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Order for the 2012-13 Rookie Draft, to be held on Thursday, September 6, 2012, at noon EST/9 AM PST:
1. Gomesfan Anthony Davis
2. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Toine’s Boys) Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Birdman (via Utah Flash via Toine’s Boys via Make Me Some Bacon) Damian Lillard
4. Boxer Rebellion (via Juggernauts) Bradley Beal
5. Toine's Boys (via Rusted Rims) Harrison Barnes
6. Rubio and Friends Dion Waiters^^
7. Y’all Hate (via Lucky17) Thomas Robinson
8. LarryBird17 Terrence Ross^^
9. Birdman Austin Rivers
10. Designated Drinkers Andre Drummond
11. Make Me Some Bacon (via Rusted Rims via Webskins) Meyers Leonard
12. Rusted Rims (via Gainesville Celtics) Jeremy Lamb
13. Juggernauts (via Utah Flash) Kendall Marshall^^
14. Kwhit10 John Henson
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Designated Drinkers) Maurice Harkless^^
16. Kwhit10 (via Password is Taco) Royce White
17. Toine’s Boys (via Harden’s Homeboys) Jared Sullinger
18. Make Me Some Bacon (via Boxer Rebellion) Tyler Zeller^^
19. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Y’all Hate) Andrew Nicholson
20. Make Me Some Bacon (via Rusted Rims via Draft Dodgers) Fab Melo
| 21. Birdman (via Password is Taco via Kwhit10 via Toine’s Boys) Terrence Jones
22. Gainesville Celtics (via Make Me Some Bacon) Perry Jones III
23. Password is Taco (via Birdman via Juggernauts) John Jenkins
24. Gomesfan Evan Fournier
25. Password is Taco (via Kwhit10 via Rusted Rims) Marquis Teague
26. Toine's Boys (via Rubio and Friends) Tony Wroten, Jr.
27. Lucky17 Draymond Green
28. LarryBird17 Jared Cunningham
29. Password is Taco (via Birdman) Jae Crowder
30. Gainesville Celtics (via Toine's Boys via blake) Will Barton
31. Utah Flash (via Make Me Some Bacon via Webskins) Kim English
32. Make Me Some Bacon (via Gainesville Celtics) Miles Plumlee^^
33. Designated Drinkers (via Utah Flash) Arnett Moultrie^^
34. Rusted Rims (via Kwhit10) Festus Ezeli
35. Rubio and Friends (via Toine's Boys via KWhit10 via Designated Drinkers) Tyshawn Taylor
36. Password is Taco Doron Lamb
37. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Utah Flash via Y’all Hate) Quincy Miller
38. DraftDodgers Scott Machado
39. Utah Flash (via Gainesville Celtics via Harden’s Homeboys) Kyle O'Quinn
40. Gomesfan (via Boxer Rebellion) Jeffery Taylor^^
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^^ missed/assigned pick
Each of you will have 5-10 minutes to post your pick in this thread. The time listed next to each pick is the time the pick is due. Any GM who fails to post a selection by the deadline and who has not sent me a sufficient list of preferences will be assigned the best available player based on the results of the actual 2012 NBA draft (results taken from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_Draft).
[Example: the team with the #8 pick fails to make a selection by the deadline, and both Terrance Ross and Dion Waiters are available. While Ross was picked #8 in the actual draft, Waiters was picked at #4, so he would be the default selection.]
Carrying over from last year, the lottery now includes the bottom 12 teams. Each of these teams will have the chance to move into the top 3 of the draft, based on the chances of the corresponding NBA teams. Also, league winner automatically gets #20 pick in the draft, regardless of finish, and league runner-up gets the #19.
Items for discussion this year:
1. number of league votes required for change to league rules
2. number of league votes required to overturn/veto trades
3. draft and stash provision (dead)
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Before people get worked up about this not being current, I know. I'll update the order to reflect the trades from this week, which includes the #3 pick, among others.
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Gomesfan is on the clock
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Let's give the commish a round of applause (and some Tommy Points) for fastest draft assembly I've ever seen.
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Let's give the commish a round of applause (and some Tommy Points) for fastest draft assembly I've ever seen.
certainly, I'm very impressed!
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Anthony Davis
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And we're off. TP to Gomesfan.
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Rusted Rims with the first of 5(!) draft picks?
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Let's give the commish a round of applause (and some Tommy Points) for fastest draft assembly I've ever seen.
Had a Word doc prepped yesterday, but forgot to move it from my work comp, or this would have been posted last night.
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FWF and Birdman have sent me lists for the next two picks.
With the #2 pick, Rusted Rims select Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.
With the #3 pick, Birdman selects Damian Lillard.
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FWF and Birdman have sent me lists for the next two picks.
With the #2 pick, Rusted Rims select Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.
With the #3 pick, Birdman selects Damian Lillard.
Boxer Rebellion is up next with the 4th pick
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So this year my bet is on JGod at #6 to be the first to miss his pick. Although he's a reliable guy, just a hunch. Other likely suspect - LB17, BFM and Blake.
Is anybody yet to confirm, Lucky? I thought BareFacedMonk would be back, we'd exchanged emails last month, but didn't get a response to my last check in.
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FWF and Birdman have sent me lists for the next two picks.
With the #2 pick, Rusted Rims select Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.
With the #3 pick, Birdman selects [b]Damian Lillard[/b].
Good idea to follow the Celticsblog draft convention of making picks in red for GMs swooping in during a break to scan the picks and make theirs.
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So this year my bet is on JGod at #6 to be the first to miss his pick. Although he's a reliable guy, just a hunch. Other likely suspect - LB17, BFM and Blake.
Is anybody yet to confirm, Lucky? I thought BareFacedMonk would be back, we'd exchanged emails last month, but didn't get a response to my last check in.
blake is around today, but I haven't heard from BFM for a long while
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Boxer Rebellion will select Bradley Beal
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FWF and Birdman have sent me lists for the next two picks.
With the #2 pick, Rusted Rims select Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.
With the #3 pick, Birdman selects Damian Lillard.
I like the upside of the Lillard pick a lot, was wondering where he'd go. Strong start so far.
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Beal was #2 on our list so we are extremely happy to have landed him at #4.
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Toine's Boys select: Harrison Barnes
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So this year my bet is on JGod at #6 to be the first to miss his pick. Although he's a reliable guy, just a hunch. Other likely suspect - LB17, BFM and Blake.
Is anybody yet to confirm, Lucky? I thought BareFacedMonk would be back, we'd exchanged emails last month, but didn't get a response to my last check in.
Have not heard from BFM. Or LB17. Blake did reply to my PM, though. jgod also replied.
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So this year my bet is on JGod at #6 to be the first to miss his pick. Although he's a reliable guy, just a hunch. Other likely suspect - LB17, BFM and Blake.
Is anybody yet to confirm, Lucky? I thought BareFacedMonk would be back, we'd exchanged emails last month, but didn't get a response to my last check in.
Have not heard from BFM. Or LB17. Blake did reply to my PM, though. jgod also replied.
18-19 out of 20 isn't too shabby.
I also emailed JGod just now - probably spoiled my own prediction.
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Still interested in moving down if anyone is itching to move up...
["down" as in "back"]
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Looks like there is still a chance for TWW's prediction to come true
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Looks like there is still a chance for TWW's prediction to come true.
Never bet against me.
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you betcha TWWW
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jgod's pick is due. Highest available pick (HAP) at #6 is Dion Waiters (4th).
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Recap so far:
1. Gomesfan Anthony Davis
2. Rusted Rims Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3. Birdman Damian Lillard
4. Boxer Rebellion Bradley Beal
5. Toine's Boys Harrison Barnes
6. Rubio and Friends Dion Waiters
7. Y’all Hate (via Lucky17) 1:10
8. LarryBird17 1:20
9. Birdman 1:30
10. Designated Drinkers 1:40
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jgod's pick is due. Highest available pick (HAP) at #6 is Dion Waiters (4th).
another W for TWW!
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Ya'll Hate: Thomas Robinson
Thanks for the offers people made...
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Was about to assign T-Rob to you, YH. Thanks for making the selection.
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Ya'll Hate: Thomas Robinson
Thanks for the offers people made...
nice value at 7 YH
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Im here folks!! Just got off of work. Thanks Lucky for picking lillard for me.
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Checking in too. Glad to have MKG - I love the guy, my only concern is he might not be as good in this format as in the actual league. I was a bit torn about taking Beal or Lillard instead for this reason.
But MKG can contribute in every category and helps strengthen my team at the wing.
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Was about to assign T-Rob to you, YH. Thanks for making the selection.
yea sorry - was just looking over some last minute trade offers and lost track.
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Rusted Rims are interested in moving up from the 34. Players available for a move up include Mike Dunleavy, Ty Thomas, Corey Brewer, Josh Harrellson, and the #37 (in addition to the 34). The bigger the move the better the player I'll be willing to give.
Hit me up and let me know - I'll be around for about the next 2 hours.
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LarryBird 17's pick is due. HAP at #8 is Terrence Ross (8th).
Birdman is next.
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Okay, I was torn between 3 players..so im going to have 2 rookies in the backcourt
Birdman selects Austin Rivers PG-Duke
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no DDs in the house, as BFM was banned from celticsblog last year
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no DDs in the house, as BFM was banned from celticsblog last year
Yep. Waiting for an 11th-hour email from him, but it's likely he'll get HAP.
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Got 2 rookie PG's in Damian Lillard and Austin Rivers. Both should do good (i hope). I wanted Andre Drummond but i couldnt pass on Rivers right now. John Henson was the other player i was looking at
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Okay, I was torn between 3 players..so im going to have 2 rookies in the backcourt
Birdman selects Austin Rivers PG-Duke
I loved the Lillard pick but I've got low expectations for Rivers in the short term.
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So this year my bet is on JGod at #6 to be the first to miss his pick. Although he's a reliable guy, just a hunch. Other likely suspect - LB17, BFM and Blake.
Is anybody yet to confirm, Lucky? I thought BareFacedMonk would be back, we'd exchanged emails last month, but didn't get a response to my last check in.
Nice hunch call. First time i've missed a pick for anything associated w/ CB. Woops.
Sorry guys, got caught up on a new assignment at work and this completely slipped my mind. My blunder.
I'm ok with Waiters at 6 despite his really poor showing in Vegas. Very excited to watch Waiters work with Irving.
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Got 2 rookie PG's in Damian Lillard and Austin Rivers. Both should do good (i hope). I wanted <MR. OUTKAST> but i couldnt pass on Rivers right now. <MISTER MUPPET> was the other player i was looking at
no undrafted players names please.... some of us are hoping for folks to slide or get picked that push other players down.
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I've updated the google doc rosters to reflect trades this week, plus rookie selections as I go.
If picks have been involved with trades, I've only bothered to note 2013 picks changing hands. I figure there's no need to move today's picks around, when the big board is up to date.
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Got 2 rookie PG's in Damian Lillard and Austin Rivers. Both should do good (i hope). I wanted <MR. OUTKAST> but i couldnt pass on Rivers right now. <MISTER MUPPET> was the other player i was looking at
no undrafted players names please.... some of us are hoping for folks to slide or get picked that push other players down.
Oops..sorry
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Anyone interested in the #21 and #25 pick to move down?
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Designated Drinkers pick is due. HAP at #10 is Andre Drummond (9th).
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got 23rd and 29th pick still if anyone is interested..i also throw in a player
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Here's our roster:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Danilo Gallinari
Jared Dudley
Kevin Garnett
Carlos Boozer
Ryan Anderson
Dwight Howard
Jrue Holiday
Tony Allen
Lamar Odom
Carlos Delfino
Amare Stoudemire
Bradley Beal
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Bojan Bogdanovic
2013 #1, 2013 #2
We're interested in discussing anybody and everybody.
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Re: trades, please remember that I need confirmation PMs from both GMs directly. Forwarded PMs will not suffice.
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I'd be willing to move back from #16 if anyone is interested. Not looking to drop out of the top 30 unless a current player is involved. Let me know!
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celtsrp33 at #11? Checking to make sure I didn't get a list from him.
I see no list, so it's HAP for Make Me Some Bacon at #11: Meyers Leonard (11th).
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celtsrp33 at #11? Checking to make sure I didn't get a list from him.
I see no list, so it's HAP for Make Me Some Bacon at #11: Meyers Leonard (11th).
Surprise he is not here..he always at the draft and active
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*fist pump*
I had a backup I was happy with, but I was worried I'd miss out on this guy when I traded the 11.
Wanted a shooter/scorer and this guy's #2 behind Beal for me. Rusted Rims select Jeremy Lamb
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I need to step away for a few moments for a brief meeting.
I'm turning the MCing duties over to The Walker Wiggle, who's graciously accepted Adam Silver duties for today.
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no sign of the Juggernauts today so far
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Good afternoon, everyone. Let's hurry this up so that I can assign Champkind Tomislav Zubcic before Lucky gets back.
Here's where we stand.
12. Rusted Rims (via Gainesville Celtics) Jeremy Lamb
13. Juggernauts (via Utah Flash) 2:10
14. Kwhit10 2:20
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Designated Drinkers) 2:30
16. Password is Taco 2:40
17. Toine’s Boys (via Harden’s Homeboys) 2:50
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Great I think the HPA is going to possibly screw me out of who I want... Also was hoping Lamb would fall.
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Good afternoon, everyone. Let's hurry this up so that I can assign Champkind Tomislav Zubcic before Lucky gets back.
Here's where we stand.
12. Rusted Rims (via Gainesville Celtics) Jeremy Lamb
13. Juggernauts (via Utah Flash) 2:10
14. Kwhit10 2:20
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Designated Drinkers) 2:30
16. Password is Taco 2:40
17. Toine’s Boys (via Harden’s Homeboys) 2:50
ZUBCIC IS THE FUTURE!
DO IT, YOU WON'T!
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The Juggernauts have officially missed the 13th pick. They are awarded BPA Kendall Marshall.
(I don't think HAP is going to catch on, sorry Lucky.)
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I need to step away for a few moments for a brief meeting.
I'm turning the MCing duties over to The Walker Wiggle, who's graciously accepted Adam Silver duties for today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmlWpmg_OVQ
is the wiggle wearing a purple tie too?
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The Juggernauts have officially missed the 13th pick. They are awarded BPA Kendall Marshall.
(I don't think HAP is going to catch on, sorry Lucky.)
yea, I'm not too high on HPA either
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12. Rusted Rims (via Gainesville Celtics) Jeremy Lamb
13. Juggernauts (via Utah Flash) Kendall Marshall
14. Kwhit10 2:20
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Designated Drinkers) 2:30
16. Password is Taco 2:40
17. Toine’s Boys (via Harden’s Homeboys) 2:50
18. Make Me Some Bacon (via Boxer Rebellion) 3:00
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The Juggernauts have officially missed the 13th pick. They are awarded BPA Kendall Marshall.
(I don't think HAP is going to catch on, sorry Lucky.)
This makes me sad. Oh well I guess I'll have to pick someone else.
With the 14th pick Kwhit10 selects John Henson
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The Juggernauts have officially missed the 13th pick. They are awarded BPA Kendall Marshall.
(I don't think HAP is going to catch on, sorry Lucky.)
yea, I'm not too high on HPA either
Yeah, BPA is catchier, but it's a little subjective-sounding. The HP may not be the BP.
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I'm interested in picking up a pick from about 15-21.
would consider moving:
John Salmons
Ronnie Brewer
Marreese Speights
Kosta Koufos
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
Shelden Williams
Nikola Mrotic
Donald Sloan
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The Juggernauts have officially missed the 13th pick. They are awarded BPA Kendall Marshall.
(I don't think HAP is going to catch on, sorry Lucky.)
yea, I'm not too high on HPA either
Yeah, BPA is catchier, but it's a little subjective-sounding. The HP may not be the BP.
Hence, my use of HAP.
No one can convince me that Chukwudiebere Maduabum (taken 56th overall last year) is "better" than Isaiah Thomas (60th).
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Trade for the league to consider while we wait:
Champkind sends #16
Kwhit10 sends #21 and #25
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Trade for the league to consider while we wait:
Champkind sends #16
Kwhit10 sends #21 and #25
very fair trade
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Good afternoon, everyone. Let's hurry this up so that I can assign Champkind Tomislav Zubcic before Lucky gets back.
ZUBCIC IS THE FUTURE!
DO IT, YOU WON'T!
You came this close. Whatever, I'm out of here.
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The Rims remain interested in trading up from 34. Package offered would be the 34 and a player/pick from this group: Mike Dunleavy, Ty Thomas, Corey Brewer, Josh Harrellson, the 37 pick.
A higher move up gets a better package. Let me know...
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celtsrp33 is up again at #15. HAP (TM pending) is Maurice Harkless (15th).
I'd like to hear more feedback about the pending trade involving the 16th before the pick is made, if that's alright. Any problems?
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celtsrp33 is up again at #15. HAP (TM pending) is Maurice Harkless (15th).
I'd like to hear more feedback about the pending trade involving the 16th before the pick is made, if that's alright. Any problems?
None. Certainly not ridiculously imbalanced or anything. Straightforward and more than fair enough.
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celtsrp33 is up again at #15. HAP (TM pending) is Maurice Harkless (15th).
I'd like to hear more feedback about the pending trade involving the 16th before the pick is made, if that's alright. Any problems?
no problem..good trade
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Another trade to announce:
Toine's Boy's trade Larry Sanders
blake trades #30 pick
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Fair deal. I'd rather have the #16 but I know that Champ knows college ball, so I'm not too worried about him.
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Another trade to announce:
Toine's Boy's trade Larry Sanders
blake trades #30 pick
that makes 4 picks in the draft for Toine's Boys!
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the trade is fine
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celtsrp33 is up again at #15. HAP (TM pending) is Maurice Harkless (15th).
I'd like to hear more feedback about the pending trade involving the 16th before the pick is made, if that's alright. Any problems?
HPA both times taken the guy right in front of me...
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KWhit, go ahead and make your pick at #16.
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with the #16 pick Kwhit10 selects Royce White
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with the 17th pick, Toine's Boys are ecstatic to select: Jared Sullinger
If I knew mid-season last year that I would land both Barnes and Sullinger in the draft I would have been perfectly happy.
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This could be a disastrous draft for Bacon. I'm going to try another email.
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celtsrp33 is up again at #15. HAP (TM pending) is Maurice Harkless (15th).
I'd like to hear more feedback about the pending trade involving the 16th before the pick is made, if that's alright. Any problems?
Based upon past precedent, I demand a veto. Any trade where one team could get better and another team could get worse should be struck down. 8)
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with the 17th pick, Toine's Boys are ecstatic to select: Jared Sullinger
If I knew mid-season last year that I would land both Barnes and Sullinger in the draft I would have been perfectly happy.
Yeah, that's some pretty nice potential.
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So this year my bet is on JGod at #6 to be the first to miss his pick. Although he's a reliable guy, just a hunch. Other likely suspect - LB17, BFM and Blake.
Is anybody yet to confirm, Lucky? I thought BareFacedMonk would be back, we'd exchanged emails last month, but didn't get a response to my last check in.
Like herpes, I'm always lurking and when you least expect it...
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looking to package #30 and 35 to move up a bit. Anyone interested, shoot me an offer. I can potentially add Reggie Williams or JJJ depending on how good a pick it is.
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This could be a disastrous draft for Bacon. I'm going to try another email.
Well, he hasn't run off the road yet even though no one is at the wheel. And I think he's looking at fairly safe assigned picks at 18 and 20.
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This could be a disastrous draft for Bacon. I'm going to try another email.
Well, he hasn't run off the road yet even though no one is at the wheel. And I think he's looking at fairly safe assigned picks at 18 and 20.
sometimes the "HAP" can save GMs from themselves. No offense to Bacon or anyone, I'm just saying.
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Only trouble with landing both Leonard and Harkless is both are raw, high-risk reward pick ups.
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I see Bacon is here. He may need a minute to get up to speed.
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Hey Guys! I'm here! Have been a little out of the loop here lately. Very sorry - like the Harkless pick though :)
Gimme a few mins to look over the available players, please. I will submit my next pick (if it is me that is up) shortly. Just gotta read thru the thread quickly and figure out what I need. Thanks for your patience guys. [dang]! Can't believe I totally missed this :(
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Hey Guys! I'm here! Have been a little out of the loop here lately. Very sorry - like the Harkless pick though :)
Gimme a few mins to look over the available players, please. I will submit my next pick (if it is me that is up) shortly. Just gotta read thru the thread quickly and figure out what I need. Thanks for your patience guys. [dang]! Can't believe I totally missed this :(
welcome Bacon! take your time as far as I'm concerned.
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Got no problem waiting a bit for Bacon, but I'd like my deadline pushed back by however many minutes he uses.
I'll try to be fast anyway though, got a good idea which 2 players I'm considering.
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I think I should auto assign Bacon the HAP at #18, and let FWF make his selection.
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Hope he looks at his messages first, lol
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I think I should auto assign Bacon the HAP at #18, and let FWF make his selection.
Up to you - I have no objection to waiting a bit, just want to make sure I don't run out of time. I will try and be quick so we don't have a ripple effect.
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I think I should auto assign Bacon the HAP at #18, and let FWF make his selection.
probably the best thing to do for precedent sake ---
or since he's here and said he'd pick, just let FWF pick then MMSB can have essentially #19 & 20
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(for now or the future....)
if i was here in the thread but, say, got a call i'd rather pick a spot lower than have a guy assigned to me I may or may not want
(though now i don't see him in the thread (how reliable is that?)
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No, I almost stepped in and autoselected for YH at #7, and he was here.
For Bacon, HAP at #18 is Tyler Zeller (17th). Hopefully, Bacon can make his own selection at #20.
FWF, your pick is up. I'll give you a couple extra minutes.
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No, I almost stepped in and autoselected for YH at #7, and he was here.
For Bacon, HAP at #18 is Tyler Zeller (17th).
FWF, your pick is up. I'll give you a couple extra minutes.
The commish laying down the law. Fair call, as it would set a precedence.
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I am OK with that. Sorry about missing out here, guys. I have been really busy with my business and daughter and ill father. I'll take whatever you give me. My H2H team can't get much worse than we were last year :)
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Rims take Andrew Nicholson.
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I am OK with that. Sorry about missing out here, guys. I have been really busy with my business and daughter and ill father. I'll take whatever you give me. My H2H team can't get much worse than we were last year :)
Shoot me a quick list for your next pick(s), if you can, Bacon. Doesn't need to be pretty, just throw some names at me.
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I am OK with that. Sorry about missing out here, guys. I have been really busy with my business and daughter and ill father. I'll take whatever you give me. My H2H team can't get much worse than we were last year :)
positive ubuntu thoughts to you and your fam...
you got the pick after FWF's though...so stay tuned :)
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check ur messages also MMSB..
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OK...I believe that's me again....
I'll take Fab Melo :)
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Listening to offers for pick 26 if any of yallz are interested.
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The following players continue to be available for a pick (there are two guys I am targeting at this point...)
John Salmons
Kosta Koufos
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
Shelden Williams
Nikola Mrotic
Donald Sloan
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OK...I believe that's me again....
I'll take Fab Melo :)
Thanks, Bacon. You've got a 2nd rounder coming up in a while.
2nd round begins now, and there are only 5 minutes between picks, so trade talks need to be resolved quickly, or you may want to pick on behalf of your trade partner and then make the deal afterwards.
Again, I need confirmation from both GMs.
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#22 is in play if you're guy is still there PM me
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#21 is on the move...but I'm also checking the forum clock for backup here.
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Terrance Jones...but he's on the move.
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Because I've received PMs asking, I'll clarify:
The pool of eligible players for this draft is restricted to those who declared for the 2012 NBA draft. Beyond the 60 players taken, this also includes undrafted rookies. An international rookie who declared for an earlier draft is not eligible.
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is Champkind Password is Taco?
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Trade:
Password is Taco sends Terrence Jones
Birdman sends #23 and #29
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is Champkind Password is Taco?
That's not only me, but also my password.
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is Champkind Password is Taco?
That's not only me, but also my password.
My wife picked the same name in our football league. Love that show.
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21. Password is Taco (via Kwhit10 via Toine’s Boys) Terrence Jones
22. Gainesville Celtics (via Make Me Some Bacon) 3:30
23. Birdman (via Juggernauts) 3:35
24. Gomesfan 3:40
25. Password is Taco (via Kwhit10 via Rusted Rims) 3:45
26. Rubio and Friends 3:50
27. Lucky17 3:55
28. LarryBird17 4:00
29. Birdman 4:05
30. blake 4:10
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Trade:
Password is Taco sends Terrence Jones
Birdman sends #23 and #29
Good value for Champ. But at some point adding additional 2nd round picks starts offering diminishing returns.
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Because I've received PMs asking, I'll clarify:
The pool of eligible players for this draft is restricted to those who declared for the 2012 NBA draft. Beyond the 60 players taken, this also includes undrafted rookies. An international rookie who declared for an earlier draft is not eligible.
What if a guy never declared for a draft, but became a free agent due to age? I assume from your first sentence that they're not eligible.
(Here's looking at you, Teletovic.)
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Trade:
Password is Taco sends Terrence Jones
Birdman sends #23 and #29
Thanks for the trade..i really nly wanted Jones at this point and probably wouldnt had any room on my roster for that 29t pick
Damain Lillard
Austin Rivers
Terrence Jones
Not a bad draft
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Perry Jones III
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Because I've received PMs asking, I'll clarify:
The pool of eligible players for this draft is restricted to those who declared for the 2012 NBA draft. Beyond the 60 players taken, this also includes undrafted rookies. An international rookie who declared for an earlier draft is not eligible.
What if a guy never declared for a draft, but became a free agent due to age? I assume from your first sentence that they're not eligible.
(Here's looking at you, Teletovic.)
Declared for the 2007 draft, according to Wikipedia.
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Trade to announce:
Rubio and Friends sends #26
Toine's Boys sends Jimmy Butler and #35
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Perry Jones III
I selected him b/c he was #16 on my predraft board and didn't want to risk the BPA/HAP/PHA....
that said there are 2-4 guys i'm interested in so if you wanted PJIII and have a pre-30th pick, he could be availablle...
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Ooooh. Jones was a good pick.
I am contractually obligated to take John Jenkins. He was the guy I probably would have taken at 16 anyway, due to my rampant homerism. Also, rather than trading away any of my excess picks to The Walker Wiggle, I will instead be donating them to Mitt Romney's Yachting Fund in his name.
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Ooooh. Jones was a good pick.
I am contractually obligated to take John Jenkins. He was the guy I probably would have taken at 16 anyway, due to my rampant homerism. Also, rather than trading away any of my excess picks to The Walker Wiggle, I will instead be donating them to Mitt Romney's Yachting Fund in his name.
what pick is this? i had Birdman up next but maybe you traded picks....
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Ooooh. Jones was a good pick.
I am contractually obligated to take John Jenkins. He was the guy I probably would have taken at 16 anyway, due to my rampant homerism. Also, rather than trading away any of my excess picks to The Walker Wiggle, I will instead be donating them to Mitt Romney's Yachting Fund in his name.
what pick is this? i had Birdman up next but maybe you traded picks....
23rd. He traded it to me (and the 29th) for the 21st.
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I actually had a "and anyway John Jenkins at 16 would've been a reach" line ready to post. But I didn't want GC to scream, "No Names!" at me.
Could get some minutes in ATL.
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Ooooh. Jones was a good pick.
I am contractually obligated to take John Jenkins. He was the guy I probably would have taken at 16 anyway, due to my rampant homerism. Also, rather than trading away any of my excess picks to The Walker Wiggle, I will instead be donating them to Mitt Romney's Yachting Fund in his name.
what pick is this? i had Birdman up next but maybe you traded picks....
They did. Birdman traded #23 and #29 for #21.
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I actually had a "and anyway John Jenkins at 16 would've been a reach" line ready to post. But I didn't want GC to scream, "No Names!" at me.
Could get some minutes in ATL.
Yeah, that's my thought. Valuable in H2H thanks to his 3pt shooting. He'll only have to beat out Anthony Morrow for a starting spot, and given their commitment to rebuilding down there, I wouldn't be surprised if he does.
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I don't see Gomesfan, whose pick is due.
HPA at #24 is Evan Fournier (20th).
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I actually had a "and anyway John Jenkins at 16 would've been a reach" line ready to post. But I didn't want GC to scream, "No Names!" at me.
Could get some minutes in ATL.
Yeah, that's my thought. Valuable in H2H thanks to his 3pt shooting. He'll only have to beat out Anthony Morrow for a starting spot, and given their commitment to rebuilding down there, I wouldn't be surprised if he does.
he was a lot higher on my board on draft night, but since ATL has since added Lou Williams, Devin Harris, Morrow, Korver, and deshawn stevenson's straw & mountain dew collection, thought he'd get burried on the bench.
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Alright, this might be a bit of a reach but this guy should get some immediate minutes in Chicago and could be a pleasant surprise:
Marquis Teague
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My #27 is available, but be quick.
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hpantazo check your PMs
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at 26, Toines Boys take Tony Wroten Jr.
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Alright, this might be a bit of a reach but this guy should get some immediate minutes in Chicago and could be a pleasant surprise:
Marquis Teague
i was going to pick him at 23 with Rose out, he should get quality time
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hpantazo check your PMs
thanks GC, TP for working fast!
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at 26, Toines Boys take Tony Wroten Jr.
Nice. Was hoping that he'd slide a little more.
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at 26, Toines Boys take Tony Wroten Jr.
Nice. Was hoping that he'd slide a little more.
I wasn't ;) ;D
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Valanciunas, Waiters, Jimmy Butler, and another pick to come. I think Rubio & Friends will take another step in the right direction this year...
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At #27, I'll take Draymond Green. He's on the move.
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Trade to announce:
Gainesville Celtic trades Perry Jones III
Toine's Boys trades Tony Wroten, Jr. & #30
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At #27, I'll take Draymond Green. He's on the move.
A player I like a lot. Underrated. Although he's got a tough road to reliable minutes. Will depend a lot on Barnes.
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Psycho T, Ramon Sessions, Alonzo Gee, Carl Landry, Marvin Williams, Chandler Parsons are available..like to trade 2 for 1..im looking for a center
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I now have pick #30, does Birdman still have #29? -- if so don't take my guy Birdman :)
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Trade to announce:
Gainesville Celtic trades Perry Jones III
Toine's Boys trades Tony Wroten, Jr. & #30
Huh. Some people love Wroten. I'm not one of them. Reminds me of a worse Marcus Banks. But I suppose Jones isn't in line for many minutes behind KD.
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LarryBird17's pick is due.
HPA at #28 is Jared Cunningham (24th).
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At #27, I'll take Draymond Green. He's on the move.
A player I like a lot. Underrated. Although he's got a tough road to reliable minutes. Will depend a lot on Barnes.
glad to hear you like him, he's on his way to Toine's Boys!
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Trade to announce:
Toine's Boys trades Reggie Williams
Lucky17 trades Draymond Green
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With the 29th, I'll take
Jae Crowder
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I'll just publicly offer up my 2013 2nd round pick if anybody is feeling the roster limit.
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With the 29th, I'll take
Jae Crowder
He's underrated. One of my favorite players in this year's rookie crop. Not sure how fantasy friendly his game is, but I love the pick at this point.
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Trade to announce:
Toine's Boys trades Reggie Williams
Lucky17 trades Draymond Green
Toine's Boys close the day with this trade. Total for today:
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
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Send offers for my pick and pick Now
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Trade to announce:
Gainesville Celtic trades Perry Jones III
Toine's Boys trades Tony Wroten, Jr. & #30
Huh. Some people love Wroten. I'm not one of them. Reminds me of a worse Marcus Banks. But I suppose Jones isn't in line for many minutes behind KD.
oy... a worse Marcus Banks?!? ooof
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Send offers for my pick and pick Now
Which pick? The 40th? Or did you trade for an earlier 2nd?
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Trade to announce:
Gainesville Celtic trades Perry Jones III
Toine's Boys trades Tony Wroten, Jr. & #30
Huh. Some people love Wroten. I'm not one of them. Reminds me of a worse Marcus Banks. But I suppose Jones isn't in line for many minutes behind KD.
oy... a worse Marcus Banks?!? ooof
yea, I thought nothing can possibly be worse than Marcus Banks at guard
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Send offers for my pick and pick Now
You were assigned Evan Fournier at 24. You've still got #40 to use, though.
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Trade to announce:
Toine's Boys trades Reggie Williams
Lucky17 trades Draymond Green
Toine's Boys close the day with this trade. Total for today:
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
Great day for u. Great college players for sure but see what they can do in pros. Green, i got my doubts..Jones should be good if his knees holds out
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GC? #30 is due.
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Ok, taking a flier here..... which one is the question.
guess i'll take the higher risk/reward one... though TWW will probably call him a shorter Jerome Moiso....
Will Barton
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Ok, taking a flier here..... which one is the question.
guess i'll take the higher risk/reward one... though TWW will probably call him a shorter Jerome Moiso....
Will Barton
No I love that guy. Would've been my pick since the 20s. Wish Boston had taken him over Fab Melo. Thanks for spoiling my draft.
I guess, I'll reverse course and put the #38 up for trade. Given how difficult it's been for me to trade up this year, I'm expecting a solid rotation guy in return.
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Is this correct?
31. Utah Flash (via Make Me Some Bacon via Webskins) 4:15
32. Make Me Some Bacon (via Gainesville Celtics) 4:20
33. Designated Drinkers (via Utah Flash) 4:25
34. Rusted Rims (via Kwhit10) 4:30
35. Rubio and Friends (via Toine's Boys via KWhit10 via Designated Drinkers) 4:35
36. Password is Taco 4:40
37. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Utah Flash via Y’all Hate) 4:45
38. DraftDodgers 4:50
39. Utah Flash (via Gainesville Celtics via Harden’s Homeboys) 4:55
40. Gomesfan (via Boxer Rebellion) 5:00
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Okay folks, I have to leave so thanks to Lucky for a great draft and thanks to everyone with the trade proposals and trades. If u still want to make a deal, just leave me a message and i get back to u asap.
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Okay folks, I have to leave so thanks to Lucky for a great draft and thanks to everyone with the trade proposals and trades. If u still want to make a deal, just leave me a message and i get back to u asap.
thanks Birdman, good luck
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mkogav left me a list of players.
At #31, Utah Flash selects Kim English.
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I've got to step out for a lunch date. Can the rest of you guys handle the remainder of the 2nd round? I suspect it's going to be a fair amount of autopicking.
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anyone with a pick in the remaining end of the draft interested in trading it for Terrence Williams?
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I've got to step out for a lunch date. Can the rest of you guys handle the remainder of the 2nd round?
I think we are good. Thanks again Lucky.
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mkogav left me a list of players.
At #31, Utah Flash selects Kim English.
Ironically this is the other guy i was considering along with Barton....
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mkogav left me a list of players.
At #31, Utah Flash selects Kim English.
Did he leave you the #39 pick too?
I'm guessing MMSB didn't leave a pick for #32 either? it's past due...
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Make Me Some Bacon have missed the 32nd pick. Team is awarded BPA Miles Plumlee.
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32. Make Me Some Bacon (via Gainesville Celtics) 4:20
33. Designated Drinkers (via Utah Flash) 4:25
34. Rusted Rims (via Kwhit10) 4:30
35. Rubio and Friends (via Toine's Boys via KWhit10 via Designated Drinkers) 4:35
36. Password is Taco 4:40
37. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Utah Flash via Y’all Hate) 4:45
38. DraftDodgers 4:50
39. Utah Flash (via Gainesville Celtics via Harden’s Homeboys) 4:55
40. Gomesfan (via Boxer Rebellion) 5:00
OK so stepping into the void...
#32 MMSB = HPA = Miles Plumlee
#33 Des. Drinkers = HPA = Arnett Moultrie
Fairweatherfan back on the clock...
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Draymond green
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Thanks, GC. Didn't realize that neither of my BPA picks posted thanks to new replies.
Funny that the 2nd round has been so much busier than the 1st.
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Draymond Green is taken.
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Shoot he is gone. Sorry had to make a very unexpected drive to the airport. I'll take Ezeli if available or HAP if not
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Shoot he is gone. Sorry had to make a very unexpected drive to the airport. I'll take Ezeli if available or HAP if not
Aw.
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Shoot he is gone. Sorry had to make a very unexpected drive to the airport. I'll take Ezeli if available or HAP if not
Festus Ezeli is both available and HAP.
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The Rubio's select Tyshawn Taylor
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36. Password is Taco 4:40
37. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Utah Flash via Y’all Hate) 4:45
38. DraftDodgers 4:50
39. Utah Flash (via Gainesville Celtics via Harden’s Homeboys) 4:55
40. Gomesfan (via Boxer Rebellion) 5:00
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I'll take Doron Lamb.
Jenkins/Teague/Crowder/Lamb
One of those guys is bound to pay off. Probably after I cut him.
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36. Password is Taco 4:40
37. Rusted Rims (via Make Me Some Bacon via Utah Flash via Y’all Hate) 4:45
38. DraftDodgers 4:50
39. Utah Flash (via Gainesville Celtics via Harden’s Homeboys) 4:55
40. Gomesfan (via Boxer Rebellion) 5:00
Terrence Williams is available if anyone wants to trade out.
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Sincere apologies if he's taken, but I'll try for Quincy miller.
And definite apologies for no highlights, I'm on a phone.
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Sincere apologies if he's taken, but I'll try for Quincy miller.
And definite apologies for no highlights, I'm on a phone.
Oh yeah.... WELL I'M ON A BOAT!!!!
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No apologies necessary. He's available. The Rusted Rims select: Quincy Miller.
And then with the 38th pick your champion THE Walker Wiggle selects Scott Machado.
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Guys...i just wanted to quickly apologize for my weak showing and lack of participation today. I generally plan accordingly for thesethings.... as most of you know i am generally really involved. I dropped the ball today and totally forgot and couldnt squeeze out much time to get into it.
Anyone know when the points league draft is?
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The Utah Flash are past due. They are awarded 31st pick Jeff Taylor.
And now for the final pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft, Gomesfan is staring at Tomas Satoransky. I can't bear the suspense.
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Guys...i just wanted to quickly apologize for my weak showing and lack of participation today. I generally plan accordingly for thesethings.... as most of you know i am generally really involved. I dropped the ball today and totally forgot and couldnt squeeze out much time to get into it.
Anyone know when the points league draft is?
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Life happens MMSB... no harm, no foul.
I don't know that Lucky has set a date... I'd argue that given the historic lack of attendance at the PTS league draft we might want to have GMs PM in that they're gonna be there.
No apologies necessary. He's available. The Rusted Rims select: Quincy Miller.
And then with the 38th pick your champion THE Walker Wiggle selects Scott Machado.
More like Macha-D'oh! he was 34th on my list.... (though truth be told there were 2-3 guys who've yet to be taken above him...)
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The Utah Flash are past due. They are awarded 31st pick Jeff Taylor.
And now for the final pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft, Gomesfan is staring at Tomas Satoransky. I can't bear the suspense.
you didn't stick Champkind with Satoransky earlier?!? booo...
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Guys...i just wanted to quickly apologize for my weak showing and lack of participation today. I generally plan accordingly for thesethings.... as most of you know i am generally really involved. I dropped the ball today and totally forgot and couldnt squeeze out much time to get into it.
Anyone know when the points league draft is?
Nah. We all know you're a stand up guy RP - with a good track record. Just next time send me a list, I would've been happy to help you.
Thoughts and prayers to your dad.
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The Utah Flash are past due. They are awarded 31st pick Jeff Taylor.
And now for the final pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft, Gomesfan is staring at Tomas Satoransky. I can't bear the suspense.
you didn't stick Champkind with Satoransky earlier?!? booo...
And with the 40th pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft Gomesfan is awarded Tomas Satoransky. He's no Tomislav Zubcic. But he is a worthy final pick.
Now if you don't mind. I'm just going to stay behind the podium until GC turns out the lights. Your deputy commisioner may have forgotten to put on pants.
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The Utah Flash are past due. They are awarded 31st pick Jeff Taylor.
And now for the final pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft, Gomesfan is staring at Tomas Satoransky. I can't bear the suspense.
you didn't stick Champkind with Satoransky earlier?!? booo...
And with the 40th pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft Gomesfan is awarded Tomas Satoransky. He's no Tomislav Zubcic. But he is a worthy final pick.
Now I'm going to stay behind the podium while GC turns out the lights because your deputy commisioner forgot to put on pants.
wait, am i turning off the lights or putting on your pants?!? either way i'll need at least 2 tommy points. And I'll give you 3
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Thanks Lucky, TWW, GC, and everyone for a great draft day.
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The Utah Flash are past due. They are awarded 31st pick Jeff Taylor.
And now for the final pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft, Gomesfan is staring at Tomas Satoransky. I can't bear the suspense.
you didn't stick Champkind with Satoransky earlier?!? booo...
And with the 40th pick of the 2012 CB H2H Draft Gomesfan is awarded Tomas Satoransky. He's no Tomislav Zubcic. But he is a worthy final pick.
Now I'm going to stay behind the podium while GC turns out the lights because your deputy commisioner forgot to put on pants.
wait, am i turning off the lights or putting on your pants?!? either way i'll need at least 2 tommy points. And I'll give you 3
I'm leaving the room so you guys can do whatever you want in there
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mkogav left me a list of players.
At #31, Utah Flash selects Kim English.
Did he leave you the #39 pick too?
I'm guessing MMSB didn't leave a pick for #32 either? it's past due...
Just got back. I checked my inbox, and mkogav DID leave me a list for #39, so I feel we need to roll back the last two picks, out of fairness to mkogav.
Kyle O'Quinn was the last nonBPA on mkogav's list, so I feel he should be the pick at #39. Which means that Gomesfan ends up with Jeffery Taylor at #40.
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mkogav left me a list of players.
At #31, Utah Flash selects Kim English.
Did he leave you the #39 pick too?
I'm guessing MMSB didn't leave a pick for #32 either? it's past due...
Just got back. I checked my inbox, and mkogav DID leave me a list for #39, so I feel we need to roll back the last two picks, out of fairness to mkogav.
Kyle O'Quinn was the last nonBPA on mkogav's list, so I feel he should be the pick at #39. Which means that Gomesfan ends up with Jeffery Taylor at #40.
Gomesfan saved by Mk!
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mkogav left me a list of players.
At #31, Utah Flash selects Kim English.
Did he leave you the #39 pick too?
I'm guessing MMSB didn't leave a pick for #32 either? it's past due...
Just got back. I checked my inbox, and mkogav DID leave me a list for #39, so I feel we need to roll back the last two picks, out of fairness to mkogav.
Kyle O'Quinn was the last nonBPA on mkogav's list, so I feel he should be the pick at #39. Which means that Gomesfan ends up with Jeffery Taylor at #40.
That all sounds kosher.
thanks for all the leg work Lucky, but can you ask the Walker Wiggle to put his pants on?
