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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #345 on: September 13, 2021, 01:41:44 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.

Did you see Brady's stats in his first couple of years? Bill managed that guy big time.
Sure, but that team had one of the best defenses in the sport.  These Patriots do not.
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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #346 on: September 13, 2021, 01:45:44 PM »

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FWIW,  https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1437454039130591240

Pats have won games in the past with a spread like this so its not that unusual for them.  For a rookie's first game and against that D, you can't help but feel optimistic.


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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #347 on: September 13, 2021, 04:37:19 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Glad you don't run the Patriots because your idea of opening up the whole playbook, to a starting rookie, in their first game ever, and risk destroying his confidence and perhaps his health due to trying to do too much, might be about the absolute worst take you have ever made on this board.

The history of not properly managing rookie QBs and stunting both their long and short term development is a very, very, very long one. On the other hand, Belichick managed the first few years of the greatest QB in history before letting him go all out....and that seemed to workout fine.

I will trust Bill here, not your poor opinion.

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« Reply #348 on: September 13, 2021, 04:44:52 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Are you saying Jacksonville getting absolutely torched by the Houston Texans, of all teams, is somehow preferable to NE losing by one point (due to turnovers and ill-disciplined play) to Miami, a much better team than the Texans? Because they let their rookie QB throw a lot?

Their failure to establish the run game is part of the reason why the game completely escaped them...
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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #349 on: September 13, 2021, 08:50:12 PM »

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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #350 on: September 13, 2021, 09:18:55 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Glad you don't run the Patriots because your idea of opening up the whole playbook, to a starting rookie, in their first game ever, and risk destroying his confidence and perhaps his health due to trying to do too much, might be about the absolute worst take you have ever made on this board.

The history of not properly managing rookie QBs and stunting both their long and short term development is a very, very, very long one. On the other hand, Belichick managed the first few years of the greatest QB in history before letting him go all out....and that seemed to workout fine.

I will trust Bill here, not your poor opinion.
There are countless examples of QB's being managed or QB's being let loose that both succeed and fail.  There is no right answer.  I was more objecting to the notion that Mac played well because I have no idea.  He barely threw the ball more than 10 yards.  His throws all game long were short safe throws.  Those tell you basically nothing about the level of QB play.
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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #351 on: September 13, 2021, 09:21:25 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Are you saying Jacksonville getting absolutely torched by the Houston Texans, of all teams, is somehow preferable to NE losing by one point (due to turnovers and ill-disciplined play) to Miami, a much better team than the Texans? Because they let their rookie QB throw a lot?

Their failure to establish the run game is part of the reason why the game completely escaped them...
I'm saying long term I think it is better to let your young QB have the full play book.  Running should always be the first option, especially with a young QB, but not letting your QB throw the ball more than 10 yards is problematic and that is why the Patriots lost.  You should never lose a game when you dominate the stat sheet like the Patriots did.  The conservative play calling is why they lost.  They should have and needed to win that game.
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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #352 on: September 13, 2021, 09:42:09 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Are you saying Jacksonville getting absolutely torched by the Houston Texans, of all teams, is somehow preferable to NE losing by one point (due to turnovers and ill-disciplined play) to Miami, a much better team than the Texans? Because they let their rookie QB throw a lot?

Their failure to establish the run game is part of the reason why the game completely escaped them...
I'm saying long term I think it is better to let your young QB have the full play book.  Running should always be the first option, especially with a young QB, but not letting your QB throw the ball more than 10 yards is problematic and that is why the Patriots lost.  You should never lose a game when you dominate the stat sheet like the Patriots did.  The conservative play calling is why they lost.  They should have and needed to win that game.

He had several passes that were more than 10 yards. Macs not going to be airing it out like Mahomes or Josh Allen and he doesn’t need to in order to win games. The team just isn’t constructed that way. Hopefully the line does a better job next game and actually gives Mac and the receivers time to make plays. Pats didn’t lose the game because of Mac throwing short passes, they lost it because of the turnovers.
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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #353 on: September 13, 2021, 10:14:58 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Are you saying Jacksonville getting absolutely torched by the Houston Texans, of all teams, is somehow preferable to NE losing by one point (due to turnovers and ill-disciplined play) to Miami, a much better team than the Texans? Because they let their rookie QB throw a lot?

