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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: Birdman on November 08, 2018, 11:18:37 AM
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Lets say we get all 4 picks..no way we can keep all 4 unless we get rid of some guys, not enough room on roster..let Morris, Rozier, and others walk after season end is only way...or big trade 😁😁😁
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There aren't many Int'l prospects, unless the C's reach for one (just to stash him), that could be stashed so we could be looking to trade a couple of picks in a package (I see this as a very likely scenario if all 3 other picks convey), traded for future pick(s) or replace some players (Morris, TRoz & end of bench guys).
Edit: I think this is nice problem to have rather than having a real problem.
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There aren't many Int'l prospects, unless the C's reach for one (just to stash him), that could be stashed so we could be looking to trade a couple of picks in a package (I see this as a very likely scenario if all 3 other picks convey), traded for future pick(s) or replace some players (Morris, TRoz & end of bench guys).
I suspect the end result will be a combination of drafting to replace guys that aren't returning and trading multiple picks to move up for a higher pick. Obviously there's a long way to go this season and the trading deadline to see how this is impacted.
Sac pick will end up in the lottery and will likely happen to the Memphis pick. Clips may not convey because they're likely to miss the playoffs. As of right now, C's are looking at getting the 17, 21, 23 and 25 picks. not exactly what everyone was hoping for but I still think Sac ends up in top 5 with Memphis around 10. Clips likely keep it by just missing the playoffs around 13 or 14. C's will be somewhere 24 and higher.
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Nbadraft.net has us picking almost all 4 in a row around pick 19 to 23
Has any team ever picked 3 or 4 in a row?
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Nbadraft.net has us picking almost all 4 in a row around pick 19 to 23
Has any team ever picked 3 or 4 in a row?
couldn't help noticing they also predicted 3 of the top 4 picks are from Duke. I don't think there's been any draft where 3 of the top 4 players taken were from 1 school.
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Nbadraft.net has us picking almost all 4 in a row around pick 19 to 23
Has any team ever picked 3 or 4 in a row?
That would be kind of cool, although I'm assuming that Sacramento and Memphis will regress to the mean.
Mike
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I'd say there's no way Ainge will make all those picks, but I've said that before and been wrong.
For the sake of discussion it would be fun to assume all the picks convey and keep a discussion of who we should pick throughout the season. We would likely have one early, two mid round, and one late first round pick. At this point, I only have a little familiarity with a few of the top guys. Obviously, Zion stands out as we need a big.
I will say I'd love to see them take a chance with one of the mid round picks on Jontay Porter assuming he goes pro. I think he has the size, skill level, and basketball IQ to be an above average NBA player. What held him back last year was his conditioning and lack of muscle. That's all correctable especially considering how young he is. With him missing the season, he will likely be available mid first round.
I'd also like to take a pg or combo guard with a mid or late first, but I have no one in mind at this point.
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Clippers is such a long shot, Boston’s own easily Zizic’d or traded at DL
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Trade all four picks for a top five pick.
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If Phoenix ends up in the top 2 and the Sac pick is around 4-7 I could see a scenario where Ainge tries to package the Sac, Memphis and Clippers pick to trade up and grab Zion Williamson or R. J. Barrett. Phoenix is in desperate need to rebuild around youth.
Zion would be a great addition at PF to replace Morris and Barrett a great replacement for Rozier as he could be the backup SG and have Smart play PG exclusively on the 2nd unit.
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The Clippers pick isn’t conveying, no way they make the playoffs.
SAC will be a top-8 pick, but hopefully closer to 2 than 8.
Doesn’t really matter to me if the Grizz pick conveys or not, as each year it doesn’t there is less protection. I believe it will convey around the 12th pick or so.
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Trade all four picks for a top five pick.
A bunch picks near 20 won’t get you in the top five. Of course, the sac pick on its own could still end up there.
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Lets say we get all 4 picks..no way we can keep all 4 unless we get rid of some guys, not enough room on roster..let Morris, Rozier, and others walk after season end is only way...or big trade 😁😁😁
Why would you suggest letting Morris walk when he probably has been our 2nd best player so far this year and probably the most consistent. I want "Money" aka Morris to stay on this team.