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Also, sartorial blunders aside, thanks to GC and TWW for stepping in for the last quarter.
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Pretty surprised Thomas Robinson fell to me. We'll gladly welcome him to the team. That being said - he is available if people are interested...
That means that trade Lucky and I pulled off last year was:
To Lucky: Wes Matthews, Omri Casspi + my old 1 pick [Which Lucky appears to have traded for something along the way]
To Ya'll Hate: Aaron Afflalo, Mareese Speights + John Salmons + Thomas Robinson
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Pretty surprised Thomas Robinson fell to me. We'll gladly welcome him to the team. That being said - he is available if people are interested...
That means that trade Lucky and I pulled off last year was:
To Lucky: Wes Matthews, Omri Casspi + my old 1 pick [Which Lucky appears to have traded for something along the way]
To Ya'll Hate: Aaron Afflalo, Mareese Speights + John Salmons + Thomas Robinson
Don't remind me.
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Good draft everyone, TP to Lucky and TWW.
That said if anyone is interested in John Henson and Royce White hit me up. ;)
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TP Lucky.... Email when we are doing points draft
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TPs to Lucky, WW, and screw it, whoever else my mouse happens across. Fun time.
Always available for trade discussions - in addition to my main roster I picked MKG, Jeremy Lamb, Andrew Nicholson, Festus Ezeli and Quincy Miller.
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Hap, GC, FW TP
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TP Lucky.... Email when we are doing points draft
Next week, Thursday.
I'm going to reopen the official trading season on Tuesday, maybe Monday.
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Hap, GC, FW TP
TP Gomesfan, gl with Anthony Davis
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No Brainerd as far as I am concerned....... He's a FREAKING! And that ****g eyebrows the Internet thing he has going is DOPE!
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The roster/trade log doc should be up to date after today's action. Let me know if things look out of place.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&pli=1#gid=0
Roster cut down day won't be for a couple weeks, so people can carry more than 16 players until then.
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That wasn't his an F bomb btw... It was the igging
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TP for your great work Lucky. Enjoy both leagues very much.
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TP Lucky. Well done.
Psyched to get Beal. He was our #2 option after Davis. I think MKG will be the second best player in the draft, but I'm not sure that it will show as well statistically.
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Pretty surprised Thomas Robinson fell to me. We'll gladly welcome him to the team. That being said - he is available if people are interested...
That means that trade Lucky and I pulled off last year was:
To Lucky: Wes Matthews, Omri Casspi + my old 1 pick [Which Lucky appears to have traded for something along the way]
To Ya'll Hate: Aaron Afflalo, Mareese Speights + John Salmons + Thomas Robinson
Yeah, I still don't know what Lucky was thinking there (veto!) but he's a great Commish.
The trade was a steal for you, as was T-Rob. He was in our top four.
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Bad, bad deal for me. I believe I compounded the badness with the follow up deal of YH's 1st, Horford, and Chalmers for Humphries and Teague.
I think I was making a desperate push for the playoffs at the time. Afflalo was slumping then, but bounced back. His relocation to Orlando since doesn't make me feel any better about things either.
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
Ah, sorry I missed that you were having trouble contacting him. The user is "BDubs".
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
Ah, sorry I missed that you were having trouble contacting him. The user is "BDubs".
Thanks, Roy. I updated the google doc.
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The roster/trade log doc should be up to date after today's action. Let me know if things look out of place.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&pli=1#gid=0
Roster cut down day won't be for a couple weeks, so people can carry more than 16 players until then.
Hmmm... traning camps don't open until Oct. 2 (per NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/news/key-dates/index.html)) any chance we can make cut-down date something like Oct. 16th ---- 2 weeks into training camp, and still 2 weeks from the start of the season?
I'd help load rosters into Yahoo! if you need it --- since I'm guessing that load of busy work is the driving force behind an earlier cut-down date.
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
I just saw this, did I miss my chance to draft?
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
I just saw this, did I miss my chance to draft?
Sorry, yeah. You were autoassigned Kendall Marshall for your only pick (1st round).
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
I just saw this, did I miss my chance to draft?
Sorry, yeah. You were autoassigned Kendall Marshall for your only pick (1st round).
I'm pretty upset since I wanted nothing to do with Marshall, but I guess the draft in one day is the way it was being done. I was under the impression that we were going to take time to account for people that have to work and such. I have limited access to computers while at work. I think I saw an email this past weekend, this was put together so fast and I got screwed out of the players I wanted that were still available, but I guess I have to deal. . . right.
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
I just saw this, did I miss my chance to draft?
Sorry, yeah. You were autoassigned Kendall Marshall for your only pick (1st round).
I'm pretty upset since I wanted nothing to do with Marshall, but I guess the draft in one day is the way it was being done. I was under the impression that we were going to take time to account for people that have to work and such. I have limited access to computers while at work. I think I saw an email this past weekend, this was put together so fast and I got screwed out of the players I wanted that were still available, but I guess I have to deal. . . right.
Sorry, BDubs. From your reply to my email earlier this week, it looked like you were all set to join us.
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
I just saw this, did I miss my chance to draft?
Sorry, yeah. You were autoassigned Kendall Marshall for your only pick (1st round).
I'm pretty upset since I wanted nothing to do with Marshall, but I guess the draft in one day is the way it was being done. I was under the impression that we were going to take time to account for people that have to work and such. I have limited access to computers while at work. I think I saw an email this past weekend, this was put together so fast and I got screwed out of the players I wanted that were still available, but I guess I have to deal. . . right.
Sorry, BDubs. From your reply to my email earlier this week, it looked like you were all set to join us.
Yeah, I totally forgot. Life intervines I guess. Marshall is on the block. Best offer I get in the next few days gets him. . .
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Yahoo! has just reopened FBB leagues. I have renewed our league, and there should be an invite in your email inboxes for everyone to rejoin the league.
If anyone can't come back, please let me know, so we can find a replacement GM.
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What is the username of the Juggernauts owner?
I thought it was something like Barnaby, but couldn't quite figure it out in order to PM him.
I think that's his first name, but I don't see any barnaby usernames in the memberlist.
edit* Thanks Roy
I just saw this, did I miss my chance to draft?
Sorry, yeah. You were autoassigned Kendall Marshall for your only pick (1st round).
I'm pretty upset since I wanted nothing to do with Marshall, but I guess the draft in one day is the way it was being done. I was under the impression that we were going to take time to account for people that have to work and such. I have limited access to computers while at work. I think I saw an email this past weekend, this was put together so fast and I got screwed out of the players I wanted that were still available, but I guess I have to deal. . . right.
Sorry, BDubs. From your reply to my email earlier this week, it looked like you were all set to join us.
Yeah, I totally forgot. Life intervines I guess. Marshall is on the block. Best offer I get in the next few days gets him. . .
I replied to some of the messages I received last night. If anyone wants to check them out and reply to me, hopefully we can have a trade to announce today. . .
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Small trade anyone?
All three players, in any combination, are available for a 2013 second rounder.
Nolan Smith
Jon Leuer
Kylie O'Quinn
Mk
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
Ouch - there is the pain of missing the draft. [regardless of peoples value of the actual players] Juggernauts gives up the 13th pick AND a 2nd round pick next year for the 16th pick.
That being said, I like Royce White's ceiling more than Marshall's, though I suspect Marshall will have a better year this year then White will.
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
Ouch - there is the pain of missing the draft. [regardless of peoples value of the actual players] Juggernauts gives up the 13th pick AND a 2nd round pick next year for the 16th pick.
That being said, I like Royce White's ceiling more than Marshall's, though I suspect Marshall will have a better year this year then White will.
Yeah, I did a double-take, to be sure I was seeing that right.
And I also like White more than Marshall. Although, what do I know?
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
Ouch - there is the pain of missing the draft. [regardless of peoples value of the actual players] Juggernauts gives up the 13th pick AND a 2nd round pick next year for the 16th pick.
That being said, I like Royce White's ceiling more than Marshall's, though I suspect Marshall will have a better year this year then White will.
Yeah, I did a double-take, to be sure I was seeing that right.
And I also like White more than Marshall. Although, what do I know?
I think Marshall will be a solid PG in the real NBA, but his scoring ability makes Jason Kidd look like Allen Iverson. That's a pretty big issue in this format.
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Another trade:
Kwhit sends John Henson
Utah Flash sends Jason Smith, 2013 1st rounder, and Birdmans 2013 2nd rounder
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Another trade:
Kwhit sends John Henson
Utah Flash sends Jason Smith, 2013 1st rounder, and Birdmans 2013 2nd rounder
wow, big price to pay for Henson imo, but Mk knows his stuff and is very active this offseason. It will be interesting to see how all of the Flash's moves work out.
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Another trade:
Kwhit sends John Henson
Utah Flash sends Jason Smith, 2013 1st rounder, and Birdmans 2013 2nd rounder
wow, big price to pay for Henson imo, but Mk knows his stuff and is very active this offseason. It will be interesting to see how all of the Flash's moves work out.
I forgot to add, fair deal overall.
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
Another fair deal. I like White more in fantasy formats than Marshall.
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Another trade:
Kwhit sends John Henson
Utah Flash sends Jason Smith, 2013 1st rounder, and Birdmans 2013 2nd rounder
wow, big price to pay for Henson imo, but Mk knows his stuff and is very active this offseason. It will be interesting to see how all of the Flash's moves work out.
I like Henson as a prospect - I would've picked him at 12 if Lamb was gone - but it might take him awhile to earn major minutes with that logjam Milwaukee has up front. Especially when Ilyasova just signed a big contract, and Henson's too skinny to play at C.
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
Ouch - there is the pain of missing the draft. [regardless of peoples value of the actual players] Juggernauts gives up the 13th pick AND a 2nd round pick next year for the 16th pick.
That being said, I like Royce White's ceiling more than Marshall's, though I suspect Marshall will have a better year this year then White will.
Yeah, I did a double-take, to be sure I was seeing that right.
And I also like White more than Marshall. Although, what do I know?
I think Marshall will be a solid PG in the real NBA, but his scoring ability makes Jason Kidd look like Allen Iverson. That's a pretty big issue in this format.
I went back and forth on actually trading White. I wasn't necessarily targeting him in the draft. But I did want Lamb or Marshall. I think Marshall will be a nice PG in the league, and I was specifically looking for a young point guard.
Another trade:
Kwhit sends John Henson
Utah Flash sends Jason Smith, 2013 1st rounder, and Birdmans 2013 2nd rounder
wow, big price to pay for Henson imo, but Mk knows his stuff and is very active this offseason. It will be interesting to see how all of the Flash's moves work out.
I like Henson as a prospect - I would've picked him at 12 if Lamb was gone - but it might take him awhile to earn major minutes with that logjam Milwaukee has up front. Especially when Ilyasova just signed a big contract, and Henson's too skinny to play at C.
Yea I knew there was a log jam in Milwaukee and didn't know how much burn he would get with the long contracts on Gooden and Ilyasova. And Mk made sure to mention he had time to wait on him. So I took the known production of Smith and a 1st round pick next year.
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Another trade:
Kwhit sends John Henson
Utah Flash sends Jason Smith, 2013 1st rounder, and Birdmans 2013 2nd rounder
I like Henson and I don't mind waiting a while for him to get some PT. In the long run, talent wins out over contracts. Or that's what I am going to tell myself when Skiles is playing Gooden and Dunleavy each 38 minutes per game.
Mk
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Trade to announce:
Juggernauts trade Kendall Marshall and 2013 2nd round pick
Kwhit10 trades Royce White
Ouch - there is the pain of missing the draft. [regardless of peoples value of the actual players] Juggernauts gives up the 13th pick AND a 2nd round pick next year for the 16th pick.
That being said, I like Royce White's ceiling more than Marshall's, though I suspect Marshall will have a better year this year then White will.
Yeah, I did a double-take, to be sure I was seeing that right.
And I also like White more than Marshall. Although, what do I know?
I think Marshall will be a solid PG in the real NBA, but his scoring ability makes Jason Kidd look like Allen Iverson. That's a pretty big issue in this format.
I am very high on White and hope that he makes it worth it. I think with Phoenix adding Dragic I don't think Marshall is going to see a lot of court time for a few seasons if he stays there. I think Royce White has a higher ceiling and maybe make an immediate impact if he can carve out some time in the rotation.
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another Toine's Boys trade announcement is coming up!
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another Toine's Boys trade announcement is coming up!
TP for being the most active GM in both leagues!
Mk
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another Toine's Boys trade announcement is coming up!
TP for being the most active GM in both leagues!
Mk
The new nickname is Tasmanian Devil. Lucky is probably in therapy shaking right now saying "He..jjj..just...ww.ww..wwon't stop...ttt..trading. Need coffee."
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Thanks guys, hopefully the sum of my moves results in a better team in both leagues, but it has been a fun offseason! Mk and Eja, you guys are close behind on moves as well, TPs all around.
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Trade to announce:
Rusted Rims trade Iman Shumpert, Corey Brewer, and Festus Ezeli
Toine's Boys trade JR Smith
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Trade to announce:
Rusted Rims trade Iman Shumpert, Corey Brewer, and Festus Ezeli
Toine's Boys trade JR Smith
and with that, the 2012-2013 Toine's Boys roster is set.
Welcome to the team Shumpert, now get back to your rehab!
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Trade to announce:
Rusted Rims trade Iman Shumpert, Corey Brewer, and Festus Ezeli
Toine's Boys trade JR Smith
Brewer and Ezeli were both below my cut line, so this boiled down to Shumpert for Smith on my end. TB had room for all of them so the math's a little different for him.
It was a tough decision - I love me some Shump-Shump, but Smith is still just 27 and is gonna be a primary scorer for the Knicks, especially if Amar'e continues to regress. And he's in a contract year. Chuck away JR!
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On a related note, here's my current roster
Carmelo
Greg Monroe
Klay Thompson
Brandon Knight
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Omer Asik
JR Smith
Jeremy Lamb
Andrew Nicholson
Tyrus Thomas
Mike Dunleavy
Danny Green
Jameer Nelson
Quincy Miller
Wes Johnson
Jorts Harrellson
Big Baby Davis
Roddy Beaubois
Trevor Booker
Brandon Roy
As you can see, I still have 4 cuts to make, including some tough ones. Won't someone save me?!? From ALL THE TALENT???
Looking for deals to trim down my roster. I'll listen to any offers but guys in red will be tough to get. If you're looking to trade a good player for some depth, hit me up!
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Trade to announce:
Rusted Rims trade Iman Shumpert, Corey Brewer, and Festus Ezeli
Toine's Boys trade JR Smith
Brewer and Ezeli were both below my cut line, so this boiled down to Shumpert for Smith on my end. TB had room for all of them so the math's a little different for him.
It was a tough decision - I love me some Shump-Shump, but Smith is still just 27 and is gonna be a primary scorer for the Knicks, especially if Amar'e continues to regress. And he's in a contract year. Chuck away JR!
yea, I have no chance of contending this year, so I can wait on Shumpert to recover and develop, and the other 2 guys help fill out my roster, but yes, JR is a big time chucker in a contract year on a high scoring system, you can't go wrong with that in fantasy bball. Just like Glen Davis, they will put up the numbers!
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Trade to announce:
Rusted Rims trade Iman Shumpert, Corey Brewer, and Festus Ezeli
Toine's Boys trade JR Smith
Brewer and Ezeli were both below my cut line, so this boiled down to Shumpert for Smith on my end. TB had room for all of them so the math's a little different for him.
It was a tough decision - I love me some Shump-Shump, but Smith is still just 27 and is gonna be a primary scorer for the Knicks, especially if Amar'e continues to regress. And he's in a contract year. Chuck away JR!
no other comments on the deal?
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Lucky are the H2H google docs rosters fully up to date?
I see you moved Henson from my team and onto Utah Flash, but didn't move over Jason Smith back to mine.
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Lucky are the H2H google docs rosters fully up to date?
I see you moved Henson from my team and onto Utah Flash, but didn't move over Jason Smith back to mine.
Yes, and my 2013 #1 pick is list both under me and Kwhit. It should only be listed under Kwhit.
Mk
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Lucky are the H2H google docs rosters fully up to date?
I see you moved Henson from my team and onto Utah Flash, but didn't move over Jason Smith back to mine.
yea, my roster and FWF's should be changed to reflect the JR Smith to Rusted Rims, Shumpert, Corey Brewer, and Ezeli to Toine's Boys trade as well.
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Those two trades hadn't yet been processed. They are now. Let me know if things aren't quite right.
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Those two trades hadn't yet been processed. They are now. Let me know if things aren't quite right.
looks great, thanks Lucky.
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Terrence Williams and Jajuan Johnson are available for a 2nd rounder. Two young, talented guys who should get more opportunity this year.
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Jon Leuer and Nolan Smith are available for a second rounder or a large cream-only from Dunkins.
Mk
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
(http://blog.nj.com/nets_impact/2009/06/large_terrence-williams-new-jersey-nets-619.jpg)
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
Confirmed. Updating the roster sheet.
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
Confirmed. Updating the roster sheet.
It was worth a second round pick on the 15%-20% chance TWill becomes a Celtics.
Mk
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Do we have an official cut day yet? I think GC suggested October 16th but I haven't heard it verified.
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Do we have an official cut day yet? I think GC suggested October 16th but I haven't heard it verified.
I believe we normally do the 30th of September. Then Lucky takes a day or two to upload the rosters into yahoo.
Mk
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Do we have an official cut day yet? I think GC suggested October 16th but I haven't heard it verified.
In a PM Lucky said that was around when he was thinking --- a couple weeks into training camp, a couple before the start of the season.
BUT THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS OFFICIAL!!!!
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Do we have an official cut day yet? I think GC suggested October 16th but I haven't heard it verified.
In a PM Lucky said that was around when he was thinking --- a couple weeks into training camp, a couple before the start of the season.
BUT THAT SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AS OFFICIAL!!!!
I prefer this as it gives us more info - in case there are training camp injuries or something - while still having a post-cut window to make waiver pickups, trades, etc.
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
(http://blog.nj.com/nets_impact/2009/06/large_terrence-williams-new-jersey-nets-619.jpg)
Free agent guard Terrence Williams has agreed to a training camp contract with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.
Well, I guess Darko won out over TWill. My dream of TWill on the Cs is over... for now.
As far as TWill goes, it's not a good sign when you have to take a 'training camp' contract with a lottery team who already have... (5) small forwards on their roster; Prince, Maggette, Daye, Middleton, and Singler.
Then again, those aren't All Stars in front of him either.
Mk
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
(http://blog.nj.com/nets_impact/2009/06/large_terrence-williams-new-jersey-nets-619.jpg)
Free agent guard Terrence Williams has agreed to a training camp contract with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.
Well, I guess Darko won out over TWill. My dream of TWill on the Cs is over... for now.
As far as TWill goes, it's not a good sign when you have to take a 'training camp' contract with a lottery team who already have... (5) small forwards on their roster; Prince, Maggette, Daye, Middleton, and Singler.
Then again, those aren't All Stars in front of him either.
Mk
Cheer up Mk... it's not like you traded a 2nd rounder for Jordan Williams a guy who was waived 15 days later :P ;D
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I'm thinking the week of Oct 15th for roster cuts. Opening night is Tuesday, Oct 30th. Two weeks before would be the 16th, so I'm thinking that might be a good day for cuts to be finalized and rosters uploaded to Yahoo! Thoughts?
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I'm thinking the week of Oct 15th for roster cuts. Opening night is Tuesday, Oct 30th. Two weeks before would be the 16th, so I'm thinking that might be a good day for cuts to be finalized and rosters uploaded to Yahoo! Thoughts?
Yea that sounds good. It's nice to be able to see some players in preseason, but also give you ample time to upload all the rosters without having to rush to do it.
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I'm thinking the week of Oct 15th for roster cuts. Opening night is Tuesday, Oct 30th. Two weeks before would be the 16th, so I'm thinking that might be a good day for cuts to be finalized and rosters uploaded to Yahoo! Thoughts?
Yea that sounds good. It's nice to be able to see some players in preseason, but also give you ample time to upload all the rosters without having to rush to do it.
Works for me.
Mk
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Another deal:
Toine's Boys send Terrence Williams
Utah Flash send Utah Flash 2013 2nd rounder
(http://blog.nj.com/nets_impact/2009/06/large_terrence-williams-new-jersey-nets-619.jpg)
Free agent guard Terrence Williams has agreed to a training camp contract with the Detroit Pistons, league sources tell Y! Sports.
Well, I guess Darko won out over TWill. My dream of TWill on the Cs is over... for now.
As far as TWill goes, it's not a good sign when you have to take a 'training camp' contract with a lottery team who already have... (5) small forwards on their roster; Prince, Maggette, Daye, Middleton, and Singler.
Then again, those aren't All Stars in front of him either.
Mk
Cheer up Mk... it's not like you traded a 2nd rounder for Jordan Williams a guy who was waived 15 days later :P ;D
Given Danny Ferry's record as a GM, I fully expect Williams to be starting for some other NBA team by the end of the season.
Mk
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So, I've heard of a trade (still pending) that involves the right to swap picks.
One of the things I wanted to resolve before the start of next season is the trading of draft picks.
I am proposing the following:
1. Protection on 1st rounders can only be top-3. If the pick ends up in the top 3, a 1st rounder the following year will be owed, with no protection.
2. The right to swap picks cannot be subsequently traded to another team. Put differently, you cannot trade a pick you may, or may not, end up with; you may only trade what picks you currently have.
3. No protections on 2nd rounders.
We also need to resolve the following:
1. number of league votes required for change to league rules
2. number of league votes required to overturn/veto trades
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i like what u are proposing
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So, I've heard of a trade (still pending) that involves the right to swap picks.
One of the things I wanted to resolve before the start of next season is the trading of draft picks.
I am proposing the following:
1. Protection on 1st rounders can only be top-3. If the pick ends up in the top 3, a 1st rounder the following year will be owed, with no protection.
2. The right to swap picks cannot be subsequently traded to another team. Put differently, you cannot trade a pick you may, or may not, end up with; you may only trade what picks you currently have.
3. No protections on 2nd rounders.
To clarify, protections on 1sts are an option to include in a deal, but not mandatory? And while you can't trade the right to swap, you can still trade your own 1st with the right to swap attached, right?
Example: Last year TWW had swap rights with Webskins. I traded for WW's pick, so the right to swap transferred with that, right? (it was moot for me because I also already had Webskins' 1st).
I'm ok with all those rules if I'm understanding them correctly though.
We also need to resolve the following:
1. number of league votes required for change to league rules
2. number of league votes required to overturn/veto trades
What's the current standard for #1, and what are the proposed alternatives?
I'm fine with #2 staying the way it is, because I think it's a fair bar and because it'd be a lot more work to do it outside of the Yahoo system.
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1. Protection on 1st rounders can only be top-3. If the pick ends up in the top 3, a 1st rounder the following year will be owed, with no protection.
agreed
2. The right to swap picks cannot be subsequently traded to another team. Put differently, you cannot trade a pick you may, or may not, end up with; you may only trade what picks you currently have.
agreed
3. No protections on 2nd rounders.
agreed
1. number of league votes required for change to league rules
same as veto
2. number of league votes required to overturn/veto trades
Whatever the Y! default is. Seven I believe.
Mk
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BTW trade winds are a blowin' here in Rustland.
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I'm okay with the trade restrictions, though maybe we could clarify that a bit and also list which picks are grandfathered in because they already have been made and have provisions attached(that is if there are any.
Regarding league rules and the veto I still feel that the majority of the league should be in accord with each other to change rules and create a veto of a trade. If something is going to change for the good of the league a minority of 7 owners' votes shouldn't be enough to change things. It can lead to groups of owners banding together to change the league to their advantage. While it is unlikely, it may have already happened with last year's infamous veto and I fear for what just a one third vote could do to the rules if a similar minority gather together to manipulate the rules to their advantage.
Just one man's opinion and not necessarily that of my team's.
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To clarify, protections on 1sts are an option to include in a deal, but not mandatory?
Correct. Not mandatory.
And while you can't trade the right to swap, you can still trade your own 1st with the right to swap attached, right?
Example: Last year TWW had swap rights with Webskins. I traded for WW's pick, so the right to swap transferred with that, right? (it was moot for me because I also already had Webskins' 1st).
Actually, this scenario is what I'm trying to cut down on. The above example is simple enough to track; it's the nth commutation of the right to swap picks that drove me nuts last year.
So, by our new rules, TWW would have had to relinquish the right to swap picks with Webskins before trading his own first rounder to you, FWF.
BTW, our constitution currently says any triggered protections on a 1st round pick require immediate payment of a 2nd, and that any team that has traded a protected 1st cannot also trade its 2nd rounder. I think that should be amended to the proposals now on the table.
We also need to resolve the following:
1. number of league votes required for change to league rules
2. number of league votes required to overturn/veto trades
What's the current standard for #1, and what are the proposed alternatives?
I'm fine with #2 staying the way it is, because I think it's a fair bar and because it'd be a lot more work to do it outside of the Yahoo system.
Constitution calls for a majority for #1. I guess that's a little ambiguous. Not sure whether we need simple majority of GMs in the league, or of votes cast. I think we need a majority of GMs.
Constitution calls for Yahoo! league settings for #2, which is 1/3 of the league, or 7 votes.
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I have no problem with the veto currently being 7 votes.
I also don't have a problem with it being increased to a majority, but only if ever owner makes a vote.
What happens in the instance where we increase the veto # to 10 votes but only 7 out of 9 managers make a vote. That certainly is a majority of those who voted, but if the veto # was increased would mean the trade stands.
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I have no problem with the veto currently being 7 votes.
I also don't have a problem with it being increased to a majority, but only if ever owner makes a vote.
What happens in the instance where we increase the veto # to 10 votes but only 7 out of 9 managers make a vote. That certainly is a majority of those who voted, but if the veto # was increased would mean the trade stands.
By not casting a vote, isn't a manager in fact casting a vote to abstain? And if that is the case shouldn't the majority of 10 votes still be needed no matter what?
I don't know the answers to these questions but I think they should be considered. I mean if a GM decides that he or she doesn't care one way or another and doesn't vote, I think abstaining is in fact a vote.
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I have no problem with the veto currently being 7 votes.
I also don't have a problem with it being increased to a majority, but only if ever owner makes a vote.
What happens in the instance where we increase the veto # to 10 votes but only 7 out of 9 managers make a vote. That certainly is a majority of those who voted, but if the veto # was increased would mean the trade stands.
Part of the reason why I want to keep Yahoo! settings. I don't want to have to wait to collect votes from everyone for every trade.
To me, 7 votes in a 24-hour trade review window doesn't seem like setting the bar especially low. Considering some GMs log on once or twice a week, those 7 votes might actually represent something closer to half of the GMs not directly involved in the trade.
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Marvin Williams, Carl Landry, Nick Young, Pyscho T, Alonzo Gee are available..like to find a center
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And while you can't trade the right to swap, you can still trade your own 1st with the right to swap attached, right?
Example: Last year TWW had swap rights with Webskins. I traded for WW's pick, so the right to swap transferred with that, right? (it was moot for me because I also already had Webskins' 1st).
Actually, this scenario is what I'm trying to cut down on. The above example is simple enough to track; it's the nth commutation of the right to swap picks that drove me nuts last year.
So, by our new rules, TWW would have had to relinquish the right to swap picks with Webskins before trading his own first rounder to you, FWF.
I don't like this then - I like not being able to stack multiple swap rights like we had with some 2nd rounders last year. But if one right-to-swap is attached to a pick I don't see any reason why it can't be traded with the rights to the original pick.
Multiple swaps get really confusing really fast but limiting it to a single swap that stays attached to the pick doesn't seem difficult at all.
BTW, our constitution currently says any triggered protections on a 1st round pick require immediate payment of a 2nd, and that any team that has traded a protected 1st cannot also trade its 2nd rounder. I think that should be amended to the proposals now on the table.
I support this, and all the other stuff on the table, including keeping rule changes to a simple majority and vetos to 1/3rd
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I'm not really in favor of changing any of the trade rules. While the goal is ease in keeping track of transactions, I think that a spreadsheet tracking pick movement can keep track of everything.
My concern is that it punishes active / creative GMs. A team might never be able to acquire a top-3 pick by trading one of its own players. However, it might be able to work up the first round "ladder" by executing a number of potential pick swaps. Why punish those teams / GMs? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
In terms of protections of second rounders, I would agree that some of the more whacky restrictions can get confusing (i.e., "you get this pick unless it's #40", or something like that). However, I do think there's value in protecting some of the higher #2s, that can have some real value.
As for protected #1s, I don't think we should allow trading of future #1s that fall more than 1 year in the future, even on a contingency basis. That's been a pretty bright line rule in the past, and I think we should hold to it. If a replacement GM has to take over for another team, it's going to suck finding out that his pick in the next draft has already been leveraged.
As for changes to league rules and vetos, I think they should both require a majority vote. If people wanted to do a majority vote of a certain quorom of GMs (say, 10 or 11), that would be fine with me.
I think with vetoes, we do need to be cognizant of last year's fiasco. Does *anybody* think that was an unfair trade in hindsight? KG + Odom + Artest + #4 for Curry + late-1st?
No, that trade shouldn't have been vetoed. However, because a minority of GMs were biased and/or poor at evaluating the deal, two willing GMs were denied a trade they each wanted to make, all kinds of drama ensued, and one GM left the league permanently.
I just don't think that 7 GMs should be in charge of that type of thing.
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A team might never be able to acquire a top-3 pick by trading one of its own players. However, it might be able to work up the first round "ladder" by executing a number of potential pick swaps. Why punish those teams / GMs? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Well, I suppose anything is possible. It became extremely tiresome/frustrating trying to disentangle some of the trades from last year. I don't see the need to get so Byzantine about trading mid-to-late 2nd rounders.
In terms of protections of second rounders, I would agree that some of the more whacky restrictions can get confusing (i.e., "you get this pick unless it's #40", or something like that). However, I do think there's value in protecting some of the higher #2s, that can have some real value.
I agree that a high 2nd rounder can have some value. But if protection on a 2nd were to be triggered, what would the owed team then receive instead? A worse 2nd? Nothing? Or would something be rolled over to the following year (and if so, what might that be)? I'm hoping to simplify things and to make trade evaluations easier for the rest of the league. Something to consider, though.
As for protected #1s, I don't think we should allow trading of future #1s that fall more than 1 year in the future, even on a contingency basis. That's been a pretty bright line rule in the past, and I think we should hold to it. If a replacement GM has to take over for another team, it's going to suck finding out that his pick in the next draft has already been leveraged.
Agreed. This is why I settled on limiting protections on 1st rounders to top-3. I want "payment" of a pick to happen during the current season, or the following at the latest. If people want to make a case for alternate/flexible levels of protection on 1sts, I suppose that's doable, so long as protections last for one year, max.
As for changes to league rules and vetos, I think they should both require a majority vote. If people wanted to do a majority vote of a certain quorom of GMs (say, 10 or 11), that would be fine with me.
I think with vetoes, we do need to be cognizant of last year's fiasco. Does *anybody* think that was an unfair trade in hindsight? KG + Odom + Artest + #4 for Curry + late-1st?
No, that trade shouldn't have been vetoed. However, because a minority of GMs were biased and/or poor at evaluating the deal, two willing GMs were denied a trade they each wanted to make, all kinds of drama ensued, and one GM left the league permanently.
I just don't think that 7 GMs should be in charge of that type of thing.
Speaking as one who vetoed the deal, looking back from right now, perhaps I was wrong in my evaluation. From where I was at the time, I thought it was a poor return on a player that Edgar had publicly championed as a cornerstone given the performance of Odom and Artest, and the uncertainty of KG's future. [I can't remember where that pick was tracking either, but I knew it was outside of the top 2 in a draft that was being touted as Anthony Davis and nothing else.]
Regardless, the veto was enacted within the established league protocols at the time. If we want to change veto decision to a majority, and move trades to Commissioner approval only, then we can vote on it. Perhaps it's time to start posting polls.
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By not casting a vote, isn't a manager in fact casting a vote to abstain?
So what you're saying is, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice?
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BTW Birdman and I have an unofficial trade to announce, pending commish and league approval:
Rusted Rims send:
Andrew Nicholson
Michael J Dunleavy Jr
Wes Johnson
Quincy Miller
Birdman sends:
DJ Augustin
Chandler Parsons
Right to swap 2013 1sts
Sad to see Nicholson go but I wanted another PG and I'm intrigued by Parsons.
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BTW Birdman and I have an unofficial trade to announce, pending commish and league approval:
Rusted Rims send:
Andrew Nicholson
Michael J Dunleavy Jr
Wes Johnson
Quincy Miller
Birdman sends:
DJ Augustin
Chandler Parsons
Right to swap 2013 1sts
Sad to see Nicholson go but I wanted another PG and I'm intrigued by Parsons.
Thanks again Rusted Rims for the trade..Really didnt want to give up Augustin but I have 3 more PGs. Really wanted Nicholson. Think playing on a bad team, he should get some minutes and may turn out to be one of the top picks in this year draft. Wesley Johnson may be a bust or steal. Playing in Phoenix should turn his career around but time will tell. Dunleavy may play some IF he stays healthy. Miller is unknown.
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By not casting a vote, isn't a manager in fact casting a vote to abstain?
So what you're saying is, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice?
Well, I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose free will.
I'll update the rosters and trade log with the trade this weekend.
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If anyone is interested, I have these players on the market
Marvin Williams
Nick Young
Alonzo Gee
Mike Dunleavy
Carl Landry
Psycho T
so let me know if u interested..like to find a center
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By not casting a vote, isn't a manager in fact casting a vote to abstain?
So what you're saying is, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice?
Well, I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose free will.
I'll update the rosters and trade log with the trade this weekend.
The reason I bring this up is because I have seen it in a fantasy football league I belonged to. 12 GMs with a majority of votes needed to veto, but the rule was votes cast. That year there were like 4 great teams in the league and 6 downright awful teams. A trade happened between a great team and the one mediocre team and the three other great teams wanted it vetoed. When the voting occurred the 6 bad teams didn't vote and because of that in a three to three vote the veto was granted.
3 teams or 25% of the league was able to overturn the trade.
All the GMs were very active but when asked why they didn't vote they each answered, almost to a man, that they didn't care if the trade went through or not because it didn't effect them one way or the other. So they didn't vote.
The next year the rule was changed to majority of the number of teams in the league, or 6 votes, to do the veto. We has decided that by abstaining, you are actually voting.
BTW this was a keep 2 league so there was some continuity long term of teams though most rosters did turn over every year. Just saying to give full disclosure.
Devil's advocate, that was a $200 pay in league so it was easier to sell to people that abstaining is a vote because money was on the line. Once explained that the same thing could happen to then the next year, when they had a chance at winning some money, people saw things differently.
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By not casting a vote, isn't a manager in fact casting a vote to abstain?
So what you're saying is, if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice?
Well, I will choose a path that's clear. I will choose free will.
I'll update the rosters and trade log with the trade this weekend.
The reason I bring this up is because I have seen it in a fantasy football league I belonged to. 12 GMs with a majority of votes needed to veto, but the rule was votes cast. That year there were like 4 great teams in the league and 6 downright awful teams. A trade happened between a great team and the one mediocre team and the three other great teams wanted it vetoed. When the voting occurred the 6 bad teams didn't vote and because of that in a three to three vote the veto was granted.
3 teams or 25% of the league was able to overturn the trade.
All the GMs were very active but when asked why they didn't vote they each answered, almost to a man, that they didn't care if the trade went through or not because it didn't effect them one way or the other. So they didn't vote.
The next year the rule was changed to majority of the number of teams in the league, or 6 votes, to do the veto. We has decided that by abstaining, you are actually voting.
BTW this was a keep 2 league so there was some continuity long term of teams though most rosters did turn over every year. Just saying to give full disclosure.
Devil's advocate, that was a $200 pay in league so it was easier to sell to people that abstaining is a vote because money was on the line. Once explained that the same thing could happen to then the next year, when they had a chance at winning some money, people saw things differently.
I like the current veto rule. Often times I'll go a week without checking my team (setting the roster in advance). If a trade pops up during then, I may not get the chance to vote on it. That doesn't mean that I'm choosing to abstain, just that I didn't see the trade. I think some other managers might run the same way.
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nick, that kind of scenario is precisely what I do not want.
I think vetoes and rule changes should hinge upon greater input from the league, not lesser.
I've just set up a poll in the league to ask what's required for a rule change. Will leave it up until I get 20 votes (assuming jgod signs up soon; where is he?).
After that's settled, we'll determine veto procedure, draft pick protections and trade eligibility, etc.
I call everyone's attention to the league "constitution": there are some items I know we need to review, but there may be others that need addressing.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UbfNv4DLkTd7UL98lvPQPNIrJsM8e4wjVln_-bT-37w/edit
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I think vetoes and rule changes should hinge upon greater input from the league, not lesser.
Amen to that. Allowing 35% of the league to dictate policy and to screw over consenting GMs is just a terrible idea.
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The god is in. My blunder. Let's play some ball!
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nick, that kind of scenario is precisely what I do not want.
I think vetoes and rule changes should hinge upon greater input from the league, not lesser.
Well that's kind of the point I was trying to make. Roy and I have both brought up that we think a minority of owners effecting what is best for the league is not a good thing and have proposed a majority vote.
Others state that if it is a majority vote, should it be majority of votes cast. My point was that still introduces the possibility of a minority being able to control things and so if it does go to majority, then it should be majority(10 votes) and never majority of votes cast.
Regarding what Champ brought up, if there are many owners that check in just once a week, why not make trade approvals one week long if they are deemed to be brought to veto. Make it a two day approval on any trade not brought up for veto but a seven day approval for any trade brought to veto so that everyone gets to see the trade and can receive an email alerting them there is a veto vote.
If a trade is so contentious as to be brought to veto, who cares if it takes a week to get it approved, that isn't going to have a significant impact on a full season of games.
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nick, that kind of scenario is precisely what I do not want.
I think vetoes and rule changes should hinge upon greater input from the league, not lesser.
Well that's kind of the point I was trying to make. Roy and I have both brought up that we think a minority of owners effecting what is best for the league is not a good thing and have proposed a majority vote.
Others state that if it is a majority vote, should it be majority of votes cast. My point was that still introduces the possibility of a minority being able to control things and so if it does go to majority, then it should be majority(10 votes) and never majority of votes cast.
Regarding what Champ brought up, if there are many owners that check in just once a week, why not make trade approvals one week long if they are deemed to be brought to veto. Make it a two day approval on any trade not brought up for veto but a seven day approval for any trade brought to veto so that everyone gets to see the trade and can receive an email alerting them there is a veto vote.
If a trade is so contentious as to be brought to veto, who cares if it takes a week to get it approved, that isn't going to have a significant impact on a full season of games.
I think that all makes sense. I'd also note that all pending trades are sent out to the entire league via email, so it's not necessarily a matter of "checking in". If you check your email regularly, you should have plenty of notice of any trades being submitted.
I'd also note that the original rules of this league, which we played under for years, required majority vote for a veto. They were changed half by fiat, half by mistake, but certainly never by knowing consent.
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nick, that kind of scenario is precisely what I do not want.
I think vetoes and rule changes should hinge upon greater input from the league, not lesser.
Well that's kind of the point I was trying to make. Roy and I have both brought up that we think a minority of owners effecting what is best for the league is not a good thing and have proposed a majority vote.
Others state that if it is a majority vote, should it be majority of votes cast. My point was that still introduces the possibility of a minority being able to control things and so if it does go to majority, then it should be majority(10 votes) and never majority of votes cast.
Regarding what Champ brought up, if there are many owners that check in just once a week, why not make trade approvals one week long if they are deemed to be brought to veto. Make it a two day approval on any trade not brought up for veto but a seven day approval for any trade brought to veto so that everyone gets to see the trade and can receive an email alerting them there is a veto vote.
If a trade is so contentious as to be brought to veto, who cares if it takes a week to get it approved, that isn't going to have a significant impact on a full season of games.
I feel the onus should be on respondent GMs to veto a deal, not for the league as a whole to approve them.
7 vetoes out of the GMs who respond to a deal, to me, still seems like a high bar. Participating GMs will not veto a deal, so that's 7 out of 18 league votes required for veto, and that assumes all 18 GMs have checked in during the 24-hour window. As Champ mentions, that's not necessarily going to be the case. The veto process could in fact come down to 7 of as few as 9 or 10 GMs who have seen the deal and responded.
Keeping Yahoo! league settings at 1/3 allows for me to let the trade review process take its course, instead of having to shepherd each one through, so that's another reason why I'm reluctant to go back to Commissioner Review for trades.
As for sending out trade announcements, GMs can already opt-in to receive those under "Email Preferences."
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As much as folks don't want to relive the past, I do think it's important to learn from it.
Does *anybody* think the following trade is worthy of a veto?
KG + Odom + Artest + Bradley Beal for Steph Curry + Kendall Marshall?
I'm not asking if it's 100% even. I'm asking if anybody sees that trade as so terrible that it should be vetoed?
To me, it was clear at the time that it shouldn't have been vetoed, and it's even more clear now. However, when you let 35% of the league dictate what deals go through, that's what you end up with.
So, to all the vetoers... are you man enough to admit you made a mistake? And what's to prevent that mistake from happening again?
We ended up losing a good GM because of this crap, and caused permanent fractures in the league. You guys really want to do it all again?
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As much as folks don't want to relive the past, I do think it's important to learn from it.
Does *anybody* think the following trade is worthy of a veto?
KG + Odom + Artest + Bradley Beal for Steph Curry + Kendall Marshall?
I'm not asking if it's 100% even. I'm asking if anybody sees that trade as so terrible that it should be vetoed?
To me, it was clear at the time that it shouldn't have been vetoed, and it's even more clear now. However, when you let 35% of the league dictate what deals go through, that's what you end up with.
So, to all the vetoers... are you man enough to admit you made a mistake? And what's to prevent that mistake from happening again?
We ended up losing a good GM because of this crap, and caused permanent fractures in the league. You guys really want to do it all again?
You're assuming it was only 7 of 18 who voted, Roy. It was 7 of the first to respond within 24 hours. That was a pretty instant and strong reaction, right or wrong.
There was also an opportunity to revisit the trade, and that too was vetoed.
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As much as folks don't want to relive the past, I do think it's important to learn from it.
Does *anybody* think the following trade is worthy of a veto?
KG + Odom + Artest + Bradley Beal for Steph Curry + Kendall Marshall?
I'm not asking if it's 100% even. I'm asking if anybody sees that trade as so terrible that it should be vetoed?
To me, it was clear at the time that it shouldn't have been vetoed, and it's even more clear now. However, when you let 35% of the league dictate what deals go through, that's what you end up with.
So, to all the vetoers... are you man enough to admit you made a mistake? And what's to prevent that mistake from happening again?
We ended up losing a good GM because of this crap, and caused permanent fractures in the league. You guys really want to do it all again?
