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Re: Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
« Reply #90 on: September 04, 2021, 05:51:15 PM »

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Anyone mention the 07-08 Miami Heat?
Shaq
D Wade
Penny Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Jason Williams
Shawn Marion
Ricky Davis
Udonis Haslem

That's some amazing playmakers, passing,  and defense.  Very switchable and versatile.

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« Reply #91 on: September 04, 2021, 06:43:24 PM »

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Anyone mention the 07-08 Miami Heat?
Shaq
D Wade
Penny Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Jason Williams
Shawn Marion
Ricky Davis
Udonis Haslem

That's some amazing playmakers, passing,  and defense.  Very switchable and versatile.

That's hilarious!

Re: Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
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Anyone mention the 07-08 Miami Heat?
Shaq
D Wade
Penny Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Jason Williams
Shawn Marion
Ricky Davis
Udonis Haslem

That's some amazing playmakers, passing,  and defense.  Very switchable and versatile.
I find the mentions of Ricky Davis and Udonis Haslem quite funny
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2021, 10:11:23 PM »

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One of the Spurs had a past his prime Big Dog on it too didn’t it?
Yup

Re: Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2021, 11:23:41 AM »

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So in summary I think these are probably the best teams

63 Celtics - Cousy, S. Jones, Hondo, Heinsohn, Bill, Lovellette, Sanders, Ramsey, KC Jones
71 Lakers - West, Goodrich, Baylor, Hairston, Wilt, McMillian
85 Lakers - Magic, Cooper, Worthy, McAdoo, Kareem, Scott, Rambis, Wilkes
86 Celtics - DJ, Ainge, Bird, McHale, Walton, Parish
86 Sixers - Cheeks, Toney, Dr. J, Barkley, Moses, McAdoo, B. Jones
97 Bulls - Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Parish, Kukoc, Kerr, Longley
09 Suns - Nash, Dragic, Hill, Amar'e, Shaq, Richardson, Barbosa, Barnes, R. Lopez, Dudley (or prior year with Marion instead of Dragic/Lopez)
11 Celtics - Rondo, Allen, Pierce, KG, Shaq, JO, West, J. Green, Big Baby, Krstic
11 Heat - Bibby, Wade, James, Bosh, Big Z, Stackhouse, Howard, Magloire, Miller, Chalmers, Haslem
12 Thunder - Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, Perkins, R. Jackson, Sefolosha, Mohammad, Fisher
13 Spurs - Parker, Manu, Kawhi, Diaw, TD, Jackson, Green, Milles, Baynes (TMac didn't play in the regular season, so I had a hard time counting him, though he did play in 6 post season games)
20 Lakers - Rondo, Bradley, James, Davis, Howard, Green, McGee, Smith, Morris, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso
21 Nets - Irving, Harden, Durant, Griffin, Jordan, Harris, J. Green, M. James, Claxton (and maybe Dinwiddie and/or Aldridge)
20 Lakers over the 22 Lakers and the 18 Cavs?
18 Cavs without question.  You are right, I should have done 22 Lakers.  I keep forgetting they signed Carmelo, though can you imagine them trying to make that work with Russ, Melo, LBJ, Davis even Gasol and Dwight got their touches.  It would be an interesting thought experiment to make that work.  Still the talent is there.
Yeah, they would probably need an additional basketball or two.
Now that they've signed Rondo and with Jordan coming (assuming they keep Gasol), I think the 22 Lakers could contend for the all time best team despite being awful at SG (though can you imagine the match-up nightmare that a starting backcourt of Rondo and Westbrook would cause for opposing teams).

PG - Westbrook, Rondo, Nunn
SG - Monk, Bazemore, THT, Ellington
SF - James, Anthony, Ariza
PF - Davis
C - Howard, Gasol, Jordan


Big Dog Robinson was on the 05 Spurs team, but that one didn't have Robinson, so that is not a good exchange.  The best Spurs team is probably 03 (TD, Parker, Manu, DRob, S. Smith, SJax, Bowen, Willis, Kerr, Ferry, M. Rose, S. Claxton) or 13 (TD, Parker, Manu, Kawhi, McGrady, Diaw, Splitter, Baynes, P. Mills, Bonner, Neal).  So that really comes down to would you rather have Robinson, Smith, Jackson, Willis or Kawhi, McGrady, Diaw, Baynes.  I think you could make arguments for either, though I like the balance better of the 03 team, especially when needing to match-up with teams stacked at center.
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Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2021, 01:28:55 PM »

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So in summary I think these are probably the best teams

