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Re: Mac Jones Better than Brady (In College)
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2021, 10:28:02 PM »

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"I think he could have been one of the greatest catchers ever," says Malone, who holds the remarkable distinction of drafting Brady five years before Bill Belichick. "I know that's quite a statement, but the projections were based on the fact we had a left-hand-hitting catcher, with arm strength and who was athletic. ... But his first love was football."

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"He was a very athletic young man. A big kid who had a great face, a major league face. Yes, we looked at the face," Malone says. "He had an athletic, strong body, but there was room for development. As a scout, one of the first things you look at is just the body—the type of body, the athleticism and what kind of face does he have. I know that sounds a little strange."

Brady is a much better athlete than he is given credit for.  He isn't Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, but he isn't a bum either.  You don't end up with a full ride scholarship offer to Michigan (especially then) nor get drafted by a MLB team without having extreme skill and ability. 
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Re: Mac Jones Better than Brady (In College)
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2021, 11:15:45 PM »

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"I think he could have been one of the greatest catchers ever," says Malone, who holds the remarkable distinction of drafting Brady five years before Bill Belichick. "I know that's quite a statement, but the projections were based on the fact we had a left-hand-hitting catcher, with arm strength and who was athletic. ... But his first love was football."

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"He was a very athletic young man. A big kid who had a great face, a major league face. Yes, we looked at the face," Malone says. "He had an athletic, strong body, but there was room for development. As a scout, one of the first things you look at is just the body—the type of body, the athleticism and what kind of face does he have. I know that sounds a little strange."

Brady is a much better athlete than he is given credit for.  He isn't Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, but he isn't a bum either.  You don't end up with a full ride scholarship offer to Michigan (especially then) nor get drafted by a MLB team without having extreme skill and ability.


 Hes just like one of my best friends growing up. Best QB, PG in basketball,  and pitcher and SS in baseball.

unreal hand eye Coordination. Terrible athlete.  Slow, can't jump. But like Tom. Great size.

Re: Mac Jones Better than Brady (In College)
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2021, 03:10:55 PM »

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"I think he could have been one of the greatest catchers ever," says Malone, who holds the remarkable distinction of drafting Brady five years before Bill Belichick. "I know that's quite a statement, but the projections were based on the fact we had a left-hand-hitting catcher, with arm strength and who was athletic. ... But his first love was football."

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"He was a very athletic young man. A big kid who had a great face, a major league face. Yes, we looked at the face," Malone says. "He had an athletic, strong body, but there was room for development. As a scout, one of the first things you look at is just the body—the type of body, the athleticism and what kind of face does he have. I know that sounds a little strange."

Brady is a much better athlete than he is given credit for.  He isn't Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, but he isn't a bum either.  You don't end up with a full ride scholarship offer to Michigan (especially then) nor get drafted by a MLB team without having extreme skill and ability.

What is a "great face", a "major league face"?  I get the body.  I don't get the face.


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"I think he could have been one of the greatest catchers ever," says Malone, who holds the remarkable distinction of drafting Brady five years before Bill Belichick. "I know that's quite a statement, but the projections were based on the fact we had a left-hand-hitting catcher, with arm strength and who was athletic. ... But his first love was football."

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"He was a very athletic young man. A big kid who had a great face, a major league face. Yes, we looked at the face," Malone says. "He had an athletic, strong body, but there was room for development. As a scout, one of the first things you look at is just the body—the type of body, the athleticism and what kind of face does he have. I know that sounds a little strange."

Brady is a much better athlete than he is given credit for.  He isn't Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, but he isn't a bum either.  You don't end up with a full ride scholarship offer to Michigan (especially then) nor get drafted by a MLB team without having extreme skill and ability.

What is a "great face", a "major league face"?  I get the body.  I don't get the face.


 That Face was made for Marketing. There are definitely some genetic indicat5you can pull from.the face..

 I love Mac Jones goofy demeanor.  Bama Teamates said they like him better than Tua. Whom was also very well liked in the locker room.

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"I think he could have been one of the greatest catchers ever," says Malone, who holds the remarkable distinction of drafting Brady five years before Bill Belichick. "I know that's quite a statement, but the projections were based on the fact we had a left-hand-hitting catcher, with arm strength and who was athletic. ... But his first love was football."

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"He was a very athletic young man. A big kid who had a great face, a major league face. Yes, we looked at the face," Malone says. "He had an athletic, strong body, but there was room for development. As a scout, one of the first things you look at is just the body—the type of body, the athleticism and what kind of face does he have. I know that sounds a little strange."

Brady is a much better athlete than he is given credit for.  He isn't Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, but he isn't a bum either.  You don't end up with a full ride scholarship offer to Michigan (especially then) nor get drafted by a MLB team without having extreme skill and ability.

What is a "great face", a "major league face"?  I get the body.  I don't get the face.
Is one's face really a point of consideration in baseball scouting..?
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"I think he could have been one of the greatest catchers ever," says Malone, who holds the remarkable distinction of drafting Brady five years before Bill Belichick. "I know that's quite a statement, but the projections were based on the fact we had a left-hand-hitting catcher, with arm strength and who was athletic. ... But his first love was football."

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"He was a very athletic young man. A big kid who had a great face, a major league face. Yes, we looked at the face," Malone says. "He had an athletic, strong body, but there was room for development. As a scout, one of the first things you look at is just the body—the type of body, the athleticism and what kind of face does he have. I know that sounds a little strange."