You're assuming it was only 7 of 18 who voted, Roy. It was 7 of the first to respond within 24 hours. That was a pretty instant and strong reaction, right or wrong.
There was also an opportunity to revisit the trade, and that too was vetoed.
Vetoed by a minority of the league. Plenty of people spoke in support of the trade, too, but it was the minority that won out. At least a couple of those members mentioned publicly and privately that they vetoed the trade out of personal animosity.
Again, I'd like to hear somebody explain why that deal was so unfair that it should have been vetoed. In hindsight, we can all agree that that trade was even, if not better for Edgar.
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Edgar publicly championed Curry as a cornerstone of his team (aka, virtually untouchable). In exchange for Curry and a 1st rounder, Edgar received Lamar Odom (mired in an absolutely dreadful year), a Kevin Garnett who was playing on the final year of his contract and rumored to be retiring, Metta World Peace (who hurts in about as many categories as he helps in), and a lottery pick in a draft headlined by Anthony Davis and a bunch of also-rans, according to most draftniks.
That was the way I saw it at the time. If Edgar had taken back some younger prospects instead of MWP or Odom and/or kept his own first, I might have felt better about the deal. At the time, it just made little sense to me.
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Heated discussions of a 10 month old veto'd fantasy league trade warms the cockles of my heart.
Mk
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Edgar publicly championed Curry as a cornerstone of his team (aka, virtually untouchable). In exchange for Curry and a 1st rounder, Edgar received Lamar Odom (mired in an absolutely dreadful year), a Kevin Garnett who was playing on the final year of his contract and rumored to be retiring, Metta World Peace (who hurts in about as many categories as he helps in), and a lottery pick in a draft headlined by Anthony Davis and a bunch of also-rans, according to most draftniks.
That was the way I saw it at the time. If Edgar had taken back some younger prospects instead of MWP or Odom and/or kept his own first, I might have felt better about the deal. At the time, it just made little sense to me.
... and in hindsight, you were absolutely wrong. It happens, but hopefully it's a cautionary tale about the use of vetoes.
KG continued to have a great year. Bradley Beal looks like a stud. Lamar Odom should thrive in LA. Stepehn Curry missed the vast majority of the season, and currently isn't among the top-40 fantasy players as determined by Yahoo. One player he ranks behind? Kevin Garnett.
I don't want to re-do the trade; that would be ridiculously stupid on the part of nick and I, as we dodged a major bullet. However, I do want people to actually think about our veto system, rather than reflexively voting for something that is obviously flawed.
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You're assuming it was only 7 of 18 who voted. It was 7 of the first to respond within 24 hours. That was a pretty instant and strong reaction, right or wrong.
This is a good point. The system stopped counting at 7, and it got there awfully fast. No way to say it wouldn't have gotten to a higher number. And, I don't even think there's a way to vote for not vetoing a deal.
Heated discussions of a 10 month old veto'd fantasy league trade warms the cockles of my heart.
Mk
This is a better point. I hate to be a cockle-blocker but we're now beating the chalk outline where the dead horse used to be.
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When Roy first approached me as being a co-GM I asked why. He explained some personal things to me and then said that his feelings were caused by a vetoed trade and told me the details of the trade.
As an outsider looking in, my first reaction was that I might be able to understand that the trade was vetoed because Roy's team was giving up too much for Curry, a player I consider a top 10 PG in the league but probably not a top 40 player.
Then he told me it was vetoed because the other GMs felt he was getting the best of the deal.
That surprised the heck out of me.
A top 25 player in the league.
2 under performing vets.
And a possible top 2-4 pick in one of the deepest drafts since the LeBron/Wade/Bosh/Darko/Melo drafts
for
A top 10 PG/but not a top 40 player
And a mid to late first round pick in that same draft where most considered the cut off for potential star players was at about the 10th pick.
That was my thinking when first explained to me.
Also, I have been in many fantasy football leagues and one fantasy basketball league, never been in one where a minority of owners could veto a trade. Now all but a couple of those were $50-200 buy in leagues so with money being involved people wanted stricter restrictions for vetoes because it could bite them in the ass in later years or later in the year and cost them money.
Now I am new here and just a co-GM but I think this is something that should be seriously considered by all objectively.
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... and in hindsight, you were absolutely wrong. It happens, but hopefully it's a cautionary tale about the use of vetoes.
Yep. Hindsight is 20-20. Of course, everything you just said could also prove wrong this season, Roy. [Also, had he stayed, Edgar might well have chosen Dion Waiters or Austin Rivers at #4.]
Personally, I don't think the process is flawed or broken. I don't regret my vote. At the time, it looked like a horrible return on a young star. I'd hoped resending the soup back to the kitchen might allow the cooks to spice it up a bit more to my liking, but that didn't happen either.
I do agree that the process resulted in some poor behavior on the part of some GMs, though. That I do regret.
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Heated discussions of a 10 month old veto'd fantasy league trade warms the cockles of my heart.
Mk
This is a better point. I hate to be a cockle-blocker but we're now beating the chalk outline where the dead horse used to be.
So be it. I'm going to continue to beat the skeletal remains of that steed so long as we have bad rules in place.
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Heated discussions of a 10 month old veto'd fantasy league trade warms the cockles of my heart.
Mk
This is a better point. I hate to be a cockle-blocker but we're now beating the chalk outline where the dead horse used to be.
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/200H/i/2012/122/8/7/zombie_horse_by_ickydog-d4yboji.jpg)
We have two weeks until roster cut downs. How else are we going to pass the time?
In honor of Season 3 of the Walking Dead, I say we beat this zombie horse for a good two more weeks.
Mk
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I have very little interest in wading into the veto discussion, because it is clear that there are opinions on either side and this many months along, those lines are not any more blurred.
But is it possible, regardless of what is chosen, to have trades "pending" for longer then 24 hours. There is no real reason (that I can think of) to have it be that quick, and having a longer time, I dont know, 48 hours, at least gives an owner who has something come up time to actually review and decide before the trade has already gone through?
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I have very little interest in wading into the veto discussion, because it is clear that there are opinions on either side and this many months along, those lines are not any more blurred.
But is it possible, regardless of what is chosen, to have trades "pending" for longer then 24 hours. There is no real reason (that I can think of) to have it be that quick, and having a longer time, I dont know, 48 hours, at least gives an owner who has something come up time to actually review and decide before the trade has already gone through?
A 48-hour window is a possible league setting, yes.
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Heated discussions of a 10 month old veto'd fantasy league trade warms the cockles of my heart.
Mk
This is a better point. I hate to be a cockle-blocker but we're now beating the chalk outline where the dead horse used to be.
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs71/200H/i/2012/122/8/7/zombie_horse_by_ickydog-d4yboji.jpg)
We have two weeks until roster cut downs. How else are we going to pass the time?
In honor of Season 3 of the Walking Dead, I say we beat this zombie horse for a good two more weeks.
Mk
I mostly just wanted to say "cockle-blocker" :)
A 48-hour window is a possible league setting, yes.
I'd support this - it would help reduce the problem of owners not seeing deals before they've passed. I don't know about anybody else but my Yahoo emails are sent to a secondary email that I don't use for many other things. If I'm busy I'm not likely to check it daily.
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I have very little interest in wading into the veto discussion, because it is clear that there are opinions on either side and this many months along, those lines are not any more blurred.
But is it possible, regardless of what is chosen, to have trades "pending" for longer then 24 hours. There is no real reason (that I can think of) to have it be that quick, and having a longer time, I dont know, 48 hours, at least gives an owner who has something come up time to actually review and decide before the trade has already gone through?
A 48-hour window is a possible league setting, yes.
I don't like messing around with the trade rules, if only because it makes it harder to complete multiple trades around the trade deadline.
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I have very little interest in wading into the veto discussion, because it is clear that there are opinions on either side and this many months along, those lines are not any more blurred.
But is it possible, regardless of what is chosen, to have trades "pending" for longer then 24 hours. There is no real reason (that I can think of) to have it be that quick, and having a longer time, I dont know, 48 hours, at least gives an owner who has something come up time to actually review and decide before the trade has already gone through?
A 48-hour window is a possible league setting, yes.
I don't like messing around with the trade rules, if only because it makes it harder to complete multiple trades around the trade deadline.
Yeah, I agree. To me, the extra 24 hours makes for a really long time before teams are able to put new players into their lineups. As much as 4 days.
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I mostly just wanted to say "cockle-blocker" :)
I did give u a well deserved TP for that one!
Mk
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Okay lets get down to business!! Cut down day is coming and almost all of us have to get down to 16...so lets talk trade!! Heres my available.
Marvin Williams
Nick Young
Alonzo Geee
Mike Dunleavy
Carl Landry
Psycho T
Quincy Miller
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Now I am new here and just a co-GM but I think this is something that should be seriously considered by all objectively.
Sure, but you first.
2 under performing vets.
That's some nice English on the ball, Nick. Lamar Odom was in the midst of the worst follow up season by an NBA sixth man ever. He returned 322nd value, meaning he wasn't even worth carrying on a roster last season. He got waived mid-year. (Let's keep in mind Edgar's goal in dealing an injured 23-year-old Curry was to make a playoff push.) Streaming D-League calls up would've earned any GM more wins. I'm guessing, it was too tough for Roy to stomach cutting him, but it was a mistake not to. One of couple of missteps that cost you two the title.
Metta World Peace ranked 163. Okay, you could make the argument that he was roster worthy, and had some spot start value. But take a closer look. He offered above average value in exactly one category - steals. Meanwhile he and Lamar shot a combined 37.6 FG% and 60.6 FT%. Punt two categories for one? Not a good strategy.
And a possible top 2-4 pick in one of the deepest drafts since the LeBron/Wade/Bosh/Darko/Melo drafts.
As long as you ignore the fact, that the potential lottery pick was Edgar's own, which he'd dealt to Roy for Delonte West, oft-injured, borderline NBA starter, who Roy was preparing to cut. (So maybe Roy shouldn't be so disappointed, since he got the acutally indefensible trade over on Edgar.) And again, Edgar's motivation was to make the playoffs. Pushing the team out of the 2-4 range that you're now trying to use to justify the vetoed deal and into the middle of the round?
And a mid to late first round pick in that same draft where most considered the cut off for potential star players was at about the 10th pick.
That's having your cake and eating it too.
A top 10 PG/but not a top 40 player
In fantasy, Curry ranked in the top 20 in both 2009-10 and 10-11. Let's bet the naming rights to our respective teams in 2013-14 on Curry finishing in the top 40 this season?
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I have very little interest in wading into the veto discussion, because it is clear that there are opinions on either side and this many months along, those lines are not any more blurred.
But is it possible, regardless of what is chosen, to have trades "pending" for longer then 24 hours. There is no real reason (that I can think of) to have it be that quick, and having a longer time, I dont know, 48 hours, at least gives an owner who has something come up time to actually review and decide before the trade has already gone through?
I agree with YH. I'd much rather have 48 hours to review. I don't log in every day, I'm guessing that many of the guys don't, and I'm bummed out when trades slip past me.
(Even though I've never voted for a veto before. I'm leaning towards using the veto a lot this year if only to have more to talk about on the forums.)
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So be it. I'm going to continue to beat the skeletal remains of that steed so long as we have bad rules in place.
In that same spirit can I convince anybody to bring back unlimited playoff roster moves?
Less tongue in cheek - I've long held that the philosophy of allowing any and every trade, short of collusion, is bad for the long term health of the dynasty league. (I also predicted we'd have a backlash veto at some point...)
I'd be all in favor of replacing the current veto system with more rigid trade rules.
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
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BTW Birdman and I have an unofficial trade to announce, pending commish and league approval:
Rusted Rims send:
Andrew Nicholson
Michael J Dunleavy Jr
Wes Johnson
Quincy Miller
Birdman sends:
DJ Augustin
Chandler Parsons
Right to swap 2013 1sts
Sad to see Nicholson go but I wanted another PG and I'm intrigued by Parsons.
I'm jealous that THE FWF is pulling off so many deals/continuing to add players I covet. He picks up the only starter in the deal, as well as the always valuable 1st round swap rights, for a handful of bench guys he didn't have roster space for.
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
As somebody without a single legitimate pg on their team I say poo on that rule change
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Well, I've got 4 too many players on my roster. Here's who I'm looking to trade:
Kyle Lowry
Devin Harris
Jarrett Jack
DeMar DeRozan
Wilson Chandler
Luis Scola
Jamal Crawford
Jodie Meeks
Martell Webster
Boris Diaw
Jason Thompson
Marquis Teague
Doron Lamb
Jae Crowder
Lamb, Crowder, Meeks, Webster are the most available.
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Now I am new here and just a co-GM but I think this is something that should be seriously considered by all objectively.
Sure, but you first.
2 under performing vets.
That's some nice English on the ball, Nick. Lamar Odom was in the midst of the worst follow up season by an NBA sixth man ever. He returned 322nd value, meaning he wasn't even worth carrying on a roster last season. He got waived mid-year. (Let's keep in mind Edgar's goal in dealing an injured 23-year-old Curry was to make a playoff push.) Streaming D-League calls up would've earned any GM more wins. I'm guessing, it was too tough for Roy to stomach cutting him, but it was a mistake not to. One of couple of missteps that cost you two the title.
Metta World Peace ranked 163. Okay, you could make the argument that he was roster worthy, and had some spot start value. But take a closer look. He offered above average value in exactly one category - steals. Meanwhile he and Lamar shot a combined 37.6 FG% and 60.6 FT%. Punt two categories for one? Not a good strategy.
And a possible top 2-4 pick in one of the deepest drafts since the LeBron/Wade/Bosh/Darko/Melo drafts.
As long as you ignore the fact, that the potential lottery pick was Edgar's own, which he'd dealt to Roy for Delonte West, oft-injured, borderline NBA starter, who Roy was preparing to cut. (So maybe Roy shouldn't be so disappointed, since he got the acutally indefensible trade over on Edgar.) And again, Edgar's motivation was to make the playoffs. Pushing the team out of the 2-4 range that you're now trying to use to justify the vetoed deal and into the middle of the round?
And a mid to late first round pick in that same draft where most considered the cut off for potential star players was at about the 10th pick.
That's having your cake and eating it too.
A top 10 PG/but not a top 40 player
In fantasy, Curry ranked in the top 20 in both 2009-10 and 10-11. Let's bet the naming rights to our respective teams in 2013-14 on Curry finishing in the top 40 this season?
Did you miss the part where I said that was my initial reaction?
It was my objective initial reaction. If anything I thought Roy was getting the worse of the trade. Know this, I did not know at the time it was a keeper league or how the mechanics of the H2H format or player scoring was kept. As I have admitted, I have only ever been in one fantasy basketball league before so my reaction was from my knowledge of the players as players not fantasy players.
And I still say Curry isn't even as good as KG never mind all those other parts, fantasy or not.
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And I still say Curry isn't even as good as KG never mind all those other parts, fantasy or not.
Yeah, if I could have one guy for the next two years, I'm definitely going with KG. Throw in Odom (who should have a resurgence) and Bradley Beal, and it's sort of a no-brainer at this point.
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In hindsight, I should have voted against that initial Delonte West trade at the time. I didn't like the smell of it then, but I kept my mouth shut. I wonder if we'd be here now otherwise.
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In hindsight, I should have voted against that initial Delonte West trade at the time. I didn't like the smell of it then, but I kept my mouth shut. I wonder if we'd be here now otherwise.
Edgar had finished 10th the year before. I don't remember where MK finished, but it was reasonable at the time to think that Edgar was going to be dropping back a handful of spots for a play who he coveted, and who puts up a solid 10 points with high efficiency levels.
That's not the type of deal that should be vetoed, either. It's certainly not worse than Luke Babbitt for a 1st rounder, or some of the other deals we've seen in recent years. At least Delonte is still in the league, contributing.
I have absolutely no idea what the criteria being advocated for a veto is, other than "If Roy and nick's team pulls off a trade, it should be / should have been vetoed".
Roy shouldn't be so disappointed, since he got the acutally indefensible trade over on Edgar.
Well, it was certainly defensible, but in hindsight I agree that it turned out to be a much worse deal than the one that did get vetoed.
Getting in a few more kicks to our deceased equine, my biggest problem with the veto is that there are absolutely no standards that people are asked to follow. Traditionally, it was "no collusion". Now, it's what? "Keep the best team from getting better"?
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
While the rule could conceivably help our team, I'd object to any changing of categories at this point, just because people have spent years crafting their teams to certain expectations. (Well, at least in theory.)
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
While the rule could conceivably help our team, I'd object to any changing of categories at this point, just because people have spent years crafting their teams to certain expectations. (Well, at least in theory.)
Agree. We can't change things now.
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
While the rule could conceivably help our team, I'd object to any changing of categories at this point, just because people have spent years crafting their teams to certain expectations. (Well, at least in theory.)
Agree. We can't change things now.
A rare blake appearance! Check PMs.
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So as long as we're talking trades, is my trade with Birdman official? It never got formally announced here but it's been up and viewable for a few days.
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Luke Babbitt for a 1st rounder
Did I miss something? I can't find record of this.
The Rims-Birdman multiplayer deal from earlier this week is official.
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Luke Babbitt for a 1st rounder
Did I miss something? I can't find record of this.
Wasn't that from last year's draft? Wiggle traded Babbitt for a mid-1st, if I remember correctly.
I say, good for him. That shouldn't be a vetoable trade, either.
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nick and I are putting Amare, Deron, and D12 on the block, mostly because we're bored.
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nick and I are putting Amare, Deron, and D12 on the block, mostly because we're bored.
Come right and come strong. These aren't 14th-16th in the rotation bench players. They are stars.
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And I will listen to offers for Dwayne Wade.
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And the Utah Flash will listen to offers for Luke Babbit. If u make an offer, bring it strong or not at all!!!!
Mk
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Jodie Meeks and Kevin Seraphin could be yours. Come right and come strong - I don't know if you guys know a lot about basketball, but these guys are pretty good, you guys.
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*cough*
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Josh_jorts.jpg)
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Three-team trade scenario posted on ESPN Insider.
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Three-team trade scenario posted on ESPN Insider.
Nice idea, but while cutdown day is coming, I don't know if Wade's gonna be enough for Jorts.
This isn't some end of the bench guy, you guys - this is the guy who winds up sitting next to the bench because the mascot's hammertoe is acting up.
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And I still say Curry isn't even as good as KG never mind all those other parts, fantasy or not.
Great. So the bets on?
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That's not the type of deal that should be vetoed, either. It's certainly not worse than Luke Babbitt for a 1st rounder, or some of the other deals we've seen in recent years. At least Delonte is still in the league, contributing.
If we ignore actual results completely? Aka, just tell the people I was right, Roy.
Trade to announce:
Naturals trade Delonte West
Edgar trades right to swap 2012 1sts with Naturals (after Naturals exercise/decline right to swap 1sts with Utah Flash)
Delonte is a throw-in; he's not a rotation player anymore, and will probably end up cut. Right now, he's behind Kyle Singler on my roster.
I think it's time to discuss replacing Edgar.
Though I never said veto, just that you should take some consolation in having pulled off one heist on Edgar before he quit.
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Luke Babbitt for a 1st rounder
Did I miss something? I can't find record of this.
Wasn't that from last year's draft? Wiggle traded Babbitt for a mid-1st, if I remember correctly.
I say, good for him. That shouldn't be a vetoable trade, either.
Though I am pleased that Luke Babbitt and the 25th pick (Marcus Morris) for the 14th pick (Alec Burks) has gone into the book as my finest work.
It would've looked even better for me If the three guys drafting 11th, 12th, and 13th hadn't made back to back to back flawless picks.
Here's who I was hoping to get at 14 last fall.
Klay Thompson
Kawhi Leonard
Kenneth Faried
Here's how it went down:
11. Kane3387 Klay Thompson
12. Rondo2287 Kenneth Faried
13. Kwhit Kawhi Leonard
14. DraftDodgers Alex Burks
Fun fact, I accidentally reacquired Marcus Morris in the Caron Butler for Ray Allen deal that I made with the Webskins. My original target was again #11 pick Klay Thompson, but Kane somehow talked me down from Thompson, to a 2012 1st, to the worse Morris brother and the rights to swap 1sts.
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
While the rule could conceivably help our team, I'd object to any changing of categories at this point, just because people have spent years crafting their teams to certain expectations. (Well, at least in theory.)
Well, speaking as the guy who won the league first and last, I'm in year five of a one year plan.
Of course, I expected you'd oppose any change proposed by yours truly, but can we at least discuss the idea on its merits, as we've always done with your proposed rules changes? Some of which we've even passed, despite your stance now as a strict originalist.
Now let's recall that the league was drafted as an 11-cat points league without playoffs; that in our first year as a H2H league we had a six team playoff bracket with byes for the top two teams; that the league didn't cap roster moves in the playoffs until the third season, etc.
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looks like there will be some good players on the wavier wire after the cuts to 16..alot of GM has some tough choices to make like me
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
While the rule could conceivably help our team, I'd object to any changing of categories at this point, just because people have spent years crafting their teams to certain expectations. (Well, at least in theory.)
Well, speaking as the guy who won the league first and last, I'm in year five of a one year plan.
Of course, I expected you'd oppose any change proposed by yours truly, but can we at least discuss the idea on its merits, as we've always done with your proposed rules changes? Some of which we've even passed, despite your stance now as a strict originalist.
Now let's recall that the league was drafted as an 11-cat points league without playoffs; that in our first year as a H2H league we had a six team playoff bracket with byes for the top two teams; that the league didn't cap roster moves in the playoffs until the third season, etc.
I don't think there should be any change to the categories or to the roster slots, under any circumstances. I think those two things would have the potential to radically shift the league, which is something that I don't think would be fair.
As always, though, if 11 GMs disagree, I'd be fine with the change.
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I'VE got alot of forwards so if u need a couple, let me know. I need a center
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Okay, I'm just calling my own number again and again at this point...
A rules change to consider for 2013-14 - replace the TO category - a negative counting stat which is more often than not won by the losing team in any given match up - with the positive AST/TO ratio?
Might even more closely approximate player value, which is what I've come to prefer about counting FGM and FTM in addition to PTS.
While the rule could conceivably help our team, I'd object to any changing of categories at this point, just because people have spent years crafting their teams to certain expectations. (Well, at least in theory.)
Well, speaking as the guy who won the league first and last, I'm in year five of a one year plan.
Of course, I expected you'd oppose any change proposed by yours truly, but can we at least discuss the idea on its merits, as we've always done with your proposed rules changes? Some of which we've even passed, despite your stance now as a strict originalist.
Now let's recall that the league was drafted as an 11-cat points league without playoffs; that in our first year as a H2H league we had a six team playoff bracket with byes for the top two teams; that the league didn't cap roster moves in the playoffs until the third season, etc.
I don't think there should be any change to the categories or to the roster slots, under any circumstances. I think those two things would have the potential to radically shift the league, which is something that I don't think would be fair.
As always, though, if 11 GMs disagree, I'd be fine with the change.
Im nominating myself as leader of the player redistribution party. If elected by 10 other GM's I promise a rule change allowing the top 4 players from the championship team to be redistributed to the 4 teams in the lottery at random.
Remember success is only success if we all get a taste.
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For anybody who has the guts to place a bet on their team (or against ours), we'll trade our #1 for your #1, straight up.
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Though I never said veto, just that you should take some consolation in having pulled off one heist on Edgar before he quit.
Well, perhaps if Edgar had been allowed to shape his team as he wanted, rather than being stuck with the chronically injured Stephen Curry, the Crotors / Juggernauts wouldn't have finished as poorly as they did.
Edgar went from an 9th place finish the season before, to a bottom-4 performance last season. It was a mix of bad luck and a royal screw job; I don't think either were predictable.
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Luke Babbitt for a 1st rounder
Did I miss something? I can't find record of this.
Wasn't that from last year's draft? Wiggle traded Babbitt for a mid-1st, if I remember correctly.
I say, good for him. That shouldn't be a vetoable trade, either.
Though I am pleased that Luke Babbitt and the 25th pick (Marcus Morris) for the 14th pick (Alec Burks) has gone into the book as my finest work.
It would've looked even better for me If the three guys drafting 11th, 12th, and 13th hadn't made back to back to back flawless picks.
Here's who I was hoping to get at 14 last fall.
Klay Thompson
Kawhi Leonard
Kenneth Faried
Here's how it went down:
11. Kane3387 Klay Thompson
12. Rondo2287 Kenneth Faried
13. Kwhit Kawhi Leonard
14. DraftDodgers Alex Burks
Fun fact, I accidentally reacquired Marcus Morris in the Caron Butler for Ray Allen deal that I made with the Webskins. My original target was again #11 pick Klay Thompson, but Kane somehow talked me down from Thompson, to a 2012 1st, to the worse Morris brother and the rights to swap 1sts.
This sounds a lot like Sam Presti talking Danny down from James Harden to Jeff Green in the Perkins deal.
Props to Presti... I mean Kane!
Mk
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looks like there will be some good players on the wavier wire after the cuts to 16..alot of GM has some tough choices to make like me
(http://www.animated-images.com/animated_images/vultures/animierte-gifs-geier-003-animated-images.gif)
The waiver wire vultures are circling.
Mk
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Can somebody provide me the roster link and cut down date?
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Can somebody provide me the roster link and cut down date?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&pli=1#gid=0
I think cut-down date is October 15th.
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Can somebody provide me the roster link and cut down date?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&pli=1#gid=0
I think cut-down date is October 15th.
OK Sweet, don't have to make any cuts!
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Though I never said veto, just that you should take some consolation in having pulled off one heist on Edgar before he quit.
Well, perhaps if Edgar had been allowed to shape his team as he wanted, rather than being stuck with the chronically injured Stephen Curry, the Crotors / Juggernauts wouldn't have finished as poorly as they did.
Curry only missed 10 combined games in his first two seasons. Most people used to believe Curry's old teammate Monta was injury prone. He missed a large part of the 08/09 season, plus some of the next season b/c of his moped accident. However, that was just a blip on the Monta radar.
Curry may yet be 'classified' as injury-prone, but not yet. He is by no means Eric Gordon or Brandon Roy. He may easily play 75-80 games this season. And if he puts up his 18&6, the Juggs can keep him or trade him for KG or some other player that he likes.
Edgar went from an 9th place finish the season before, to a bottom-4 performance last season. It was a mix of bad luck and a royal screw job; I don't think either were predictable.
While a productive KG over a DNP Curry would have helped Edgar's team win a couple of more categories last season, his team was doomed to a bad finish regardless of the trade. Hamilton, Lewis, West, and Okafor all missed 20+ games and Haywood pulled a no show.
The real sad fact is that the Juggs are off to a bad start this season with Wall going down. That's a tough way to start, but hopefully Wall will return soon w/o further problems.
Mk
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For anybody who has the guts to place a bet on their team (or against ours), we'll trade our #1 for your #1, straight up.
Yeah, I already received that trade offer. But I got no response to my counter? If you and Nick want to bet team naming rights against Steph Curry finishing in the top 40 though, I'm still up for that.
I don't think there should be any change to the categories or to the roster slots, under any circumstances. I think those two things would have the potential to radically shift the league, which is something that I don't think would be fair.
As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits? Where's your spirit of adventure? I'm just in this to have fun - also long, heated debates about year old fantasy trades.
Typically the league's best players are the ones who commit the most turnovers. They're receiving the most minutes, handling the ball more, taking more shots. Using turnovers as a category punishes managers for having and starting better players. And just about the only workable strategy is to ignore the category, which isn't exactly punting - purposely drafting high turnover players.
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Fun fact, I accidentally reacquired Marcus Morris in the Caron Butler for Ray Allen deal that I made with the Webskins. My original target was again #11 pick Klay Thompson, but Kane somehow talked me down from Thompson, to a 2012 1st, to the worse Morris brother and the rights to swap 1sts.
This sounds a lot like Sam Presti talking Danny down from James Harden to Jeff Green in the Perkins deal.
Props to Presti... I mean Kane!
Mk
TP. Great comparison. And Kane does deserve credit. Guy had my head spinning.
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As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits?
We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though. Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional. Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure. Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.
As for your rejection of our trade proposal, I'll take that as an admission that you're scared. ;)
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As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits?
We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though. Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional. Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure. Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.
As for your rejection of our trade proposal, I'll take that as an admission that you're scared. ;)
If you still had brook lopez instead of D-12 I wouldnt be as scared
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As opposed to drafting as a points league and using those results in a H2H league? Should we bring back games played limits?
We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though. Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional. Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure. Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.
As for your rejection of our trade proposal, I'll take that as an admission that you're scared. ;)
If you still had brook lopez instead of D-12 I wouldnt be as scared
That would be Broke... I mean Brook Lopez AND James Harden instead of L4... I mean D12.
Mk
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We didn't change the points league to a H2H league, though. Rather, Lucky started a totally separate, new league, and made membership optional. Therefore, 100% of the league consented to the new structure. Nobody got screwed, which is what the concern is with changing roster slots or categories.
I'd agree with most of the above. I just wanted to acknowledge that nobody drafted their team around a H2H strategy. I'd also point out that every rules change since has consequences. If we'd never expanded the playoff field from 6 to 8, I'd have won a THIRD title in 2011. Instead you were able to, throw some match-ups, exploit the seeding and a late trade deadline to get your first win. I'd never thought of it this way before, but I guess we can agree I did get "screwed" by that one.
Capping playoff roster moves absolutely hurt me, since I'd always prioritized a deep starting 11 over my bench. But it's a rule change that you and some others felt had a lot of merit and would improve the league long term.
Do you see where I'm going? But if you prefer TOs as a category then let's discuss.
Here's my thinking, re: AST/TO to TO.
Typically the league's best players are the ones who commit the most turnovers. They're receiving the most minutes, handling the ball more, taking more shots. Using turnovers as a category punishes managers for having and starting better players. And just about the only workable strategy is to ignore the category, which isn't exactly punting - purposely drafting high turnover players.
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The players below are in danger of being waived by the Utah Flash. If you have some interest in any of them, please shoot me an offer or someone else may claim them.
Any reasonable deal will be accepted. Second rounders are preferred method of payment.
Kyle O'Quinn - Put a beat-down on Andre Drummond during Summer League play. Could start at C for Orlando.
Jon Leuer - The scrappy pf/c will earn his minutes behind the injury prone Varejao & inconsistent Tristan Thompson.
Nolan Smith - Will get backup minutes at both the pg and sg (now that Elliot William is out for the season) for Portland.
Mk
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as scintilating as all this back-and-forth has been...
Can i get Birdman or Rusted Rims to clarify just a bit here:
BTW Birdman and I have an unofficial trade to announce, pending commish and league approval:
Rusted Rims send:
Andrew Nicholson
Michael J Dunleavy Jr
Wes Johnson
Quincy Miller
Birdman sends:
DJ Augustin
Chandler Parsons
Right to swap 2013 1sts
Sad to see Nicholson go but I wanted another PG and I'm intrigued by Parsons.
Does Rusted Rims have the right to swap #1s with Birdman?
FWIW, this is how i read it-
(or does Birdman have the right to swap #1s with The Rims?)
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Birdman trades to the Rims the right to swap picks = Rims have the option of taking Birdman's 1st in exchange for the Rims'.
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i will take a draft pick for carl Landry or Psycho T..and maybe Mike Dunleavy..if u want any of these great players, send me an offer..thanks...or might do a 3 for 1 deal
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Okay folks, just got back from long day at work. I had 6 trade proposals which is great. So let me look them over and I will get back to each of u asap. Of course, Im looking for the best deal for myself in the long run, lol
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One week, one day, and 8 hours from now is the cut down deadline. Below are my players who are at the end of my roster. If you have any interest, hit me up. I am not overly attached of any of them and may just swap one with you, netting a player I intend to waive.
Don't be shy.
Luke Babbit
Terrence Williams
Kyle O'Quinn
Nolan Smith
*edit*
JaJuan Johnson
I have one more player to add to the list, but I am waiting for a trade (I sent Jon Leuer out) to be officially announced.
Mk
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Trade on the board:
Toine's Boys send Jajuan Johnson
Utah Flash send Jon Leuer
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The Utah Flash would like to welcome JaJuan Johnson to the team! JaJuan is on a camp invite. He hopes to make the 16 man regular season roster.
Good luck JJJ! Let's see something this preseason!
Mk
P.S. JJJ is on the block if anyone is interested.
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One week and 8 hours from now is the cut down deadline.
Clarification: Cut down day is Tuesday, Oct 16, at 5 PM Eastern time. I was initially under the false impression that the 16th is a Monday.
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One week and 8 hours from now is the cut down deadline.
Clarification: Cut down day is Tuesday, Oct 16, at 5 PM Eastern time. I was initially under the false impression that the 16th is a Monday.
What? We have a whole extra 24 extra hours???? I could cram an additional trade or three into that time. Sweet!
Maybe I should cut down on the coffee.
Mk
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I could use some of that coffee.
I've just posted the next poll, regarding the veto process. Please let me know if additional voting options should be considered:
A. Majority of league (11 or more).
B. One third of league (7 or more).
C. One third of votes cast.
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I could use some of that coffee.
I've just posted the next poll, regarding the veto process. Please let me know if additional voting options should be considered:
A. Majority of league (11 or more).
B. One third of league (7 or more).
C. One third of votes cast.
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Let them begin!!!!
Mk
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Since I won't be around for cut down date, here's my final roster.
The 2012-2013 Toine's Boys:
Eric Bledsoe
Goran Dragic
Iman Shumpert
Jerryd Bayless
Corey Brewer
Eric Maynor
Brook Lopez
Jon Leur
Blake Griffin
Spencer Hawes
Jeff Green
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
Festus Ezeli
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Since I won't be around for cut down date, here's my final roster.
The 2012-2013 Toine's Boys:
Eric Bledsoe
Goran Dragic
Iman Shumpert
Jerryd Bayless
Corey Brewer
Eric Maynor
Brook Lopez
Jon Leur
Blake Griffin
Spencer Hawes
Jeff Green
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
Festus Ezeli
This is a much better team than you had starting last season. Congrats!
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Since I won't be around for cut down date, here's my final roster.
The 2012-2013 Toine's Boys:
Eric Bledsoe
Goran Dragic
Iman Shumpert
Jerryd Bayless
Corey Brewer
Eric Maynor
Brook Lopez
Jon Leur
Blake Griffin
Spencer Hawes
Jeff Green
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
Festus Ezeli
This is a much better team than you had starting last season. Congrats!
Thanks Rondo, hopefully my team can be a little less of a doormat this season and maybe win a matchup or two.
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Since I won't be around for cut down date, here's my final roster.
The 2012-2013 Toine's Boys:
Eric Bledsoe
Goran Dragic
Iman Shumpert
Jerryd Bayless
Corey Brewer
Eric Maynor
Brook Lopez
Jon Leur
Blake Griffin
Spencer Hawes
Jeff Green
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
Festus Ezeli
Thanks, HP. A TP awarded to you for submitting the final roster.
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Our final roster:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Danilo Gallinari
Jared Dudley
Kevin Garnett
Carlos Boozer
Ryan Anderson
Dwight Howard
Jrue Holiday
Tony Allen
Lamar Odom
Carlos Delfino
Amare Stoudemire
Bradley Beal
Cut: Bojan Bogdanovic
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Our final roster:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Danilo Gallinari
Jared Dudley
Kevin Garnett
Carlos Boozer
Ryan Anderson
Dwight Howard
Jrue Holiday
Tony Allen
Lamar Odom
Carlos Delfino
Amare Stoudemire
Bradley Beal
Cut: Bojan Bogdanovic
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Our final roster:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Danilo Gallinari
Jared Dudley
Kevin Garnett
Carlos Boozer
Ryan Anderson
Dwight Howard
Jrue Holiday
Tony Allen
Lamar Odom
Carlos Delfino
Amare Stoudemire
Bradley Beal
Cut: Bojan Bogdanovic
(http://brandongilliland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/white_flag.jpg)
It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
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Since I won't be around for cut down date, here's my final roster.
The 2012-2013 Toine's Boys:
Eric Bledsoe
Goran Dragic
Iman Shumpert
Jerryd Bayless
Corey Brewer
Eric Maynor
Brook Lopez
Jon Leur
Blake Griffin
Spencer Hawes
Jeff Green
Harrison Barnes
Jared Sullinger
Perry Jones III
Draymond Green
Festus Ezeli
This is a much better team than you had starting last season. Congrats!
Thanks Rondo, hopefully my team can be a little less of a doormat this season and maybe win a matchup or two.
As the holder of your 1st round pick, I hope like hell that doesn't happen too much ;)
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Our final roster:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Danilo Gallinari
Jared Dudley
Kevin Garnett
Carlos Boozer
Ryan Anderson
Dwight Howard
Jrue Holiday
Tony Allen
Lamar Odom
Carlos Delfino
Amare Stoudemire
Bradley Beal
Cut: Bojan Bogdanovic
(http://brandongilliland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/white_flag.jpg)
It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
It's a [dang] good team. Certainly scary on paper. We'll see what happens. By the way, people are still buying me beers for knocking you guys off. :P hahah jk.
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Our final roster:
Deron Williams
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Danilo Gallinari
Jared Dudley
Kevin Garnett
Carlos Boozer
Ryan Anderson
Dwight Howard
Jrue Holiday
Tony Allen
Lamar Odom
Carlos Delfino
Amare Stoudemire
Bradley Beal
Cut: Bojan Bogdanovic
(http://brandongilliland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/white_flag.jpg)
It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
It's a [dang] good team. Certainly scary on paper. We'll see what happens. By the way, people are still buying me beers for knocking you guys off. :P hahah jk.
I'll preface this by saying it's a far better roster than mine, and I like my roster. But I thought it was more intimidating last year. Lot of older guys, physical/mental/Kardashian issues, and guys in new systems on that list.
Still the best roster on paper, though. But everyone knows championships aren't decided on paper, they're decided on websites.
Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
Wouldn't the Curry trade going through have meant you'd've lost in the quarters instead of the semis?
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Wouldn't the Curry trade going through have meant you'd've lost in the quarters instead of the semis?
I doubt we would have held onto Curry.
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
No, the best manager did. You guys clung to a couple of excuses and too much fantasy dead weight. You could've made a real run at it, but couldn't stomache the risks. :-*
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Last season was a war of attrition, I was decimated by injuries, so was YH, he just doesn't talk about it as much.
P.S. I outscored both Finals teams in 2009, but I didn't deserve to be there, because MK was brilliant in picking his starters, whereas I ran Jannero Pargo out ahead of rookie Serge Ibaka on a crucial Sunday.
EDIT - Yes that still stings. Even more than M@rc*s Th#rnt#n or JaVale McGee and a 1st for Allen Iverson. (Frankly, if AI mounted a comeback I'd probably make that mistake again.)
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
No, the best manager did. You guys clung to a couple of excuses and too much fantasy dead weight. You could've made a real run at it, but couldn't stomache the risks. :-*
Put your money where your mouth is. Or, at least, your draft pick where your keyboard is.
Our #1 for your #1, straight up. Let's make the season meaningful.
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
No, the best manager did. You guys clung to a couple of excuses and too much fantasy dead weight. You could've made a real run at it, but couldn't stomache the risks. :-*
Put your money where your mouth is. Or, at least, your draft pick where your keyboard is.
Our #1 for your #1, straight up. Let's make the season meaningful.
Want to make it meaningfu? give me your #1 for my #2
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
No, the best manager did. You guys clung to a couple of excuses and too much fantasy dead weight. You could've made a real run at it, but couldn't stomache the risks. :-*
Put your money where your mouth is. Or, at least, your draft pick where your keyboard is.
Our #1 for your #1, straight up. Let's make the season meaningful.
I might want to take a page from your playbook and tank a year.
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Want to make it meaningfu? give me your #1 for my #2
Talent redistribution? One more step toward the Marxist H2H league...
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Want to make it meaningfu? give me your #1 for my #2
Talent redistribution? One more step toward the Marxist H2H league...
I aready nominated myself the head of the talent redistribution party with a goal of getting enough votes in my voting block to push through some "Unique" rules. Nobody seemed to go for it though.
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
No, the best manager did. You guys clung to a couple of excuses and too much fantasy dead weight. You could've made a real run at it, but couldn't stomache the risks. :-*
Put your money where your mouth is. Or, at least, your draft pick where your keyboard is.
Our #1 for your #1, straight up. Let's make the season meaningful.
I might to take a page from your playbook and tank a year.
(http://media.gamerevolution.com/images/misc/chicken-mcfly.jpg)
In other words, you're scared. I can't say that I blame you.
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Talent redistribution? One more step toward the Marxist H2H league...
Says Mr. Consolation Picks.
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Want to make it meaningfu? give me your #1 for my #2
Talent redistribution? One more step toward the Marxist H2H league...
You didnt build that team roy, other people traded you players to make that happen.
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Want to make it meaningfu? give me your #1 for my #2
There's enough #2 flying around here as it is.
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Want to make it meaningfu? give me your #1 for my #2
Talent redistribution? One more step toward the Marxist H2H league...
You didnt build that team roy, other people traded you players to make that happen.
If only I could have traded on my Cherokee heritage to improve my draft position.
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It's not over. We could experience a freakish run of injuries that leaves us with only 50% of our roster active in the playoffs. Or, a minority of the league could conspire to screw us on a legitimate trade we make. Or, like last year, both could occur. ;D
"Bad luck" the refrain of losers everywhere.
And sometimes they're right.
Even though we were playing at 50% strength, we still outpointed your squad during Finals week. We both know that the best team didn't win.
Peeing match aside, it was kinda weird that just about every playoff team had loads of injuries by the end of the season - it was pretty much a limp to the finish line. Anyone who stayed healthy would've bulldozed the other contenders. Heck, I'm pretty sure my gang of rookies and also-rans outpointed both of you in the last week - I know I was well ahead of both finalists.
This of course means I'm automatically champion and Hobbs and Wiggle have to spend eternity devouring each other as the crankiest ouroborus imaginable. Book it! ;)
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I can't believe you used the word ouroboros. Outstanding.
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I can't believe you used the word ouroboros. Outstanding.
Possibly the only subject that Roy and I can agree on, THE FWF has been a great addition to the league.
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Can the next poll be how long until last season can be put behind us... :P
I mean it's fantasy freakin' basketball...
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Can the next poll be how long until last season can be put behind us... :P
I mean it's fantasy freakin' basketball...
Should I not have tattoed a screen shot of the playoff bracket on to my back?
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Can the next poll be how long until last season can be put behind us... :P
I mean it's fantasy freakin' basketball...
Should I not have tattooed a screen shot of the playoff bracket on to my back?
I have a blank piece of my shoulder set aside to tattoo this year's H2H banner on it. I figure every time I see that blank space it will motivate me to be a better GM and get that banner. ;)
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I love that we had all twenty managers return this season - that's a first. But when can we get Nick a team of his own?
Expansion draft?