Their failure to establish the run game is part of the reason why the game completely escaped them...
I'm saying long term I think it is better to let your young QB have the full play book.  Running should always be the first option, especially with a young QB, but not letting your QB throw the ball more than 10 yards is problematic and that is why the Patriots lost.  You should never lose a game when you dominate the stat sheet like the Patriots did.  The conservative play calling is why they lost.  They should have and needed to win that game.

He had several passes that were more than 10 yards. Macs not going to be airing it out like Mahomes or Josh Allen and he doesn’t need to in order to win games. The team just isn’t constructed that way. Hopefully the line does a better job next game and actually gives Mac and the receivers time to make plays. Pats didn’t lose the game because of Mac throwing short passes, they lost it because of the turnovers.
The first fumble didn't do anything (Miami went 3 and out and punted after it).  The 2nd one, was obviously bad, but it was also directly after the Dolphins threw an INT to set up New England.  The New England was slightly worse, but those two were near washes on the actual outcome. 

Getting into the red zone 3 times and only getting 9 points because you play super conservative is a much larger factor in why they lost the game.  The dink and dunks don't work on a compressed field like that.  They needed the threat of a more open field to move the ball more effectively.
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Re: NFL 2021 Season
« Reply #354 on: September 13, 2021, 10:43:17 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Glad you don't run the Patriots because your idea of opening up the whole playbook, to a starting rookie, in their first game ever, and risk destroying his confidence and perhaps his health due to trying to do too much, might be about the absolute worst take you have ever made on this board.

The history of not properly managing rookie QBs and stunting both their long and short term development is a very, very, very long one. On the other hand, Belichick managed the first few years of the greatest QB in history before letting him go all out....and that seemed to workout fine.

I will trust Bill here, not your poor opinion.
There are countless examples of QB's being managed or QB's being let loose that both succeed and fail.  There is no right answer.  I was more objecting to the notion that Mac played well because I have no idea.  He barely threw the ball more than 10 yards.  His throws all game long were short safe throws.  Those tell you basically nothing about the level of QB play.
Did you watch the game? I mean actually watch it rather than skim over the box score, read a quick article and come out with an opinion?

Mac threw it down field for at least 25% of his attempts. He completed 7 passes over 10 yards and 4 over 20. And when he threw it most of those throws were perfect. That 26 yarder to White was a thing of beauty that a lot of veterans would have trouble throwing.

And most of his short passes were fast read check downs because he was under pressure and his medium and long options were covered. The short check down was the 100% proper thing to do rather than force something longer that could lead to an INT.

Given Mac's experience, he played with intelligence and maturity and put his team in the best position to win.

Open the playbook 100% for a rookie.
Let the 1st time playing in the NFL QB go all out.
Don't throw a lot of short intelligent passes.
Don't properly manage a rookie QB.

Shaking my head at that type of horrible football coaching. Clearly, Belichick is right here and you, once again, dead wrong. He put Jones in the best position to win the game. Jones wasn't why the Pats lost. Mac was why, except for a fumble in the end zone late, they should have won

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« Reply #356 on: September 13, 2021, 11:04:42 PM »

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Glad you don't run the Patriots because your idea of opening up the whole playbook, to a starting rookie, in their first game ever, and risk destroying his confidence and perhaps his health due to trying to do too much, might be about the absolute worst take you have ever made on this board.

The history of not properly managing rookie QBs and stunting both their long and short term development is a very, very, very long one. On the other hand, Belichick managed the first few years of the greatest QB in history before letting him go all out....and that seemed to workout fine.

I will trust Bill here, not your poor opinion.
There are countless examples of QB's being managed or QB's being let loose that both succeed and fail.  There is no right answer.  I was more objecting to the notion that Mac played well because I have no idea.  He barely threw the ball more than 10 yards.  His throws all game long were short safe throws.  Those tell you basically nothing about the level of QB play.
Did you watch the game? I mean actually watch it rather than skim over the box score, read a quick article and come out with an opinion?

Mac threw it down field for at least 25% of his attempts. He completed 7 passes over 10 yards and 4 over 20. And when he threw it most of those throws were perfect. That 26 yarder to White was a thing of beauty that a lot of veterans would have trouble throwing.