Brady is a much better athlete than he is given credit for.  He isn't Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes, but he isn't a bum either.  You don't end up with a full ride scholarship offer to Michigan (especially then) nor get drafted by a MLB team without having extreme skill and ability.

What is a "great face", a "major league face"?  I get the body.  I don't get the face.
Is one's face really a point of consideration in baseball scouting..?
Maybe his face was so beautiful scouts thought it would keep pitchers from throwing inside to him, fearing to hit and ruin such a perfect face. If you can't pitch inside to a batter, advantage batter. 😁

Re: Mac Jones Better than Brady (In College)
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2021, 06:48:45 PM »

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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.


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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it
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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it

They need to do one of those sports physics segments, to explain how a dude with man boobs and a gut can physically throw like he does.  Where’s the arm strength come from?


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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it

They need to do one of those sports physics segments, to explain how a dude with man boobs and a gut can physically throw like he does.  Where’s the arm strength come from?
I'd for sure watch.

We also drafted another hefty guy at RB. He looks a lot like Eddie Lacy, in a good and bad way simultaneously...
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Re: Mac Jones Better than Brady (In College)
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2021, 07:59:27 AM »

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Want a comp, and one that I haven't herad, how about Joe Burrow. 

Burrow: 6'3.5", 221lbs and Jones: 6'3", 217lbs.

Both careers started off in an unceremoniously way.  Burrow went to Ohio state as a 4 star recruit and redshirted his freshman year, played 5 games in 2016, 5 games in 2017, 13 games in 2018, and 15 games in 2019.  His best year, obviously was 2019; 76.3%, 5671yds, 60TD, and 6INT.  Jones went to Bama as a 3 star recruit and played 6  games in 2018, 11  in 2019, 13 in 2020.  His best year was 2020; 77.4%, 4500yds, 41TD, 4INT.

My thought is, both of these guys are late bloomers in college.  Both are pocket type passers and neither is fleet a foot: Burrow 40 was 4.9, Jones was 4.83.

Interesting note, Jones originally committed to Kentucky, but flipped for the chance to compete ad Bama.

Yep, I'm trying to talk myself into liking this pick.  I was a Fields guy all the way and he was just so close....

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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it

They need to do one of those sports physics segments, to explain how a dude with man boobs and a gut can physically throw like he does.  Where’s the arm strength come from?

Arm strength doesn’t matter as much as you’d think. What matters is torque and how fast you can whip your arm. Look at some of the pitchers over the years that were completely out of shape, but could still throw 90+MPH.

With that said, Mac does need to get into better shape. That photo of him next to Brady is unacceptable.
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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it

They need to do one of those sports physics segments, to explain how a dude with man boobs and a gut can physically throw like he does.  Where’s the arm strength come from?

Arm strength doesn’t matter as much as you’d think. What matters is torque and how fast you can whip your arm. Look at some of the pitchers over the years that were completely out of shape, but could still throw 90+MPH.

With that said, Mac does need to get into better shape. That photo of him next to Brady is unacceptable.

Case and point, Bartolo Colon
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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it

They need to do one of those sports physics segments, to explain how a dude with man boobs and a gut can physically throw like he does.  Where’s the arm strength come from?

Arm strength doesn’t matter as much as you’d think. What matters is torque and how fast you can whip your arm. Look at some of the pitchers over the years that were completely out of shape, but could still throw 90+MPH.

With that said, Mac does need to get into better shape. That photo of him next to Brady is unacceptable.
Sure, but arm strength definitely caps your potential as an NFL quarterback. Gardner Minshew has many good attributes for a quarterback, yet his arm simply isn't strong enough, so his ceiling is only a backup.
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Re: Mac Jones Better than Brady (In College)
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Brady was undefined.  Mac Jones is next level.
Yet somehow Mac can run faster and jump higher. Love it

They need to do one of those sports physics segments, to explain how a dude with man boobs and a gut can physically throw like he does.  Where’s the arm strength come from?

Arm strength doesn’t matter as much as you’d think. What matters is torque and how fast you can whip your arm. Look at some of the pitchers over the years that were completely out of shape, but could still throw 90+MPH.

With that said, Mac does need to get into better shape. That photo of him next to Brady is unacceptable.
Sure, but arm strength definitely caps your potential as an NFL quarterback. Gardner Minshew has many good attributes for a quarterback, yet his arm simply isn't strong enough, so his ceiling is only a backup.

I’m not worried about his arm Strength at all...

Throwing in front of NFL head coaches, including Bill Belichick (Patriots), Sean Payton (Saints) and Kyle Shanahan (49ers), Jones did a variety of things during his workout, including paying homage to both his late coach at The Bolles School and Navy with a triple-option play that ended with Harris throwing a touchdown pass back to the Crimson Tide quarterback.

Other than having fun, however, he wanted to show he can make every throw. “In real football, you just want to complete the ball,” Jones said. “At the end of the day, hopefully, I did show my arm strength. I can throw it 65 or however long they need me to throw it, but in a real game, it’s all about being a passer and not a thrower. I just wanted to show off. I mean, I already did one pro day, and it was fun. So come out here and sling it deep a little bit and let those guys catch some balls. It was good.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/alabama/Article/2021-NFL-Draft-Alabama-Football-QB-Mac-Jones-wanted-to-show-his-arm-strength-in-second-pro-day-workout-163357876/Amp/

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