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Okay i just made one trade and looking to make more..like to have a center or draft picks..here is who avaiable
Marvin Williams
Pyscho T
Nick Young
Mike Dunleavy
Sebastin Telfair
Kwame Brown
Quincy Miller
Alonzo Gee
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The aforementioned trade:
Draft Dodgers send 2013 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
Birdman sends Carl Landry
In somewhat related news, voting on veto procedure is ongoing, with 75% of the votes in. If you haven't voted yet, please do.
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Thanks again for the trade DD...I was going to cut Landry b/c I didnt have room for him..so getting a first round pick for him is great and doubt DD will get a top 3 pick
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The aforementioned trade:
Draft Dodgers send 2013 1st round pick (top 3 protected)
Birdman sends Carl Landry
In somewhat related news, voting on veto procedure is ongoing, with 75% of the votes in. If you haven't voted yet, please do.
A very good trade for both teams. A first round pick is very good value for Landry. I am not sure Birdman could have got that from any other team.
WW lands an underrated player in Landry. He scores, rebounds, shoots good %s, and get to the line often. He doesn't give you much in blocks nor steals, but for a top team, he's a nice asset to have.
Mk
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Thanks again for the trade DD...I was going to cut Landry b/c I didnt have room for him..so getting a first round pick for him is great and doubt DD will get a top 3 pick
Aw, don't tell me that.
Well at least I've avoided drafting another sleeper who would have just end up thriving on the Utah Flash.
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(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04a1bBB89McXa/x350.jpg)
The Utah Flash announce the release of JaJuan Johnson.
This move brings the Utah Flash roster down to 17. Once again, the players below are *very* available at a minimum cost to the buyer.
Luke Babbit
Terrence Williams
Kyle O'Quinn
Nolan Smith
Mk
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Thanks again for the trade DD...I was going to cut Landry b/c I didnt have room for him..so getting a first round pick for him is great and doubt DD will get a top 3 pick
Aw, don't tell me that.
Well at least I've avoided drafting another sleeper who would have just end up thriving on the Utah Flash.
If I could put a waiver claim on Machado right now, I would. ;)
Mk
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Rubio & Fwiends Trading Block:
-Trevor Ariza
-Ben Gordon
-Landry Fields
-Looking for a mid-tier starting point guard.
I've had some good discussions surrounding Ariza/Gordon but no deals I'm comfortable pulling the trigger on. Figure I'd open it up for others looking for a wing player.
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Anybody interested in Kyle Korver for a 1st round pick. 1st one to bite, gets him.
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Lucky, Carl Landry is on my team on the goggle page. I traded him to DD for his 1st pick. Thanks
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Lucky, Carl Landry is on my team on the goggle page. I traded him to DD for his 1st pick. Thanks
I have not processed that trade yet. Still under review period.
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Lucky, Carl Landry is on my team on the goggle page. I traded him to DD for his 1st pick. Thanks
I have not processed that trade yet. Still under review period.
okay thanks
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Another trade on the board:
Lucky17 sends Aaron Gray, John Lucas, Xavier Henry, Ivan Johnson
Rubio & Friends send Darko Milicic, Charlie Villanueva, Jordan Farmar, Lester Hudson
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Lucky, Carl Landry is on my team on the goggle page. I traded him to DD for his 1st pick. Thanks
I have not processed that trade yet. Still under review period.
Since the trade is under review, what's the deal with protected picks?
I know there was a proposal on the board not to allow picks to be protected outside of the #1 pick. Other people objected to any protection of picks where the protection extends to next season (i.e., if you don't get my #1 pick next year, you get it this year).
What's the protection on this pick? In the unlikely event that Wiggle's pick is in the top-3, what does Birdman get?
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Looking to jettison some players prior to the cut down date. I'm open to 2-for-1s, 3-for-2s, 15-for-13s, or player-for-pick swaps that can free up some space since I am staring down 4 (!) cuts this year. Here's who you could pick up for a song (provided that song is *NSYNC's Gone, which is INCREDIBLE).
Most available:
Doron Lamb
Jae Crowder
Marquis Teague
Jodie Meeks
Martell Webster
Slightly less available:
Devin Harris
Jamal Crawford
Boris Diaw
Jason Thompson
UNTOUCHABLE VANDY GUY:
John Jenkins
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Lucky, Carl Landry is on my team on the goggle page. I traded him to DD for his 1st pick. Thanks
I have not processed that trade yet. Still under review period.
Since the trade is under review, what's the deal with protected picks?
I know there was a proposal on the board not to allow picks to be protected outside of the #1 pick. Other people objected to any protection of picks where the protection extends to next season (i.e., if you don't get my #1 pick next year, you get it this year).
What's the protection on this pick? In the unlikely event that Wiggle's pick is in the top-3, what does Birdman get?
I don't believe we've ratified an official policy on this yet. The latest motion I proposed was a max of top-3 protection, with the 1st rolling over to the following year (no protection).
I think we'll put this trade on hold until our league guidelines are set on pick protections. This can/should be the next item up for vote.
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Another trade on the board:
Lucky17 sends Aaron Gray, John Lucas, Xavier Henry, Ivan Johnson
Rubio & Friends send Darko Milicic, Charlie Villanueva, Jordan Farmar, Lester Hudson
I don't know if I've seen a trade with more players and less production changing hands. Although if Villanueva starts producing again or Henry puts it together that could change pretty fast.
On balance, I like it for Lucky. But it probably won't move either team's record much.
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Another trade on the board:
Lucky17 sends Aaron Gray, John Lucas, Xavier Henry, Ivan Johnson
Rubio & Friends send Darko Milicic, Charlie Villanueva, Jordan Farmar, Lester Hudson
I don't know if I've seen a trade with more players and less production changing hands. Although if Villanueva starts producing again or Henry puts it together that could change pretty fast.
On balance, I like it for Lucky. But it probably won't move either team's record much.
Yeah, I don't think this moves the needle much for either me or jgod. But, he needed a PG, and I needed to consolidate my roster a bit.
Farmar and Hudson will be cut after the deal goes through. Unless someone wants to make me an offer. 3rd rounder for either of them?
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Since I've (kinda surprisingly) heard from 2 teams about this guy, I'll just publicly say what I told them:
Josh (Jorts) Harrellson is available for a 2nd round pick. Centers that can hit the 3 are pretty valuable in fantasy, and he'll get the opportunity to do that in Miami. And his fashion sense is second to none. But I don't really have room for him at this point, so he's available cheap.
EDIT: I'd also be willing to include him in a 2- or 3-for-1 deal. But I can't take a comparable player straight up because that won't help my roster.
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"I don't know if I've seen a trade with more players and less production changing hands. Although if Villanueva starts producing again or Henry puts it together that could change pretty fast."
Perfectly put, FWF.
I needed help at the point with Farmar bouncing overseas, and I'm also a fan of JLIII, I think he could stick around a while.
Gray will get the nod at the starting 5 for the Raps (for now), and Henry still has upside.
Pretty lateral move for both teams as of now...
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Pyscho T
Alonzo Gee
Kwame Brown
Sebastin Telfair
Marvin Williams
Nick Young
maybe Mike Dunleavy
Quincy Miller
These GREAT players can be yours!! Act now or someone else may get them. I do a 2 for 1 or even a 3 for 1..so hurry folks!!
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So I'm still debating my cuts but here is who I'm currently looking to trade if anyone has any interest in any of these guys.
Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Jonas Jerebko
Jan Vesely
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Linas Kleiza
Patty Mills
Jason Smith
I have these picks as well
1st rounders: My own, Utah Flash
2nd rounders: my own, Tione's Boy, Juggernauts, Birdman
I currently will not be accepting any 2nd rounders in a trade. But will gladly package them and 1st rounders.
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So, we have 17 of 20 votes in on the veto question, and 11 have responded in favor of keeping the current Yahoo! defaults of 1/3 of league votes needed to overturn a trade.
I've posted the next question, re: protections on 1st round draft picks. Once this is resolved, we can process the outstanding Birdman-Draft Dodgers trade.
Please vote, and post comments if you feel your preferred choice is not represented among the voting options.
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So I'm still debating my cuts but here is who I'm currently looking to trade if anyone has any interest in any of these guys.
Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Jonas Jerebko
Jan Vesely
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Linas Kleiza
Patty Mills
Jason Smith
I have these picks as well
1st rounders: My own, Utah Flash
2nd rounders: my own, Tione's Boy, Juggernauts, Birdman
I currently will not be accepting any 2nd rounders in a trade. But will gladly package them and 1st rounders.
Did you get my pm?
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So I'm still debating my cuts but here is who I'm currently looking to trade if anyone has any interest in any of these guys.
Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Jonas Jerebko
Jan Vesely
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Linas Kleiza
Patty Mills
Jason Smith
I have these picks as well
1st rounders: My own, Utah Flash
2nd rounders: my own, Tione's Boy, Juggernauts, Birdman
I currently will not be accepting any 2nd rounders in a trade. But will gladly package them and 1st rounders.
Did you get my pm?
Yea just saw it now, going over it now to see if there is something I might be interested in.
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Since I have had a lot of offers for Horford, I am going to put him on the block! The only condition is that I want one all-star caliber young player in return for Horford and 1 or 2 other players. I am not looking to give him away and have guys I can cut if necessary, but would like to package Horford and a couple others for one young, all-star.
Jonny Flynn
E'Twaun Moore
MarShon Brooks
Marco Belinelli
Chase Budinger
Derrick Brown
Ed Davis
Taj Gibson
Byron Mullens
Jason Maxiell
Jeremy Tyler
Kemba Walker
Nikola Vucevic
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Kyle Singler
Al Horford
Avery Bradley
Meyers Leonard
Mo Harkless
Tyler Zeller
Fab Melo
Miles Plumlee
own 1st
own 2nd
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Lou Williams
Jose Calderon
John Salmons
Arron Afflalo
Ronnie Brewer
Steve Novak
Josh Smith
Tiago Splitter
Marreese Speights
Kosta Koufos
Kobe Bryant
Danny Granger
Luc Richard Mbah a Moute
Shelden Williams
Nikola Mrotic
Thomas Robinson
CUT:
Donald Sloan
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Another trade on the board:
Lucky17 sends Aaron Gray, John Lucas, Xavier Henry, Ivan Johnson
Rubio & Friends send Darko Milicic, Charlie Villanueva, Jordan Farmar, Lester Hudson
I've sent this through, as it's past the review period.
I'm dropping Lester Hudson.
Farmar is available for a song, if anyone wants to stash him. Chris "Birdman" Andersen, too.
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just a reminder for anyone who hasn't voted yet, Poll #3 is up at the Yahoo League page (http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/4065)
Poll #3: What protections can be placed on 1st rounders?
Only 13 of us have voted.... so the other 7 of y'all... let's step it up! ;D
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Okay heres my final roster and cuts:
PG-Damian Lillard
PG-Austin Rivers
PG-Ramon Sessions
SG-Courtney lee
SG-Nick Young
SG-Wes Johnson
SF-Marvin Williams
SF-Mike Dunleavy
SF-Andrew Nicholson
SF-Derrick Williams
PF-Patrick Patterson
PF-Kenneth faried
PF-Tyler Hansbrough
PF-Terrence Jones
C--Enes Katner
C--DeAndre Jordan
Cuts:
Kwame Brown
Sebastin Telfair
Quincy miller
Alonzo Gee
Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
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I also may have the youngest team in this league, lol..I said i was going to build this team from the ground up
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Okay Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
Yeah, it looks like the top 3 protection is going to be voided. Where does that leave our deal, commish?
I'll waive the protection right now if you'll let me take a flier on one of your cuts.
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Okay Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
Yeah, it looks like the top 3 protection is going to be voided. Where does that leave our deal, commish?
I'll waive the protection right now if you'll let me take a flier on one of your cuts.
Why not just say if the pick is top 3 then. Birdman gets your 2nd rounder?
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Okay heres my final roster and cuts:
PG-Damian Lillard
PG-Austin Rivers
PG-Ramon Sessions
SG-Courtney lee
SG-Nick Young
SG-Wes Johnson
SF-Marvin Williams
SF-Mike Dunleavy
SF-Andrew Nicholson
SF-Derrick Williams
PF-Patrick Patterson
PF-Kenneth faried
PF-Tyler Hansbrough
PF-Terrence Jones
C--Enes Katner
C--DeAndre Jordan
Cuts:
Kwame Brown
Sebastin Telfair
Quincy miller
Alonzo Gee
Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
That's a pretty good young roster. It looks like you really scored in this years draft, Lillard, Rivers, Nicholson, and Jones have all looked good this preseason. Plus Kanter, Patterson, and Wes all may be primed for break out seasons.
Early favorite for GM of the year? It may be a two GM race between you and TB.
Mk
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Okay Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
Yeah, it looks like the top 3 protection is going to be voided. Where does that leave our deal, commish?
I'll waive the protection right now if you'll let me take a flier on one of your cuts.
I don't like the precedent of allowing GMs to "uncut" players.
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Okay Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
Yeah, it looks like the top 3 protection is going to be voided. Where does that leave our deal, commish?
I'll waive the protection right now if you'll let me take a flier on one of your cuts.
You guys have some options: waive the protection, scuttle the deal, or figure out some conditional arrangement if the pick does end up top-3. You could send something else instead of the pick to Birdman, or he could send something in addition to Landry in exchange for the top-3 pick.
I'm not really in favor of allowing un-cuts. Seems like a dangerous can of worms.
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Okay heres my final roster and cuts:
PG-Damian Lillard
PG-Austin Rivers
PG-Ramon Sessions
SG-Courtney lee
SG-Nick Young
SG-Wes Johnson
SF-Marvin Williams
SF-Mike Dunleavy
SF-Andrew Nicholson
SF-Derrick Williams
PF-Patrick Patterson
PF-Kenneth faried
PF-Tyler Hansbrough
PF-Terrence Jones
C--Enes Katner
C--DeAndre Jordan
Cuts:
Kwame Brown
Sebastin Telfair
Quincy miller
Alonzo Gee
Now also still on waiting for one trade to go through or not Carl Landry for DD #1 PICK..if it dont then i have to make another move..
That's a pretty good young roster. It looks like you really scored in this years draft, Lillard, Rivers, Nicholson, and Jones have all looked good this preseason. Plus Kanter, Patterson, and Wes all may be primed for break out seasons.
Early favorite for GM of the year? It may be a two GM race between you and TB.
Mk
Thanks for saying early favorite for GM of the year but its only the preseason and really have to wait to see how these rookies pan out. But Im thrill having these 4 rookies and really went after Nicholson hard. Think he may be one of the top rookies but time will tell. Alos I think Wes will do great in phoenix this year. hopefully Enes will play some more minutes.
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Guys in red available for a 2nd round draft pick. Others available for the right price...
Jonny Flynn
E'Twaun Moore
MarShon Brooks
Marco Belinelli
Chase Budinger
Derrick Brown
Ed Davis
Taj Gibson
Byron Mullens
Jason Maxiell
Jeremy Tyler
Kemba Walker
Nikola Vucevic
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Kyle Singler
Al Horford
Avery Bradley
Meyers Leonard
Mo Harkless
Tyler Zeller
Fab Melo
Miles Plumlee
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Anyone feeling a roster crunch? I can take back two players for any one of mine not named Ty, Wes, Tayshaun, or Javale (Jeff Teague will cost you).
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Rubio/Friends Final Roster:
Toney Douglas
John Lucas
Ben Gordon
Landry Fields
Nicolas Batum
Gerald Henderson
Serge Ibaka
Ivan Johnson
Aaron Gray
DeMarcus Cousins
Trevor Ariza
Ricky Rubio
Jonas Valanciunas
Xavier Henry
Jimmy Butler
Dion Waiters
Cutting:
James Singleton
Charles Jenkins
Tyshawn Taylor
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Cutdown day folks!!! Be interesting..but i be out of town and wont see until tonight who been cut or traded.
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Cutdown day folks!!! Be interesting..but i be out of town and wont see until tonight who been cut or traded.
Cut down is tomorrow.
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Cutdown day folks!!! Be interesting..but i be out of town and wont see until tonight who been cut or traded.
Cut down is tomorrow.
oops..thought it was the 15th..thanks
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Tyrus Thomas and Josh Harrellson are available for 2nd round picks - don't believe I have room for either.
If you've already declared your final roster I think you can still cut another guy if you add one of mine. Or you can just throw that guy into the trade and I'll cut him for you :)
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One day left! Come and get:
Devin Harris
Jarrett Jack
DeMar DeRozan
Luis Scola
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Jodie Meeks
Martell Webster
Boris Diaw
Jason Thompson
Marquis Teague
Jae Crowder
Doron Lamb
in a 2-1, 3-2, 4-2, 15-13, or better deal! Serious offers receive my admiration and consideration! Horrible proposals will be publicly mocked! Or just PM me to talk about how much you hate The Walker Wiggle!
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The Utah Flash announce the release of Nolan Smith.
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I am willing to trade Fab Melo or Miles Plumlee for a 2nd round pick. Hit me up if you are interested!
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Jimmer Fredette
Andre Miller
Michael Redd
Marquis Daniels
Josh Howard
Derrick Favors
David Lee
Andris Biedrins
Marc Gasol
Monta Ellis
C.J. Watson
Ronny Turiaf
Gilbert Arenas
Anthony Davis
Evan Fournier
Jeffery Taylor
Cut:
Quentin Richardson
Vladimir Radmanovic
Ryan Gomes
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Cut:
Ryan Gomes
Sad day in CB H2H.
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Or just PM me to talk about how much you hate The Walker Wiggle!
Your inbox is full.
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So far in the preseason, my mancrush on Andrew Nicholson looks good, lol. I traded for him in both leagues. But its only preseason. Still I think he could be one of the top rookies and playing for the Magic helps him
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So far in the preseason, my mancrush on Andrew Nicholson looks good, lol. I traded for him in both leagues. But its only preseason. Still I think he could be one of the top rookies and playing for the Magic helps him
Yeah, I'm impressed. On early returns you're three for four - Lillard, Terrence Jones and Nicholson. Doc's kid is going to need some time.
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So far in the preseason, my mancrush on Andrew Nicholson looks good, lol. I traded for him in both leagues. But its only preseason. Still I think he could be one of the top rookies and playing for the Magic helps him
Yeah, I'm impressed. On early returns you're three for four - Lillard, Terrence Jones and Nicholson. Doc's kid is going to need some time.
Yeah hopefully i hit a grand slam with these 4 rookies. I did some homework before i pick these kids so hope it pays off, lol.
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Tyler Hansbrough can be had for a #1 pick..act now!!!
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Cut:
Ryan Gomes
Sad day in CB H2H.
Thank you for noticing that!!!I had to swallowing my pride and it brought a tear to my eye to cut the UFA!!!!!! TP
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So far in the preseason, my mancrush on Andrew Nicholson looks good, lol. I traded for him in both leagues. But its only preseason. Still I think he could be one of the top rookies and playing for the Magic helps him
Yeah, I'm impressed. On early returns you're three for four - Lillard, Terrence Jones and Nicholson. Doc's kid is going to need some time.
Yeah hopefully i hit a grand slam with these 4 rookies. I did some homework before i pick these kids so hope it pays off, lol.
I might be kicking myself on Nicholson down the line, but I wanted another PG pretty badly, and I think the swap rights will help me too. It doesn't help that I had only read profiles and thought he was a white guy until like an hour before I traded him :P
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Revised trade to announce:
Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams
The Walker Wiggle trades Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and own 2013 1st rounder
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Revised trade to announce:
Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams
The Walker Wiggle trades Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and own 2013 1st rounder
Huge jinx. I'm now convinced that if I miss the playoffs I'm going to land a top a three pick.
I like both Williams and Butler to shoot closer to their career FG%s this season, meaning both should jump up the Yahoo rankings. Williams is younger which helps, since the champs are also the second oldest team in the league. But I think some of you missed out on Tough juice. He's been knocking down shots all fall.
Meanwhile Wright was somebody many GMs asked about but nobody would make a firm offer on. He's got nice upside, blocks shots without hurting a team anywhere.
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Revised trade to announce:
Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams
The Walker Wiggle trades Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and own 2013 1st rounder
Huge jinx. I'm now convinced that if I miss the playoffs I'm going to land a top a three pick.
I like both Williams and Butler to shoot closer to their career FG%s this season, meaning both should jump up the Yahoo rankings. Williams is younger which helps, since the champs are also the second oldest team in the league. But I think some of you missed out on Tough juice. He's been knocking down shots all fall.
Meanwhile Wright was somebody many GMs asked about but nobody would make a firm offer on. He's got nice upside, blocks shots without hurting a team anywhere.
Thanks for the trade WW. I say its a even trade. Butler and Williams are about the same. I was going to drop Landry anyways but he is looking good so far this preseason.. but getting a extra 1st pick and Wright may get some minutes with Dirk's bad knees.
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Okay i still need to cut one more player..so Im putting these 3 players on the block.
Nick Young
Psycho T
Mike Dunleavy
Will take a 1st pick for one of these guys or will do a 2 for 1 swap..if u interested, let me know. Thanks
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My team does not need any cuts.
Leandro Barbosa
Shaun Livingston
James Harden
Matt Barnes
Antawn Jamison
Richard Jefferson
Matt Bonner
Amir Johnson
Andrew Bynum
Brandon Bass
David West
Jason Richardson
Shawn Marion
Chris Bosh
Kevin Martin
Grant Hill
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Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Dorell Wright
Kawhi Leonard
Jonas Jerebko
Jan Vesely
Channing Frye
Ekpe Udoh
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Mike Conley
Dwyane Wade
Jeremy Lin
Anderson Varejao
Jason Smith
Kendall Marshall
cut:
Patty Mills
Linas Kleiza
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Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Dorell Wright
Kawhi Leonard
Jonas Jerebko
Jan Vesely
Channing Frye
Ekpe Udoh
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Mike Conley
Dwyane Wade
Jeremy Lin
Anderson Varejao
Jason Smith
Kendall Marshall
cut:
Patty Mills
Linas Kleiza
Solid team. Kinda surprised you kept Frye though, with him out for the year and no more Nash to set him up for 3s. But you could have another dark-horse playoff run in you.
Waiting for a small trade to go through and then I'll announce my final guys.
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Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Dorell Wright
Kawhi Leonard
Jonas Jerebko
Jan Vesely
Channing Frye
Ekpe Udoh
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Mike Conley
Dwyane Wade
Jeremy Lin
Anderson Varejao
Jason Smith
Kendall Marshall
cut:
Patty Mills
Linas Kleiza
Solid team. Kinda surprised you kept Frye though, with him out for the year and no more Nash to set him up for 3s. But you could have another dark-horse playoff run in you.
Waiting for a small trade to go through and then I'll announce my final guys.
Thanks, I'm keeping Frye until he is reevaluated. He is currently out indefinitely, but since it's a long season I think I can afford to miss him for the beginning of the year until they make a more definite decision about the rest of his career.
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The Utah Flash announce the release of Kyle O'Quinn.
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The Utah Flash roster stands at 15 players.
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
OJ Mayo
Marcus Thornton
Donatas Motiejunas
Tobias Harris
Bismack Biyombo
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
Nikola Pekovic
Greivis Vasquez
John Henson
Kim English
Terrence Williams
Luke Babbit
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The Utah Flash roster stands at 15 players.
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
OJ Mayo
Marcus Thornton
Donatas Motiejunas
Tobias Harris
Bismack Biyombo
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
Nikola Pekovic
Greivis Vasquez
John Henson
Kim English
Terrence Williams
Luke Babbit
Still regretting trading rondo, though Harden is no slouch either
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The Utah Flash roster stands at 15 players.
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
OJ Mayo
Marcus Thornton
Donatas Motiejunas
Tobias Harris
Bismack Biyombo
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
Nikola Pekovic
Greivis Vasquez
John Henson
Kim English
Terrence Williams
Luke Babbit
Still regretting trading rondo, though Harden is no slouch either
The Harden for Rondo swap was pretty even I believe. And I do like having a Celtic on my team.
Mk
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Revised trade to announce:
Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams
The Walker Wiggle trades Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and own 2013 1st rounder
Huge jinx. I'm now convinced that if I miss the playoffs I'm going to land a top a three pick.
I like both Williams and Butler to shoot closer to their career FG%s this season, meaning both should jump up the Yahoo rankings. Williams is younger which helps, since the champs are also the second oldest team in the league. But I think some of you missed out on Tough juice. He's been knocking down shots all fall.
Meanwhile Wright was somebody many GMs asked about but nobody would make a firm offer on. He's got nice upside, blocks shots without hurting a team anywhere.
Williams and Landry were two guys I tried to get.... That guy Wiggle musta hacked my account :P
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Looking to get picks and/or young guys for players. Pretty much anyone available for the right offer! Hit me with what you got!
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Another trade:
Draft Dodgers send own 2013 2nd rd pick
Rusted Rims send Tyrus Thomas
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Another trade:
Draft Dodgers send own 2013 2nd rd pick
Rusted Rims send Tyrus Thomas
I think that's a really smart trade by the Wiggle. I would have taken a flyer, as well, but our roster is full.
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Another trade:
Draft Dodgers send own 2013 2nd rd pick
Rusted Rims send Tyrus Thomas
The WW is going on a preseason shopping spree!
Mk
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I was close to taking that flier on Ty Thomas, but I wanted to save my 2nd rounder for another deal.
Coincidentally:
Lucky17 trades own 2013 2nd rounder
Birdman trades Tyler Hansbrough
I am dropping Jordan Farmar. Both my and Birdman's rosters are at 16 players, pending the deal.
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I was close to taking that flier on Ty Thomas, but I wanted to save my 2nd rounder for another deal.
Coincidentally:
Lucky17 trades own 2013 2nd rounder
Birdman trades Tyler Hansbrough
I am dropping Jordan Farmar. Both my and Birdman's rosters are at 16 players, pending the deal.
Nice deal. Hansbrough is an efficient player who should get more minutes if West gets hurt or leaves Indy.
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Still need to move some players before the deadline. Here's who is the most available:
Devin Harris
Jarrett Jack
DeMar DeRozan
Luis Scola
Zach Randolph
Jamal Crawford
Jodie Meeks
Martell Webster
Boris Diaw
Jason Thompson
Marquis Teague
Jae Crowder
Doron Lamb
2-for-1s preferred, but I'm open to just about anything.
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I was close to taking that flier on Ty Thomas, but I wanted to save my 2nd rounder for another deal.
Coincidentally:
Lucky17 trades own 2013 2nd rounder
Birdman trades Tyler Hansbrough
I am dropping Jordan Farmar. Both my and Birdman's rosters are at 16 players, pending the deal.
I really didnt want to trade Psycho T but I had no room for him. I chose Brandan Wright over him pending if deal goes through. So I was going to cut Psycho T but better get something for nothing. So I got a 2nd rounder for him and that can be a trade chip in the future
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So heres my roster if both trades goes through:
PG-Damon Lillard
PG-Austin Rivers
PG-Ramon sessions
SG-Courtney Lee
SG-Nick Young
SG-Wes Johnson
SG-Caron Butler
SF-Derrick Williams
SF-Mike Dunleavy
SF-Andrew Nicholson
PF-Kenneth Faried
PF-Patrick Patterson
PF-Branden Wright
PF-Terrence Jones
C--Enes Katner
C--DeAndre Jordan
Very young team thats for sure!!
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8 teams still need to make cuts.
blake
Gainesville Celtics
Juggernauts2
MakeMeSomeBacon
The Rusted Rims
Designated Drinkers
Draft Dodgers
Password is Taco
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Trade for review:
Designated Drinkers trade J.J. Barea
Gainesville Celtics trade right to swap own 2013 1st rounder with Designated Drinkers' 2013 1st rounder
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Trade for review:
Designated Drinkers trade J.J. Barea
Gainesville Celtics trade right to swap own 2013 1st rounder with Designated Drinkers' 2013 1st rounder
If I understand this deal correctly, DD is trading Barea for the right to swap #1s with a team it finished behind last year?
Also, as a point of clarification: there's a review period for these deals, right? But rosters still need to be cut down before this evening, right?
In other words, a GM can't have 17 players, with the understanding that a trade scheduled to go through tomorrow will get them down to 16.
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Also, as a point of clarification: there's a review period for these deals, right? But rosters still need to be cut down before this evening, right?
In other words, a GM can't have 17 players, with the understanding that a trade scheduled to go through tomorrow will get them down to 16.
We do have a 24-hour review for all trades. Because we're butting up right against the deadline, as usual, I think that we should operate on the good-faith assumption that all deals will go through.
If, however, a trade gets vetoed by the rest of the league, then I think any teams who will need to adjust cuts accordingly should have a grace period to do so.
What do other people think?
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Also, as a point of clarification: there's a review period for these deals, right? But rosters still need to be cut down before this evening, right?
In other words, a GM can't have 17 players, with the understanding that a trade scheduled to go through tomorrow will get them down to 16.
We do have a 24-hour review for all trades. Because we're butting up right against the deadline, as usual, I think that we should operate on the good-faith assumption that all deals will go through.
If, however, a trade gets vetoed by the rest of the league, then I think any teams who will need to adjust cuts accordingly should have a grace period to do so.
What do other people think?
I'm going to object.
Rules are rules, and as indicated last year, trades need to be assessed based upon the rules in effect at the time. We haven't bent rules in the past, and it's patently unfair to do so here. If there was one thing the league was crystal clear on last year, it's that rules shouldn't be modified retroactively.
The deadline and the trade review period have been in place for quite some time. If people procrastinated and missed out by doing so, it's on them. It's unfair to allow some teams to carry 17 players past the deadline.
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Also, as a point of clarification: there's a review period for these deals, right? But rosters still need to be cut down before this evening, right?
In other words, a GM can't have 17 players, with the understanding that a trade scheduled to go through tomorrow will get them down to 16.
We do have a 24-hour review for all trades. Because we're butting up right against the deadline, as usual, I think that we should operate on the good-faith assumption that all deals will go through.
If, however, a trade gets vetoed by the rest of the league, then I think any teams who will need to adjust cuts accordingly should have a grace period to do so.
What do other people think?
Agreed.
Plus, if anyone has an issue with any trade, bring it up as soon as possible.
Mk
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Also, as a point of clarification: there's a review period for these deals, right? But rosters still need to be cut down before this evening, right?
In other words, a GM can't have 17 players, with the understanding that a trade scheduled to go through tomorrow will get them down to 16.
We do have a 24-hour review for all trades. Because we're butting up right against the deadline, as usual, I think that we should operate on the good-faith assumption that all deals will go through.
If, however, a trade gets vetoed by the rest of the league, then I think any teams who will need to adjust cuts accordingly should have a grace period to do so.
What do other people think?
I'm going to object.
Rules are rules, and as indicated last year, trades need to be assessed based upon the rules in effect at the time. We haven't bent rules in the past, and it's patently unfair to do so here. If there was one thing the league was crystal clear on last year, it's that rules shouldn't be modified retroactively.
The deadline and the trade review period have been in place for quite some time. If people procrastinated and missed out by doing so, it's on them. It's unfair to allow some teams to carry 17 players past the deadline.
I agree with this, less rule bending the better, it spares hurt feelings.
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Trade for review:
Designated Drinkers trade J.J. Barea
Gainesville Celtics trade right to swap own 2013 1st rounder with Designated Drinkers' 2013 1st rounder
If I understand this deal correctly, DD is trading Barea for the right to swap #1s with a team it finished behind last year?
Designated Drinkers finished ahead of the Gainesville Celtics last year.
Also, as a point of clarification: there's a review period for these deals, right? But rosters still need to be cut down before this evening, right?
In other words, a GM can't have 17 players, with the understanding that a trade scheduled to go through tomorrow will get them down to 16.
We do have a 24-hour review for all trades. Because we're butting up right against the deadline, as usual, I think that we should operate on the good-faith assumption that all deals will go through.
If, however, a trade gets vetoed by the rest of the league, then I think any teams who will need to adjust cuts accordingly should have a grace period to do so.
What do other people think?
I'm going to object.
Rules are rules, and as indicated last year, trades need to be assessed based upon the rules in effect at the time. We haven't bent rules in the past, and it's patently unfair to do so here. If there was one thing the league was crystal clear on last year, it's that rules shouldn't be modified retroactively.
The deadline and the trade review period have been in place for quite some time. If people procrastinated and missed out by doing so, it's on them. It's unfair to allow some teams to carry 17 players past the deadline.
hmm... didn't see any suggestion of bending the rules...
I'll just cut to 15 players if that's necessary --- but I can't speak for Designated Drinkers I guess...
For arguments sake --- not that I could ever win one with Roy ;D ---
during the season if teams make a trade 1 min. before the trade deadline that's unbalanced -- say this same deal -- there is still 24 hr. review period. The Yahoo software asks me who I want to waive (since taking on a 17th player isn't allowed) assuming the deal goes through. If it doesn't I don't end up waiving that player.
I don't see why that wouldn't apply here (again i guess I can't speak for what DD would do...)
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I guess it comes down to an interpretation of whether a traded player belongs on his former team's roster throughout the review process.
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I guess it comes down to an interpretation of whether a traded player belongs on his former team's roster throughout the review process.
He's still property of the original team until a trade is finalized. Yahoo recognizes this, as the traded players still play for their original team during the review process.
I don't think there's any interpretation involved at all. A player is still on his original team until a trade is completed.
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I guess it comes down to an interpretation of whether a traded player belongs on his former team's roster throughout the review process.
I'd say yes (based on how Yahoo! does things), so I guess I see what Roy is saying:
Des Drinkers' 16-man, post-cutdown roster would have to include Barea then he'd have 15 guys tomorrow assuming the trade goes through.
(sorry in my earlier post, i was just thinking the deal put me over 16, not the implications for DD's roster...)
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I guess it comes down to an interpretation of whether a traded player belongs on his former team's roster throughout the review process.
He's still property of the original team until a trade is finalized. Yahoo recognizes this, as the traded players still play for their original team during the review process.
I don't think there's any interpretation involved at all. A player is still on his original team until a trade is completed.
That's true.
I'll check my logs. Looks like all trades announced today will be scuttled.
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I don't believe we ever enforced this before, although there is a point to be made.
So is precedence the ruling factor?
In any event, the real looser in this is Lucky who has to deal with the fallout and the WW's dozen or so responses to this.
With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Mk
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Mk
Probably yes, although I didn't anticipate this issue.
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
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I guess it comes down to an interpretation of whether a traded player belongs on his former team's roster throughout the review process.
He's still property of the original team until a trade is finalized. Yahoo recognizes this, as the traded players still play for their original team during the review process.
I don't think there's any interpretation involved at all. A player is still on his original team until a trade is completed.
That's true.
I'll check my logs. Looks like all trades announced today will be scuttled.
Not necessarily, to be consistent with the Yahoo! rules, i think:
1. Balanced trades --- i.e. Birdman & Draft Dodgers deal (Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams --> The Walker Wiggle trades Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and own 2013 1st rounder) --- are fine i think b/c both teams have 16 players before and after the deadline.
(I agree too with Roy's point that this was a re-configuration of a deal, perhaps subject to some leeway)
2. For unbalanced trades -- like Lucky17/Birdman, GC/BFM and DraftDodgers/Rusted Rims deals -- they could go through, but the team TRADING AWAY more players than getting would have to (a) include those OUTGOING players in their 16-man post-cutdown rosters and (b) then would have a roster of 16 players LESS the difference in players SENT and RECEIVED (i.e. if they send 1 player and get 0 (which all 3 of these are) they have a 15 man roster.)
Can't speak for the other GMs, but my guess is that most were making these deals to alleviate roster crunches so it may not make sense for them to want to keep the guy they're trying to trade through the cut-down deadline.
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FWIW -- I've emailed BFM about this (ie. him having to keep Barea as part of the 16-man roster). If I don't hear back from him by 4 pm i'll just make my cuts...
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
If we are sticking to the rules, the second trade is new and was not announced until this morning. The league must have a full 24 hours to review the trade.
However, we have never enforced this. If this needs to be enforced next year, fine. Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
For this cut-down deadline, IMO this does not need to be enforced.
Mk
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
If we are sticking to the rules, the second trade is new and was not announced until this morning. The league must have a full 24 hours to review the trade.
However, we have never enforced this. If this needs to be enforced next year, fine. Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
For this cut-down deadline, IMO this does not need to be enforced.
Mk
Well, we'd never enforced the "7 votes for a veto" rule until last year, either. In fact, the original Constitution called for a majority veto, a rule that was never explicitly changed.
When I pointed that out, the refrain was "rules are rules".
I agree with GC's interpretation of how things should go down, btw.
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
If we are sticking to the rules, the second trade is new and was not announced until this morning. The league must have a full 24 hours to review the trade.
However, we have never enforced this. If this needs to be enforced next year, fine. Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
For this cut-down deadline, IMO this does not need to be enforced.
Mk
Well, we'd never enforced the "7 votes for a veto" rule until last year, either. In fact, the original Constitution called for a majority veto, a rule that was never explicitly changed.
When I pointed that out, the refrain was "rules are rules".
I agree with GC's interpretation of how things should go down, btw.
Are you saying that you would have not brought this up if your trades weren't veto'd?
Mk
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OK, I'm gonna go ahead and make my cuts since I
(I'm going on the understanding that either (a) balanced trades are still OK up to the cutdown deadline or (b) if BFM is willing to keep Barea as one of his 16 guys I can waive a player as part of a trade being processed after the cutdown date (like Yahoo! allows)).
1 Russell Westbrook
2 Mo Williams
3 Daniel Gibson
4 Tony Wroten, Jr.
5 Joe Johnson
6 C.J. Miles
7 Will Barton
8 Andrei Kirilenko
9 Metta World Peace
10 Chris Singleton
11 Drew Gooden
12 Al Harrington
13 Al Jefferson
14 Elton Brand
15 Chuck Hayes
16 Earl Watson
CUTS:
Rudy "Adios" Fernandez
Kenyon "No Minimum" Martin
Jordan "Unemployed Even Though Paul Flannery Says I Won't Be Unemployed Long" Williams
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
If we are sticking to the rules, the second trade is new and was not announced until this morning. The league must have a full 24 hours to review the trade.
IMO, *when* the trade was announced is immaterial. For cutdown purposes it's whether it has equal # of players going in/out.
Technically, Draft Dodgers' cutdown roster woudl have B.Wright and C. Butler, Birdman woudl have Marvin Williams and Landry --- then the players switch teams tomorrow.
However, we have never enforced this. If this needs to be enforced next year, fine. Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
For this cut-down deadline, IMO this does not need to be enforced.
Mk
i think that's a good idea.
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
If we are sticking to the rules, the second trade is new and was not announced until this morning. The league must have a full 24 hours to review the trade.
However, we have never enforced this. If this needs to be enforced next year, fine. Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
For this cut-down deadline, IMO this does not need to be enforced.
Mk
Well, we'd never enforced the "7 votes for a veto" rule until last year, either. In fact, the original Constitution called for a majority veto, a rule that was never explicitly changed.
When I pointed that out, the refrain was "rules are rules".
I agree with GC's interpretation of how things should go down, btw.
Are you saying that you would have not brought this up if your trades weren't veto'd?
Mk
It's hard to say. If the league were less cutthroat and hadn't (in my mind) screwed me over, I'd probably be less vigilant in viewing every trade from a "what are the technical rules" standpoint. But I can't say for sure.
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Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
i think that's a good idea.
I think so, too. For next season, it's a rule that should be added. This year should be governed by the rules in place at the time, though.
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With only 3 hours until the deadline, perhaps this should have been brought to the league attention sooner.
Ideally, it would have been, but I didn't think of the implications of it until today.
Theoretically, not enforcing the trade allows GMs to circumvent the waiver-wire, dealing the players they would have cut to other teams.
As far as Wiggle's trade, I have no issue letting that trade through, as 1) it was agreed to yesterday, and 2) it was just the resurrection of a deal made due to a clarified rule. In other words, Wiggle and Birdman did everything in their power not to procrastinate.
If we are sticking to the rules, the second trade is new and was not announced until this morning. The league must have a full 24 hours to review the trade.
However, we have never enforced this. If this needs to be enforced next year, fine. Maybe have a trade deadline of 24 hours before the cut down deadline.
For this cut-down deadline, IMO this does not need to be enforced.
Mk
Well, we'd never enforced the "7 votes for a veto" rule until last year, either. In fact, the original Constitution called for a majority veto, a rule that was never explicitly changed.
When I pointed that out, the refrain was "rules are rules".
I agree with GC's interpretation of how things should go down, btw.
Are you saying that you would have not brought this up if your trades weren't veto'd?
Mk
It's hard to say. If the league were less cutthroat and hadn't (in my mind) screwed me over, I'd probably be less vigilant in viewing every trade from a "what are the technical rules" standpoint. But I can't say for sure.
I can see that.
TP for honesty.
Mk
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The 24-hour review period for each of the following deals ends after today's roster deadline:
86 Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams --> Draft Dodgers trade Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and Draft Dodgers' 2013 1st rounder
87 Draft Dodgers send Draft Dodgers' 2013 2nd rd pick --> Rusted Rims send Tyrus Thomas
88 Lucky17 trades Lucky17 2013 2nd rounder --> Birdman trades Tyler Hansbrough
89 Designated Drinkers trade J.J. Barea --> Gainesville Celtics trade right to swap own 2013 1st rounder with Designated Drinkers' 2013 1st rounder
All GMs involved must confirm by PM to me whether they wish to go forward with these deals, especially if these deals were made with the belief that they would help trim rosters below the 16-man max.
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The 24-hour review period for each of the following deals ends after today's roster deadline:
86 Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams --> Draft Dodgers trade Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and Draft Dodgers' 2013 1st rounder
87 Draft Dodgers send Draft Dodgers' 2013 2nd rd pick --> Rusted Rims send Tyrus Thomas
88 Lucky17 trades Lucky17 2013 2nd rounder --> Birdman trades Tyler Hansbrough
89 Designated Drinkers trade J.J. Barea --> Gainesville Celtics trade right to swap own 2013 1st rounder with Designated Drinkers' 2013 1st rounder
All GMs involved must confirm by PM to me whether they wish to go forward with these deals, especially if these deals were made with the belief that they would help trim rosters below the 16-man max.
IMO/FWIW there shoudl be no issue with trade #86 ---
Technically, Draft Dodgers' cutdown roster woudl have B.Wright and C. Butler, Birdman woudl have Marvin Williams and Landry --- then the players switch teams tomorrow along with DD's 2013 #1 pick.
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So, whether or not my trade is in limbo, I'm dropping Josh Harrellson and rolling with the following 16:
PG Brandon Knight
PG Jameer Nelson
PG DJ Augustin
PG Roddy Beaubois
SG Klay Thompson
SG JR Smith
SG Brandon Roy
SG Jeremy Lamb
SF Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
SF Danny Green
SF Chandler Parsons
PF Carmelo Anthony
PF Glen Davis
PF Trevor Booker
C Greg Monroe
C Omer Asik
Really like this bunch - we're probably not ready for the big-time yet but we should be a contender for the playoffs with a bright future.