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Lets say we get all 4 picks..no way we can keep all 4 unless we get rid of some guys, not enough room on roster..let Morris, Rozier, and others walk after season end is only way...or big trade 😁😁😁
Why would you suggest letting Morris walk when he probably has been our 2nd best player so far this year and probably the most consistent. I want "Money" aka Morris to stay on this team.
If we can keep Morris for $8-10M annually, I’m with it 100%.
If he’s looking for $12-15M+ per, I don’t know.
And considering Smart basically got that, he may be worth it too.
He’s been great for us, he’s the only one getting the job done off the bench.
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Lets say we get all 4 picks..no way we can keep all 4 unless we get rid of some guys, not enough room on roster..let Morris, Rozier, and others walk after season end is only way...or big trade 😁😁😁
Why would you suggest letting Morris walk when he probably has been our 2nd best player so far this year and probably the most consistent. I want "Money" aka Morris to stay on this team.
Morris has been great so far. He adds a toughness like Smart also. At this point Morris is a solid cog to this team if we are to do anything in the playoffs. He is producing better than most of the starters. I would certainly keep him at Smart type money. We have an issue with the overpay for Haywards contract. I am not sure if he will ever live up to that contract and right now he is a shadow of his former self. I hope that changes as the year progresses but it is not looking good so far.
If we can keep Morris for $8-10M annually, I’m with it 100%.
If he’s looking for $12-15M+ per, I don’t know.
And considering Smart basically got that, he may be worth it too.
He’s been great for us, he’s the only one getting the job done off the bench.
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Lets say we get all 4 picks..no way we can keep all 4 unless we get rid of some guys, not enough room on roster..let Morris, Rozier, and others walk after season end is only way...or big trade 😁😁😁
Why would you suggest letting Morris walk when he probably has been our 2nd best player so far this year and probably the most consistent. I want "Money" aka Morris to stay on this team.
If we can keep Morris for $8-10M annually, I’m with it 100%.
If he’s looking for $12-15M+ per, I don’t know.
And considering Smart basically got that, he may be worth it too.
He’s been great for us, he’s the only one getting the job done off the bench.
Morris wants to, and deserves to, have a starting job. The only negative in his play this year has been the (sometimes very) frustrating turnovers. He wants to get paid as well. I'm sure he's looking something north of what Marcus Smart got from the C's. No way he is back with this team next year.
Edit: We also have players and draft picks to use to replace MM when he bolts. Boston is also a team other veterans will want to come to play for. Some may not be the caliber of MM but some will. MM is just an excellent fit here so I'll be disappointed when he leaves.
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I think Dedric Lawson of Kansas could be a steal with a late round pick if they all convey. Really good size for a forward at 6’9 and 235 pounds. He has the exact same height and weight as Marcus Morris and also has a swagger to him that reminds me of Morris as well. Definitely think he could be a nice replacement if we were to let Morris go in free agency.
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I think Dedric Lawson of Kansas could be a steal with a late round pick if they all convey. Really good size for a forward at 6’9 and 235 pounds. He has the exact same height and weight as Marcus Morris and also has a swagger to him that reminds me of Morris as well. Definitely think he could be a nice replacement if we were to let Morris go in free agency.
There are a lot of guys with the same height and weight as Morris but 90% of them I wouldn't want shooting the ball over Morris and certainly not a rookie that might develop in 3 years.
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Lets say we get all 4 picks..no way we can keep all 4 unless we get rid of some guys, not enough room on roster..let Morris, Rozier, and others walk after season end is only way...or big trade 😁😁😁
Why would you suggest letting Morris walk when he probably has been our 2nd best player so far this year and probably the most consistent. I want "Money" aka Morris to stay on this team.
If we can keep Morris for $8-10M annually, I’m with it 100%.
If he’s looking for $12-15M+ per, I don’t know.
And considering Smart basically got that, he may be worth it too.
He’s been great for us, he’s the only one getting the job done off the bench.
Morris is playing great now, but mostly disappeared during the playoffs after finishing the regular season strong last year. He just seems like a streaky player fast approaching 30. I wouldn’t be opposed to flipping him by the trade deadline, if we can’t re-sign him on a short term reasonable deal.
