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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #210 on: September 23, 2020, 11:10:13 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.


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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #211 on: September 23, 2020, 11:10:40 PM »

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At what point does these guys tune him out? Have they already tuned him out? Just a sloppy team that doesn't play smart at all. If Stevens can't get them to lock in what can you do?

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #212 on: September 23, 2020, 11:25:08 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #213 on: September 23, 2020, 11:29:44 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #214 on: September 23, 2020, 11:31:23 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?


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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #215 on: September 23, 2020, 11:31:46 PM »

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This one ain’t on Brad tonight.

I just don’t see us winning 3 straight. We’re too immature.


Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #216 on: September 23, 2020, 11:33:40 PM »

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Brad did not turn the ball over a million times tonight. He also did not miss a thousand threes in the first half...

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #217 on: September 23, 2020, 11:34:45 PM »

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We have to cut down the turnovers and adapt to Spoelstra's adjustments better. 19 turnovers to 8 we won't win if we don't take care of the ball. And Spoelstra was determined that we weren't going to score 60 points in the point tonight so he packed the paint with his zone and dared us to drive and kick and beat us from the perimeter. In response we committed turnovers trying to drive against the zone and shot 35% from 3, which was only because Tatum got into his groove in the 2nd half.

Herro had a career game too, 37 points you have to take your hat off to the kid. He shot 14-21 or 66% overall and 5-10 or 50% from 3, in comparison the rest  of the Heat shot 25-70 or 35% overall and 5-27 or 18%.  The Celtics actually shot better than the Heat, we were 47% overall and 35% from 3.

Turnovers and Herro killed us.

EDIT: I will say that the Celtics coming out sluggish in the first quarter is on Brad, it's his job to prepare the team. Some of the dodgy substitution patterns in the first half are also under his mandate. And as coach he ultimately has command responsibility, so if Danny and Wyc decide that the Celtics need a change or have not met expectations then I expect his head will roll before any of the players that committed turnovers or missed shots. They may have slightly different expectations than we do right after losses though  :angel:
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #218 on: September 23, 2020, 11:34:48 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?

Instill some offensive discipline for starters. But hard to do that when you're a complete pushover softy. They simply don't respect him.

Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #219 on: September 23, 2020, 11:35:18 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?

no - call a timeout - show them the fundamentals to running an offense - have motion on your plays - come get handoffs etc when you see that you cannot rajon rondo laser pass through 5 metre hands - adjust and make it work for what they want to do - not chug shots like its a playground
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #220 on: September 23, 2020, 11:36:37 PM »

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We have to cut down the turnovers and adapt to Spoelstra's adjustments better. 19 turnovers to 8 we won't win if we don't take care of the ball. And Spoelstra was determined that we weren't going to score 60 points in the point tonight so he packed the paint with his zone and dared us to drive and kick and beat us from the perimeter. In response we committed turnovers trying to drive against the zone and shot 35% from 3, which was only because Tatum got into his groove in the 2nd half.

Herro had a career game too, 37 points you have to take your hat off to the kid. He shot 14-21 or 66% overall and 5-10 or 50% from 3, in comparison the rest  of the Heat shot 25-70 or 35% overall and 5-27 or 18%.  The Celtics actually shot better than the Heat, we were 47% overall and 35% from 3.

Turnovers and Herro killed us.

yep  - free throws too 17-21 us - 24-27 them
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #221 on: September 23, 2020, 11:37:35 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?

Instill some offensive discipline for starters. But hard to do that when you're a complete pushover softy. They simply don't respect him.
Lol. Guess you'd love us hiring Jim Boylen then?
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #222 on: September 23, 2020, 11:40:43 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?

no - call a timeout - show them the fundamentals to running an offense - have motion on your plays - come get handoffs etc when you see that you cannot rajon rondo laser pass through 5 metre hands - adjust and make it work for what they want to do - not chug shots like its a playground

This. The people defending Brad with 'what do you want him to do' or 'he is not responsible for turnovers or three [point bricks' should tell us exactly what Brad is responsible for. What can fans hold him accountable for? Why do team need coaches if they are not resonsible for the team's lack of preparation.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #223 on: September 23, 2020, 11:41:58 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?

no - call a timeout - show them the fundamentals to running an offense - have motion on your plays - come get handoffs etc when you see that you cannot rajon rondo laser pass through 5 metre hands - adjust and make it work for what they want to do - not chug shots like its a playground

This. The people defeindg Brad with 'what do you want him to do' or 'he is not responsible for turnovers or three [point bricks' should tell us exactly what Brad is responsible for. What can fans hold him accountable for? Why do team need coaches if they are not resonsible for the team's lack of preparation.
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Re: Should Brad Stevens be fired?
« Reply #224 on: September 23, 2020, 11:43:14 PM »

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Lol.  Brad’s fault Tatum took a half off, Smart showed the offensive IQ of a rock, Tyler Herro played like Steph Curry, and the team had 18 turnovers.

Brad needs to shore up his coaching and his coaching bench.

his team having 18+ turnovers is his fault yes - because he lets them do what they want- thats his mantra.

What should he do?  Play Semi more?

Instill some offensive discipline for starters. But hard to do that when you're a complete pushover softy. They simply don't respect him.
Lol. Guess you'd love us hiring Jim Boylen then?

Eh, anything and everything is looking good right now after Brad being significantly outcoached the past two series. His deficiencies - particularly his soft nature and demeanor - are in full display this postseason, and I've had my fill. Just don't think you can coach grown men/professionals with that soft of a nature and demeanor, as it bleeds into everything he does and leaks into the team's identity.