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The 24-hour review period for each of the following deals ends after today's roster deadline:
86 Birdman trades Carl Landry and Marvin Williams --> Draft Dodgers trade Caron Butler, Brandon Wright, and Draft Dodgers' 2013 1st rounder
87 Draft Dodgers send Draft Dodgers' 2013 2nd rd pick --> Rusted Rims send Tyrus Thomas
88 Lucky17 trades Lucky17 2013 2nd rounder --> Birdman trades Tyler Hansbrough
89 Designated Drinkers trade J.J. Barea --> Gainesville Celtics trade right to swap own 2013 1st rounder with Designated Drinkers' 2013 1st rounder
All GMs involved must confirm by PM to me whether they wish to go forward with these deals, especially if these deals were made with the belief that they would help trim rosters below the 16-man max.
IMO/FWIW there shoudl be no issue with trade #86 ---
Technically, Draft Dodgers' cutdown roster woudl have B.Wright and C. Butler, Birdman woudl have Marvin Williams and Landry --- then the players switch teams tomorrow along with DD's 2013 #1 pick.
That may be true, but I am not going to assume anything.
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If we decide my deal with Wiggle doesn't go through then I want Thomas dropped.
BTW, I think this could be a good "learnable moment" for the league - starting next year I'd recommend we set a pre-cut trading deadline that's ~24 hrs before the cut deadline itself. It would sidestep this issue nicely.
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I'll be dropping ubiles.
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Rules are rules, and as indicated last year, trades need to be assessed based upon the rules in effect at the time. We haven't bent rules in the past, and it's patently unfair to do so here. If there was one thing the league was crystal clear on last year, it's that rules shouldn't be modified retroactively.
Sure we have, Mr. Consolation picks.
Anyway, I don't have a cool enough head for this, rather than deal with somebody's personal axe to grind, I'll just walk away.
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Rules are rules, and as indicated last year, trades need to be assessed based upon the rules in effect at the time. We haven't bent rules in the past, and it's patently unfair to do so here. If there was one thing the league was crystal clear on last year, it's that rules shouldn't be modified retroactively.
Sure we have, Mr. Consolation picks.
Anyway, I don't have a cool enough head for this, rather than deal with somebody's personal axe to grind, I'll just walk away.
I believe WW just quit the league. We are at an odd number of teams in Y!.
That old dull axe just ground out the WW.
Mk
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...this again?
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All of the animosity is really getting old at this point. It's time for people to grow up and put the stupid bs behind them.
It's fantasy basketball. Think about that.
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All of the animosity is really getting old at this point. It's time for people to grow up and put the stupid bs behind them.
It's fantasy basketball. Think about that.
If i could give you all my Tommy POints I would... 8)
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Anyway, I don't have a cool enough head for this, rather than deal with somebody's personal axe to grind, I'll just walk away.
I believe WW just quit the league. We are at an odd number of teams in Y!.
That old dull axe just ground out the WW.
Mk
Let's not jump to conclusions. I think (hope?) WW just meant he needs to walk away from the computer for a bit.
I have a trade to announce, perhaps it will get us back to talking about basketball:
Kwhit sends Kendall Marshall, Jan Vesely, own 2013 1st, Utah Flash 2013 1st
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Al Horford and Jason Maxiell
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Anyway, I don't have a cool enough head for this, rather than deal with somebody's personal axe to grind, I'll just walk away.
I believe WW just quit the league. We are at an odd number of teams in Y!.
That old dull axe just ground out the WW.
Mk
Let's not jump to conclusions. I think (hope?) WW just meant he needs to walk away from the computer for a bit.
I have a trade to announce, perhaps it will get us back to talking about basketball:
Kwhit sends Kendall Marshall, Jan Vesely, own 2013 1st, Utah Flash 2013 1st
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Al Horford and Jason Maxiell
Aw snap! I had just made an initial offer for horford. Gaaaah.
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Yeah, I read that as Wiggle just avoiding the argument, not leaving the league. Although threatening to quit the league and then silently shuffling back into the fold is one of our richest traditions. If Wiggle doesn't, then I will just to keep up appearances, and I'm going to blame it all on...
let's see...
yep, definitely blake's fault.
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Anyway, I don't have a cool enough head for this, rather than deal with somebody's personal axe to grind, I'll just walk away.
I believe WW just quit the league. We are at an odd number of teams in Y!.
That old dull axe just ground out the WW.
Mk
Let's not jump to conclusions. I think (hope?) WW just meant he needs to walk away from the computer for a bit.
I have a trade to announce, perhaps it will get us back to talking about basketball:
Kwhit sends Kendall Marshall, Jan Vesely, own 2013 1st, Utah Flash 2013 1st
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Al Horford and Jason Maxiell
I don't like this trade for Kwhit one bit. Anytime a team, who finished ahead of me last season, lands a player like Horford, I don't like it.
That being said, I think Marshall will be very good, but he's behind Dragic for now. Plus, Vesely is an intriguing player.
Mk
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Anyway, I don't have a cool enough head for this, rather than deal with somebody's personal axe to grind, I'll just walk away.
I believe WW just quit the league. We are at an odd number of teams in Y!.
That old dull axe just ground out the WW.
Mk
Let's not jump to conclusions. I think (hope?) WW just meant he needs to walk away from the computer for a bit.
I think MK was referencing that he deleted his team on Yahoo.
I have a trade to announce, perhaps it will get us back to talking about basketball:
Kwhit sends Kendall Marshall, Jan Vesely, own 2013 1st, Utah Flash 2013 1st
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Al Horford and Jason Maxiell
Interesting. Horford for two unproven young guys and two picks. I'd like to think that there was more value out there for him, but this is basically four swings at a home run for MMSB, so it could work out.
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That being said, I think Marshall will be very good, but he's behind Dragic for now. Plus, Vesely is an intriguing player.
Mk
I think it may take some time before Bacon might be deemed the winner of this trade.
Then again, maybe Atlanta struggles this year after the loss of Johnson and the uncertainty of Josh Smith's future. Plus Horford did have that injury last year (although he's got to be fully recuperated by now?).
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What's the flowchart on Horford's movement? Was it a trade between Lucky and MMSB, or were there more pieces?
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I was high on Marshall coming into the draft and I think he'll end up having a good career. Vesely is a wild card, there are times where I think he'll turn out to be productive and then other times I don't even know about him.
I don't expect my 1st round pick next year to be too high and UF could range from the middle to high teens as well.
I think Horford will produce what he did before this injury about 15 and 9.
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I like that deal a lot for KWhit. I like Kendall Marshall as an NBA player, but he's not likely to be much of a scorer, which really hurts him in this format. Don't know much about Vesely, but the two picks are likely to be out of the lottery in what's shaping up as a weak draft.
It could pan out for Bacon but KWhit got a very nice piece to add to a roster that was strong already.
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I think Kwhit wins this deal by a fair margin. Marshall is a rookie and playing behind a young PG. Vesely showed nothing last year and I never saw what any of the draftniks saw in him. Unless those picks are in the top 5 I can't see them being more valuable than a 26 year old 14PPG, 9.5 RPG, 1 BPG, 2.5 APG, 54% FG%, 76% FT% big man that is just starting to come into his own.
Those stats, over the next 7 years, could be 10-20% lower than what Horford actually puts up as he enters his prime..
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Hoooo boy. Cut time:
Jodie Meeks
Boris Diaw
Jae Crowder
Doron Lamb
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Cant wait for waiver wire time where teams can pick up someone...
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How is waiver wire priority determined?
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Its cool watching Lucky move players on the google page
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Looks like only three teams are over the limits.
#1 Juggernauts2 (BDubs)
Stephen Curry
John Wall
Richard Hamilton
Delonte West
Shannon Brown
Stephen Jackson
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor
J.J. Hickson
Norris Cole
Rashard Lewis
Kyle Korver
Quincy Pondexter
Brendan Haywood
Darrell Arthur
Royce White
Thoughts? Given his current troubles, perhaps the cut should be Delonte?
Or should it be someone else? Rip?
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Looks like only three teams are over the limits.
#1 Juggernauts2 (BDubs)
Stephen Curry
John Wall
Richard Hamilton
Delonte West
Shannon Brown
Stephen Jackson
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor
J.J. Hickson
Norris Cole
Rashard Lewis
Kyle Korver
Quincy Pondexter
Brendan Haywood
Darrell Arthur
Royce White
Thoughts? Given his current troubles, perhaps the cut should be Delonte?
Or should it be someone else? Rip?
Not Rip.
I'd go with Pondexter, who has shown zip in his career thus far. Second choice would probably be Rashard, followed by Delonte.
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Looks like only three teams are over the limits.
#1 Juggernauts2 (BDubs)
Stephen Curry
John Wall
Richard Hamilton
Delonte West
Shannon Brown
Stephen Jackson
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor
J.J. Hickson
Norris Cole
Rashard Lewis
Kyle Korver
Quincy Pondexter
Brendan Haywood
Darrell Arthur
Royce White
Thoughts? Given his current troubles, perhaps the cut should be Delonte?
Or should it be someone else? Rip?
Pondexter..probably be in d-league
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Looks like only three teams are over the limits.
#1 Juggernauts2 (BDubs)
Stephen Curry
John Wall
Richard Hamilton
Delonte West
Shannon Brown
Stephen Jackson
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor
J.J. Hickson
Norris Cole
Rashard Lewis
Kyle Korver
Quincy Pondexter
Brendan Haywood
Darrell Arthur
Royce White
Thoughts? Given his current troubles, perhaps the cut should be Delonte?
Or should it be someone else? Rip?
Odd, the Juggs are usually very responsive.
Not Rip nor Pondexter. Rip could have some good value for trading. Pondexter is developing into a nice backup sf.
I would say West or Lewis.
Mk
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Im surprise MMSB didnt make his roster moves. He is always active
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Looks like only three teams are over the limits.
#1 Juggernauts2 (BDubs)
Stephen Curry
John Wall
Richard Hamilton
Delonte West
Shannon Brown
Stephen Jackson
Chris Kaman
Joakim Noah
Emeka Okafor
J.J. Hickson
Norris Cole
Rashard Lewis
Kyle Korver
Quincy Pondexter
Brendan Haywood
Darrell Arthur
Royce White
Thoughts? Given his current troubles, perhaps the cut should be Delonte?
Or should it be someone else? Rip?
Odd, the Juggs are usually very responsive.
Not Rip nor Pondexter. Rip could have some good value for trading. Pondexter is developing into a nice backup sf.
I would say West or Lewis.
Mk
You think so on Pondexter?
Here's his game log:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pondequ01/gamelog/2012/
And his splits:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/pondequ01/splits/2012/
Nothing jumps out at me as him being roster-worthy. Of course, he might see some more opportunity this year, but I just don't think he's long for the NBA.
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Yeah, I read that as Wiggle just avoiding the argument, not leaving the league. Although threatening to quit the league and then silently shuffling back into the fold is one of our richest traditions.
No, THE Walker Wiggle is indeed quitting in a huff, just as the humble founder of this league once did, and several managers since.
I'll miss you most of all, scarecrow.
I have a trade to announce, perhaps it will get us back to talking about basketball.
Sorry, boss, last word from me I swear - and just because a lot of the guys have been reaching out to me, which I do appreciate.
Nobody enjoyed his run in this league more than me, but if I stuck around now I'd just become part of the problem. It wouldn't be for fun, it would be to prove a point. I don't want to have the same arguments all over again, but can't always resist in the moment. I love some trash talk, I like bitter eye for an eye stuff less.
Anyway, many thanks to CB, to you Lucky, for playing warden, and to all the rest of you. I've got a surprising amount of affection for this semi-anonymous gang of rabble rousers.
I guess I'm entitled to name my successor (a weird rule that somebody made up last off-season) but I don't really know who that would be? Just remind whoever, that they've inherited first waiver priority. I was looking forward to that.
Good luck all. XOXO
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Your waiver priority actually falls to the remaining manager that you'll miss most of all when you leave. Exact wording of the rulebook. Weird.
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Dang, that sucks. I was looking forward to a year's worth of ball busting and trash talking with The Wiggle.
Sorry to see you go my man.
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I'm not going to agonize over these cuts. GMs will be able to use waiver priority to reclaim guys they really want. Cost of business.
I'm cutting Pondexter from BDubs roster.
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Hate to see Walker Wiggle go. Always active. And guess that means my trade is gone also. So welcome back Carl Landry and Marvin Williams. Hope theres no hard feelings!!
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Hate to see Walker Wiggle go. Always active. And guess that means my trade is gone also. So welcome back Carl Landry and Marvin Williams. Hope there's no hard feelings!!
Between you and me? None whatsoever. Always a pleasure. And I appreciate the sentiments. Up to you and Lucky if the trade that we made goes through, might be eligible.
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Hate to see Walker Wiggle go. Always active. And guess that means my trade is gone also. So welcome back Carl Landry and Marvin Williams. Hope there's no hard feelings!!
Between you and me? None whatsoever. Always a pleasure. And I appreciate the sentiments. Up to you and Lucky if the trade that we made goes through, might be eligible.
Okay thanks and hope u reconsider coming back
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Hate to see Walker Wiggle go. Always active. And guess that means my trade is gone also. So welcome back Carl Landry and Marvin Williams. Hope theres no hard feelings!!
Didn't you get my PM? That trade can continue to go through. It's up to you two.
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Hate to see Walker Wiggle go. Always active. And guess that means my trade is gone also. So welcome back Carl Landry and Marvin Williams. Hope theres no hard feelings!!
Didn't you get my PM? That trade can continue to go through. It's up to you two.
He said he is quitting right? Im confuse lol
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Hate to see Walker Wiggle go. Always active. And guess that means my trade is gone also. So welcome back Carl Landry and Marvin Williams. Hope theres no hard feelings!!
Didn't you get my PM? That trade can continue to go through. It's up to you two.
He said he is quitting right? Im confuse lol
I did. So it's entirely your call. I was just pointing out it wasn't ruled out like my later trade with THE FWF.
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So, I know the body's not even cold, but any suggestions for a replacement GM? We should really try and have one before the waiver system goes active.
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So, I know the body's not even cold, but any suggestions for a replacement GM? We should really try and have one before the waiver system goes active.
i might now a couple..if u guys want me to ask but hope Walker Wiggle comes bacck
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I would say nick should have first dibs on Wiggle's team if he wants it.
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I would say nick should have first dibs on Wiggle's team if he wants it.
I agree, he's already familiar with the league.
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I would be happy to take over The Walker Wiggle's team until such time as he wants to return or permanently, whichever it is. But I would have one request. Any trades made by TWW in the past 24-48 hours not be allowed to go through. I would want those draft choices he just traded away
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I would say nick should have first dibs on Wiggle's team if he wants it.
I am waiting to hear back from TWW.
7. GMs will be replaced on a first-come, first-served basis at the discretion of the commissioner. If a departing GM wishes to nominate his/her replacement, the commissioner will consider that replacement’s candidacy.
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I would say nick should have first dibs on Wiggle's team if he wants it.
I am waiting to hear back from TWW.
7. GMs will be replaced on a first-come, first-served basis at the discretion of the commissioner. If a departing GM wishes to nominate his/her replacement, the commissioner will consider that replacement’s candidacy.
That's cool.
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I would be happy to take over The Walker Wiggle's team until such time as he wants to return or permanently, whichever it is. But I would have one request. Any trades made by TWW in the past 24-48 hours not be allowed to go through. I would want those draft choices he just traded away
Theres goes my trade, lol
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Will need some help on this: trimming Bacon's roster. Really shocked he did not submit a final roster under 16.
MakeMeSomeBacon - celtsrp33
Jonny Flynn
E'Twaun Moore
MarShon Brooks
Marco Belinelli
Chase Budinger
Derrick Brown
Ed Davis
Taj Gibson
Byron Mullens
Jason Maxiell
Jeremy Tyler
Kemba Walker
Nikola Vucevic
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Kyle Singler
Al Horford
Avery Bradley
Meyers Leonard
Mo Harkless
Tyler Zeller
Fab Melo
Miles Plumlee
6 must go. Flynn, Derrick Brown, CDR, and Tyler? Moore? Who else?
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Will need some help on this: trimming Bacon's roster. Really shocked he did not submit a final roster under 16.
MakeMeSomeBacon - celtsrp33
Jonny Flynn
E'Twaun Moore
MarShon Brooks
Marco Belinelli
Chase Budinger
Derrick Brown
Ed Davis
Taj Gibson
Byron Mullens
Jason Maxiell
Jeremy Tyler
Kemba Walker
Nikola Vucevic
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Kyle Singler
Al Horford
Avery Bradley
Meyers Leonard
Mo Harkless
Tyler Zeller
Fab Melo
Miles Plumlee
6 must go. Flynn, Derrick Brown, CDR, and Tyler? Moore? Who else?
Agreed with those cuts.
Here's one of his most recent posts:
I am willing to trade Fab Melo or Miles Plumlee for a 2nd round pick. Hit me up if you are interested!
So, I'd say one of those two as the last.
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Will need some help on this: trimming Bacon's roster. Really shocked he did not submit a final roster under 16.
MakeMeSomeBacon - celtsrp33
Jonny Flynn
E'Twaun Moore
MarShon Brooks
Marco Belinelli
Chase Budinger
Derrick Brown
Ed Davis
Taj Gibson
Byron Mullens
Jason Maxiell
Jeremy Tyler
Kemba Walker
Nikola Vucevic
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Kyle Singler
Al Horford
Avery Bradley
Meyers Leonard
Mo Harkless
Tyler Zeller
Fab Melo
Miles Plumlee
6 must go. Flynn, Derrick Brown, CDR, and Tyler? Moore? Who else?
Plumlee, Moore, CDR, Flynn, Brown, & Tyler
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I might cut Melo over Tyler, because of Bacon's willingness to move Melo for a 2nd, and because I know he was big on Tyler last year. Tough call though.
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I would be happy to take over The Walker Wiggle's team until such time as he wants to return or permanently, whichever it is. But I would have one request. Any trades made by TWW in the past 24-48 hours not be allowed to go through. I would want those draft choices he just traded away
Theres goes my trade, lol
Birdman, no, I made that deal with you in good faith, before transforming into the Hulk. And as I understand it, none of the issues that Roy brought up today invalidate our trade. So unless it receives seven votes against, I don't see why it shouldn't be approved.
Meanwhile, Nick, I may choose someone else. Several guys have been in touch with me already, and given that I've created this mess, I do want to handle it with some sensitivity, and with as much respect to all wishes as I can manage. I feel that responsibility. My hard feelings don't extend to you, I've just inadvertently involved you. I hope you understand.
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Also to save Lucky some work. (Unless this also rubs anybody the wrong way?) The
Draft Dodgers would cut Mehmet Okur. Mike Miller would've been next if the Tyrus Thomas trade wasn't scuttled.
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I'm sad to hear that TWW is really leaving! I hope you reconsider, the league will not be as fun if you actually quit.
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I would be happy to take over The Walker Wiggle's team until such time as he wants to return or permanently, whichever it is. But I would have one request. Any trades made by TWW in the past 24-48 hours not be allowed to go through. I would want those draft choices he just traded away
Theres goes my trade, lol
Birdman, no, I made that deal with you in good faith, before transforming into the Hulk. And as I understand it, none of the issues that Roy brought up today invalidate our trade. So unless it receives seven votes against, I don't see why it shouldn't be approved.
Meanwhile, Nick, I may choose someone else. Several guys have been in touch with me already, and given that I've created this mess, I do want to handle it with some sensitivity, and with as much respect to all wishes as I can manage. I feel that responsibility. My hard feelings don't extend to you, I've just inadvertently involved you. I hope you understand.
If part of the reason that nick is getting passed over here (despite being the only co-GM in the league) is because of his connection to my squad, I'd suggest you reconsider. He had nothing to do with me pointing out the rules we're bound by, which you apparently found to be objectionable.
I would join with others in suggesting that you reconsider and come back to the league. If you choose not to, though, I'd say that nick -- who has participated in the league for months -- deserves a team, rather than suggesting some outsider (especially in light of the fact that you said an hour ago that you didn't care who got the team).
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I love that we had all twenty managers return this season - that's a first. But when can we get Nick a team of his own?
Interesting that things have changed since this sentiment from a week ago.
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I might cut Melo over Tyler, because of Bacon's willingness to move Melo for a 2nd, and because I know he was big on Tyler last year. Tough call though.
There's a bit of logic here. If Melo or Plumlee were available for a second, but not Tyler, then perhaps that's the principle to operate under.
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I might cut Melo over Tyler, because of Bacon's willingness to move Melo for a 2nd, and because I know he was big on Tyler last year. Tough call though.
There's a bit of logic here. If Melo or Plumlee were available for a second, but not Tyler, then perhaps that's the principle to operate under.
yeah he was high on Tyler last year..still cant believe he isnt here
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I might cut Melo over Tyler, because of Bacon's willingness to move Melo for a 2nd, and because I know he was big on Tyler last year. Tough call though.
There's a bit of logic here. If Melo or Plumlee were available for a second, but not Tyler, then perhaps that's the principle to operate under.
yeah he was high on Tyler last year..still cant believe he isnt here
I know he was high on Tyler because I offered him a few trades lat year and this summer for him and he wasn't interested in trading him. Still, he i might have changed his mind.
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Cant wait for the waiver period..alot of solid players are available. Be just like the NBA signing period after the lockout was lifted, lol
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I would be happy to take over The Walker Wiggle's team until such time as he wants to return or permanently, whichever it is. But I would have one request. Any trades made by TWW in the past 24-48 hours not be allowed to go through. I would want those draft choices he just traded away
Theres goes my trade, lol
Birdman, no, I made that deal with you in good faith, before transforming into the Hulk. And as I understand it, none of the issues that Roy brought up today invalidate our trade. So unless it receives seven votes against, I don't see why it shouldn't be approved.
Meanwhile, Nick, I may choose someone else. Several guys have been in touch with me already, and given that I've created this mess, I do want to handle it with some sensitivity, and with as much respect to all wishes as I can manage. I feel that responsibility. My hard feelings don't extend to you, I've just inadvertently involved you. I hope you understand.
There's no problem, sir. I was just hoping to keep the spot warm for you until you wanted to come back.
Choose well. You are handing over the defending champions and a power in this league.
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Guys! Sorry! Just got to a cpu. Haven't read the board yet so hope I'm not too late...ugh.
FINAL CUTS:
Plumlee
Melo
D Brown
J Flynn
Etwaun Moore
CDR
EDIT:
Clearly I totally missed the 5pm deadline, BUT...You guys made the right choices apparently. Thank you all
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I dont even know where I am right now...tis is the league i am in right?
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I dont even know where I am right now...tis is the league i am in right?
You're in the points league, amigo. (Although I hear we have a vacancy in this league now. :P)
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I dont even know where I am right now...tis is the league i am in right?
You're in the points league, amigo. (Although I hear we have a vacancy in this league now. :P)
mmm i dont have where to look at my roster Do you have a link
ty in advance
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What about my trade with the Walker Wiggle? I know he is gone but we did had a trade yesterday. He said with him leaving, our trade will remain. Just want to know what everyone thinks
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What about my trade with the Walker Wiggle? I know he is gone but we did had a trade yesterday. He said with him leaving, our trade will remain. Just want to know what everyone thinks
I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave". He deleted his team, so he shouldn't have any say regarding any pending trades, in my mind.
At the same time, I thought it was a fair trade, and I didn't necessarily think it should have been scuttled by yesterday's deadline.
So, either way. I'm more interested in finding a replacement GM. Since Wiggle previously said he didn't care, and endorsed nick for a team, I'm not sure why nick wouldn't get the next franchise.
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What about my trade with the Walker Wiggle? I know he is gone but we did had a trade yesterday. He said with him leaving, our trade will remain. Just want to know what everyone thinks
I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave". He deleted his team, so he shouldn't have any say regarding any pending trades, in my mind.
At the same time, I thought it was a fair trade, and I didn't necessarily think it should have been scuttled by yesterday's deadline.
So, either way. I'm more interested in finding a replacement GM. Since Wiggle previously said he didn't care, and endorsed nick for a team, I'm not sure why nick wouldn't get the next franchise.
I think the trade should still go through, since he made the trade prior to quitting. if people want to veto it, then so be it, but the trade was completed when he was a member of the league.
And as for Nick, as you have said Ad nauseam , the rules are the rules. The rules clearly state that if you quit, you get to select a new manager. He left. He get's to pick his replacement. [I feel bad for Nick, since he has done nothing wrong, and obviously the defending champions team is desirable, but it wouldn't be comporting with the rules of the league, which we are apparently enforcing to the strictest letter. So Nick, it appears, needs to wait until an owner is removed (and then Lucky get's to decide, I believe, or till someone quits and hands their team over to him). Maybe not the best situation, but those are the rules.
Nick already acknowledged the rules. Wiggle already said he may pick someone else. Let him make his own decision.
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What about my trade with the Walker Wiggle? I know he is gone but we did had a trade yesterday. He said with him leaving, our trade will remain. Just want to know what everyone thinks
I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave". He deleted his team, so he shouldn't have any say regarding any pending trades, in my mind.
At the same time, I thought it was a fair trade, and I didn't necessarily think it should have been scuttled by yesterday's deadline.
So, either way. I'm more interested in finding a replacement GM. Since Wiggle previously said he didn't care, and endorsed nick for a team, I'm not sure why nick wouldn't get the next franchise.
Given that the trade happened while WW was in the league, it should still go down.
As far as a replacement manager goes, when you quit the league you were not immediately replaced. Otherwise this whole issue would never had happened.
I also believe after a day or so, you brought Nick in to be your replacement. You then backed off and stuck around.
The WW should be given some time, to be determined by Lucky, to come back. If he does not come back, at that point, Lucky can decide on a replacement GM from WW recommendations and other considerations.
Mk
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Given that the trade happened while WW was in the league, it should still go down.
As far as a replacement manager goes, when you quit the league you were not immediately replaced. Otherwise this whole issue would never had happened.
I also believe after a day or so, you brought Nick in to be your replacement. You then backed off and stuck around.
The WW should be given some time, to be determined by Lucky, to come back. If he does not come back, at that point, Lucky can decide on a replacement GM from WW recommendations and other considerations.
Agreed - the trade predated quitting and there's no appearance of collusion or anything goofy about it. And at this point it's past the review period with no veto. Trade should stand, and in my opinion should be put through at this point.
I like Nick and think he'd make a fine manager, but the rules clearly say WW has first crack at choosing a replacement, so that's what we should go by. There's no time window for how long he gets, so I'd say that's up to the commish's discretion.
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The trade: the GMs involved were supposed to notify me if the trade should NOT go through (if it was made with the intent of getting below the roster max). No such word from either, so, I will process.
Replacement GM: I haven't heard back from TWW about his suggestions for his replacement. I should also point out that two people on the blog had asked to be considered for a GM position in the H2H league well before yesterday's events, so I am considering them as well.
I will keep people updated with news.
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Trade on the board:
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Taj Gibson
Rubio & Friends send Landry Fields
Review period follows. I'll upload rosters after this review passes.
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Thanks Lucky and other GM's for allowing mine and WW trade to go through.
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And as for Nick, as you have said Ad nauseam , the rules are the rules. The rules clearly state that if you quit, you get to select a new manager. He left. He get's to pick his replacement. [I feel bad for Nick, since he has done nothing wrong, and obviously the defending champions team is desirable, but it wouldn't be comporting with the rules of the league, which we are apparently enforcing to the strictest letter. So Nick, it appears, needs to wait until an owner is removed (and then Lucky get's to decide, I believe, or till someone quits and hands their team over to him). Maybe not the best situation, but those are the rules.
I like Nick and think he'd make a fine manager, but the rules clearly say WW has first crack at choosing a replacement, so that's what we should go by. There's no time window for how long he gets, so I'd say that's up to the commish's discretion.
I think you guys might be confused by what the rule "clearly states":
GMs will be replaced on a first-come, first-served basis at the discretion of the commissioner. If a departing GM wishes to nominate his/her replacement, the commissioner will consider that replacement’s candidacy.
It doesn't say Wiggle's pick automatically gets chosen. It says that Lucky will consider that person, but there's absolutely nothing that says that person needs to be chosen.
Maybe if we're going to be a league that's so stringently run by the rules, the various GMs can take the time to read them. At that point, perhaps demeaning lectures about what the rules "clearly state" would have some meaning.
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And as for Nick, as you have said Ad nauseam , the rules are the rules. The rules clearly state that if you quit, you get to select a new manager. He left. He get's to pick his replacement. [I feel bad for Nick, since he has done nothing wrong, and obviously the defending champions team is desirable, but it wouldn't be comporting with the rules of the league, which we are apparently enforcing to the strictest letter. So Nick, it appears, needs to wait until an owner is removed (and then Lucky get's to decide, I believe, or till someone quits and hands their team over to him). Maybe not the best situation, but those are the rules.
I like Nick and think he'd make a fine manager, but the rules clearly say WW has first crack at choosing a replacement, so that's what we should go by. There's no time window for how long he gets, so I'd say that's up to the commish's discretion.
I think you guys might be confused by what the rule "clearly states":
GMs will be replaced on a first-come, first-served basis at the discretion of the commissioner. If a departing GM wishes to nominate his/her replacement, the commissioner will consider that replacement’s candidacy.
It doesn't say Wiggle's pick automatically gets chosen. It says that Lucky will consider that person, but there's absolutely nothing that says that person needs to be chosen.
Maybe if we're going to be a league that's so stringently run by the rules, the various GMs can take the time to read them. At that point, perhaps demeaning lectures about what the rules "clearly state" would have some meaning.
Fair point.
We can let the process run its course. Wiggle may (or may not) suggest a candidate and Lucky can weight that and make his choice for manager.
It sounds like there are likely to be 4 candidates, Nick, the two who posted about an opening prior to yesterday and a suggestion from wiggle (should he make one).
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And as for Nick, as you have said Ad nauseam , the rules are the rules. The rules clearly state that if you quit, you get to select a new manager. He left. He get's to pick his replacement. [I feel bad for Nick, since he has done nothing wrong, and obviously the defending champions team is desirable, but it wouldn't be comporting with the rules of the league, which we are apparently enforcing to the strictest letter. So Nick, it appears, needs to wait until an owner is removed (and then Lucky get's to decide, I believe, or till someone quits and hands their team over to him). Maybe not the best situation, but those are the rules.
I like Nick and think he'd make a fine manager, but the rules clearly say WW has first crack at choosing a replacement, so that's what we should go by. There's no time window for how long he gets, so I'd say that's up to the commish's discretion.
I think you guys might be confused by what the rule "clearly states":
GMs will be replaced on a first-come, first-served basis at the discretion of the commissioner. If a departing GM wishes to nominate his/her replacement, the commissioner will consider that replacement’s candidacy.
It doesn't say Wiggle's pick automatically gets chosen. It says that Lucky will consider that person, but there's absolutely nothing that says that person needs to be chosen.
Maybe if we're going to be a league that's so stringently run by the rules, the various GMs can take the time to read them. At that point, perhaps demeaning lectures about what the rules "clearly state" would have some meaning.
Fair enough. My mistake for misstating the rules. And sincerest apologies for any demeaning you may have felt while reading it.
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I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ
You guys, Champkind wrote me a really heartfelt private message, that I won't share the content of without his permission - but it got to me.
In fact, as of this afternoon, virtually every guy in the league has reached out to me. I appreciate it, sincerely.
So, while I do have some hard feelilngs, I will return to the league on ONE condition - that you all promise to mock me mercislessly for quitting in a huff yesterday. My boy Delonte would be proud.
Lucky will you resend me the link to the league, please?
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I love that we had all twenty managers return this season - that's a first. But when can we get Nick a team of his own?
Interesting that things have changed since this sentiment from a week ago.
I hadn't forgotten writing the above, by the way. Nick, I do appreciate your response yesterday and your understanding. It speaks volumes about you.
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I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ
You guys, Champkind wrote me a really heartfelt private message, that I won't share the content of without his permission - but it got to me.
In fact, as of this afternoon, virtually every guy in the league has reached out to me. I appreciate it, sincerely.
So, while I do have some hard feelilngs, I will return to the league on ONE condition - that you all promise to mock me mercislessly for quitting in a huff yesterday. My boy Delonte would be proud.
Lucky will you resend me the link to the league, please?
Sry, I quit mock other GM yesterday, but for you I will start again.
Glad to have you back and look forward to putting a beating on your team this season.
Mk
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Sry, I quit mock other GM yesterday, but for you I will start again.
Glad to have you back and look forward to putting a beating on your team this season.
Mk
You were just worried you were going to have to stick with your own draft picks going ahead.
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Welcome back Walker Wiggle!!!!!!!!!!!!! Felt like only yesterday that u left, oh wait, lol..but im hearing the theme song "Welcome Back Kotter" in my head
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I think it's only fair that TWW posts a video of him actually doing the walker wiggle to be back in.
glad you changed your mind.
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Sry, I quit mock other GM yesterday, but for you I will start again.
Glad to have you back and look forward to putting a beating on your team this season.
Mk
You were just worried you were going to have to stick with your own draft picks going ahead.
I can't lie. I was looking forward to the replacement GM waiving Machado next week. I guess I will have to wait until later this season when you waive him.
Mk
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I miss all the trade proposals and trades!! Im having withdraws
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I love that we had all twenty managers return this season - that's a first. But when can we get Nick a team of his own?
Interesting that things have changed since this sentiment from a week ago.
I hadn't forgotten writing the above, by the way. Nick, I do appreciate your response yesterday and your understanding. It speaks volumes about you.
The important thing is that you are back and now can make me eat my words as I make statements and predictions.
Ahhhh, the world is back the way it should be. :)
BTW, take your beating like a man during the season. See you in the playoffs.
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Yay! Glad to hear it. Sorry for Nick's or Alternate GM X's sake, though. I do think you should've made an alt called The Wilker Waggle and pretended to be a different guy.
But now that it's settled, can we all put away the drama and the hurt and let the healing begin? Just let it wash over you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvWrR4qSmKw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvWrR4qSmKw)
It's ok to weep a little as you silently mouth the crescendo. Strong men also cry. Strong men...also cry.
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I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ
You guys, Champkind wrote me a really heartfelt private message, that I won't share the content of without his permission - but it got to me.
In fact, as of this afternoon, virtually every guy in the league has reached out to me. I appreciate it, sincerely.
So, while I do have some hard feelilngs, I will return to the league on ONE condition - that you all promise to mock me mercislessly for quitting in a huff yesterday. My boy Delonte would be proud.
Lucky will you resend me the link to the league, please?
To be honest I think without you in the league nobody would tell me ow stupid my trades were, I couldn't give that up!
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I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ
You guys, Champkind wrote me a really heartfelt private message, that I won't share the content of without his permission - but it got to me.
In fact, as of this afternoon, virtually every guy in the league has reached out to me. I appreciate it, sincerely.
So, while I do have some hard feelilngs, I will return to the league on ONE condition - that you all promise to mock me mercislessly for quitting in a huff yesterday. My boy Delonte would be proud.
Lucky will you resend me the link to the league, please?
Great news! Welcome back WW, the league wouldn't have been the same without you. TP's to Champkind for coming up clutch in getting you to return.
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You guys, Champkind wrote me a really heartfelt private message, that I won't share the content of without his permission - but it got to me.
Fun fact: that heartfelt private message used the term "dickpunch" no fewer than three times.
It was only eight words long.
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I'm a little uncomfortable with Wiggle dictating policy from "beyond the grave".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-uyWAe0NhQ
You guys, Champkind wrote me a really heartfelt private message, that I won't share the content of without his permission - but it got to me.
In fact, as of this afternoon, virtually every guy in the league has reached out to me. I appreciate it, sincerely.
So, while I do have some hard feelilngs, I will return to the league on ONE condition - that you all promise to mock me mercislessly for quitting in a huff yesterday. My boy Delonte would be proud.
Lucky will you resend me the link to the league, please?
To be honest I think without you in the league nobody would tell me ow stupid my trades were, I couldn't give that up!
Well, if you want, I'll tell you how stupid your trades are! ;D
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To be honest I think without you in the league nobody would tell me ow stupid my trades were, I couldn't give that up!
Yeah, I need to get back to that.
Kwhit sends Kendall Marshall, Jan Vesely, own 2013 1st, Utah Flash 2013 1st
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Al Horford and Jason Maxiell
Roofies? Full disclosure, I'm biased, I offered MMSB much more for Horford, though no 1sts. But to trade away a top 20-30 player and not land one NBA starter is rough. Heck, even odds that Maxiell out produces Marshall and Vesely.
MakeMeSomeBacon sends Taj Gibson
Rubio & Friends send Landry Fields
This deal is solid. I'd rather have Fields, but only because he was once a draft pick of mine.*
*Sung to the tune of Scarborough Fair.
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[copied from the Points league announcement]
I am in the process of uploading rosters.
GMs should double check the roster page on google, to be sure there are no mistakes.
Also, please check the league settings, to be sure I haven't overlooked something.
Teams that have less than 16 players will see a random draftee for each available roster slot. Yahoo! will not let me complete an offline draft with any team having fewer than 16 picks. So, if you see a guy on your squad who doesn't belong there, this is why.
Lastly, there are a couple of players on rosters who are not yet in the Yahoo! system: Pietrus, Barbosa, Oden, etc. I have bolded those players on the google doc, and have assigned a placeholder to complete the draft (see above). If a GM wishes to retain the rights to one of these players, he must devote an open roster slot (a "ghost" slot, of sorts), per the constitution; in other words, he must immediately drop the random player. Otherwise, the moment this empty slot is filled, the rights to that player are relinquished, and he becomes a free agent whenever he is entered into the Yahoo! pool of players.
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I'm going to flip the switch tomorrow morning.
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Rosters are up. Waiver period begins.
Waiver priority is based on order of regular season finish from last season, with the exception of the two finalists receiving 1st and 2nd priority (The Walker Wiggle and Yall Hate, respectively).
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Yahoo! is seriously screwing with me this morning. Along with refusing to allow me to post in the forums, they added Leandro Barbosa overnight, after I had uploaded rosters.
Upshot: Rondo, I've added Barbosa to your roster, without adversely affecting your waiver priority.
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Done got my lineup set, lol. But i cant drop anyone so im set when the season starts.
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Rosters are up. Waiver period begins.
Waiver priority is based on order of regular season finish from last season, with the exception of the two finalists receiving 1st and 2nd priority (The Walker Wiggle and Yall Hate, respectively).
TP!
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TP to u Lucky for doing a great job on both leagues!
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Hey Lucky, not sure what's up on the agenda, but would it be possible to lock down our swap rights rules before the season starts? I want to make sure we all know what is and isn't kosher before the ball gets rolling.
Personally I'd prefer no swap rights on 2nds, with a single swap right on 1sts that can be traded with the pick. It's moderately flexible without getting ridiculously complex. But I'm open to other suggestions.
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I can put up a poll. How should it be phrased?
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I can put up a poll. How should it be phrased?
Hmm. Might be best to split it - first decide how rights can be attached, then when we sort that out decide what happens if they're traded.
So for the first one, options could be something like:
Unlimited swap rights for 1st and 2nd rounders
Unlimited swap rights for 1sts, none for 2nds
1sts and 2nds can have one swap right attached.
1sts can have one swap right attached, no swap rights for 2nds.
No swap rights for 1sts or 2nds.
Obviously if we did the last one we'd have to grandfather in deals that have already been made. But I don't think that'll win anyway.
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I can put up a poll. How should it be phrased?
Hmm. Might be best to split it - first decide how rights can be attached, then when we sort that out decide what happens if they're traded.
So for the first one, options could be something like:
Unlimited swap rights for 1st and 2nd rounders
Unlimited swap rights for 1sts, none for 2nds
1sts and 2nds can have one swap right attached.
1sts can have one swap right attached, no swap rights for 2nds.
No swap rights for 1sts or 2nds.
Obviously if we did the last one we'd have to grandfather in deals that have already been made. But I don't think that'll win anyway.
Forgot all about this. I'll put something up, provided others think it's something that requires attention.
Also, I seem to recall some concern over the length of the trade review period. Do people think we should consider extending trade review to 2 days?
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Looking for a PG, Looking to package Bass and my #1
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I can put up a poll. How should it be phrased?
Hmm. Might be best to split it - first decide how rights can be attached, then when we sort that out decide what happens if they're traded.
So for the first one, options could be something like:
Unlimited swap rights for 1st and 2nd rounders
Unlimited swap rights for 1sts, none for 2nds
1sts and 2nds can have one swap right attached.
1sts can have one swap right attached, no swap rights for 2nds.
No swap rights for 1sts or 2nds.
Obviously if we did the last one we'd have to grandfather in deals that have already been made. But I don't think that'll win anyway.
Forgot all about this. I'll put something up, provided others think it's something that requires attention.
Also, I seem to recall some concern over the length of the trade review period. Do people think we should consider extending trade review to 2 days?
before you post the poll, or when you do can you explain "swap rights".... do we mean conditions?
Personally, I don't have any problem with making 1st rounder deals complex (i.e. team A gets the better of team B's two 1st rounder...), but 2nds should just be dealt as is, no conditions.
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I meant just "right to swap 1st/2nd rd picks with other owner" deals, not trade conditions in general, though we're welcome to cover that too.
I just think we should have a firm rule on swap rights because it's a pretty common practice, and because I have a vested interest - if I trade my 1st I think the swap rights with Birdman should stay attached (and if he trades his they'd darn well better), but that's up in the air right now.
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Hey all. I come to you with questions today. I am drafting tomorrow in a 12 team h2h auction with 2 keepers. The following are the stats:
FGM FG% FTM FT% 3PTM PTS REB AST ST BLK TO
What strategy do you suggest? The league is somewhat competitive (not near as detail oriented as this league though). Do I put categories? Do I go for quality across the boards?
Thanks in advance!
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Hey all. I come to you with questions today. I am drafting tomorrow in a 12 team h2h auction with 2 keepers. The following are the stats:
FGM FG% FTM FT% 3PTM PTS REB AST ST BLK TO
What strategy do you suggest? The league is somewhat competitive (not near as detail oriented as this league though). Do I put categories? Do I go for quality across the boards?
Thanks in advance!
I would start by looking at the two trade offers I sent you on yahoo!
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I just realize the team in the league I am still in is becomeing really really good this year.... ;D
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Hey all. I come to you with questions today. I am drafting tomorrow in a 12 team h2h auction with 2 keepers. The following are the stats:
FGM FG% FTM FT% 3PTM PTS REB AST ST BLK TO
What strategy do you suggest? The league is somewhat competitive (not near as detail oriented as this league though). Do I put categories? Do I go for quality across the boards?
Thanks in advance!
I would check with me before you do any deal with Rondo.
What are team lineups like? One center, or two, for instance?
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Hey all. I come to you with questions today. I am drafting tomorrow in a 12 team h2h auction with 2 keepers. The following are the stats:
FGM FG% FTM FT% 3PTM PTS REB AST ST BLK TO
What strategy do you suggest? The league is somewhat competitive (not near as detail oriented as this league though). Do I put categories? Do I go for quality across the boards?