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Please let's not play the stash game again, not at this point. Put together a trade, or trade up.
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Ainge loves draft picks!! if we get all 4 picks he will draft 4 guards 6-5 and under
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I think Dedric Lawson of Kansas could be a steal with a late round pick if they all convey. Really good size for a forward at 6’9 and 235 pounds. He has the exact same height and weight as Marcus Morris and also has a swagger to him that reminds me of Morris as well. Definitely think he could be a nice replacement if we were to let Morris go in free agency.
There are a lot of guys with the same height and weight as Morris but 90% of them I wouldn't want shooting the ball over Morris and certainly not a rookie that might develop in 3 years.
Relax, I didn’t say he was better than Morris I just said that he reminds me of him and could be a steal in the late first round.
Obviously we’d all like to keep Morris but the reality is that we might not be able too so we have to look at some other options and in my opinion Dedric Lawson could be a decent replacement.
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I think Dedric Lawson of Kansas could be a steal with a late round pick if they all convey. Really good size for a forward at 6’9 and 235 pounds. He has the exact same height and weight as Marcus Morris and also has a swagger to him that reminds me of Morris as well. Definitely think he could be a nice replacement if we were to let Morris go in free agency.
TP for pointing him out. Kansas is playing on ESPN2 tonight.
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I think Dedric Lawson of Kansas could be a steal with a late round pick if they all convey. Really good size for a forward at 6’9 and 235 pounds. He has the exact same height and weight as Marcus Morris and also has a swagger to him that reminds me of Morris as well. Definitely think he could be a nice replacement if we were to let Morris go in free agency.
TP for pointing him out. Kansas is playing on ESPN2 tonight.
Thanks, I’d definitely recommend checking him out. He had 20 points, 14 rebounds, and 6 assists versus a very good Michigan State team last week.
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I like our chances of having 4 pics next year... clippers if healthy will fight for the 8th playoff spot.. memphis if healthy is not a bottom 8 team and the kings eventually will be a top 10 pic.. i think not top 3 anyway..
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Birdman beat you to this thread idea.
https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=98081.0
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Would be good to add a 3 and D guy who is ready. Like an upgrade of semi.
Also a Rozier replacement, and maybe a rebounding big. Remember those?
Shame it's a weak class, could maybe trade picks for future picks. Teams in win-now and bloated payrolls might bite
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A guy who I'd be keen on with one of our first rounders, especially ours, is Brian Bowen. We know Ainge was interested in him last year, but Williams fell unexpectedly so it was irrelevant.
His NCAA ineligibility sucks, but he's playing in the Australian NBL and is doing much better than Terrance Ferguson (OKC) was at the same age. The NBL also isn't a bad league, with numerous Summer League guys playing over here.
He's a good scorer, good nose for the ball and has some good length. Could be useful off the bench
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Would be good to add a 3 and D guy who is ready. Like an upgrade of semi.
Also a Rozier replacement, and maybe a rebounding big. Remember those?
Shame it's a weak class, could maybe trade picks for future picks. Teams in win-now and bloated payrolls might bite
Yeah, this one may be the most important pick, after the top 10 from Sacto.
I'm keeping an eye on Darius Garland from Vandy. He looks good already but waiting for the competition to ramp up.
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Take four centers
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who would have thought that at this point of the season, not only would the C's be eligible to get all 4 picks but that their own pick would be the best one of the bunch? :P
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who would have thought that at this point of the season, not only would the C's be eligible to get all 4 picks but that their own pick would be the best one of the bunch? :P
18, 20, 21, 25. So close to four consecutive picks. Let's go guys, you can do it!
Mike
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who would have thought that at this point of the season, not only would the C's be eligible to get all 4 picks but that their own pick would be the best one of the bunch? :P
Not even the good Lord himself.
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who would have thought that at this point of the season, not only would the C's be eligible to get all 4 picks but that their own pick would be the best one of the bunch? :P
18, 20, 21, 25. So close to four consecutive picks. Let's go guys, you can do it!
Mike
will probably make for an 'active' thread when I put together my annual pick tracker thread later this season.