get traded to NO for Anthony Davis. 

There's not really any package the Celtics can put together for Davis without Horford that makes sense on both a salary cap and talent level for New Orleans

Are you trolling / baiting, or are you just ignoring the dozens of posts pointing out that there’s plenty of salary flexibility to make a deal?

In the last two years Danny has whiffed in trade negotiations for Butler, Kawhi, Paul George, Blake Griffin, and Kristaps Porzingis (and YES Anthony Davis).  I'm pointing out that without Horford there's no deal for Davis that is both appealing from a talent standpoint and workable from a salary matching standpoint for new Orleans.  The truth is the window for an Anthony Davis trade closed at the trade deadline this year because Danny reportedly told New Orleans he wasn't ready to make a deal.   
 
If someone is trolling/baiting you it's Danny Ainge.

The Celtics couldn't have traded for Davis this season as long as Kyrie was on his current contract and they weren't going to trade their best player for a player who would leave in a season because he doesn't have another all star to play with. So the idea that they "missed their window" makes no sense. There was never any chance that a Davis trade involving the Celtics could've happened this year.

And as Roy already pointed out, what you're describing regarding salary matching is also incorrect. There are a bunch of ways the Celtics can make up the required salary with, arguably, the best possible deal anyone else can offer for Davis.

I completely disagree.  The part that makes no sense to me is where the team that was 1 quarter away from the NBA finals last year WITHOUT Kyrie Irving couldn't possibly consider trading him to acquire Anthony Davis...

[Roy H.]

I'm pointing out that without Horford there's no deal for Davis that is both appealing from a talent standpoint and workable from a salary matching standpoint for new Orleans.

Right, but that is demonstrably untrue. That’s why I’m wondering why you keep repeating it.