Thanks in advance!
I would start by looking at the two trade offers I sent you on yahoo!
haha. fair enough.
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Hey all. I come to you with questions today. I am drafting tomorrow in a 12 team h2h auction with 2 keepers. The following are the stats:
FGM FG% FTM FT% 3PTM PTS REB AST ST BLK TO
What strategy do you suggest? The league is somewhat competitive (not near as detail oriented as this league though). Do I put categories? Do I go for quality across the boards?
Thanks in advance!
I would check with me before you do any deal with Rondo.
What are team lineups like? One center, or two, for instance?
I'm an equal opportunity trader. The team makeup is:
PG, SG, G, SF, PF, F, C, C, Util, Util
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I've posted a couple of polls. Please weigh in when you have a moment.
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anybody else having trouble with yahoo's fantasy bball today? If I'm lucky enough to see my team, it wont let me sub in my players today.
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nevermind. all is good now.
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anybody else having trouble with yahoo's fantasy bball today? If I'm lucky enough to see my team, it wont let me sub in my players today.
I've had problems all day checking my lineups. Still can't do much.
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anybody else having trouble with yahoo's fantasy bball today? If I'm lucky enough to see my team, it wont let me sub in my players today.
I've had problems all day checking my lineups. Still can't do much.
yea, the yahoo website is extremely slow and unstable today
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Looking for a PG and PF. If you have one available, let me know.
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Looking for someone to help co-manage a team. PM me if you're interested.
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Bump. It's possible we'll need several co-managers to assist GMs in this H2H league.
PM me if you are interested in helping out.
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Bump. It's possible we'll need several co-managers to assist GMs in this H2H league.
PM me if you are interested in helping out.
It's definitely a cool league, even if the best you can hope for is second place.
I'd encourage anybody to join. blake's team, in particular, is very, very strong.
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Ditto!!! Great league and its always active..no deadbeats
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Plus alot of trade offers..i guaratee u, u will get one from me right off the bat!!
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Still need someone to step up and help co-manage a team. Please PM me if you'd like to get into a H2H league on Yahoo!
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What's this all about?
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What's this all about?
One of our GMs, blake, is looking for someone to help him run his H2H team in the Celticsblog fantasy league we've set up in Yahoo!
If you want details/more info, PM me. I can let you know more about the league and blake's team.
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It a great league folks!! Better get on board while u can!!
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Season may be over (congrats again to FWF), but there is still business to attend to in the league: currently, we have a poll up for a proposed rule change.
Hope you all are continuing to check in on the league.
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It's definitely a cool league, even if the best you can hope for is second place.
*cough*
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bump
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I knew from the moment the top 3 protection on my 2013 1st was vetoed that I was destined for tonight's lottery.
Here's who everyone is rooting for (or against) assuming I read the trade document correctly.
1. Orlando Magic 25.0% - Larry Bird 17
2. Charlotte Bobcats 19.9% - Make Me Some Bacon
3. Cleveland Cavaliers 15.6% - Wumpian Imperialists
4. Phoenix Suns 11.9% - Juggernauts2 via Webskins
5. New Orleans Pelicans 8.8% - Make Me Some Bacon via Juggernauts2
6. Sacramento Kings 6.3% - Utah Flash via Toine's Boys
7. Detroit Pistons 3.6% - Rubio & Friends
8. Washington Wizards 3.5% - Birdman via North Pond Hermits
9. Minnesota Timberwolves 1.7% - Kwhit10 via Ya'll Hate
10. Portland Trailblazers 1.1% - The Rusted Rims via rights to swap with Birdman
11. Philadelphia 76ers 0.8% - Make Me Some Bacon via Kwhit10
12. Toronto Raptors 0.7% - Make Me Some Bacon via Utah Flash
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Congrats to the Wumpian Imperialists! I believe this is two years in a row (albeit under different management) that this franchise has gotten the #1 pick.
Anyone looking to talk trade, hit me up!
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I'll update this thread soon with a complete draft order for both rounds in the near future. Promise.
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Congrats to the Wumpian Imperialists! I believe this is two years in a row (albeit under different management) that this franchise has gotten the #1 pick.
Anyone looking to talk trade, hit me up!
Congrats to the WI!
Sadly for the UF, being matched up with the Sacramento Kings cost me a spot in the draft!!!!!!
I blame Keith Smart.
Mk
PS. The UF front office is officially open for the 2013/14 Season.
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Wumpian Imperialists?
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I knew from the moment the top 3 protection on my 2013 1st was vetoed that I was destined for tonight's lottery.
8. Washington Wizards 3.5% - Birdman via North Pond Hermits
Hilarious.
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does anyone have the draft pick order for both rounds? I believe I had a 2nd round pick but I can't remember where or from who
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does anyone have the draft pick order for both rounds? I believe I had a 2nd round pick but I can't remember where or from who
only go by Lucky's official list, but this is close (if not copied from his list)
1 Wumpian Imperialists
2 Larry Bird 17
3 Birdman
4 MMSB
5 Juggernauts
6 MMSB
7 Utah Flash
8 Rubio&Friends
9 Kwhit
10 Birdman (7*)
11 MMSB
12 MMSB
13 Kwhit
14 blake
15 MMSB
16 Juggernauts
17 Password is taco
18 Webskins
19 Juggernauts
20 Webskins
21 Wumpian Imperialists
22 Larry Bird 17
23 Draft Dodgers
24 Make Me Some Bacon
25 Gainesville Celtics
26 Kwhit
27 Kwhit
28 Rubio&Friends
29 Toine's Boys
30 Kwhit
31 Kwhit
32 Draft Dodgers
33 Rubio & Friends
34 blake
35 Gainesville Celtics
36 The Rusted Rims
37 Password is taco
38 Webskins
39 Kobe's Ko-Rapists
40 Too Talented to Fail
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does anyone have the draft pick order for both rounds? I believe I had a 2nd round pick but I can't remember where or from who
only go by Lucky's official list, but this is close (if not copied from his list)
1 Wumpian Imperialists
2 Larry Bird 17
3 Birdman
4 MMSB
5 Juggernauts
6 MMSB
7 Utah Flash
8 Rubio&Friends
9 Kwhit
10 Birdman (7*)
11 MMSB
12 MMSB
13 Kwhit
14 blake
15 MMSB
16 Juggernauts
17 Password is taco
18 Webskins
19 Juggernauts
20 Webskins
21 Wumpian Imperialists
22 Larry Bird 17
23 Draft Dodgers
24 Make Me Some Bacon
25 Gainesville Celtics
26 Kwhit
27 Kwhit
28 Rubio&Friends
29 Toine's Boys
30 Kwhit
31 Kwhit
32 Draft Dodgers
33 Rubio & Friends
34 blake
35 Gainesville Celtics
36 The Rusted Rims
37 Password is taco
38 Webskins
39 Kobe's Ko-Rapists
40 Too Talented to Fail
awesome, thanks GC, TP
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Top of the second round should look a little different, as it isn't determined by lottery results.
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I have Birdman's 1st (#10) from a right-to-swap deal.
I also don't have my 2nd rounder - I traded it to MMSB at the deadline with AJ Price for Nate-Rob.
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I have Birdman's 1st (#10) from a right-to-swap deal.
I also don't have my 2nd rounder - I traded it to MMSB at the deadline with AJ Price for Nate-Rob.
Like i said y'all.... ONLY GO BY LUCKY'S list... I was just providing for (bad) evaluation purposes 8)
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I'll post a fully documented list via google docs in the very near future. Might even get to it this weekend.
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How's this?
1. Wumpian Imperialists
2. Larry Bird 17
3. Birdman (via North Pond Hermits)
4. Make Me Some Bacon
5. Juggernauts2 (via Webskins)
6. Make Me Some Bacon (via Juggernauts2)
7. Utah Flash (via Toine's Boys)
8. Rubio & Friends
9. Kwhit10 (via Ya'll Hate)
10. Rusted Rims (via rights to swap with Birdman)
11. Make Me Some Bacon (via Kwhit10)
12. Make Me Some Bacon (via Utah Flash)
13. Kwhit10 (via Lucky 17)
14. Blake
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Gainesville Celtics)
16. Password is Taco
17. Juggernauts2 (via Kobe's Ko-Rapists)
18. Webskins (via Too Talented to Fail)
19. Webskins (via Designated Drinkers*)
20. Juggernauts2 (via Birdman after swap with Rusted Rims*)
| 21. Larry Bird 17
22. Make Me Some Bacon
23. Wumpian Imperialists
24. Gainesville Celtics (via Webskins)
25. Kwhit10 (via Juggernauts2)
26. Kwhit10 (via Toine's Boys)
27. Rubio & Friends
28. North Pond Hermits
29. Toine's Boys (via Ya'll Hate)
30. Kwhit10 (via Birdman)
31. Kwhit10
32. North Pond Hermits (via Utah Flash)
33. Rubio & Friends (via Lucky 17)
34. Blake
35. Gainesville Celtics
36. Make Me Some Bacon (via Rusted Rims)
37. Password is Taco
38. Webskins (via Designated Drinkers)
39. Kobe's Ko-Rapists
40. Too Talented to Fail
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*The League Champion and Runner-up are awarded the 20th and 19th picks respectively.
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Yes, got #3 pick (North Pond)...Yes, Rusted Rims and I traded picks..he has the right to swap picks
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Trying to remember what trade i made with Juggernaut when I traded RR ist(20th)..help, lol
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Trying to remember what trade i made with Juggernaut when I traded RR ist(20th)..help, lol
According to Yahoo you dealt Fab Melo and the Rusted Rims' pick for Chris Kaman. (http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/4065/transactions?filter=trade)
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Trying to remember what trade i made with Juggernaut when I traded RR ist(20th)..help, lol
Site says Melo + 1st for Kaman - ring a bell?
EDIT: What Wiggle said.
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Dang just realize that i just have 1 TOTAL pick in both leagues (#3 pick in H2H and none in points)...And chances of me trading this pick is very high..
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Trying to remember what trade i made with Juggernaut when I traded RR ist(20th)..help, lol
Site says Melo + 1st for Kaman - ring a bell?
EDIT: What Wiggle said.
WWTWWS
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Trying to remember what trade i made with Juggernaut when I traded RR ist(20th)..help, lol
Site says Melo + 1st for Kaman - ring a bell?
EDIT: What Wiggle said.
Yes, thanks..i knew i traded it but couldnt remember for who
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Dang just realize that i just have 1 TOTAL pick in both leagues (#3 pick in H2H and none in points)...And chances of me trading this pick is very high..
Did someone say trade!! :o
I only have 1 pick between both leagues to, the #7 pick in the H2H. I am always interested in available picks though...
Btw WW or should I say NPH, the NPH? Anyway, your late season pickups of Chris Copeland and Evan Fournier look outstanding. Needless to say, I am jealous.
Mk
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I'm up for trade talks! I apparently have the 29th pick, and here's my roster. I'm open to trading up, down, or out of the draft, and also to non-draft pick deals.
Here's my roster:
29th pick in 2013 draft
Iman Shumpert
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Ian Mahinmi
Beno Udrih
Reggie Jackson
Jordan Hamilton
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
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yeah, theres only 3 players I like in this draft but I dont love them, lol..so im opening to trading my 3rd pick if anyone is interested...Now Lucky, when is trading season open up??
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I'm up for trade talks! I apparently have the 29th pick, and here's my roster. I'm open to trading up, down, or out of the draft, and also to non-draft pick deals.
Here's my roster:
29th pick in 2013 draft
Iman Shumpert
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Ian Mahinmi
Beno Udrih
Reggie Jackson
Jordan Hamilton
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Speaking of jealousy, both Reggie Jackson and Harrison Barnes had major playoff breakouts.
I would not be surprised if OKC lets Martin walk, with Jackson filling the Harden void. Hopefully, my guy Jeremy Lamb will *finally* get some run there to.
Plus, Iman also showed some flashed of his former self.
Mk
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yeah, theres only 3 players I like in this draft but I dont love them, lol..so im opening to trading my 3rd pick if anyone is interested...Now Lucky, when is trading season open up??
I like 10-11 players in this draft, although I am a very beer-glass-half full type of guy.
Mk
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I'm up for trade talks! I apparently have the 29th pick, and here's my roster. I'm open to trading up, down, or out of the draft, and also to non-draft pick deals.
Here's my roster:
29th pick in 2013 draft
Iman Shumpert
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Ian Mahinmi
Beno Udrih
Reggie Jackson
Jordan Hamilton
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Speaking of jealousy, both Reggie Jackson and Harrison Barnes had major playoff breakouts.
I would not be surprised if OKC lets Martin walk, with Jackson filling the Harden void. Hopefully, my guy Jeremy Lamb will *finally* get some run there to.
Plus, Iman also showed some flashed of his former self.
Mk
Thanks Mk. Hibbert is having quite the playoff run himself too, and Vasquez had a huge breakout season. I expect Lamb to have a breakout year for you next year, he's legit.
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Thanks Mk. Hibbert is having quite the playoff run himself too, and Vasquez had a huge breakout season. I expect Lamb to have a breakout year for you next year, he's legit.
It's funny about Hibbert. After he signed that big contract, he played awful the first half of the season. A lot of NBA analysis guys were way down on him. I believe he made some mid-season All Disappointment teams.
Now he's become the Destroyer of Small-Ball, the LBJ Antidote, and Sir Swat Alot.
I am just happy that I didn't trade him!
Mk
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Did someone say trade!! :o
Mk
now you're talking!
Besides Picks #25 and #35 we have:
Al Harrington
Al Jefferson
Alan Anderson
Andrei Kirilenko
C.J. Miles
Elton Brand
Jason Maxiell
Jodie Meeks
Lavoy Allen
Marcus Morris
Metta World Peace
Mo Williams
Nikola Vucevic
Rodney Stuckey
Russell Westbrook
Will Barton
Only Westbrook is (nearly) untouchable.
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I have some interest in acquiring a decent second round pick.
Shoot me an offer.
Just saying...
Mk
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Marcus Thornton
Greivis Vasquez
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
Bismack Biyombo
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
Nikola Pekovic
John Henson
Jeremy Lamb
MarShon Brooks
Nando De Colo
Mirza Teletovic
Orlando Johnson
#7 overall
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My #3 pick is up for a trade ;D
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My #3 pick is up for a trade ;D
I'm having an honest to god Charlie Brown moment right now.
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I have picks # 9, 13, 25, 26, 30, and 31.
I will definitely be looking to trade some of those second rounders (25, 26, 30, 31) if people are looking for picks.
If someone wants a package of those 2nd rounders for a future first, let me know.
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NBA draft day, the third most exciting draft behind the two Lucky league drafts.
Just saying.
Mk
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNiHAp_CEAEpvoO.jpg)
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Calderon
Afflalo
David West
Kobe
Amir Johnson
Kevin Martin
Shawn Marion
Mario Chalmers
are all available
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MarShon Brooks a Celtic? I couldn't be happier!
Well that's not true. Danny could have drafted Adetokoubo, Schroeder, or Shabazz instead of Robert Swift. That would have made me much happier.
(http://i.qkme.me/3v0b21.jpg)
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Both of my picks are available. Also willing to mess up my roster a bit:
Darren Collison
Randy Foye
Raymond Felton
Chauncey Billups
Al-Farouq Aminu
Kevin Durant
Chris Bosh
Michael Beasley
Larry Sanders
Samuel Dalembert
Kyrie Irving
Tornike Shengelia
Andrea Bargnani
Jason Richardson
Anderson Varejao
Mike Scott
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Looking to move some combination of Udrih, Mahinmi, Turkoglu, and possibly Reggie Jackson along with #29 to move up in the draft. Hit me up if interested.
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Have a high pick and don't want to wait for results because most kids in this draft won't be very productive for a couple years, hit me or Roy up.
KG
Pierce
Howard
Chandler
Ray Allen
Jared Dudley
...
...
...
...
We are willing to seriously discuss and move anyone.
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First trade of the offseason has been agreed upon. The commish will announce the details when ready.
I'm always open for more trade discussions if anyone is interested.
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First trade of the offseason has been agreed upon. The commish will announce the details when ready.
I'm always open for more trade discussions if anyone is interested.
What is it? Dying to know lol..also my 3rd pick is available
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I'll get to this soon, but it's low on my list of priorities at the moment.
In fact, I think I may impose an informal/unofficial trade moratorium until the NBA free agency period passes next week.
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I'll announce the following, but won't be updating rosters or draft order for some time:
Toines Boys trade Reggie Jackson
Blake trades picks #14 and #34
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I'll announce the following, but won't be updating rosters or draft order for some time:
Toines Boys trade Reggie Jackson
Blake trades picks #14 and #34
Trading is OPEN!?!?!! Why didn't anyone tell me??!?? ;D ;D
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I'll announce the following, but won't be updating rosters or draft order for some time:
Toines Boys trade Reggie Jackson
Blake trades picks #14 and #34
Interesting...
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I am always open to trade discussions. I may even be willing to give up one of the newest Celtics, MarShon Brooks, for the right price.
Mk
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Marcus Thornton
Greivis Vasquez
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
Bismack Biyombo
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
Nikola Pekovic
John Henson
Jeremy Lamb
MarShon Brooks
Nando De Colo
Mirza Teletovic
Orlando Johnson
#7 overall
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#3 pick is on the market!! Theres a slight chance i will keep it and have some offers for it
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This is the Gainesville Celtics roster... very open to moving guys not named Russell Westbrook
Al Harrington
Al Jefferson
Alan Anderson
Andrei Kirilenko
C.J. Miles
Elton Brand
Jason Maxiell
Jodie Meeks
Lavoy Allen
Marcus Morris
Metta World Peace
Mo Williams
Nikola Vucevic
Rodney Stuckey
Russell Westbrook
Will Barton
Pick #25
Pick #35
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I have picks 4,6.11,12 and 15 along with 2 second rounders as well. I am willing to package a couple picks for a better pick or for some young upside. I am in Celtic style rebuild mode so don't bother offering me Kmart for a 1st...
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Can someone please supply the googledocs links for rosters and picks for me please?
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Can someone please supply the googledocs links for rosters and picks for me please?
Bump.
Anyone?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
Last edited May 25.
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Thanks Lucky. Do we have a log of rosters as well?
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Thanks Lucky. Do we have a log of rosters as well?
fwiw you can access the archived rosters via Yahoo!
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anyone looking to ditch a 2013 1st rounder for a couple of 2nd rounders in the more highly touted 2014 draft, hit me up
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Guys, if anyone want this 3rd pick, u better send some offers b/c i got a few GMs who are wanting it
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so what's the rule this year on players who entered the 2013 draft but went undrafted, can we pick them in our draft?
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Both Thornton or Brooks each available for a 2013 or 2014 #1.
PM me, if you are interested.
Mk
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so what's the rule this year on players who entered the 2013 draft but went undrafted, can we pick them in our draft?
Yes, per usual.
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so what's the rule this year on players who entered the 2013 draft but went undrafted, can we pick them in our draft?
Yes, per usual.
sounds good, thanks Lucky.
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do we have a date for the draft yet?
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do we have a date for the draft yet?
No, but it will probably be during the week after Labor Day, as usual.
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Looking to make a trade or two here...
I have a number of picks (4,6.11,12 and 15 along with 2 second rounders) and a lot of young talent. Looking to consolidate by trading a pick or two along with a player for one player or one high pick. Hit me up!
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We have an agreed deal....pending Luckys/league approval.
mkogav sends
Pekovic, Bismack Biyombo, and Marshon Brooks
to MMSB For
#6, #11, #22, & #36 in 2013 draft
what do you all think? I still have 3 first round picks and I think Pekovic is legit and a better quality player than what I will get at #6 or #11.
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I think it's a fair deal for both sides. Pekovich is a quality big man, and Biyombo and Brooks have some potential. Somehow Mk always finds great value in the draft and on the waiver wire, so I have the feeling this will work out very well for him in the long run though.
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I still have 3 first round picks - 4, 12, 15 and many young players with upside. I also just acquired Pekovic, Biyombo and Marshon Brooks if anyone is interested in making any offers. I am willing to listen to ANYTHING! Shoot me over an offer!
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I like this one better for MMSB - but as noted, it's always hard to go against MK as he seems to win most trades. I'd be surprised, in a down year, to turn the 6 pick into a better player than Pekovik (says the guy who drafted T-Rob last year. ::))
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I like this one better for MMSB - but as noted, it's always hard to go against MK as he seems to win most trades. I'd be surprised, in a down year, to turn the 6 pick into a better player than Pekovik (says the guy who drafted T-Rob last year. ::))
Thanks YH - that was my thinking exactly. If anyone else is interested in any of my picks or players - hit me up. I am looking for young upside and nothing else. Doesn't matter what position but any player you offer should be younger than 25 and have the chance to break out at some point in the next 2 years. :-)
I would also consider packaging #12 and #15 for an early Lottery pick
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Marcus Thornton, Orlando Johnson, and Mizra "The Bosnian Steve Novak" Teletovic are all available for draft picks (2013 or 2014) or packaged with one of my current picks to move up.
Current UF picks: 6, 7, 11, 14, 22, & 37
Mk
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Marcus Thornton, Orlando Johnson, and Mizra "The Bosnian Steve Novak" Teletovic are all available for draft picks (2013 or 2014) or packaged with one of my current picks to move up.
Current UF picks: 6, 7, 11, 14, 22, & 37
Mk
From Nets presser: Jason Kidd called Mirza Teletovic an "important" part of the team and said he's likely to have a bigger role this season.
Need 3s and rebounds? The Bosnian Steve Novak is available. No reasonable offer refused!!!
Mk
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Still looking to make some moves, get at me
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do we have an updated google doc for the H2H league like the one that was posted for the Pts league?
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(http://pingshoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-06-at-11.04.47-AM.png)
One day only sale!!!!!!
Mizra, Orlando Johnson, & #37 in this year's draft for any higher pick!
ACT NOW! Operators are standing by. This deal won't last forever!!
Mk
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Just wanted to inform everyone that I have taken over senior GM duties with the TTTF. Roy will still be co-GMing but primary decision making power now rests with me. So if you are looking for some talent, hit me up with offers:
Ray Allen
Tony Allen
Tyson Chandler
Jamal Crawford
Jared Dudley
Tim Duncan
Danilo Gallinari
Kevin Garnett
Jrue Holiday
Dwight Howard
Dirk Nowitzki
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Amar'e Stoudemire
Deron Williams
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The #28 and #32 picks are on the block, also willing to discuss the roster top to bottom.
PG Chris Paul
PG Steve Nash
SG Manu Ginobili
SG Jason Terry
SF Carlos Delfino
SF Marvin Williams
PF Gerald Wallace
PF Carl Landry
C Pau Gasol
C Nene Hilario
U Evan Fournier
BN Kirk Hinrich
BN Wayne Ellington
BN Chris Copeland
BN Charlie Villanueva
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(http://pingshoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-06-at-11.04.47-AM.png)
One day only sale!!!!!!
Mizra, Orlando Johnson, & #37 in this year's draft for any higher pick!
ACT NOW! Operators are standing by. This deal won't last forever!!
Mk
True to his word, Mk has now sent Mirza, OJ, and #37 to Toine's Boys for the #29 pick
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(http://pingshoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screen-Shot-2013-01-06-at-11.04.47-AM.png)
One day only sale!!!!!!
Mizra, Orlando Johnson, & #37 in this year's draft for any higher pick!
ACT NOW! Operators are standing by. This deal won't last forever!!
Mk
True to his word, Mk has now sent Mirza, OJ, and #37 to Toine's Boys for the #29 pick
TP TB!!!!!
Marcus Thornton is still available for the right price.
Mk
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True to his word, Mk has now sent Mirza, OJ, and #37 to Toine's Boys for the #29 pick
TP TB!!!!!
Marcus Thornton is still available for the right price.
Mk
Slight correction on this trade. I made a mistake in my original post. I received the #36 pick from MMSB which I then traded to TB as a part of this deal.
The deal is actually,
Utah Flash send Mirza, OJ, and #36
Toine's Boys send the #29 pick
Mk
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I probably won't start seeking out trades for awhile, but if anyone is looking to snag a little bit of championship swagger, here's my roster:
Brandon Knight
Jameer Nelson
Nate Robinson
Patrick Beverley
DJ Augustin
OJ Mayo
Danny Green
JR Smith
Klay Thompson
Rudy Gay
Carmelo Anthony
Chandler Parsons
Reggie Evans
Greg Monroe
Omer Asik
Jermaine O'Neal
#10
Everyone's available for the right offer though Carmelo or Monroe will take a blockbuster. I have tons of wings so legit PGs and PF/Cs are preferred. Little to no interest in 2nd rounders.
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(http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hibbert-hangs-posters-carmelo-block-man-cave.jpg)
I am willing to package the #29 pick with either #11 or #22 to move up a couple of spots, maybe even one spot.
Offers like these don't last forever!
Mk
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(http://www.fantasy-sports.com/storage/nba-meme.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1351021671164)
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Yeah, all the sandbox leagues breaking out is making me antsy for fantasy to get going. Hope we get a draft date soon so more owners can make it this year.
Also, I've just realized that I suddenly have the Bucks' starting backcourt. If anyone wants to forfeit now, I'd understand.
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With the DKC League now on hiatus, hoping to turn my attention to the two Yahoo! leagues. Hope to have things all squared away and ready for drafts the week of Sept 9.
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With the DKC League now on hiatus, hoping to turn my attention to the two Yahoo! leagues. Hope to have things all squared away and ready for drafts the week of Sept 9.
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If a team becomes available I would like BACK IN!!!!
Life will not be as hectic now with the new baby being older and healthy!!!!
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in Points and/or H2H
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Always open for trade talks!
Toine's Boys Roster:
Iman Shumpert
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Ian Mahinmi
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jordan Hamilton
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Nando De Colo
Orlando Johnson
Mirza Teletovich
2013 #34
2013 #36
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3rd pick is available
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TTTF:
Ray Allen
Tony Allen
Tyson Chandler
Jamal Crawford
Jared Dudley
Tim Duncan
Danilo Gallinari
Kevin Garnett
Jrue Holiday
Dwight Howard
Dirk Nowitzki
Tony Parker
Paul Pierce
J.J. Redick
Amar'e Stoudemire
Deron Williams
Want one of these guys, PM me.
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In case anyone missed trades that were agreed to during the offseason, I will be bumping the announcements today, and then updating the draft order in anticipation of the draft during the week of Sept 9.
Note: trades involving 2014 picks will not be announced until next week.
Here's one that was already announced:
I'll announce the following, but won't be updating rosters or draft order for some time:
Toines Boys trade Reggie Jackson
Blake trades picks #14 and #34
Here's the next I have yet to confirm/process:
We have an agreed deal....pending Luckys/league approval.
mkogav sends
Pekovic, Bismack Biyombo, and Marshon Brooks
to MMSB For
#6, #11, #22, & #36 in 2013 draft
what do you all think? I still have 3 first round picks and I think Pekovic is legit and a better quality player than what I will get at #6 or #11.
For the record, that's:
Utah Flash trades Nik Pekovic, Bismack Biyombo, and Marshon Brooks
MakeMeSomeBacon trades 2013 picks #6, #11, #22, and #36
I'll let this one simmer for league review before moving on to the next trade announcement.
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We have an agreed deal....pending Luckys/league approval.
mkogav sends
Pekovic, Bismack Biyombo, and Marshon Brooks
to MMSB For
#6, #11, #22, & #36 in 2013 draft
what do you all think? I still have 3 first round picks and I think Pekovic is legit and a better quality player than what I will get at #6 or #11.
For the record, that's:
Utah Flash trades Nik Pekovic, Bismack Biyombo, and Marshon Brooks
MakeMeSomeBacon trades 2013 picks #6, #11, #22, and #36
I'll let this one simmer for league review before moving on to the next trade announcement.
(http://i.imgur.com/vELB6.gif)
I traded what for what?!?!!?!
Just kidding! I am pretty happy with the trade pending my actual picks. ::)
Regardless, Bacon is putting together a very good roster AND he still has a couple of high picks left.
I will be unavailable from noon next Wed Sept 4th - Sunday Sept 8th. So if anyone wants to talk trade with the revamped and younger Utah Flash, please hit me up before then or during the week of the draft(Sept 9th).
My current roster and picks (pending league approval of 3 off-season trades):
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Marcus Thornton
Jeremy Lamb
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
John Henson
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
2013 Picks:
#6
#7
#11
#14
#22
#29
2014 Picks:
UF #1
?? #1 (Pending the official announcement)
Mk
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(http://i.imgur.com/vELB6.gif)
I traded what for what?!?!!?!
haha TP for that.
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I'm looking to make some moves as well. Here's my complete roster.
J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Trevor Booker
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Luol Deng
Paul George
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Jason Kidd
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I'm considering trading Shumpert for a 2013 1st rounder in the upper half of the draft. If, like many experts, you think that Shumpert is better than most players in this year's draft, shoot me an offer.
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::YAWN::
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If anyone sees anything they like here is my team and picks I own. If you want 2nd rounders I have 4 of them.
#9, #13, #25, #26, #30, #31
DeJuan Blair
Mike Conley
Jordan Crawford
Jae Crowder
Channing Frye
Al Horford
Jonas Jerebko
Kawhi Leonard
Jeremy Lin
Gary Neal
Kendrick Perkins
Jason Smith
Tiago Splitter
Evan Turner
Ekpe Udoh
Dorell Wright
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2014 picks are on the block as well.
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sooo..
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I have had discussions with 2 GMs on Marcus Thornton. Now that Keith Smart has been canned in Sac, Thornton should return to his top 30 fbb self.
If you want to get in on the discussions, hit me up.
Mk
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I still have my 2014 second rounder to go along with any player(s) in a trade. Yeah, I know second rounders are worth a lot...especially if you swap rights with other GM ;)
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Pending Lucky and league approval:
Designated Drinkers send own 2014 first round pick
Utah Flash send Marcus Thornton
Thanks, Mk. TP for making this one of the more pleasant trade negotiations.
I'm hoping Thornton will have a bounce back season under the new coach.
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My 3rd pick is still out there
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Very slow off season :(
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(http://www.easymemes.com/uploads/memes/5764_5nhaXo8FyYiD03y.jpg)
My current and ever shrinking roster, plus picks (pending league approval of 4 off-season trades):
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Jeremy Lamb
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
John Henson
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
2013 Picks:
#6
#7
#11
#14
#22
#29
2014 Picks:
UF #1
DD #1
?? #1 (Pending the official announcement)
Want to talk trade? Don't be shy.
Mk
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do we have a set date yet for the draft? I'm just trying to plan ahead to make sure I'm available, especially for the Pts league draft
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do we have a set date yet for the draft? I'm just trying to plan ahead to make sure I'm available, especially for the Pts league draft
Lucky said the week of the 9th, so next week sometime. No solid date so far though.
BTW I'm really liking Utah's blow up plan - that team was probably stuck in the middle as constructed, and MK is keeping his core guys together while accruing a ton of picks.
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Need a PG.
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Need a PG.
I have some great ones. Hit me up with an offer
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BTW I'm really liking Utah's blow up plan - that team was probably stuck in the middle as constructed, and MK is keeping his core guys together while accruing a ton of picks.
Thanks champ. I like where things stand and I am excited for the draft. The one thing that I can state for sure is that I will be very active between now and the 2014 draft.
Mk
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Joe Johnson can be had for a starting PG.
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Looking to move any of these players for a 2nd round pick or a Point Guard.
Shannon Brown
Fab Melo
Rip Hamilton
Hit me up if interested.
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Another trade to announce, now that the last one has been vetted:
Toine's Boys send 2013 #29 pick
Utah Flash send Mirza Teletovich, Orlando Johnson, and 2013 #36 pick
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Another trade to announce, now that the last one has been vetted:
Toine's Boys send 2013 #29 pick
Utah Flash send Mirza Teletovich, Orlando Johnson, and 2013 #36 pick
a blockbustah !!
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So, who's ready for the draft?
It's going to be roughly a week from today. We'll do the same format: 10 minutes between first rounders, 5 minutes between second rounders.
If we start with the first pick due at 12 PM EST (9 AM my time), this should take us up to 5 PM EST. Could even work a short break in between rounds if needed.
Which day works best: Tues, Wed, or Fri? Could do Thurs, if people really want it, but I'll need to find someone to help run things, as I have a couple meetings that afternoon.
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So, who's ready for the draft?
It's going to be roughly a week from today. We'll do the same format: 10 minutes between first rounders, 5 minutes between second rounders.
If we start with the first pick due at 12 PM EST (9 AM my time), this should take us up to 5 PM EST. Could even work a short break in between rounds if needed.
Which day works best: Tues, Wed, or Fri? Could do Thurs, if people really want it, but I'll need to find someone to help run things, as I have a couple meetings that afternoon.
It really depends on when the picks are, but Tuesday afternoon would be ideal for me. Any day can work, though.
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First draft for me here. So after making an unbelievable valuable draft pick late in the 2nd round, I will be over the roster limit. When do I have to pare down to 15 players?
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wednesday only day im off but i could give my selection to Lucky if its on thurs or tuesday
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Any day is fine for me.
Mk
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Draft time, let's do this!
Any day is fine with me, as long as we decide sometime this week so I can arrange to be free then.
How about the Pts league? Pending my recent deals I really need to be around for that draft.
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do we have a google doc of the H2H league?
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First draft for me here. So after making an unbelievable valuable draft pick late in the 2nd round, I will be over the roster limit. When do I have to pare down to 15 players?
Lucky is the final voice of course -- but usually it's a few weeks before the season starts.
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Ian Mahinmi, Roddy Beaubois, Hedo Turkoglu and picks 34 and 36 are on the block if anyone is interested. I'm also willing to consider trading other players if it involves 1st round picks.
Here's my full roster pending a few trades:
Iman Shumpert
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Ian Mahinmi
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jordan Hamilton
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Nando De Colo
Orlando Johnson
Mirza Teletovich
2013 picks 34 and 36
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First draft for me here. So after making an unbelievable valuable draft pick late in the 2nd round, I will be over the roster limit. When do I have to pare down to 15 players?
Lucky is the final voice of course -- but usually it's a few weeks before the season starts.
Yeah, you'll have a month or so to sort things out. I think I had 21 guys after last year's draft, and only had to cut like one, and that only because a rules technicality invalidated my trade.
EDIT: That reminds me, Lucky, can we be explicit this year that the trade deadline is the "trade submitted" deadline, and not the "trade submitted, announced, and given 24 hours to be vetoed" deadline? I don't want a repeat of last year's kerfuffling.
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Might keep this 3rd pick now..bout 3 guys i got my eye on..
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Here's my roster:
C-Enes Katner
C-Chris Kaman
C-DeAndre Jordan
PF-Kenneth Faried
PF-Patrick Patterson
PF-Andrew Nicholson
SF-Mike Dunleavy
SF-Derrick Williams
SF-Caron Butler
SG-Nick Young
SG-Courtney Lee
SG-Corey Brewer
PG-Damien Lillard
PG-Isiah Thomas
PG-Ramon Sessions
PG-Jerrod Bayless
3rd pick
Katner, Faried, Lillard are off the market
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EDIT: That reminds me, Lucky, can we be explicit this year that the trade deadline is the "trade submitted" deadline, and not the "trade submitted, announced, and given 24 hours to be vetoed" deadline? I don't want a repeat of last year's kerfuffling.
That was the beginning of the end for the Draft Dodgers.
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So, who's ready for the draft?
It's going to be roughly a week from today. We'll do the same format: 10 minutes between first rounders, 5 minutes between second rounders.
If we start with the first pick due at 12 PM EST (9 AM my time), this should take us up to 5 PM EST. Could even work a short break in between rounds if needed.
Which day works best: Tues, Wed, or Fri? Could do Thurs, if people really want it, but I'll need to find someone to help run things, as I have a couple meetings that afternoon.
Can I send you a copy of my draft board in case I miss one of my picks. I should be on, but I never know when I could get busy with something at work and pulled away from the computer.
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Yes, I can take lists, either via PM, or email.
Seems like Wednesday works for folks here?
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No preference on what day the draft is. I can always send a list if need be.
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FWIW, i've entertained a few offers on Mr. Al Jefferson ... they didn't get very far, but he's not untouchable at this point.
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Another trade to announce:
Toine's Boys send 2013 #14 pick and 2014 Toine's Boys own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Greivis Vasquez, Nando de Colo, and 2014 Utah Flash own 2nd rounder
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more 2014 picks on the move
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I'm having trouble accessing the archived rosters. Can someone help me out and provide a link?
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Another trade to announce:
Toine's Boys send 2013 #14 pick and 2014 Toine's Boys own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Greivis Vasquez, Nando de Colo, and 2014 Utah Flash own 2nd rounder
What do people think about this one? It's tough to give up a 2014 1st, but I really wanted Vasquez, and Nando is nice too.
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Another trade to announce:
Toine's Boys send 2013 #14 pick and 2014 Toine's Boys own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Greivis Vasquez, Nando de Colo, and 2014 Utah Flash own 2nd rounder
What do people think about this one? It's tough to give up a 2014 1st, but I really wanted Vasquez, and Nando is nice too.
I was late to the party, but if Mk had offered Vasquez for a 2014 first, I would have bombarded him with PMs trying to close the deal asap ;)
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I'm having trouble accessing the archived rosters. Can someone help me out and provide a link?
I've been accessing the old rosters through the Yahoo league website, which I'm sure is not up to date at all. I don't know if we have a google doc for the H2H league. I typically scroll through the last few pages in this thread and find the updated rosters that some people posted recently for their teams.
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Another trade to announce:
Toine's Boys send 2013 #14 pick and 2014 Toine's Boys own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Greivis Vasquez, Nando de Colo, and 2014 Utah Flash own 2nd rounder
What do people think about this one? It's tough to give up a 2014 1st, but I really wanted Vasquez, and Nando is nice too.
I was late to the party, but if Mk had offered Vasquez for a 2014 first, I would have bombarded him with PMs trying to close the deal asap ;)
Yea, Vasquez should do well in Sacramento, he will run the show up there and should get his assist numbers easily, especially with Tyreke Evans gone.
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I'm having trouble accessing the archived rosters. Can someone help me out and provide a link?
I've been accessing the old rosters through the Yahoo league website, which I'm sure is not up to date at all. I don't know if we have a google doc for the H2H league. I typically scroll through the last few pages in this thread and find the updated rosters that some people posted recently for their teams.
Thanks, HP. But not all GMs are active and have posted their updated roster here, so its hard to try and find a potential trading partner. My hunt for a PG continues.... :D
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The Yahoo rosters are up to date, with the exception of the half-dozen or so offseason trades that have been recently announced.
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The Yahoo rosters are up to date, with the exception of the half-dozen or so offseason trades that have been recently announced.
Thanks, Lucky. Do you think you can provide a link for league's yahoo homepage?
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http://basketball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba
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Thanks. TP.
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Already announced, but just adding to the log:
Utah Flash trades Nik Pekovic, Bismack Biyombo, and Marshon Brooks
Make Me Some Bacon trades 2013 picks #6, #11, #22, and #36
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And another one to announce:
Designated Drinkers send 2014 Designated Drinkers own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Marcus Thornton
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And another one to announce:
Designated Drinkers send 2014 Designated Drinkers own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Marcus Thornton
Thanks, Lucky.
Any GMs want to weigh in on this trade?
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And another one to announce:
Designated Drinkers send 2014 Designated Drinkers own 1st rounder
Utah Flash send Marcus Thornton
Thanks, Lucky.
Any GMs want to weigh in on this trade?
good trade for both teams. The Flash keep stockpiling draft picks while DDs get a young SG who should return to form with a normal coach this season.
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The #6 pick in this Wednesday draft is available for the right price. Want to move up? Buy into the top of the draft? Move down? Hit me up.
Mk
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Asof now, looks like im keeping the 3rd pick..unless I get an offer I cant refuse, lol..but there is 3 guys im looking at and of course, one will be there at 3
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Players available:
Jerrod Bayless
Ramon Sessions
Corey Brewer
Caron Butler
Mike Dunleavy
Patrick Patterson
Chris Kaman
Courtney Lee
3rd pick
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Shumpert, Mahinmi, Udrih, picks 34 and 36 on the block
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So, near as I can tell, all pending trades for which I've received confirmation from both teams have been announced.
We are still on for Wednesday's draft. In preparation, I will post an updated draft order tomorrow for all to review.
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Lucky, are you going to post the draft order with the designated times they are due tonight?
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Last trade to announce:
Kwhit trades 2013 #31 pick
Bdubs trades Shannon Brown
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Tentative draft order for Wednesday, Sept 11. [I will double check this today and confirm before the draft.]
1. Wumpian Imperialists
2. Larry Bird 17
3. Birdman (via North Pond Hermits)
4. Make Me Some Bacon
5. Juggernauts2 (via Webskins)
6. Utah Flash (via Make Me Some Bacon via Juggernauts2)
7. Utah Flash (via Toine's Boys)
8. Rubio & Friends
9. Kwhit10 (via Ya'll Hate)
10. Rusted Rims (via rights to swap with Birdman)
11. Utah Flash (via Make Me Some Bacon via Kwhit10)
12. Make Me Some Bacon (via Utah Flash)
13. Kwhit10 (via Lucky 17)
14. Utah Flash (via Toine’s Boys via Blake)
15. Make Me Some Bacon (via Gainesville Celtics)
16. Password is Taco
17. Juggernauts2 (via Kobe's Ko-Rapists)
18. Webskins (via Too Talented to Fail)
19. Webskins (via Designated Drinkers*)
20. Juggernauts2 (via Birdman after swap with Rusted Rims*)
| 21. Larry Bird 17
22. Utah Flash (via Make Me Some Bacon)
23. Wumpian Imperialists
24. Gainesville Celtics (via Webskins)
25. Kwhit10 (via Juggernauts2)
26. Kwhit10 (via Toine's Boys)
27. Rubio & Friends
28. North Pond Hermits
29. Utah Flash (via Toine's Boys via Ya'll Hate)
30. Kwhit10 (via Birdman)
31. Juggernauts 2 (via Kwhit10)
32. North Pond Hermits (via Utah Flash)
33. Rubio & Friends (via Lucky 17)
34. Toine’s Boys (via Blake)
35. Gainesville Celtics
36. Toine's Boys (via Utah Flash via Make Me Some Bacon via Rusted Rims)
37. Password is Taco
38. Webskins (via Designated Drinkers)
39. Kobe's Ko-Rapists
40. Too Talented to Fail
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*The League Champion and Runner-up are awarded the 20th and 19th picks respectively.
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I should have Utah's #36 pick, which was traded to me for 29, Teletovich, and Orlando Johnson
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True to his word, Mk has now sent Mirza, OJ, and #37 to Toine's Boys for the #29 pick
TP TB!!!!!
Marcus Thornton is still available for the right price.
Mk
Slight correction on this trade. I made a mistake in my original post. I received the #36 pick from MMSB which I then traded to TB as a part of this deal.
The deal is actually,
Utah Flash send Mirza, OJ, and #36
Toine's Boys send the #29 pick
Mk
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J.J. Hickson is available for the right price.
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WHERE CAN I GO TO SEE EVEYONE UPDATED ROSTER
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I got to send out some trade offers!!!!!
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The TTTF are willing to move a proven vet for a pick. The higher the pick the better the vet.
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Im going to keep the #3 pick, unless im blown away..there are 3 guys I like so going to pick one of them..but I have others players on the block, so hit me up if u interested
Corey Brewer
Mike Dunleavy
Caron Butler
Chris Kaman
Ramon Sessions
Jerrod Bayless
Patrick Patterson
Courtney Lee
maybe-Derrick Williams and DeAndre Jordan
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Draft day is here, let's do this!
I only have late 2nd round picks in this league, so I will be popping in and out to check out the action until I'm up. Of course, if anyone wants to talk trade, I'll be around.
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anyone has a link to the rosters? All I can get is the draft picks
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anyone has a link to the rosters? All I can get is the draft picks
If you go to the Yahoo fantasy page for the league you can see the season ending rosters.
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anyone has a link to the rosters? All I can get is the draft picks
If you go to the Yahoo fantasy page for the league you can see the season ending rosters.
thanks
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#24 pick... anyone wanna move up or down??
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I'm probably going to use the #10 but I'll certainly take offers for it.
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The Utah Flash front office is open for business!
Player:
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Jeremy Lamb
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
John Henson
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
2013 Draft Picks:
#6
#7
#11
#14
#22
#29
2014 Draft Picks:
UF #1
TB #1
DD #1
Wanna make a deal?
Mk
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The Utah Flash front office is open for business!
Player:
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Jeremy Lamb
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
John Henson
LaMarcus Aldridge
Roy Hibbert
2013 Draft Picks:
#6
#7
#11
#14
#22
#29
2014 Draft Picks:
UF #1
TB #1
DD #1
Wanna make a deal?
Mk
Btw, I only have 8 players on my roster. My best player is out at least two months b/c of his ACL injury. My three second year players averaged just 11.3 minutes per game. Catch my drift?
With that in mind, Until 5PM when the draft is over, I will take offers on the UF 2014 #1 pick.
No low-ball offers please. If you are not sure whether your offer is a low-ball, close your eyes and picture Andrew Wiggins taking a cross-court bounce pass from Rondo and dunking it over Dwight Howard. Then look at your offer. The answer should be clear. ;)
Mk
(http://gamereax.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/wigginsposter.gif)
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Now that the draft is over, anybody looking to trade, hit me up. Here is my roster:
J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Trevor Booker
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Luol Deng
Paul George
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
2014 own #2
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Anyone looking for some players I have plenty of extra.
Here is the roster. Lots of players available for 2014 #1 or #2's
DeJuan Blair
Mike Conley
Jordan Crawford
Jae Crowder
Channing Frye
Al Horford
Jonas Jerebko
Kawhi Leonard
Jeremy Lin
Gary Neal
Kendrick Perkins
Jason Smith
Tiago Splitter
Evan Turner
Ekpe Udoh
Dorell Wright
Shannon Brown
Trey Burke
Michael Carter-Williams
Solomon Hill
Allen Crabbe
Ricky Ledo
Players in red are most available.
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Bennet, Wiggins, Olynyk...GO CANADA! ;)
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Looking to trade any or all of these players, as many as you like, for a 2014 2nd round pick:
Rodrigue Beaubois
Jordan Hamilton
Hedo Turkoglu
Nando De Colo
Orlando Johnson
Ian Mahinmi
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I may consider trading one of my 2014 picks for a young player. Hit me up if you have interest. If you want to throw out a godfather-type offer for multiple picks/players, feel free, but BRING IT ON or don't bring it at all!
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/603/bring%20it%20on.jpg)
2013/14 Roster and Draft Picks:
Rajon Rondo
Brandon Jennings
Jeremy Lamb
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Tobias Harris
Terrence Jones
LaMarcus Aldridge
John Henson
Roy Hibbert
Cody Zeller
Dennis Schröder
Archie Goodwin
Tim Hardaway, Jr.
Nerlens Noel
2014 Draft Picks:
UF #1
TB #1
DD #1
Mk
P.S. I am speaking in memes until the season starts.
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Pssst.... don't tell Utah, but I'm gonna send him an offer, but not BRING IT... watch what happens 8)
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For Sale: Championship Swag
Price: Negotiable. Mostly looking for a good PG.
Value: Immeasurable (but people WILL notice)
Jameer Nelson
Brandon Knight
Patrick Beverley
DJ Augustin
Nate Robinson
OJ Mayo
Danny Green
JR Smith
Klay Thompson
Rudy Gay
Carmelo Anthony
Chandler Parsons
Reggie Evans
Greg Monroe
Omer Asik
Jermaine O'Neal
Kelly Olynyk
Unfortunately, Carmelo, Monroe and Klay may have levels of swag beyond what your team can handle. So you'd have to be very persuasive. :)
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Like do a 2 for 1 if u like..Chris Kaman, Caron Butler, Ramon Sessions, Corey Brewer, Courtney Lee, Jerrod Bayless, Mike Dunleavy....
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updated list of Toine's Boys players available for cheap, a 2nd rounder or possibly a bench player for as many of the players below that you want:
Rodrigue Beaubios
Jordan Hamilton
Ian Mahinmi
Hedo Turkoglu
Nando De Colo
Orlando Johnson
Tony Mitchell
first come, first serve
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Pssst.... don't tell Utah, but I'm gonna send him an offer, but not BRING IT... watch what happens 8)
(http://www.benettonplay.com/toys/flipbookdeluxe/flipbooks_gif/2012/06/25/GUEST_11328139157_1340593278.gif)
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updated list of Toine's Boys players available for cheap, a 2nd rounder or possibly a bench player for as many of the players below that you want:
Rodrigue Beaubios
Jordan Hamilton
Ian Mahinmi
Hedo Turkoglu
Nando De Colo
Orlando Johnson
Tony Mitchell
first come, first serve
De Colo and Mitchell are gone. Come grab any of the players below before they are gone as well!
updated list of Toine's Boys players available for cheap, a 2nd rounder or possibly a bench player for as many of the players below that you want:
Rodrigue Beaubios
Jordan Hamilton
Ian Mahinmi
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
Trevor Booker
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updated list of Toine's Boys players available for cheap, a 2nd rounder or possibly a bench player for as many of the players below that you want:
Rodrigue Beaubios
Jordan Hamilton
Ian Mahinmi
Hedo Turkoglu
Nando De Colo
Orlando Johnson
Tony Mitchell
first come, first serve
De Colo and Mitchell are gone. Come grab any of the players below before they are gone as well!
updated list of Toine's Boys players available for cheap, a 2nd rounder or possibly a bench player for as many of the players below that you want:
Rodrigue Beaubios
Jordan Hamilton
Ian Mahinmi
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
Trevor Booker
(http://www.fantasybasketballcoaches.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/nando-de-colo-miami-heat.jpg)
I believe I know who made the move for Nando. Can't say I blame him.
Mk
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Two players are gone, here are my most available players.
Jeremy Lin
DeJuan Blair
Kendrick Perkins
Ekpe Udoh
Jordan Crawford
Jae Crowder
Jonas Jerebko
Shannon Brown
Solomon Hill
Allen Crabbe
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Jordan Hamilton, potential starter for Denver while Galinari is out the 1st half of the season. Come and get him!
(http://www.rantsports.com/nba/wp-content/slideshow/2013/07/5-denver-nuggets-who-will-benefit-from-andre-iguodala-s-departure/medium/Jordan-Hamilton.jpg)
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I've sent out some PMs... but if you're a contending team and are looking for a veteran specialists each of these guys can be had for a #1 pick (i.e late first round):
Elton Brand (steals/blocks at the C position)
Al Harrington (elite 3's from the PF/C position)
Metta World Peace (steals/3s)
Jason Maxiell (top 30 in blocks last season in just 24 mpg)
First come first serve
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J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Luol Deng
Paul George
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Marcus Thornton
Nando De Colo (pending trade approval)
Tony Mitchell (pending trade approval)
LBJ, George, Hayward and Griffin will command a hefty price tag, but everyone is available. PGs preferred.
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Jordan Hamilton, potential starter for Denver while Galinari is out the 1st half of the season. Come and get him!
(http://www.rantsports.com/nba/wp-content/slideshow/2013/07/5-denver-nuggets-who-will-benefit-from-andre-iguodala-s-departure/medium/Jordan-Hamilton.jpg)
Hamilton and Mahinmi are now gone.
If you want any of the three remaining players, send me a PM. All 3 can be had for a 2nd round pick or a bench player.
Rodrigue Beaubois
Hedo Turkoglu
Orando Johnson
2013 rookies Glen Rice Jr and Ricky Ledo can each also be had for a 2nd round pick
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Couple of trades have come in. Here's the first:
Kwhit10 sends Ricky Ledo and Jason Smith
Toine's Boys sends Utah Flash 2014 #2
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Second:
Toine's Boys send Tony Mitchell and Nando de Colo
Designated Drinkers send Trevor Booker and 2014 own 2nd rounder
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Toine's Boys updated Roster, pending recent trades:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Mirza Teletovich
Jason Smith
rookies:
Ricky Ledo
Glen Rice Jr
on the block:
Rodrigue Beaubois
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
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Toine's Boys updated Roster, pending recent trades:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Mirza Teletovich
Jason Smith
rookies:
Ricky Ledo
Glen Rice Jr
on the block:
Rodrigue Beaubois
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
Impressive roster.
Since I own your 2014 #1 pick, is it wrong of me to hope for Jeff Green to bump heads with Andre Drummond ala Vinnie Johnson & Adrian Dantley?
This would help the Boston Celtics get a higher draft pick while making your #1 much more valuable.
;)
Mk
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Mk
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Toine's Boys updated Roster, pending recent trades:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Mirza Teletovich
Jason Smith
rookies:
Ricky Ledo
Glen Rice Jr
on the block:
Rodrigue Beaubois
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
Impressive roster.
Since I own your 2014 #1 pick, is it wrong of me to hope for Jeff Green to bump heads with Andre Drummond ala Vinnie Johnson & Adrian Dantley?
This would help the Boston Celtics get a higher draft pick while making your #1 much more valuable.
;)
Mk
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Mk
Thanks Mk. I still need some of my young guys to break out this year for me to make a big impact, but they are getting there. I'd be sort of ok in a strange way with Green going down this season, I want that top pick for the C's!
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Andre Miller
Andris Biedrins
Anthony Davis
C.J. Watson
Carlos Boozer
David Lee
DeMarre Carroll
Grant Hill
Jimmer Fredette
John Salmons
Marc Gasol
Marcus Camby
Monta Ellis
Rashard Lewis
Ronny Turiaf
Timofey Mozgov
plus
Bennett (#1)
Plumlee (#23)
so if this is my roster
players on the block ..Grant Hill..Marcus Camby..Rashard Lewis..Turiaf...Biedrins..
guys I'm not married to, but a little hesitant to move..Salmons, Cj Watson, A Miller, Mozgov..Boozer..D Carrol..
If they aren't starters and are over the age of 27ish then I'm not married to them.
Looking for future picks and probably a pg
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Lucky. Is it possible for you to start the league and not load rosters yet? If you do that i think I'll be able to see past results of teams and players and whatnot
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Lucky. Is it possible for you to start the league and not load rosters yet? If you do that i think I'll be able to see past results of teams and players and whatnot
I just managed to access the archived rosters from last season, and updated the google doc. Still a few trades pending processing and announcement.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
I think I can renew the league this week. Will try to do that.
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Lucky. Is it possible for you to start the league and not load rosters yet? If you do that i think I'll be able to see past results of teams and players and whatnot
I just managed to access the archived rosters from last season, and updated the google doc. Still a few trades pending processing and announcement.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
I think I can renew the league this week. Will try to do that.
thanks Lucky, this spread sheet is very helpful.
Do we have one more GC-TB trade announcement coming tonight?
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I would still like to get a 2 for 1 deal done...
I can throw any of these 2 in a deal...
Chris Kaman
Caron Butler
Mike Dunleavy
Ramon Sessions
Courtney Lee
Jerrod Bayless
Corey Brewer
Patrick Patterson
Andrew Nicholson
maybe Derrick Williams
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alright, my 2013 rookies are gone, I took a risky move on a player I like.
This is what remains on my trading block, any offers are likely accepted for them:
Rodrigue Beaubois
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
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Here are the players I have on the block. All offers will be considered:
Juggernauts2:
Norris Cole
Gerald Green
Rip Hamilton
Kyle Korver
Josh McRoberts
Fab Melo
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Here;s my players on the block
Tony Allen
Ray Allen
Jared Dudley
Paul Pierce
Danilo Gallinari
Kevin Granett
Amar'e Stoudemire
Pierce, KG, and Gall were all 1000+ pt scorers. Ray Allen had awesome stats in shooting categories and put up almost 900 points
Chandler had great numbers in rebounding, FG% and block and still had 800points. These are valuable players. These are not the end of the bench scrubs others are advertising being available. Willing to package some for a star. I am not looking for 2-3 of your players for one of mine. I am already over the roster limit.
Take a look at there numbers last year
http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/nba/2012/4065/12
There's a reason the TTTF went undefeated. Its because these guys produce as well if not better than most of the guys on your clubs. Hit me up with REAL OFFERS and REAL TRADES will happen
I am also not adverse to moving one of my high scoring PGs for the right price.
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There's a reason the TTTF went undefeated.
(http://www.personal.psu.edu/rct5038/blogs/ist_445h/super-bowl-shirts-patriots-19-0.jpg)
"When are our new T-shirts getting in?" :P
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Yes the TTTF are definitely the 2007 New England Patriots of this league, fwf. Congrats once again on the title.
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I think injuries were the biggest factor in swinging that match. But I just couldn't let that one slide. Especially since you'll probably clobber me the next time we play.
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Gville Celtics revised roster (pending a few announcmenets -- i either messed them up or Lucky's trying to save me from mysefl...):
Only guy I'm not looking to deal is Russell Westbrook -- i've had lengthy discussions on Vucevic and Jefferson but obvs haven't moved either.
Guys in RED are available RIGHT NOW for a 1st round pick or swap of a 1st for a 2nd (each are top-30 in a specific cat which could be that missing piece for a contender).
Al Harrington
Al Jefferson
Alan Anderson
Andrei Kirilenko
C.J. Miles
Elton Brand
Ian Mahinmi
Iman Shumpert
Jason Maxiell
Jodie Meeks
Jordan Hamilton
Lavoy Allen
Marcus Morris
Mo Williams
Nemanja Nedovic
Nikola Vucevic
Rudy Gobert
Russell Westbrook
Trevor Booker
Will Barton
GC 2014 #1
GC 2014 #2
Toines Boys 2014 #2
Des. Drinkers 2014 #2
Open to making 2-for-1 deals where i either give *or* get the 2... let's make a deal.
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I think injuries were the biggest factor in swinging that match. But I just couldn't let that one slide. Especially since you'll probably clobber me the next time we play.
Yup, two straight years we hit the semi fianls and had 5-6 players out with injury each year. Oh well.
Probably just running it back for another shot but definitely exploring moving some people in a reload/rebuild type of year.
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TP
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I am looking to cut down my roster. Anyone and everyone will be considered trade bait for the right deal....
Those in red are "most available"
Chase Budinger
Ed Davis
Landry Fields
Alonzo Gee
Mo Harkless
James Johnson
Meyers Leonard
John Lucas
Kendall Marshall
E'Twaun Moore
Byron Mullens
A.J. Price
Kyle Singler
Lance Stephenson
Kemba Walker
Tyler Zeller
Nikola Pekovic
Bismack Biyombo
MarShon Brooks
Otto Porter
Shabazz Muhammad
Shane Larkin
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Another trade:
Gainesville Celtics trade Metta World Peace
Toine's Boys trade Justin Hamilton, Ian Mahinmi, Trevor Booker and Designated Drinkers own 2014 2nd rounder
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And another:
Toine's Boys send Iman Shumpert and Toine's Boys own 2014 2nd rounder
Gainsville Celtics send Rodney Stuckey
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J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Luol Deng
Paul George
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Marcus Thornton
Nando De Colo
Tony Mitchell
Guys in red are available.
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Another trade (I believe this is the last in my queue):
Toines Boys send Ricky Ledo and Glen Rice Jr
Juggernauts2 send Royce White
I'm going to update the google doc of rosters/picks today, and also invite folks back to the league.
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
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alright, what do people think of this trade? Is it one of those where both GMs lose? I basically traded two prospects from a weak draft, one who is pretty hyped by some in Ledo, and another who may have what it takes to produce but had attitude problems in Rice, for the posterboy for NBA headcases who has yet to play a second in the NBA and refuses to fly to road games.
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I don't think it's lose-lose since none of those guys are likely to move the needle much. It depends who of the 3 pans out. Most likely it'll be none of them. Which is tie-tie as far as I'm concerned.
Royce is the most talented of the bunch but obviously has the most off-court baggage. But you'll just have to see who can develop into a legit player, if anyone.
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Reposting (at top of page for increased visibility):
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
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Reposting (at top of page for increased visibility):
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
Fine with me.
Mk
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The Utah Flash have re-upped in Y! and the keepers are set.
Mk
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Reposting (at top of page for increased visibility):
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
Fine with me.
Mk
The Utah Flash have re-upped in Y! and the keepers are set.
Mk
Ditto
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how many keepers do we select
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how many keepers do we select
All of them.
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how many keepers do we select
Once you've registered your team with Yahoo... just go to your team page and click on the "SELECT KEEPERS" link.
Keep all of your players from last year... this will save about a year of Lucky's time b/c all that has to be done then is to execute offseason trades and draft picks -- but only of players who end up being one of the 16 formal keepers.
So if I traded for Lebron and Kevin Durant in the offseason but don't end up keeping Lebron, Lucky doesn't have to do anything on his end (other than possibly dropping Lebron into the player pool).
Likewise if I drafted Orien Greene with the #35 pick but didn't end up with him as one of my 16 final roster spots, again Lucky don't have to do nothin'.
The old way was after cutdown day Lucky had to go in and select all 16 keepers from the player list (via find) x 20 teams... oy vey.
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Reposting (at top of page for increased visibility):
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
thanks Lucky. My H2H roster is off by a few players in Yahoo. It should look like this:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
Mirza Teletovich
Royce White
Jason Smith
I would cut Turkoglu, Roddy B, and Orlando Johnson and be set at this:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Mirza Teletovich
Royce White
Jason Smith
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
I have suggested Sunday, October 13 as the cut down day, by which all rosters must be at 16 players or less.
In the meantime, please select all 16 of your currently rostered players as keepers when you first log into the Yahoo league.
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
I have suggested Sunday, October 13 as the cut down day, by which all rosters must be at 16 players or less.
In the meantime, please select all 16 of your currently rostered players as keepers when you first log into the Yahoo league.
My remaining brain cells are slowly figuring out what you're saying. Select all 16 for now....then on Oct 13 we have to cut someone to make space for our new guys? Which will be done manually by you Lucky?
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
I have suggested Sunday, October 13 as the cut down day, by which all rosters must be at 16 players or less.
In the meantime, please select all 16 of your currently rostered players as keepers when you first log into the Yahoo league.
My remaining brain cells are slowly figuring out what you're saying. Select all 16 for now....then on Oct 13 we have to cut someone to make space for our new guys? Which will be done manually by you Lucky?
Yep. We're going into this weird period now where the league will be up on Yahoo!, but a lot of the league activity will continue to take place "offline".
If you haven't already, bookmark this page, as you're going to need to refer to it frequently between now and cut down day:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
I have suggested Sunday, October 13 as the cut down day, by which all rosters must be at 16 players or less.
In the meantime, please select all 16 of your currently rostered players as keepers when you first log into the Yahoo league.
My remaining brain cells are slowly figuring out what you're saying. Select all 16 for now....then on Oct 13 we have to cut someone to make space for our new guys? Which will be done manually by you Lucky?
Yep. We're going into this weird period now where the league will be up on Yahoo!, but a lot of the league activity will continue to take place "offline".
If you haven't already, bookmark this page, as you're going to need to refer to it frequently between now and cut down day:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
riiiiigghhhtt...so trades involving our recent draft picks and whatnot would happen here now?
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
I have suggested Sunday, October 13 as the cut down day, by which all rosters must be at 16 players or less.
In the meantime, please select all 16 of your currently rostered players as keepers when you first log into the Yahoo league.
My remaining brain cells are slowly figuring out what you're saying. Select all 16 for now....then on Oct 13 we have to cut someone to make space for our new guys? Which will be done manually by you Lucky?
Yep. We're going into this weird period now where the league will be up on Yahoo!, but a lot of the league activity will continue to take place "offline".
If you haven't already, bookmark this page, as you're going to need to refer to it frequently between now and cut down day:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
riiiiigghhhtt...so trades involving our recent draft picks and whatnot would happen here now?
They would continue here.
And all rosters on that doc should be up to date, with the exception of the most recently announced trade (still in review period).
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what exactly is the due date for selecting your keepers?
I have suggested Sunday, October 13 as the cut down day, by which all rosters must be at 16 players or less.
In the meantime, please select all 16 of your currently rostered players as keepers when you first log into the Yahoo league.
My remaining brain cells are slowly figuring out what you're saying. Select all 16 for now....then on Oct 13 we have to cut someone to make space for our new guys? Which will be done manually by you Lucky?
Yep. We're going into this weird period now where the league will be up on Yahoo!, but a lot of the league activity will continue to take place "offline".
If you haven't already, bookmark this page, as you're going to need to refer to it frequently between now and cut down day:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc#gid=0
ahh..ok, I got it. Thanks Lucky and Eja.
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So I set my keepers, but the team doesn't get set because Yahoo doesn't allow us to finalize till Oct 31?
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So I set my keepers, but the team doesn't get set because Yahoo doesn't allow us to finalize till Oct 31?
Sorry, I don't understand that last part. You'll have to clarify.
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So I set my keepers, but the team doesn't get set because Yahoo doesn't allow us to finalize till Oct 31?
Sorry, I don't understand that last part. You'll have to clarify.
It's telling me this...Your commissioner has set Monday October 28, 2013, as your league's deadline for declaring your keepers. You can make and edit your selections until 11:59pm PT on Sunday October 27, 2013.
So I can set keepers, but it won't show as my roster till then? As of the moment?
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Again, if you want to see rosters, you have to look at the Google doc.
Nothing will be available in Yahoo until everyone has signed in, declared keepers, and I have been able to update rosters via Commish Tools.
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FYI I'm going to do some analysis tonight. Release some findings. Stuff like that
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Ok.....Carlos Boozer is definitely for sale. Looking for maybe a prospect and first rounder. Looking for swing men and point guards
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FYI I'm going to do some analysis tonight. Release some findings. Stuff like that
looking forward to it Eja
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Andre Miller is on the block.
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Rashard Lewis in on the block
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Andris Biedrins, Marcus Camby, and Turiaf are all on the block. The only reason at this moment that DeMarre Carrol isn't on the block is because I actually need players for next year. I haven't really been left any
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As of the moment with the initial offers I seem to be getting I think just being the horrid horrid team I am is probably my best strategy. I took myself out of the Wiggins running in the points league. I think I'll stay in it in this one.
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Also...I am not a huge believer in the next draft outside of the top 5....that doesn't mean not to bring picks to the table
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Also if you like salmon....John Salmons is on the table.....what the heck kinda name is Salmons?
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Also if you like salmon....John Salmons is on the table.....what the heck kinda name is Salmons?
and mashed potatoes?
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Another trade (I believe this is the last in my queue):
Toines Boys send Ricky Ledo and Glen Rice Jr
Juggernauts2 send Royce White
I'm going to update the google doc of rosters/picks today, and also invite folks back to the league.
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
I'm glad to be rid of Royce, the kids throwing his career away. Ledo & Rice are longshots, but at least they'll put in more work to be the best they can be on the court than Royce White is going to be. He uses his disorder as a crutch. There's no give from his end of things to show that he really cares about trying to overcome his anxiety.
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Another trade (I believe this is the last in my queue):
Toines Boys send Ricky Ledo and Glen Rice Jr
Juggernauts2 send Royce White
I'm going to update the google doc of rosters/picks today, and also invite folks back to the league.
I'm going to be on a vacation for about three weeks after this weekend. Might be able to check PMs, but probably little else. I think cut down day will have to wait until I get back. Tentatively, I am proposing Sunday, October 13. How does that sound to people?
I'm glad to be rid of Royce, the kids throwing his career away. Ledo & Rice are longshots, but at least they'll put in more work to be the best they can be on the court than Royce White is going to be. He uses his disorder as a crutch. There's no give from his end of things to show that he really cares about trying to overcome his anxiety.
He also had quite the summer. He reportedly spent 20,000 on mexican prostitutes and was charged with domestic assault by his ex girlfriend after he hit on her friend.
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I'm considering moving Danny Granger. I currently only have 15 players on my team.
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Meanwhile, a three team trade was agreed upon.
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Trade on the board:
Kwhit sends: Jeremy Lin
Kwhit receives: Designated Drinkers 2014 1st rounder
Utah Flash sends: LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Jennings, Designated Drinkers 2014 1st rounder
Utah Flash receives: Paul George, Luol Deng, Nando De Colo, Tony Mitchell
Designated Drinkers sends: Paul George, Luol Deng, Nando De Colo, Tony Mitchell
Designated Drinkers receives: LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Jennings, Jeremy Lin
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Hate giving up Paul George and I hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass.
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Any GM want to weigh in on this?
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Any GM want to weigh in on this?
I think you got a good return.
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Hate giving up Paul George and I hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass.
I think Aldridge is the best guy in the deal, so you won in that respect. The overall picture depends on how Jennings adjusts to Detroit. But I think it's a good move for your team.
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Hate giving up Paul George and I hope it doesn't come back to bite me in the ass.
I think Aldridge is the best guy in the deal, so you won in that respect. The overall picture depends on how Jennings adjusts to Detroit. But I think it's a good move for your team.
Yeah, I think it all comes down to Jennings. If he performs well in Detroit, this trade will be a "win" for me. If not, tough luck, but at least I fill a position of need.
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Now that the draft fire drill is over, let's get back to business.
Deng is available for a #1, depending on the team, or a #1 and a prospect for the contenders.
Both Mitchell and De Colo are available for #2s.
Mk
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I guess I owe it to myself to find out what my first rounder could get me. Feel free to make (impressive offers)
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I guess I owe it to myself to find out what my first rounder could get me. Feel free to make (impressive offers)
Well, you know it can get you Deng ;)
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I guess I owe it to myself to find out what my first rounder could get me. Feel free to make (impressive offers)
Well, you know it can get you Deng ;)
I may even throw in Nando.... maybe.
Mk
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I am officially on vacation. For the next three weeks, any league business, trades, etc. will be conducted and confirmed by Gainesville Celtic.
Including any trades that have been agreed to in the last 48 hours.
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JJ Barea, Aaron Brooks, Vince Carter and Marcus Thornton are available.
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Toine's Boys are open for business all offers are considered, here's the roster:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Rodrigue Beaubois
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
Mirza Teletovich
Royce White
Jason Smith
players in red are available for any offer
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standings last year for eja
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I've had discussions with about 8 teams and with just about every player on my roster...
Everyone but Westbrook is available
(NOTE: Available doesn't mean I'm looking to give away Big Al..., but that I'll discuss an older player, younger player, picks, whatever.... as long as it makes sense)
Al Harrington
Al Jefferson
Alan Anderson
Andrei Kirilenko
C.J. Miles
Elton Brand
Ian Mahinmi
Iman Shumpert
Jason Maxiell
Jodie Meeks
Jordan Hamilton
Lavoy Allen
Marcus Morris
Metta World Peace
Mo Williams
Nemanja Nedovic
Nikola Vucevic
Rudy Gobert
Russell Westbrook
Trevor Booker
Will Barton
GC 2014 #1
GC 2014 #2
Toines Boys 2014 #2
Des. Drinkers 2014 #2
I think i've got some mid-range talent that could help weaker teams get better and some upper mid-range talent (Kirilenko, Mo Williams, Brand) that could help a playoff team contend.
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My updated roster:
J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Marcus Thornton
LaMarcus Aldridge
Brandon Jennings
Jeremy Lin
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MWP was traded to Tonies Boys, no?
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MWP was traded to Tonies Boys, no?
yep, MWP is a member of Toine's Boys
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MWP was traded to Tonies Boys, no?
yep, MWP is a member of Toine's Boys
Yeah I keep copy/pasting an old list... Typical.
Forgive me both my 1st place fantasy baseball teams got bounced today. Bad stuff.
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Whoever you are if I'm not getting back to you, part of the issue is I'm overwhelmed with offers. More in this league than the other, but this one too. Now I know what I was doing to you.
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Have we ever had a two-peat in this league? If no, I have a feeling we will see it this season.
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Have we ever had a two-peat in this league? If no, I have a feeling we will see it this season.
Des Drinkers -- who added L. Aldridge, Jennings, and Lin -- predicting a Rusted Rims repeat feels like an attempted reverse jinx.
If that's the case I think the team with Jodie Meeks will finish last... or wait first.. wait, how does this work?!?
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Have we ever had a two-peat in this league? If no, I have a feeling we will see it this season.
The O.C.(Original Champs), the Walker Wiggle aka Draft Dodgers won in both 2008 and 2011. Of the three other teams with championship trophies, Utah Flash (2009), The Naturals (2010), and Rusted Rims (2013 & current champs), only The Naturals/TTTF and the Rusted Rims have a very good shot this season as your Utah Flash are lottery bound :(
Much can happen between now and April. Your team and a few others have legit shots at the title, this includes the Draft Dodgers who should rebound back this season.
Mk
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Have we ever had a two-peat in this league? If no, I have a feeling we will see it this season.
Des Drinkers -- who added L. Aldridge, Jennings, and Lin -- predicting a Rusted Rims repeat feels like an attempted reverse jinx.
If that's the case I think the team with Jodie Meeks will finish last... or wait first.. wait, how does this work?!?
Well, I also gave up Paul George and Luol Deng. FWF is still the champ and will be unless someone beats him. If you look at the finals result (10-1, I believe) you will probably realize what I meant.
And if Meeks earns you last place, well, tough luck. Wait, did I jinx your team too? Congrats on the championship, GC! ::)
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Have we ever had a two-peat in this league? If no, I have a feeling we will see it this season.
Des Drinkers -- who added L. Aldridge, Jennings, and Lin -- predicting a Rusted Rims repeat feels like an attempted reverse jinx.
If that's the case I think the team with Jodie Meeks will finish last... or wait first.. wait, how does this work?!?
Well, I also gave up Paul George and Luol Deng. FWF is still the champ and will be unless someone beats him. If you look at the finals result (10-1, I believe) you will probably realize what I meant.
And if Meeks earns you last place, well, tough luck.
As always, injuries play a HUGE role. I guess end of season vacation do to... Yes I am talking to you LBJ!!!
Mk
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Btw, there are two more trades waiting for their official announcements. Perhaps, 1 or two more, depending on when the details get ironed out.
Mk
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Btw, there are two more trades waiting for their official announcements. Perhaps, 1 or two more, depending on when the details get ironed out.
Mk
I think i have one -- the 24 hr deadline was the middle of the night last night --- but i'll double check.
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For anyone who missed it: Lucky is on vacation for 3 weeks so from now till then trades (confirmations from both teams) should be sent to me.
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Have we ever had a two-peat in this league? If no, I have a feeling we will see it this season.
I wouldn't count on it - I was really happy with how I put my team in a position to win when the playoffs rolled around, but I still needed a lot to break my way for it to work out. Heck, I had to squeak out 3 categories just to win 6-5 in the first round.
I think I'll be in the title mix again but there's way too much variability in the playoffs to be confident of anything else.
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Well, I also gave up Paul George and Luol Deng. FWF is still the champ and will be unless someone beats him. If you look at the finals result (10-1, I believe) you will probably realize what I meant.
;D was just bustin' chops BFM... And yeah, MK's point is well taken: it's a long season and injuries and late season rest plays a big role. Teams that appear to be too proficient to lose sometimes do... and DarkHorses sometimes arise.
I think it will be an interesting season and given that we've already had more than a dozen trades and Roster Cut Down Day is still 3+ weeks away (Sun. Oct. 13) I think it's gonna be an active one too!
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Btw, there are two more trades waiting for their official announcements. Perhaps, 1 or two more, depending on when the details get ironed out.
Mk
I think i have one -- the 24 hr deadline was the middle of the night last night --- but i'll double check.
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For anyone who missed it: Lucky is on vacation for 3 weeks so from now till then trades (confirmations from both teams) should be sent to me.
Hey GC, you should have two from me, 1 via CB PMs and the other via email. Let me know if you do not and which one.
Mk
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Thanks for the reminder about the email one MK... i'll get to them after lunch.
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Thanks for the reminder about the email one MK... i'll get to them after lunch.
Thanks GC, and think about the offer that I send you to. It's there if you want it.
Mk
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Utah Flash's front office has had a very busy off-season ;)
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Utah Flash's front office has had a very busy off-season ;)
Sometimes I have no idea how he does it. I suspect there might be a team of guys in an office somewhere at NASA or something
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Ok...Ok
I've done a tad bit o homework.....I think I'm ready for people to just put their offers back on the table
In the past I made a lot of offers and had to actually keep notes on what I offered. This time I have to do it the other way around.
There have been several of my players inquired about.
Feel free to reapproach so I can write this stuff down. I have become more familiar with my roster. I'm getting closer.
Part of the reason I need to start over a bit here is that a lot of stuff has moved hands
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Utah Flash's front office has had a very busy off-season ;)
Sometimes I have no idea how he does it. I suspect there might be a team of guys in an office somewhere at NASA or something
Last year I had to fire my NASA staffers as they talked me into the ill-fated Henson & Shved for Matthews & Devin Harris Points league trade.
Now, I rely solely on my IPhone, coffee, and never sleeping.
Mk
(http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/starbucks-coffee-meme.jpg)
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Ok...Ok
I've done a tad bit o homework.....I think I'm ready for people to just put their offers back on the table
In the past I made a lot of offers and had to actually keep notes on what I offered. This time I have to do it the other way around.
There have been several of my players inquired about.
Feel free to reapproach so I can write this stuff down. I have become more familiar with my roster. I'm getting closer.
Part of the reason I need to start over a bit here is that a lot of stuff has moved hands
I assume you will reconsider my Nando De Colo for Anthony Davis trade.
Mk
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Utah Flash's front office has had a very busy off-season ;)
Sometimes I have no idea how he does it. I suspect there might be a team of guys in an office somewhere at NASA or something
Last year I had to fire my NASA staffers as they talked me into the ill-fated Henson & Shved for Matthews & Devin Harris Points league trade.
Now, I rely solely on my IPhone, coffee, and never sleeping.
Mk
(http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/starbucks-coffee-meme.jpg)
Try Tim Hortons ;)
Actually don't. I think their coffee sucks. But on the other hand, you may not even have it in US.
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Utah Flash's front office has had a very busy off-season ;)
Sometimes I have no idea how he does it. I suspect there might be a team of guys in an office somewhere at NASA or something
Last year I had to fire my NASA staffers as they talked me into the ill-fated Henson & Shved for Matthews & Devin Harris Points league trade.
Now, I rely solely on my IPhone, coffee, and never sleeping.
Mk
(http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/starbucks-coffee-meme.jpg)
Try Tim Hortons ;)
Actually don't. I think their coffee sucks. But on the other hand, you may not even have it in US.
I actually really like SB's Blonde Blend. It's not as strong/bitter as the normal SB suff.
Btw, I LOVE Tim Horton's coffee. A couple of times each year, I head up to Northern Maine on some fishing trips. Tim Hortons coffee is a staple of the drive up and back.
On my last trip, I picked up a box of Tim Hortons K-Cups, but it's a little weak, so I ended doing 6 or 8oz twice instead of the normal 10.
Mk
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/red_savage1/Coffee/Tim-Horton-pot-of-coffee-animated.gif)
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Utah Flash's front office has had a very busy off-season ;)
Sometimes I have no idea how he does it. I suspect there might be a team of guys in an office somewhere at NASA or something
Last year I had to fire my NASA staffers as they talked me into the ill-fated Henson & Shved for Matthews & Devin Harris Points league trade.
Now, I rely solely on my IPhone, coffee, and never sleeping.
Mk
(http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/shortorder/starbucks-coffee-meme.jpg)
Try Tim Hortons ;)
Actually don't. I think their coffee sucks. But on the other hand, you may not even have it in US.
I actually really like SB's Blonde Blend. It's not as strong/bitter as the normal SB suff.
Btw, I LOVE Tim Horton's coffee. A couple of times each year, I head up to Northern Maine on some fishing trips. Tim Hortons coffee is a staple of the drive up and back.
On my last trip, I picked up a box of Tim Hortons K-Cups, but it's a little weak, so I ended doing 6 or 8oz twice instead of the normal 10.
Mk
(http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq288/red_savage1/Coffee/Tim-Horton-pot-of-coffee-animated.gif)
Well, you'll fit in perfectly in Canada. You already love Timmy's. Now all you need to do is end almost every sentence in a conversation with an "eh", use maple syrup when you order pancakes, pretend like poutine is the next best thing to sliced bread...and use the metric system. Oh, and read this book for more help:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/1528274257_12c0b93ba4.jpg)
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
Like the trade for both teams.
KKR gets a productive SF who should help a contender like Rondo2287.
Flash pick up what seems to be like their 100th draft pick ;)
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Flash pick up what seems to be like their 100th draft pick ;)
Utah now has three #1s and no #2s -- which of course is subject to change the way he's been wheelin/dealin'.
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Nando De Colo is available for ANY 2014 #2. Just send the offer and I will accept it.
Mk
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Need to trim my roster. Make an offer...
Chase Budinger
Ed Davis
Landry Fields
Alonzo Gee
Mo Harkless
James Johnson
Meyers Leonard
John Lucas
Kendall Marshall
E'Twaun Moore
Byron Mullens
A.J. Price
Kyle Singler
Lance Stephenson
Kemba Walker
Tyler Zeller
Nikola Pekovic
Bismack Biyombo
MarShon Brooks
Otto Porter
Shabazz Muhammad
Shane Larkin
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Trade Announcement
Utah Flash trades Nerlens Noel
Larrybird17 trades Tristen Thomson, Austin Rivers, and his #2.
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Trade Announcement
Utah Flash trades Nerlens Noel
Larrybird17 trades Tristen Thomson, Austin Rivers, and his #2.
Wow, surprising trade! LB17 gets Noel and oladipo. Nice
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Nando De Colo is available for ANY 2014 #2. Just send the offer and I will accept it.
Mk
DeColo = 309 Y! rank
Alan Anderson = 246
Trevor Booker = 269
Either also avail for a 2nd rounder. Just sayin. 8)
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The deal is done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hToCPkczHEU
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Nando De Colo is available for ANY 2014 #2. Just send the offer and I will accept it.
Mk
DeColo = 309 Y! rank
Alan Anderson = 246
Trevor Booker = 269
Either also avail for a 2nd rounder. Just sayin. 8)
Your Nando De Colo Fan Club membership has been revoked.
Mk
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Jeremy Lin, Marcus T and Ersan are gone. Others still available.
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Jeremy Lin, Marcus T and Ersan are gone. Others still available.
something tells me Eja has struck again
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Jeremy Lin, Marcus T and Ersan are gone. Others still available.
something tells me Eja has struck again
You never count your money while sittin at the table. There'll be time enough for countin. When the deal is done
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Jeremy Lin, Marcus T and Ersan are gone. Others still available.
something tells me Eja has struck again
Yeah, just waiting for Mr. Silver to announce ;)
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Eja hath made his first trade here and this is what the negotiations were like...get it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h4YuR4qamc
get it? I'm runnin with the bucks. I'm in the reindeer games
oh for cryin out loud...stupid youtube
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Jeremy Lin, Marcus T and Ersan are gone. Others still available.
something tells me Eja has struck again
You never count your money while sittin at the table. There'll be time enough for countin. When the deal is done
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VC3PFqxyw0s/TlLMy_Xe6oI/AAAAAAAAB9o/itk1pxz09YY/s320/Kenny-Rogers-The-Gambler-290106.jpg)
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Trade to Announce:
Designated Drinkers trade Jeremy Lin, Marcus Thornton, Ersan Ilyasova
Eja THE Gambler trades Carlos Boozer, Monta Ellis and Andre Miller
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Wow, nice trade for DDs. I like Ersan, but Boozer is an upgrade, and Monta Ellis is much better than Lin. Thorton may have a bounceback season, and Andre Miller is just about done so there is some upside for Eja there, but overall I think DDs win this deal.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
This trade makes me a little sad, because if I was still in control of the Naturals, I would have trumped that deal. I'm surprised that more teams didn't jump on Deng for a #1.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
I'm surprised that more teams didn't jump on Deng for a #1.
Agreed 100%
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
This trade makes me a little sad, because if I was still in control of the Naturals, I would have trumped that deal. I'm surprised that more teams didn't jump on Deng for a #1.
agreed, and Toine's Boys have no #1s unfortunately
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
This trade makes me a little sad, because if I was still in control of the Naturals, I would have trumped that deal. I'm surprised that more teams didn't jump on Deng for a #1.
agreed, and Toine's Boys have no #1s unfortunately
Yeah, especially since Mk had made known his asking price very public.
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Yeah, especially since Mk had made known his asking price very public.
I kinda assumed my 1st wouldn't be enough to get it done, since he said contenders would need more, and wasn't too keen on adding too much on top to get another wing. KKR had a better regular-season record than me, so I guess I miscalculated.
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Yeah, especially since Mk had made known his asking price very public.
I kinda assumed my 1st wouldn't be enough to get it done, since he said contenders would need more, and wasn't too keen on adding too much on top to get another wing. KKR had a better regular-season record than me, so I guess I miscalculated.
assumed= 'ass' + 'u' and 'me'
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assumed= 'ass' + 'u' and 'me'
And 'd'! Which doesn't count for too much in fantasy :)
Oh well, back to the block. Here are some guys that are at different degrees of availability:
Rudy Gay
Omer Asik
JR Smith
OJ Mayo
Reggie Evans
Nate Robinson
Brandon Knight
Jameer Nelson
Kelly Olynyk
Jermaine O'Neal
Willing to talk about just about anybody, though I'm pretty attached to the better guys not on this list.
I'm looking for an upgrade at PG, but I'm also interested in better bigs as well. Not really interested in more wings, or 2 for 1 type deals. Let's chat!
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
This trade makes me a little sad, because if I was still in control of the Naturals, I would have trumped that deal. I'm surprised that more teams didn't jump on Deng for a #1.
agreed, and Toine's Boys have no #1s unfortunately
Yeah, especially since Mk had made known his asking price very public.
