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Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #285 on: March 06, 2020, 10:26:20 PM »

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Brad's mistake this game is playing Wanamaker instead of Ojeleye.

Really good point. Why would Semi be on the bench over Wanamaker in crunch time? Guaranteed Semi hits at least one of those 3s and actually plays defense. Brad needs to explain some of these lineups...
Semi actually led the team in minutes believe it or not.  probably winded from not building up his stamina due to all those DNPs.   ::)

Interesting I’ll admit I didn’t check the box score. Either way Brad needs to manage the minutes, regardless of injuries, to ensure Wanamaker isn’t out there taking big shots in crunch time. Watching him that final minute was beyond insulting to my eyes.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #286 on: March 06, 2020, 10:26:27 PM »

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Hahahhahahahah great job with the bench Ainge! Have to put buns out there like Wanamaker.  Basically screwed the The 2nd seed and beyond by having a weak inexperienced bench. How many games will it cost this team? How will it show up in the playoffs? Great job Ainge! Keep living off the Garnett trade.

I agree that Ainge shouldve shored up our bench somehow. But to insinuate that he is a bad GM who just got lucky due to the KG trade in 07 is just plain stupid. The mere fact that we are fighting for 2nd seed is an indicator that he isnt a bad GM.

Ainge is a great GM but he needs to get his hands out of his pockets.

And do WHAT exactly? You keep banging that drum that Danny should've done something. But have you got even the slightest example of a scenario that is A) realistic and B) legitimately going to have moved the needle?

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #287 on: March 06, 2020, 10:27:21 PM »

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Brad's mistake this game is playing Wanamaker instead of Ojeleye.

Really good point. Why would Semi be on the bench over Wanamaker in crunch time? Guaranteed Semi hits at least one of those 3s and actually plays defense. Brad needs to explain some of these lineups...
Semi actually led the team in minutes believe it or not.  probably winded from not building up his stamina due to all those DNPs.   ::)

Heck, it doesn't have to be Semi even. Give me Langford over Wanamaker there.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #288 on: March 06, 2020, 10:27:24 PM »

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Get the next one. 

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #289 on: March 06, 2020, 10:27:33 PM »

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This loss is fine. Houston and Brooklyn were brutal, this is fine.

Most concerning thing about this game was how lost TimeLord looked...

I think Williams needs to play with better players so he wont have to do more. He was in there with Wanamaker of all people.
Brad's mistake this game is playing Wanamaker instead of Ojeleye.


Really good point. Why would Semi be on the bench over Wanamaker in crunch time? Guaranteed Semi hits at least one of those 3s and actually plays defense. Brad needs to explain some of these lineups...
Semi actually led the team in minutes believe it or not.  probably winded from not building up his stamina due to all those DNPs.   ::)

I wouldve subbed him in sometime in the last 2 minutes. Heck Id try Edwards over him.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #290 on: March 06, 2020, 10:27:43 PM »

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COULD USE SOME SHOOTERS>>>>>

Some players.... The end of the bench players are important. They can't all be projects.

The issue is that our entire bench is full of not only rookies, but players who don't belong on an NBA court. Our offense is too inconsistent
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Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #291 on: March 06, 2020, 10:28:43 PM »

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Hahahhahahahah great job with the bench Ainge! Have to put buns out there like Wanamaker.  Basically screwed the The 2nd seed and beyond by having a weak inexperienced bench. How many games will it cost this team? How will it show up in the playoffs? Great job Ainge! Keep living off the Garnett trade.

I agree that Ainge shouldve shored up our bench somehow. But to insinuate that he is a bad GM who just got lucky due to the KG trade in 07 is just plain stupid. The mere fact that we are fighting for 2nd seed is an indicator that he isnt a bad GM.

Ainge is a great GM but he needs to get his hands out of his pockets.

And do WHAT exactly? You keep banging that drum that Danny should've done something. But have you got even the slightest example of a scenario that is A) realistic and B) legitimately going to have moved the needle?

To quote Stephen A, "when you give up nothing, you get something!". At this point, any addition to our bench is a plus.
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Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #292 on: March 06, 2020, 10:29:27 PM »

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Hahahhahahahah great job with the bench Ainge! Have to put buns out there like Wanamaker.  Basically screwed the The 2nd seed and beyond by having a weak inexperienced bench. How many games will it cost this team? How will it show up in the playoffs? Great job Ainge! Keep living off the Garnett trade.

I agree that Ainge shouldve shored up our bench somehow. But to insinuate that he is a bad GM who just got lucky due to the KG trade in 07 is just plain stupid. The mere fact that we are fighting for 2nd seed is an indicator that he isnt a bad GM.

Ainge is a great GM but he needs to get his hands out of his pockets.

My take on this is the team is probably super tight and close to one another to the point that Danny is scared to cut one player for fear of disrupting the team’s chemistry. He doesn’t want a repeat of the Perk trade all over again, specially if it involves getting someone who really isn’t a game changer.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #293 on: March 06, 2020, 10:29:36 PM »

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I just find it absurd that Ainge doesn’t think a bench player was necessary for this team. It’s like after having too many guys last year he got gun shy and now has too few this year.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #294 on: March 06, 2020, 10:30:07 PM »

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This loss is fine. Houston and Brooklyn were brutal, this is fine.

Most concerning thing about this game was how lost TimeLord looked...