63 Celtics - Cousy, S. Jones, Hondo, Heinsohn, Bill, Lovellette, Sanders, Ramsey, KC Jones
71 Lakers - West, Goodrich, Baylor, Hairston, Wilt, McMillian
85 Lakers - Magic, Cooper, Worthy, McAdoo, Kareem, Scott, Rambis, Wilkes
86 Celtics - DJ, Ainge, Bird, McHale, Walton, Parish
86 Sixers - Cheeks, Toney, Dr. J, Barkley, Moses, McAdoo, B. Jones
97 Bulls - Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Parish, Kukoc, Kerr, Longley
09 Suns - Nash, Dragic, Hill, Amar'e, Shaq, Richardson, Barbosa, Barnes, R. Lopez, Dudley (or prior year with Marion instead of Dragic/Lopez)
11 Celtics - Rondo, Allen, Pierce, KG, Shaq, JO, West, J. Green, Big Baby, Krstic
11 Heat - Bibby, Wade, James, Bosh, Big Z, Stackhouse, Howard, Magloire, Miller, Chalmers, Haslem
12 Thunder - Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, Perkins, R. Jackson, Sefolosha, Mohammad, Fisher
13 Spurs - Parker, Manu, Kawhi, Diaw, TD, Jackson, Green, Milles, Baynes (TMac didn't play in the regular season, so I had a hard time counting him, though he did play in 6 post season games)
20 Lakers - Rondo, Bradley, James, Davis, Howard, Green, McGee, Smith, Morris, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso
21 Nets - Irving, Harden, Durant, Griffin, Jordan, Harris, J. Green, M. James, Claxton (and maybe Dinwiddie and/or Aldridge)
No love for the '71 Bucks? They had Kareem, Oscar, Dandridge, McGlocklin, Boozer and Allen.
Jaylen Brown for All-NBA

Re: Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2021, 01:45:09 PM »

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Anyone mention the 07-08 Miami Heat?
Shaq
D Wade
Penny Hardaway
Alonzo Mourning
Jason Williams
Shawn Marion
Ricky Davis
Udonis Haslem

That's some amazing playmakers, passing,  and defense.  Very switchable and versatile.
I find the mentions of Ricky Davis and Udonis Haslem quite funny

I like to go at least 8 deep in these types of scenarios.  Granted those two aren't great,  but Haslem was a very effective role player in his prime and Davis could get you buckets.  Obviously the top 6 are what would make this a great team though.

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« Reply #97 on: September 05, 2021, 02:38:45 PM »

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So in summary I think these are probably the best teams

63 Celtics - Cousy, S. Jones, Hondo, Heinsohn, Bill, Lovellette, Sanders, Ramsey, KC Jones
71 Lakers - West, Goodrich, Baylor, Hairston, Wilt, McMillian
85 Lakers - Magic, Cooper, Worthy, McAdoo, Kareem, Scott, Rambis, Wilkes
86 Celtics - DJ, Ainge, Bird, McHale, Walton, Parish
86 Sixers - Cheeks, Toney, Dr. J, Barkley, Moses, McAdoo, B. Jones
97 Bulls - Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Parish, Kukoc, Kerr, Longley
09 Suns - Nash, Dragic, Hill, Amar'e, Shaq, Richardson, Barbosa, Barnes, R. Lopez, Dudley (or prior year with Marion instead of Dragic/Lopez)
11 Celtics - Rondo, Allen, Pierce, KG, Shaq, JO, West, J. Green, Big Baby, Krstic
11 Heat - Bibby, Wade, James, Bosh, Big Z, Stackhouse, Howard, Magloire, Miller, Chalmers, Haslem
12 Thunder - Westbrook, Harden, Durant, Ibaka, Perkins, R. Jackson, Sefolosha, Mohammad, Fisher
13 Spurs - Parker, Manu, Kawhi, Diaw, TD, Jackson, Green, Milles, Baynes (TMac didn't play in the regular season, so I had a hard time counting him, though he did play in 6 post season games)
20 Lakers - Rondo, Bradley, James, Davis, Howard, Green, McGee, Smith, Morris, KCP, Kuzma, Caruso
21 Nets - Irving, Harden, Durant, Griffin, Jordan, Harris, J. Green, M. James, Claxton (and maybe Dinwiddie and/or Aldridge)
No love for the '71 Bucks? They had Kareem, Oscar, Dandridge, McGlocklin, Boozer and Allen.
For as good as Kareem and Oscar are the rest of that team just doesn't measure up (and I know Dandridge was a great player, but just not the same level as these other teams). 
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip