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Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
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This is one of those "pass the time" hypothetical questions:  Which team, if every player on the roster was in their prime, would have been the greatest?

For instance, if you said the 2011 Celtics, you'd get Prime Shaq, Prime KG, Prime Pierce, Prime Ray, Prime Rondo, etc., etc.  (but not Prime Jeff Green, because nobody would trade Prime Perk for that bum)



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Re: Best Collections Of Talent Ever?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2021, 07:28:04 PM »

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I dunno - but it's gotta be one of Shaq's teams, right?

.edit: The one with Payton and Malone?

I'm just thinking; it's gotta be some team with all-time greats, that then got some old vets?
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The 86 Celtics.
Parish, a hall of famer, is a bench warmer.
Walton won a chip almost by himself in Portland.

I guess prime Kareem on the Lakers would be an argument.

I would take the 86 team against most "All-Star" teams. Walton in his prime, with those guys, watch out.
Back then most guys played close to 40 mins. So 7 man rotation.

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Going modern…

Cousins / Bogut
Durant / Draymond
Iguodala
Klay
Steph / Livingston

Howard
Davis
Carmelo
Lebron
Westbrook

Aldridge
Griffin
Durant
Harden
Kyrie


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I hate them, but:

Peak Kyrie
Peak Harden
Peak Durant
Peak Griffin
Peak DeAndre Jordan

That’s two of the best scorers of all time (Durant/Harden), two other elite scorers (Irving and Griffin), and a 1st team All-NBA and All-NBA defense center.

And I forgot they had Aldridge for a day.

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I dunno - but it's gotta be one of Shaq's teams, right?

The one with Payton and Malone?

I'm just thinking; it's gotta be some team with all-time greats, that then got some old vets?

Yes that would be my vote too, Lakers love a bunch of famous past their prime stars.

2004 Lakers

O’Neal
Malone
Grant (Horace)
Bryant
Payton

This team in their prime would be stacked.

Other candidates IMO:

1985 Lakers

Abdul-Jabbar
McAdoo
Worthy
Cooper
Johnson

2013 Lakers

Howard
Gasol
Artest
Bryant
Nash
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2017-18 Cavs are often forgotten about, but that team was stacked in terms of all time talent. Peak LeBron, peak Dwyane Wade, peak Kevin Love, peak IT, peak Derrick Rose, and then role players like peak Korver, peak Clarkson, peak JR Smith, peak Jeff Green, peak Perk, peak Channing Frye, peak Larry Nance.

Small-ball rotation:
IT / Calderon / Hill
Rose / Korver / Clarkson
Wade / JR / Crowder
LeBron / Green / Nance
Love / Perk / Frye

Unguardable.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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The 2011 Celtics also had JO, thus:

Peak PP,KG,Ray Allen, Shaq, Jermaine O’Neal, Rondo.

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2016 Spurs:

Duncan / Boris Diaw
Aldridge / David West
Kawhi / Danny Green
Ginobili / Kevin Martin
Parker / Andre Miller

Plus, they had Boban *and* Matt Bonner. 


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Dave Cowens
Cedric Maxwell
Larry Bird
Pete Maravich
Tiny Archibald

Not the best, but they'd sure be fun to root for.


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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2021, 10:26:49 PM »

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00-01 Portland would be interesting with lots of passing and can you imagine a young Sabonis and Kemp on the same team with Sheed and Dale Davis for toughness and Pippen, Detlef, and Bonzi at the 3.  Just a nightmare with athleticism for most teams to handle.

PG - Stoudamire, Strickland, Anthony
SG - S. Smith, Augmon
SF - Pippen, Schrempf, Wells
PF - Kemp, R. Wallace, Harvey
C - Sabonis, D. Davis, Perdue


The 06-07 Heat though I think could compete with the best of them given not many could handle Shaq let alone Shaq and Mourning.

PG - Payton, J. Williams
SG - Wade, E. Jones
SF - Posey, Kapono, Wright
PF - Walker, Haslem
C - Shaq, Mourning

SF is weaker, but in modern ball Eddie Jones would be playing SF and I think he'd do alright there.

The next year Heat is interesting because of all the midseason trades they had, but collectively at some point that season they had Shaq, Mourning, Wade, Marion, Penny Hardaway, Ricky Davis, Williams, Haslem, Blount. 

The 11 Heat is also interesting.  Obviously they had Lebron, Wade, and Bosh, and the main core at that time in Haslem, Chalmers, Mike Miller, Eddie House, James Jones, but the real key would be getting prime Mike Bibby, Jerry Stackhouse, Juwan Howard, Jamaal Magloire, Big Z, and Erick Dampier.  They would have had the size those Heat teams always lacked and a true playmaker at PG in Bibby and an absolutely deadly scorer off the bench in Stackhouse.


Going back further, how good would the Lakers have been with Wilt, West, and Elgin all in their prime.  I mean we saw them win 69 games and the title with old Wilt and West (and with Baylor walking away during the season), but that trio would have been basically unstoppable in their prime if they figured out how to make it work.
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Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2021, 11:15:49 PM »

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2016 Spurs:

Duncan / Boris Diaw
Aldridge / David West
Kawhi / Danny Green
Ginobili / Kevin Martin
Parker / Andre Miller

Plus, they had Boban *and* Matt Bonner.

!!! I had this one cross my mind too!

There's a reason they (Spurs) won as much as they did.

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2012/13 Clippers? Chris Paul, Grant Hill, Chauncey Billups, Blake Griffin, DeAndre Jordan, Eric Bledsoe, Caron Butler, Jamaal Crawford, Lamar Odom and Matt Barnes?

2013/14 Brooklyn? Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Deron Williams, Joe Johnson, Brook Lopez, Andrei Kirilenko, Jason Terry, Marcus Thornton, Reggie Evans?
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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1986 76ers

Moses Malone (3 x MVP)
Bob McAdoo (MVP)
Julius Irving (4 x MVP) 1 NBA, 3 ABA
Charles Barkley (MVP)
Maurice Cheeks

Bobby Jones
Andrew Toney

Can you imagine this team playing together in their primes!
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1986 76ers

Moses Malone (3 x MVP)
Bob McAdoo (MVP)
Julius Irving (4 x MVP) 1 NBA, 3 ABA
Charles Barkley (MVP)
Maurice Cheeks

Bobby Jones
Andrew Toney

Can you imagine this team playing together in their primes!

and The 86 Celtics were way better....The Lakers were sooooo lucky to be in the West back then, C's had to go through the 76ers,Bulls,Hawks,Pistons,Bucks....the Lakers had Nobody.
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