And most of his short passes were fast read check downs because he was under pressure and his medium and long options were covered. The short check down was the 100% proper thing to do rather than force something longer that could lead to an INT.

Given Mac's experience, he played with intelligence and maturity and put his team in the best position to win.

Open the playbook 100% for a rookie.
Let the 1st time playing in the NFL QB go all out.
Don't throw a lot of short intelligent passes.
Don't properly manage a rookie QB.

Shaking my head at that type of horrible football coaching. Clearly, Belichick is right here and you, once again, dead wrong. He put Jones in the best position to win the game. Jones wasn't why the Pats lost. Mac was why, except for a fumble in the end zone late, they should have won
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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Glad you don't run the Patriots because your idea of opening up the whole playbook, to a starting rookie, in their first game ever, and risk destroying his confidence and perhaps his health due to trying to do too much, might be about the absolute worst take you have ever made on this board.

The history of not properly managing rookie QBs and stunting both their long and short term development is a very, very, very long one. On the other hand, Belichick managed the first few years of the greatest QB in history before letting him go all out....and that seemed to workout fine.

I will trust Bill here, not your poor opinion.

Really coming in aggressive here Nick lol. I do agree with you thought. That game is over if we don’t have that fumble. Some of the penalties were also frustrating but not on Jones. Don’t know how anyone could watch that game and not feel decent about him.

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Mac Jones dinked and dunked his way to a high completion percentage, but it is also why the Patriots couldn't score in the red zone and only scored 16 points in a losing effort.  The Patriots aren't good enough to game manage their way to a good season.  If they are going to have any real success, they need to take the training wheels off and let Jones go.  Maybe Jones can't do that, but if he does, that is the only real way for New England to have any real meaningful success this season.

They did score in the red zone. Mac through a TD pass to Nelson Agholor. The reason they lost is because that RB’s couldn't hold on to the ball. I do think there will be more passing Plays in future games, though.. Mac looked great and he outperformed Tua. Also had a better game than Wilson or Lawrence.
The Patriots won the time of possession basically 37 to 23, outgained Miami basically 400 to 260, and had 24 first downs to 16.  They weren't as clean committing significantly more penalties and having the 2 turnovers to 1, but the difference in the game was Miami was 2 for 2 in the red zone and New England was 1 of 4 (for TD's).   They just didn't trust Jones.  I'd rather see a team let a QB go all out like Jacksonville did and deal with the growing pains of a young QB who needs that experience.  If they are going to keep the training wheels on Mac, they aren't going to have a very good year and will keep losing games that statistically they dominate.
Glad you don't run the Patriots because your idea of opening up the whole playbook, to a starting rookie, in their first game ever, and risk destroying his confidence and perhaps his health due to trying to do too much, might be about the absolute worst take you have ever made on this board.

The history of not properly managing rookie QBs and stunting both their long and short term development is a very, very, very long one. On the other hand, Belichick managed the first few years of the greatest QB in history before letting him go all out....and that seemed to workout fine.

I will trust Bill here, not your poor opinion.
There are countless examples of QB's being managed or QB's being let loose that both succeed and fail.  There is no right answer.  I was more objecting to the notion that Mac played well because I have no idea.  He barely threw the ball more than 10 yards.  His throws all game long were short safe throws.  Those tell you basically nothing about the level of QB play.
Did you watch the game? I mean actually watch it rather than skim over the box score, read a quick article and come out with an opinion?

Mac threw it down field for at least 25% of his attempts. He completed 7 passes over 10 yards and 4 over 20. And when he threw it most of those throws were perfect. That 26 yarder to White was a thing of beauty that a lot of veterans would have trouble throwing.

And most of his short passes were fast read check downs because he was under pressure and his medium and long options were covered. The short check down was the 100% proper thing to do rather than force something longer that could lead to an INT.

Given Mac's experience, he played with intelligence and maturity and put his team in the best position to win.

Open the playbook 100% for a rookie.
Let the 1st time playing in the NFL QB go all out.
Don't throw a lot of short intelligent passes.
Don't properly manage a rookie QB.

Shaking my head at that type of horrible football coaching. Clearly, Belichick is right here and you, once again, dead wrong. He put Jones in the best position to win the game. Jones wasn't why the Pats lost. Mac was why, except for a fumble in the end zone late, they should have won

Great stats here Nick. Tp