Ive been saying this and beatin this dead horse since the trade. Hated the trade then, hated the trade in the middle, still greatly hate the trade now. Perkins was our attitude, our chemistry, and a leader in our brotherhood. Loosing him was the Celtics biggest mistake of the last few years.
He's been injured and generally awful at 9 million a year since the trade. 2008 Perk is dead and buried, ever since he blew out that knee in 2010 he's been a shell of his former self. What makes you think that's any different had he stayed? our amazing medial staff
I know people get nostalgic, and JG certainly isn't a knock out for us, but lets ask OCK how they feel about their 9 million dollar a year center.
oh, you want to amnistiy him you say? he doesn't see the floor late in games in favor of collision?
I have no desire to get perk back unless they toss in a dolorian that takes him back to pre knee injury, or he gets bought out and comes cheap.
Jeff green has been more consistently injured and generally more awful and needs to be mentored as opposed to being a mentor. He deserves more than Jeff green. Id rather have him then Jeff green.
Haha yeah, its ironic that in your post you point out Perks injuries but what about the guy who missed and entire season for being injured? Does it say somewhere in Greens old contract that we get a dolorian to give us the 2009 and 2010 Jeff Green?
And Perkins might not be on the floor late in games for the Thunder... During 08 he wasnt in late games for us either. Doc loved using the Posey lineup that year (Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Posey, Garnett) late in games to stretch the floor and turn up the D. He also went to PJ late in games a few times for offense.
The Perk trade lost so much for the celtics, that we will never be able to get back.
This is where I don't understand your argument. I haven't, to my knowledge, ever disagreed with you that Jeff Green is currently a giant bust, so pointing out to me that he sucks doesn't actually do anything to disprove my point. I agree, though I still hold out a fools hope that he will at least become serviceable this year.
but I don't see how that relates to the fact that Perk has ALSO been awful since the trade.
essentially, the trade has been crap for both teams. we got JG, who currently is a huge disapointment. They got a guy who blew out a knee and isn't who they thought they were getting, PLUS it cost them James Harden.
my assertion is not that we "won" the trade, it is that statements like the one i bolded are not factually accurate or supportable. They are based on nostalgia
They rely on the assumption that had perk stayed here and signed the contract he wanted (a huge if, as the celtics were not going to offer him the clownshoes money OKC did.) then he would still be a tough rebounder, shot blocker, and overall defensive anchor.
That perk died in 2010 with his ACL. at the moment he is an average, at best, defensive center. he is clearly limited physically, and he shouldn't be this far removed from the ACL.
Would he be better than what we currently have? sure, what we have sucks. but I don't want him at his absurd contract, and to pretend we'd be getting the Perk from 2007-2010 that we all loved is inaccurate.
If he gets amnestied, as it has been rumored, then im on board for much lower money.