I think Williams needs to play with better players so he wont have to do more. He was in there with Wanamaker of all people.
Brad's mistake this game is playing Wanamaker instead of Ojeleye.


Really good point. Why would Semi be on the bench over Wanamaker in crunch time? Guaranteed Semi hits at least one of those 3s and actually plays defense. Brad needs to explain some of these lineups...
Semi actually led the team in minutes believe it or not.  probably winded from not building up his stamina due to all those DNPs.   ::)

I wouldve subbed him in sometime in the last 2 minutes. Heck Id try Edwards over him.
I'm not saying Semi was a bad suggestion, just that with all the minutes he played, he may have been gassed.  but, considering what a mess Wanamaker was, a tired Semi would have been an improvement

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #295 on: March 06, 2020, 10:30:38 PM »

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Hahahhahahahah great job with the bench Ainge! Have to put buns out there like Wanamaker.  Basically screwed the The 2nd seed and beyond by having a weak inexperienced bench. How many games will it cost this team? How will it show up in the playoffs? Great job Ainge! Keep living off the Garnett trade.

I agree that Ainge shouldve shored up our bench somehow. But to insinuate that he is a bad GM who just got lucky due to the KG trade in 07 is just plain stupid. The mere fact that we are fighting for 2nd seed is an indicator that he isnt a bad GM.

Ainge is a great GM but he needs to get his hands out of his pockets.

And do WHAT exactly? You keep banging that drum that Danny should've done something. But have you got even the slightest example of a scenario that is A) realistic and B) legitimately going to have moved the needle?
At this point, any addition to our bench is a plus.

No, it isn't.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #296 on: March 06, 2020, 10:31:19 PM »

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YA! Smart got one,  9-23 with one assist...
not a good stat line for a Smart game -- 23 shots and only 1 assist.

not a shocker but every starter a +.  every bench player a -.


Oh wow, I wish you hadn't have brought that up lol This is insane:

Celtics starters (minus Semi at + 4) - all + 10 or higher

Jazz starters (minus Conley at + 6) - all -17 or lower

Celtics bench (minus Green with a - 4) - all - 11 or lower with Wanamaker swamping everyone with a - 25

Jazz bench - all + 22 (!!) or higher

Danny really has failed us by not upgrading this bench either with a buyout or at the deadline. I think he sometimes gets too attached to some of these younger prospects.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #297 on: March 06, 2020, 10:32:19 PM »

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Hahahhahahahah great job with the bench Ainge! Have to put buns out there like Wanamaker.  Basically screwed the The 2nd seed and beyond by having a weak inexperienced bench. How many games will it cost this team? How will it show up in the playoffs? Great job Ainge! Keep living off the Garnett trade.

I agree that Ainge shouldve shored up our bench somehow. But to insinuate that he is a bad GM who just got lucky due to the KG trade in 07 is just plain stupid. The mere fact that we are fighting for 2nd seed is an indicator that he isnt a bad GM.

Ainge is a great GM but he needs to get his hands out of his pockets.

And do WHAT exactly? You keep banging that drum that Danny should've done something. But have you got even the slightest example of a scenario that is A) realistic and B) legitimately going to have moved the needle?

Truth. 

I know people want to win RIGHT NOW, but sometimes acceptable deals just aren't there to be made.  Given what we know about Bertans at this year's trade deadline, the pieces that we wanted to add just weren't available at a reasonable price.

It is what it is.

Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #298 on: March 06, 2020, 10:32:45 PM »

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Hahahhahahahah great job with the bench Ainge! Have to put buns out there like Wanamaker.  Basically screwed the The 2nd seed and beyond by having a weak inexperienced bench. How many games will it cost this team? How will it show up in the playoffs? Great job Ainge! Keep living off the Garnett trade.

I agree that Ainge shouldve shored up our bench somehow. But to insinuate that he is a bad GM who just got lucky due to the KG trade in 07 is just plain stupid. The mere fact that we are fighting for 2nd seed is an indicator that he isnt a bad GM.

Ainge is a great GM but he needs to get his hands out of his pockets.

And do WHAT exactly? You keep banging that drum that Danny should've done something. But have you got even the slightest example of a scenario that is A) realistic and B) legitimately going to have moved the needle?
At this point, any addition to our bench is a plus.

No, it isn't.

Our bench couldn't possibly get any worse with losing one of those guys
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Re: Jazz (39-22) at Celtics (42-19) Game #62 3/6/20
« Reply #299 on: March 06, 2020, 10:33:43 PM »

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YA! Smart got one,  9-23 with one assist...
not a good stat line for a Smart game -- 23 shots and only 1 assist.

not a shocker but every starter a +.  every bench player a -.


Oh wow, I wish you hadn't have brought that up lol This is insane:

Celtics starters (minus Semi at + 4) - all + 10 or higher

Jazz starters (minus Conley at + 6) - all -17 or lower

Celtics bench (minus Green with a - 4) - all - 11 or lower with Wanamaker swamping everyone with a - 25

Jazz bench - all + 22 (!!) or higher

Danny really has failed us by not upgrading this bench either with a buyout or at the deadline. I think he sometimes gets too attached to some of these younger prospects.

It's a "to do" for sure. But there was noting, not even rumours with any real legitimacy to them, that there were any needle shifting deals that were even close to achievable, before the deadline. The off season however will be a different story.