I can only do so much. Only one team approached me with a deal. I had to shop him hard, but I am happy with the return.
Can't give away 28 y/o SFs who ave 17ppg 7rbs.
Mk
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Still open for business; although I'm liking my new look roster:
J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
LaMarcus Aldridge
Brandon Jennings
Monta Ellis
Carlos Boozer
Andre Miller
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Wow, nice trade for DDs. I like Ersan, but Boozer is an upgrade, and Monta Ellis is much better than Lin. Thorton may have a bounceback season, and Andre Miller is just about done so there is some upside for Eja there, but overall I think DDs win this deal.
I agree that the trade was production for upside and youth and that DD got the production. He wins this trade this year.
Gotta....knoooowww when to hold em.....knoooww when to fold em.
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Actively shopping (what seems like my entire team):
Marco Belinelli
Kosta Koufos
Eric Maynor
Arnett Moultrie
Steve Novak
Zaza Pachulia
Thomas Robinson
Alexey Shved
Marreese Speights
Dwyane Wade
Lou Williams
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Rondo is available for a younger PG. Depending on the name of the other PG, additional consideration may be needed.
Mk
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Rondo is available for a younger PG. Depending on the name of the other PG, additional consideration may be needed.
Mk
Shved or L. Williams. Done. ;D
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Rondo is available for a younger PG. Depending on the name of the other PG, additional consideration may be needed.
Mk
Shved or L. Williams. Done. ;D
You know I love Shved!
Mk
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Rondo is available for a younger PG. Depending on the name of the other PG, additional consideration may be needed.
Mk
Shved or L. Williams. Done. ;D
You know I love Shved!
Mk
I have two...yeah, that's right two PGs that can be yours - Barea and Brooks :P
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Taking offers on everyone...including LeBron and Griffin.
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I've said all along i wasn't moving Russell Westbrook, but if you have a serious offer* for him I guess I should listen.
I'd put the chances of moving him at about 10%, but stranger things have happened.
(A 2nd string PG, a 36 year old SF/PF and a 2nd rounder isn't a serious offer IMO; Westbrook is the 5-7 best player in the NBA...)
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This is what the roster is like at the moment. Always open to listening to offers.
Mike Conley
Trey Burke
Michael Carter-Williams
Jordan Crawford
Gary Neal
Shannon Brown
Allen Crabbe
Kawhi Leonard
Evan Turner
Dorell Wright
Jae Crowder
Solomon Hill
Al Horford
Jonas Jerebko
DeJuan Blair
Tiago Splitter
Ekpe Udoh
Kendrick Perkins
Channing Frye
Own 2014 #1
Designated Drinkers #1
Own 2014 #2
Utah Flash #2
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Aaron Brooks is available for any second rounder.
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Where is THE Walker Wiggle? I'd sent him a few PMs some days back but haven't heard from him. Also, I noticed that he has yet to register his team on Y!.
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So, it looks like Barea and Brooks are gone. But there are still 14 more players. Lets negotiate ;)
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Does anybody compare their team from previous years? Don't mean to toot my own horn, but I like my team now from what I had when I took over in 2010 (two weeks before the playoffs, I believe).
2010 season end roster: (finished 18/20)
J.J. Barea
Michael Beasley
Rodrigue Beaubois
Marcus Camby
Nick Collison
Daequan Cook
Tim Duncan
Wayne Ellington
T.J. Ford
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Courtney Lee
Lamar Odom
Zaza Pachulia
Mickael Pietrus
Shawne Williams
2011 season end roster: (finished 6/20)
Gustavo Ayon
J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Andrew Bogut
Aaron Brooks
Mario Chalmers
Luol Deng
Paul George
Marcin Gortat
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Anthony Morrow
Timofey Mozgov
Brandon Rush
Rodney Stuckey
2012 season end roster: (finished 2/20)
J.J. Barea
Andray Blatche
Trevor Booker
Aaron Brooks
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Luol Deng
Paul George
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
Ersan Ilyasova
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Jason Kidd
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Trade to Announce:
Utah Flash send Tony Mitchell and LB17's 2014 #2
Webkins send Lucas "BeBe" Nogueira
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So, it looks like Barea and Brooks are gone. But there are still 14 more players. Lets negotiate ;)
just a reminder that for the next 2 weeks trade confirmations go to me -- while Lucky is vacationing in the southern hemisphere...
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RUMOR!!!!
The Utah Flash are in deep negotiations on trading it's #1 pick in next year's historical draft.
(http://rookiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/wiggins-and-parker-300x246.png)
A trusted source also has leaked the projected top 14 players and their NBA comparisons:
1 Andrew Wiggins SF LeBron James
2 Julius Randle PF LaMarcus Aldridge
3 Jabari Parker SF/PF Carmelo Anthony
4 Marcus Smart PG Deron Williams
5 Dante Exum PG Penny Hardaway
6 Joel Embiid C Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon
7 Aaron Gordon PF Blake Griffin
8 Andrew Harrison PG/SG Dion Waiters
9 Glenn Robinson III SF Andre Iguodala
10 Wayne Selden SG Dwyane Wade-lite
11 Montrezl Harrell PF Kenneth Faried
12 Willie Cauley-Stein C Joakim Noah
13 Mario Hezonja SF Danillo Gallinari
14 Mitch McGary PF/C Bill Laimbeer
Mk
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RUMOR!!!!
The Utah Flash are in deep negotiations on trading it's #1 pick in next year's historical draft.
(http://rookiewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/wiggins-and-parker-300x246.png)
A trusted source also has leaked the projected top 14 players and their NBA comparisons:
1 Andrew Wiggins SF LeBron James
2 Julius Randle PF LaMarcus Aldridge
3 Jabari Parker SF/PF Carmelo Anthony
4 Marcus Smart PG Deron Williams
5 Dante Exum PG Penny Hardaway
6 Joel Embiid C Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon
7 Aaron Gordon PF Blake Griffin
8 Andrew Harrison PG/SG Dion Waiters
9 Glenn Robinson III SF Andre Iguodala
10 Wayne Selden SG Dwyane Wade-lite
11 Montrezl Harrell PF Kenneth Faried
12 Willie Cauley-Stein C Joakim Noah
13 Mario Hezonja SF Danillo Gallinari
14 Mitch McGary PF/C Bill Laimbeer
Mk
Just for reference, since early July, the Utah Flash have traded these starters for draft picks:
Marcus Thornton
Greivis Vasquez
Bismack Biyombo
Nikola Pekovic
Luol Deng via Brandon Jennings
The Utah Flash have also shown the door to MarShon "The Celtics starting SG by Christmas" Brooks, Mirza "The Bosnian Steve Novak" Teletovic, Orlando "Don't call me O.J." Johnson.
In addition, Rondo's out from 20 games until after the All Star break. The current Utah Flash lineup boasts, 6 rookies and 5 second year players. Plus, Lucus Nogueira is playing in Spain this season, but he does have the best hair in the NBA:
(http://cdn.foxsports.com.br/sites/foxsports-br/files/img/notes/materia/620x465/NBA-Lucas-bebe-nogueira-draft-640x480-AP.jpg)
By the way, the fact that he is wearing a Celtics hat KILLZ me. I luv this kid.
If you would like to get in on the UF 2014 #1, you know what to do.
Mk
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Lots of activity in both leagues...
1 trade announcement in each league (involving a total of 12 players and 4 picks!) after I get my lunch on.
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Lots of activity in both leagues...
1 trade announcement in each league (involving a total of 12 players and 4 picks!) after I get my lunch on.
Who shot Jr?
Mk
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Trade Announcement
Designated Drinkers trade: Jose Barea, Aaron Brooks.
Rusted Rims trade: DJ Augustin and RR's second pick.
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Champkind... the best.
50ShadesofAaronGray is his team name in H2h this year..
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Trade Announcement
Designated Drinkers trade: Jose Barea, Aaron Brooks.
Rusted Rims trade: DJ Augustin and RR's second pick.
Not that this is an earthshaker of a deal or anything, but I'd like to say that I'm very excited to be able to trot out a JJ Barea/Nate-Rob backcourt. Puppy Power!
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Trade to Announce:
Utah Flash send Tony Mitchell and LB17's 2014 #2
Webkins send Lucas "BeBe" Nogueira
Tp.
Thanks.
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DJ Augustin + Rusted Rims' #2 is on the block.
EDIT: Everyone on the roster is available.
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Trade Announcement
Utah Flash trade their 2014 #1
Webkins trade Derrick Favors, Will Bynum
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I think I need to put my first round pick on the block. My team sucks, so it will be a good pick. Feel free to make me an offer.
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Reggie Evans may* be available for the right to swap 1st rounders. Dude singlehandedly won me the rebounding category throughout the playoffs, and had some 20+ pt games to boot. Wouldn't have made it out of the 1st round without him, let alone get a title.
*if you're a top contender I may not be willing to do it.
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My team sucks, so it will be a good pick.
Not sure I agree, YH. Granger, Harden, Wall, Wade, Josh Smith, Lou Williams are all good players. Plus, Moultrie should be productive this season with the amount of minutes he will play because of Philly's shallow pool of bigs. The likes of Belinelli and Robinson will give you decent production as well.
You're still a contender, imo. ;)
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Mo Williams & Toine's Boys (early) 2nd rounder avaiable for a 1st rounder.
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Andray Blatche
Carlos Boozer
DJ Augustin
Alec Burks
Vince Carter
Earl Clark
Brandon Jennings
LaMarcus Aldridge
Marcin Gortat
Blake Griffin
Gordon Hayward
LeBron James
Joe Johnson
Monta Ellis
Andre Miller
Rusted Rims' #2
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Mo Williams & Toine's Boys (early) 2nd rounder avaiable for a 1st rounder.
just saying, I don't expect my 2nd rounder to be considered early
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Mo Williams & Toine's Boys (early) 2nd rounder avaiable for a 1st rounder.
Glad I got deng for a first earlier on :P
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Mo Williams & Toine's Boys (early) 2nd rounder avaiable for a 1st rounder.
Glad I got deng for a first earlier on :P
Deng for a late 1st is a complete steal, though.
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Toine's Boys roster, open for trade discussions:
(players in red available for any offer, players in green are very high priced)
Harrison Barnes
Rodrigue Beaubois
Andrew Bogut
Goran Dragic
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon
Jeff Green
Metta World Peace
Orlando Johnson
Brook Lopez
Rodney Stuckey
Donatas Motiejunas
Greivis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Hedo Turkoglu
Beno Udrih
Mirza Teletovic
Jason Smith
Royce White
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I wish I had a first rounder to try and poach one of Mk's players ;) :'(
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Gortat + Augustin/Miller + RR's #2 available as package for an upgrade at the C position.
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I have a ton of guys available NOW! Shoot me your offers before I go ahead and take some of the lame offers already sent my way. I need to trim my roster, so 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 gets preference!
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Kendrick Perkins, Allen Crabbe, and Jordan Crawford are available for 2nd rounders.
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DJ Augustin or Andre Miller available for a second rounder.
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A rejuvenated Jermaine O'Neal is available for a 2nd round pick. 11 pts, 7 rebounds, and 1.7 blocks with 87% FT shooting after the All-Star Break, and he's backing up Andrew Bogut. Good buy low opportunity.
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Offer up! THese guys are all available - some for a 2nd, some it would take a bit more. Hope to package a few for one asset...
UPDATE: James Johnson, Budinger and Fields available as a package for any 1st rounder.
Chase Budinger
Landry Fields
Alonzo Gee
James Johnson
Byron Mullens
A.J. Price
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Trade Announcement
eja trades Timofy Mosgov
MMSB trades John Lucas, Etwaun Moore, and Kendall Marshall
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For those looking to build for the future, I have a couple of guys that I have stashed but should probably trade now. Mike Scott and Tornike Shengelia are now on the block.
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I've got a pretty strong offer on the table for Kelly Olynyk. Not sure if I'll take it but I am interested in seeing what else is out there. Hit me with your best shot!
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Nick/Roy, Jgod and TWW have yet to select their keepers if I am not wrong.
When is the cutdown date? I saw Oct 13th somewhere in this thread. Is that correct?
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Nick/Roy, Jgod and TWW have yet to select their keepers if I am not wrong.
When is the cutdown date? I saw Oct 13th somewhere in this thread. Is that correct?
I know I haven't done it yet and I know the deadline hasn't hit. Not sure when it will be but my guess is my draft choice from this year will not be amongst those kept. So if anyone wants him, Alex Abrines, and wants to send me a future 2nd rounder for him, hit me up, otherwise you can try to get him off the waiver wire when I cut him and claim my 15 keepers.
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Nick/Roy, Jgod and TWW have yet to select their keepers if I am not wrong.
When is the cutdown date? I saw Oct 13th somewhere in this thread. Is that correct?
I know I haven't done it yet and I know the deadline hasn't hit. Not sure when it will be but my guess is my draft choice from this year will not be amongst those kept. So if anyone wants him, Alex Abrines, and wants to send me a future 2nd rounder for him, hit me up, otherwise you can try to get him off the waiver wire when I cut him and claim my 15 keepers.
weren't we supposed to select all the keepers in yahoo and then later on lucky would process actual keepers and unprocessed trades?
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Yes regardless of your roster changes this year, everyone should select everyone as your keepers for right now. It will make Lucky's job easier when it's time to load the correct rosters.
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Yes regardless of your roster changes this year, everyone should select everyone as your keepers for right now. It will make Lucky's job easier when it's time to load the correct rosters.
Not to be redundant, but....
A. Everyone should sign up in Yahoo! and use the system to keep all the players on your team (whether or not they are still on your team and regardless of whether you *will* keep them).
As Kwhit said this will save Lucky a lot of time -- in as much as he'll just have to change out players that got moved, drafted, etc. rather than having to upload 16 players (via search on the player page) x 20 teams... :P
B. Cutdown date is October 13. I believe we've done that in the past either by posting here or PMing Lucky.
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Trade Announcement
Utah trades Lucas "BeBe" Nogueira
Eja trades Marcus Camby
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The Google roster sheet doesn't have the last several moves reflected on it yet -- sorry i've been swamped at work. should be able to fix tomorrow or Wed.
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New to logistics of the league and Lucky is still on vacation for another week or so, so I am in no hurry. I will get to it eventually.
Still if you want Alex Abrines, he is yours for a pick
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Boom.
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Boom.
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Boom.
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I assume Westbrooks new surgery...
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Boom.
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I assume Westbrooks new surgery...
ugh! didn't know about that yet
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Boom.
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I assume Westbrooks new surgery...
ugh! didn't know about that yet
Better now than later in the season, I guess.
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No comment... jerks.
:D
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Boom.
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I assume Westbrooks new surgery...
So I guess he was untouchable, but not uncuttable? :P
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LAUGH IT UP FUZZBALLSSSS!
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LAUGH IT UP FUZZBALLSSSS!
Wanna trade your knee injury for my achilles injury? I'll throw in wilfork too.
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I'll trade your current one early season injury for our multiple late season injuries over the last 2 seasons that cost us two titles.
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Taking a cue from Mk here, Joe Johnson may be available for a first round pick.
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Feel free to be one of my Celts Blog profile buddies if you are in the leagues. It's easier to find you and make horrid trade proposals (in both directions) if we are buddies. Nobody shall see buddying with me of endorsement of my self-indulgent anti-societal grammar lacking rants. Nor shall it be construed as disagreement with said rants either
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(http://zachbussey.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Why-You-So-Quiet.jpg)
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BECAUSE I'M WATCHING NEWHART!!!!!! >:(
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David Lee is likely to come available at some point....at that point I'll be looking for something like a decent first, decent 2nd, and young prospect sorta of the Tyler Zeller variety....doesn't necessarily have to be a big by any means. Actually I'm looking more for a swing. I just tried to give an example of the goodness of the prospect
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I think Nicola Mirotic is on my team. I don't see him on the google doc.
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I think Nicola Mirotic is on my team. I don't see him on the google doc.
I thought so too, but I'm gonna let Lucky straighten that out if it's OK?
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Trade Announcement
Utah trades Toine's Boys's 2014 #1 and Austin Rivers
Webkins trade Tyreke Evans
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Trade Announcement
Utah trades Toine's Boys's 2014 #1 and Austin Rivers
Webkins trade Tyreke Evans
Austin Rivers is really getting passed around
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Ooh oooh! Pass him over to me! I've got tooonnnnnsss of crud to offer! Tons!
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I think Nicola Mirotic is on my team. I don't see him on the google doc.
I thought so too, but I'm gonna let Lucky straighten that out if it's OK?
Works for me.
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Still looking to make some moves. Brooklyn's go to guy in the last 24 seconds is still available - for a player or pick or both.
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DJ Augustin is going to prove some people wrong....or maybe just one person - ME. ;D
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RR's second rounder is also available for cheap if the player you want to trade is able to get 15-17 minutes of court time on a nightly basis.
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Trade on the board:
Kwhit sends: Jeremy Lin
Kwhit receives: Designated Drinkers 2014 1st rounder
Utah Flash sends: LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Jennings, Designated Drinkers 2014 1st rounder
Utah Flash receives: Paul George, Luol Deng, Nando De Colo, Tony Mitchell
Designated Drinkers sends: Paul George, Luol Deng, Nando De Colo, Tony Mitchell
Designated Drinkers receives: LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Jennings, Jeremy Lin
Turning my evil eye back towards the fantasy league which most plagued me last season.
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/23860/Lord_of_the_Rings_23860.jpg)
Everyone knows THE Walker Wiggle hates eight player three team trades.
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Good to see you back, TWW.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:
Utah Flash trade Luol Deng
Kobe KR trades their 2014 #1 pick
Rondo, my 1st for Deng? That's a great return for a week-long investment?
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Good to see you back, TWW.
Likewise. I'm still catching myself up though. You young guns have been busy.
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Good to see you back, TWW.
Likewise. I'm still catching myself up though. You young guns have been busy.
Yeah, after being trounced in the finals, I had to make some moves. Replaced Luol Deng, Paul George, Ersan Ilyasova with LaMarucs Aldridge, Monta Ellis, Carlos Boozer and Brandon Jennings. Giving up George wasn't easy though.
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Trade on the board:
Kwhit sends: Jeremy Lin
Kwhit receives: Designated Drinkers 2014 1st rounder
Utah Flash sends: LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Jennings, Designated Drinkers 2014 1st rounder
Utah Flash receives: Paul George, Luol Deng, Nando De Colo, Tony Mitchell
Designated Drinkers sends: Paul George, Luol Deng, Nando De Colo, Tony Mitchell
Designated Drinkers receives: LaMarcus Aldridge, Brandon Jennings, Jeremy Lin
Turning my evil eye back towards the fantasy league which most plagued me last season.
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/23860/Lord_of_the_Rings_23860.jpg)
Everyone knows THE Walker Wiggle hates eight player three team trades.
Glad to see you back.
Mk
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For those teams who consider themselves contenders. Will "The Thrill" Bynum is available for a 2014 #2. In a mere 19 min/game, Will put up 9.8 pts & 3.6 ast (career 8.1 pts & 3.2 asts). For a likely #35-#40 pick in the draft, this is a bargain.
Bynum IS the type player that you will be longing for in March, but won't be available to you.
Make a deal for him now before your competition does.
Mk
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RR's second rounder is also available for cheap if the player you want to trade is able to get 15-17 minutes of court time on a nightly basis.
Well I offered Jason Maxiell... so there you go. Ergo:
(a) you gotta beat Max
(b) you can still swoop in and get Max while BFM waits for a "better offer"
(c) "but Maxiell put up those 7 pts / 6 reb/ 1.3 blk as a starter in DET... He ain't starting no mo," you say...
Right, but it was in only 24 mpg, which he will get as the first big off the bench in ORL (and poss. starter in Big Baby's absence (i happen to think starting Tobias Harris as the PF will mess with his development...)).
(d) Max's 1.3 blk were good for 27th in the NBA last year.
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Chase Budinger
Landry Fields
Alonzo Gee
Byron Mullens
A.J. Price
Looking to package a few of these guys for one player or a future pick. All of these guys have some decent value in one category or another.
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Also, what is the deal with Yahoo! rosters? THe rosters are up but they aren't totally correct. My Mozgov deal with eja is not processed... and I am sure there are others.
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Also, what is the deal with Yahoo! rosters? THe rosters are up but they aren't totally correct. My Mozgov deal with eja is not processed... and I am sure there are others.
Lucky asked teams to join Yahoo, select all of the 16 players on your team at the end of last year as your keepers. This is purely fuctional -- and DOESN'T affect who'll be on your roster for the 2013-14 season.
After cut-down day (Oct. 13... this sunday, unless Lucky extends it), he'll go into Yahoo! as the Commissioner and make the changes necessary to match the players you "kept" on Yahoo! and your real roster.
For some teams like Too Talented To Fail this will mean making no changes (so far), for others like Utah it will mean almost the entire roster changing.
But overall it will mean a lot less work for Lucky.
All clear?
In the offseason Lucky keeps up a Google Doc for the roster (and I've been updating in his absence). You can see that doc here. I think only 1 trade hasn't been reflected on the sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&usp=sharing
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The Utah Flash officially announce their final pre-Y! H2H League roster:
1 Rajon Rondo
2 Dennis Schröder
3 Tyreke Evans
4 Jeremy Lamb
5 Paul George
6 Tobias Harris
7 Tristan Thompson
8 Derrick Favors
9 Roy Hibbert
10 Cody Zeller
11 John Henson
12 Terrence Jones
13 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
14 Archie Goodwin
15 Tim Hardaway, Jr.
16 Nando De Colo
2014 Draft Picks:
Kobe KR's #1
Waived/Cut:
The Utah Flash would like to thank both Marcus and Will for their contributions.
Please leave your practice uniforms and playbooks at the front desk.
1 Will Bynum
(http://counterkicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/will-bynum-above-the-rim.jpg)
2 Marcus Camby
(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/50c10760ecad047f7700001c-1200/marcus-camby-age-38-plays-for-the-new-york-knicks.jpg)
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Also, what is the deal with Yahoo! rosters? THe rosters are up but they aren't totally correct. My Mozgov deal with eja is not processed... and I am sure there are others.
Lucky asked teams to join Yahoo, select all of the 16 players on your team at the end of last year as your keepers. This is purely fuctional -- and DOESN'T affect who'll be on your roster for the 2013-14 season.
After cut-down day (Oct. 13... this sunday, unless Lucky extends it), he'll go into Yahoo! as the Commissioner and make the changes necessary to match the players you "kept" on Yahoo! and your real roster.
For some teams like Too Talented To Fail this will mean making no changes (so far), for others like Utah it will mean almost the entire roster changing.
But overall it will mean a lot less work for Lucky.
All clear?
In the offseason Lucky keeps up a Google Doc for the roster (and I've been updating in his absence). You can see that doc here. I think only 1 trade hasn't been reflected on the sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&usp=sharing
In case this is not the trade you are referring to, it's also not reflected in the Google doc yet.
Tyreke Evans (Webkins) for TB's #1 & Austin Rivers (Utah Flash)
Mk
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Also, what is the deal with Yahoo! rosters? THe rosters are up but they aren't totally correct. My Mozgov deal with eja is not processed... and I am sure there are others.
Lucky asked teams to join Yahoo, select all of the 16 players on your team at the end of last year as your keepers. This is purely fuctional -- and DOESN'T affect who'll be on your roster for the 2013-14 season.
After cut-down day (Oct. 13... this sunday, unless Lucky extends it), he'll go into Yahoo! as the Commissioner and make the changes necessary to match the players you "kept" on Yahoo! and your real roster.
For some teams like Too Talented To Fail this will mean making no changes (so far), for others like Utah it will mean almost the entire roster changing.
But overall it will mean a lot less work for Lucky.
All clear?
In the offseason Lucky keeps up a Google Doc for the roster (and I've been updating in his absence). You can see that doc here. I think only 1 trade hasn't been reflected on the sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&usp=sharing
In case this is not the trade you are referring to, it's also not reflected in the Google doc yet.
Tyreke Evans (Webkins) for TB's #1 & Austin Rivers (Utah Flash)
Mk
that's the one trade that hadn't been processed on the roster sheet. It is now.
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Also, what is the deal with Yahoo! rosters? THe rosters are up but they aren't totally correct. My Mozgov deal with eja is not processed... and I am sure there are others.
Lucky asked teams to join Yahoo, select all of the 16 players on your team at the end of last year as your keepers. This is purely fuctional -- and DOESN'T affect who'll be on your roster for the 2013-14 season.
After cut-down day (Oct. 13... this sunday, unless Lucky extends it), he'll go into Yahoo! as the Commissioner and make the changes necessary to match the players you "kept" on Yahoo! and your real roster.
For some teams like Too Talented To Fail this will mean making no changes (so far), for others like Utah it will mean almost the entire roster changing.
But overall it will mean a lot less work for Lucky.
All clear?
In the offseason Lucky keeps up a Google Doc for the roster (and I've been updating in his absence). You can see that doc here. I think only 1 trade hasn't been reflected on the sheet.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqAKypeeNiSddDVXbmV3SG90NEtHZG9NT2ppLUFmRmc&usp=sharing
In case this is not the trade you are referring to, it's also not reflected in the Google doc yet.
Tyreke Evans (Webkins) for TB's #1 & Austin Rivers (Utah Flash)
Mk
that's the one trade that hadn't been processed on the roster sheet. It is now.
TP!
Mk
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blake will be dropping TORNIKE SHENGELIA and putting Reggie "Mr. May" Jackson in his spot.
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I have an open roster spot, so if anybody is looking to move a player to trim down their roster, hit me up.
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If you liked the improvement from Jordan Crawford showcased last night, he is available for a second rounder.
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(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/28831622.jpg)
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Is tomorrow the keepers deadline?
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i would still do a 2 for 1 deal if anyone is interested
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Is tomorrow the keepers deadline?
Do we announce keepers here?
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Mike Dunleavy
Patrick Patterson
Courtney Lee
Corey Brewer
Caron Butler
take any of these 2 for 1
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Mike Dunleavy
Patrick Patterson
Courtney Lee
Caron Butler
take any of these 2 for 1
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Rubio & his Friends cut Victor Claver and James Ennis.
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Kobe's Ko Rapists will cut Livio Jean-Charles and Antawn Jamison
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Rusted Rims final roster:
JJ Barea
Jameer Nelson
Brandon Knight
Patrick Beverley
Nate Robinson
JR Smith
OJ Mayo
Danny Green
Klay Thompson
Chandler Parsons
Rudy Gay
Carmelo Anthony
Reggie Evans
Kelly Olynyk
Omer Asik
Greg Monroe
DROP:
Aaron Brooks
Jermaine O'Neal
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Toine's Boys final roster:
Rodney Stuckey
Goran Dragic
Eric Gordon
Harrison Barnes
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeff Green
Andrew Bogut
Brook Lopez
Andre Drummond
Metta World Peace
Beno Udrih
Grevis Vasquez
Jared Sullinger
Mirza Teletovich
Royce White
Jason Smith
cut:
Rodrigue Beaubois
Hedo Turkoglu
Orlando Johnson
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I was under the impression cut down day was the 13th, but maybe that's the points league
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I was under the impression cut down day was the 13th, but maybe that's the points league
I don't really know, but I'll be out all weekend so might as well take care of it anyway. If you dig back in the thread it's probably listed somewhere.
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Yes regardless of your roster changes this year, everyone should select everyone as your keepers for right now. It will make Lucky's job easier when it's time to load the correct rosters.
Not to be redundant, but....
A. Everyone should sign up in Yahoo! and use the system to keep all the players on your team (whether or not they are still on your team and regardless of whether you *will* keep them).
As Kwhit said this will save Lucky a lot of time -- in as much as he'll just have to change out players that got moved, drafted, etc. rather than having to upload 16 players (via search on the player page) x 20 teams... :P
B. Cutdown date is October 13. I believe we've done that in the past either by posting here or PMing Lucky.
I was right!!!! Luke. Tell your sister I was right.
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I have 15 players on my roster, so if you want to trade the player you are going to drop, let me know. Depending on the player, I can offer RR's second round pick. May as well get a second rounder instead of dropping a player for nothing :P ;)
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Myfinal roster:
C-Enes Katner
C-Chris Kaman
C-DeAndre Jordan
PF-Kenneth Faried
PF-Patrick Patterson
PF-Andrew Nicholson
SF-Derrick Williams
SF-Caron Butler
SF-Corey Brewer
SF-Nick Young
SG-Ben McLemore
SG-Courtney Lee
SG-Jerrod Bayless
PG-Damian Lillard
PG-Isiah Thomas
PG-Ramon Sessions
Drop:
Mike Dunleavy
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Draft Dodgers cut: Hamed Haddai We Like to Party
One more cut to come tomorrow. Marvin Williams and Wayne Ellington won't be cut, but are going up on the block. I'm also happy to shop my 2014 1st - it was *ugh* the third pick this summer.
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I'm back from vacation. Still getting used to the time difference, so I'll need a little time to get caught up with everything, including the league.
I'd said Sunday, Oct 13 was the cut down date, so I feel we should stick to that. Midnight Eastern/9 PM Pacific will be the deadline for all teams to cut down to 16 players.
I'll update the google docs tomorrow during the day, based on what people have posted here or emailed me as far as cuts go.
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Kwhit10's Roster:
Keepers:
1-DeJuan Blair
2-Mike Conley
3-Jordan Crawford
4-Jae Crowder
5-Channing Frye
6-Al Horford
7-Jonas Jerebko
8-Kawhi Leonard
9-Gary Neal
10-Ekpe Udoh
11-Tiago Splitter
12-Evan Turner
13-Dorell Wright
14-Trey Burke
15-Michael Carter-Williams
16-Solomon Hill
Cut:
Kendrick Perkins
Allen Crabbe
Shannon Brown
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I'm relying a lot on the spreadsheet, which I think is accurate for my team
I fold the following cards
Grant Hill
John Salmons
Ronny Turiaf
Rashard Lewis
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I'm relying a lot on the spreadsheet, which I think is accurate for my team
I fold the following cards
Grant Hill
John Salmons
Ronny Turiaf
Rashard Lewis
The four horsemen of the apocalypse.
Mk
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Always dangerous to post a roster after drinking but....
1. R Westbrook
2. Mo Williams
3. N. Nedovic
4. I. Shumpert
5. J. Meeks
6. CJ Miles
7. A Kirilenko
8. Jordan Hamilton
9. N. Vucevic
10. Marcus Morris
11. Lavoy Allen
12. Al Jefferson
13. J. Maxiell
14. Elton Brand
15. Rudy Gobert
16. Al Hadrington
Cuts:
Mahinmi
Tr. Booker
Will Barton
Alan Anderson
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I tried hard being a seller -- offering Mo Williams, Al Jefferson and Kirilenko to most of the league and finding no takers, so maybe we'll become buyers despite Westbrooks injury. Let me know if you're looking to move someone ;-)
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Did all GMs make the cut-down date?
Mk
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Did all GMs make the cut-down date?
Mk
I made mine..
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Whoops. I thought we did the cut-downs on this via Yahoo's keepers. I will be dropping Kyle O'Quinn and Ray McCallum, Jr.
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Whoops. I thought we did the cut-downs on this via Yahoo's keepers. I will be dropping Kyle O'Quinn and Ray McCallum, Jr.
Yeah, I think the keeper function is going to be more trouble than it's worth. I may scrap it altogether.
I believe there are four teams yet to publicly announce their cuts.
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Guys,
My apologies for not taking care of this sooner - I am in the midst of moving as well as dealing with further health issues with my father. I won't have internet at my new place until Wednesday, so I have to do everything from my office at work.
My cuts in H2H are going to be the following (regrettably)...
Chase Budinger
Alonzo Gee
AJ Price
Timofey Mozgov
Giving me a roster of...
Ed Davis
Mo Harkless
James Johnson
Meyers Leonard
Byron Mullens
Kyle Singler
Lance Stephenson
Kemba Walker
Tyler Zeller
Bismack Biyombo
MarShon Brooks
Nikola Pekovic
Otto Porter
Shabazz Muhammad
Shane Larkin
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Guys,
My apologies for not taking care of this sooner - I am in the midst of moving as well as dealing with further health issues with my father. I won't have internet at my new place until Wednesday, so I have to do everything from my office at work.
My cuts in H2H are going to be the following (regrettably)...
Chase Budinger
Alonzo Gee
AJ Price
Timofey Mozgov
Giving me a roster of...
Ed Davis
Mo Harkless
James Johnson
Meyers Leonard
Byron Mullens
Kyle Singler
Lance Stephenson
Kemba Walker
Tyler Zeller
Bismack Biyombo
MarShon Brooks
Nikola Pekovic
Otto Porter
Shabazz Muhammad
Shane Larkin
Prayers going out to ur father and yourself
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Guys,
My apologies for not taking care of this sooner - I am in the midst of moving as well as dealing with further health issues with my father. I won't have internet at my new place until Wednesday, so I have to do everything from my office at work.
My cuts in H2H are going to be the following (regrettably)...
Chase Budinger
Alonzo Gee
AJ Price
Timofey Mozgov
Giving me a roster of...
Ed Davis
Mo Harkless
James Johnson
Meyers Leonard
Byron Mullens
Kyle Singler
Lance Stephenson
Kemba Walker
Tyler Zeller
Bismack Biyombo
MarShon Brooks
Nikola Pekovic
Otto Porter
Shabazz Muhammad
Shane Larkin
Prayers going out to ur father and yourself
yes, thoughts and prayers for you and your father, glad to see you back here
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Guys,
My apologies for not taking care of this sooner - I am in the midst of moving as well as dealing with further health issues with my father. I won't have internet at my new place until Wednesday, so I have to do everything from my office at work.
My cuts in H2H are going to be the following (regrettably)...
Chase Budinger
Alonzo Gee
AJ Price
Timofey Mozgov
Giving me a roster of...
Ed Davis
Mo Harkless
James Johnson
Meyers Leonard
Byron Mullens
Kyle Singler
Lance Stephenson
Kemba Walker
Tyler Zeller
Bismack Biyombo
MarShon Brooks
Nikola Pekovic
Otto Porter
Shabazz Muhammad
Shane Larkin
Prayers going out to ur father and yourself
yes, thoughts and prayers for you and your father, glad to see you back here
agreed..definitely take care of that
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Mirza Teletovich tonight: 21 points, 7 boards, 5 assists, 5-9 from 3pt land
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Unless I've overlooked something, I believe I still need official roster cuts from the following GMs:
Kane (Webskins)
nick (TTTF)
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Unless I've overlooked something, I believe I still need official roster cuts from the following GMs:
Kane (Webskins)
nick (TTTF)
Alex Abrines is cut
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Unless I've overlooked something, I believe I still need official roster cuts from the following GMs:
Kane (Webskins)
nick (TTTF)
Alex Abrines is cut
Thanks, nick. Had a feeling he was the one.
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Just heard from Kane on his cuts, so that's 20 of 20.
I'll be loading rosters in Yahoo shortly. By this time tomorrow, at the very latest, I think.
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Just heard from Kane on his cuts, so that's 20 of 20.
I'll be loading rosters in Yahoo shortly. By this time tomorrow, at the very latest, I think.
TP!
Mk
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Dwayne Wade is available...
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Rosters are loaded. Some announcements on the league page.
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Rosters are loaded. Some announcements on the league page.
Thanks Lucky, TP!
Mk
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When will players be on my team page? I see that the waivers players are there but not our roster
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When will players be on my team page? I see that the waivers players are there but not our roster
They are there. You have to look at tomorrow's lineup.
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When will players be on my team page? I see that the waivers players are there but not our roster
They are there. You have to look at tomorrow's lineup.
Duh, me..sorry, I should have known this..Thanks Lucky for a great job, TP
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Dang theres 2 players I want on waivers but really cant drop anyone off of my roster
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If you want the Jazz starting pg for the next 8-12 weeks he's available for a 2nd rounder
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If you want the Jazz starting pg for the next 8-12 weeks he's available for a 2nd rounder
It's actually only for 4-6 weeks ;)
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If you want the Jazz starting pg for the next 8-12 weeks he's available for a 2nd rounder
It's actually only for 4-6 weeks ;)
This is all per yahoo...essentially there are conflicting reports being floated by "sources" and the Burke camp...It's interesting that Trey says he doesn't know where the 8-12 came from, when it was apparently his agent.....https://twitter.com/DJJazzyJody/status/389781415652376576
Rookie point guard Trey Burke had surgery on Tuesday and will have his finger in a splint for the next three weeks.
Advice: He'll be reevaluated after that, as there are conflicting reports as to how long he'll be out with his broken finger. We know that he'll be out at least four weeks, and he doesn't think he'll miss more than six. The other report was 8-12 weeks, and while that does sound a little unreasonable, we won't have a good idea of his return date until the splint comes off three weeks from now. John Lucas is expected to handle point guard duties until Burke is ready to go.
More: Aaron Falk on Twitter
(Rotoworld.com)
Player Note Tue, Oct 15
Trey Burke (fractured index finger) wrote on Tuesday that he should be out 4-6 weeks, not 8-12 weeks as reported earlier this week.
Advice: Burke is scheduled for surgery on Tuesday, but he took the time to Tweet, "8-12 weeks is very unreasonable people and [I don't know] who made that up. I appreciate the support and prayers but 4-6 weeks is more likely. Thanks." This is obviously great news for Jazz fans, as Utah's backcourt depth is razor-thin and John Lucas III is projected to start at PG until Burke recovers. We should have an official timetable after his surgery.
More: Trey Burke on Twitter
(Rotoworld.com)
Player Note Mon, Oct 14
Trey Burke is expected to miss 8-12 weeks after having surgery on Tuesday to repair his fractured index finger, according to his agent.
Advice: He'll need to have pins inserted and this is a far worse timetable than the initial 3-6 week window suggested by Burke's father on Sunday. John Lucas III becomes the starting PG by default until Burke is ready to return, and Utah will likely scour the free agent pool and trade market for another backup ball-handler. Lucas may surface as a low-end value and his per-36 numbers are worth reciting -- 15.6 points on 39.3 percent FGs, 2.3 threes, 3.2 rebounds, 4.5 assists and 1.1 steals.
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If you're gonna play the game boy, you gotta learn to play it right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3f24VObQCw
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I know Eja is looking to collect as many picks as he can, but the commish just took him behind the shed. Great great trade for Lucky.
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I know Eja is looking to collect as many picks as he can, but the commish just took him behind the shed. Great great trade for Lucky.
Couldn't agree more...that trade is atrocious for Eja.
But, as is the case, nicely done by Lucky.
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I know Eja is looking to collect as many picks as he can, but the commish just took him behind the shed. Great great trade for Lucky.
Couldn't agree more...that trade is atrocious for Eja.
But, as is the case, nicely done by Lucky.
Couldn't this deal wait until after my week one matchup with the commish?
Mk
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My only observations here are that the players I have gotten people are already asking about and nobody else seemed to offer anything close.
So barefaced....when can we expect to see you in the points league? Show us how it's done.
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This trade is fairly equal IMO. Some contending GMs may not like it since the commish landed two talented bigs, but since Eja is rebuilding a new roster, he received pretty decent value in return.
IMO, these players are just filler:
E'Twaun
Biedrins
Watson
Sef
Lucky received:
Gasol - Best player in the deal
Lee - Second best player in the deal
Flotsam
Jetsam
Eja received:
Wes Matthews - 14pts 2-3s per game SG
Jeff Taylor - He's better than you think
McGee - Shot blocking knuckhead. He'll be better this season than last.
Hawes - In line for a huge season with the Sixers. A 7 footer who can hit 3s
Lucky's 2014 #1 - Likely somewhere between #11-#15 in a great draft
Lucky's #2 - low to mid 30s.
This is a win for Lucky, who is trying to make the playoffs for the second consecutive season.
This is a win for Eja who landed a bunch of tradeable assets. Hawes, McGee, and Matthews may all have 1st round pick value trade value at the deadline.
Props & TPs to both GMs. I like the action!
Mk
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Estimation of Sef aside (I think he's fantasy relevant in terms of 3s and steals), I see it the way MK does.
Eja is living up to the gambler moniker; he's betting on improvements from McGee and Hawes this season, continued production from Wes, a leap from Taylor, and spinning my picks into gold.
Biedrins will be hitting the waiver wire; I've told him not to bother getting on the plane to Luckyville. Not sure yet if I'll hold onto Moore or CJ.
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Biedrins will be hitting the waiver wire; I've told him not to bother getting on the plane to Luckyville. Not sure yet if I'll hold onto Moore or CJ.
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left to right: Eja, Mrs. Eja, hpantazo, Mk
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left to right: Eja, Mrs. Eja, hpantazo, Mk
HP, you've really slimmed down lately. Looking good, my friend.
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(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070627004755/starwars/images/2/23/Sabaccfinal.jpg)
left to right: Eja, Mrs. Eja, hpantazo, Mk
HP, you've really slimmed down lately. Looking good, my friend.
LOL, yea, I wish I were that slim!
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This trade is fairly equal IMO. Some contending GMs may not like it since the commish landed two talented bigs, but since Eja is rebuilding a new roster, he received pretty decent value in return.
IMO, these players are just filler:
E'Twaun
Biedrins
Watson
Sef
Lucky received:
Gasol - Best player in the deal
Lee - Second best player in the deal
Flotsam
Jetsam
Eja received:
Wes Matthews - 14pts 2-3s per game SG
Jeff Taylor - He's better than you think
McGee - Shot blocking knuckhead. He'll be better this season than last.
Hawes - In line for a huge season with the Sixers. A 7 footer who can hit 3s
Lucky's 2014 #1 - Likely somewhere between #11-#15 in a great draft
Lucky's #2 - low to mid 30s.
This is a win for Lucky, who is trying to make the playoffs for the second consecutive season.
This is a win for Eja who landed a bunch of tradeable assets. Hawes, McGee, and Matthews may all have 1st round pick value trade value at the deadline.
Props & TPs to both GMs. I like the action!
Mk
I agree with this. Both teams got what they wanted out of the deal, and in terms of overall impact it's even. Lucky did better to consolidate depth, which you want to do if you're contending, and Eja did better to maximize his opportunities for growth, which you want to do if you're rebuilding. I'm on board with this one.
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So barefaced....when can we expect to see you in the points league? Show us how it's done.
I lack the kind of experience you have when it comes to fantasy sports. Wasn't trying to show you or others how trades work (I've been a part of many horrendous ones myself) but I feel that you could have gotten more for those players. Just my two cents.
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People gotta be setting their rosters asap
It's on tomorrow and I won't have your lateness stealing my glory.
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Looking to move Gortat or Blatche + YH's second round pick for a SF.
Andre Miller, Earl Clark and Alan Anderson can be had as fillers in any trade.
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left to right: Eja, Mrs. Eja, hpantazo, Mk
I just explained this pic to Mrs. eja and she said "I hate you"