Your Quasi-Realistic Dream Trade Deadline

[seancally]

In: Horford, George Hill
Out: Teague, TT, Grant Williams, Green or Semi. Or, honestly, take your pick of our bench flotsam jetsam. Plus TPE.

Why OKC does it: They stink. This way they’ll stink more and offload Horford’s contract. Pick up some young rotation guys who could stay or go. TT has a good tradeable contract. Teague might get waived. OKC positions for a strong draft.

Why BOS does it: Horford fills a need today. His contract now is not the contract the Sixers signed him to. Today his contract is 3yrs/$70M ish. He’s a productive big who can pass, shoot and defend. He’s averaging 15/7/3.5 on 39% from 3... his career averages, basically. It’s a big contract but not a god-awful one. His last year is $14.5M guaranteed which means as soon as next season his deal becomes pretty tradeable. If Beal wants out, say, this summer, that’s a decent contract to match with - declines in size almost immediately and then it’s expiring. A Kemba/Smart/Brown/Tatum/Horford starting five with Theis, TL, Pritchard, George Hill, (hopefully) Langford and Nesmith off the bench is a contender in the East. And it’s a team with flexibility again in a year or two, with a good mix of tradeable contracts and young players to go with Tatum/Brown.

Thing is... I don’t think the big fish to pair with Tatum/Brown is really out there for us today. We could pull someone in with that TPE like Vucevic (whom I love).. maybe that gets us to the finals, but i have my doubts.

TP to Kevin O’Connor for talking up a Horford trade in a recent Simmons podcast.

you pointed all the reason why Horford is not a salary dump. OKC will demand a 1st rd pick or higher upside players like timelord and Nesmith

Quasi-realistic, I think the rules were.

[Uncle_Stingfinger]

Im starting to think they should stay put or dump guys.  Let Tatum and Brown finish this season learning what it takes to actually win games as the leaders while the front office reorganizes to get help. 

Does shedding salary makes sense with the cap rules?   I dont know.

[NKY fan]

Im starting to think they should stay put or dump guys.  Let Tatum and Brown finish this season learning what it takes to actually win games as the leaders while the front office reorganizes to get help. 

Does shedding salary makes sense with the cap rules?   I dont know.

It might make a tiny bit of sense to trade Kemba's contract for a contract that expires a year earlier but that means we are getting Blake Griffin or a similar washed up player.

[gouki88]

I’ll try and keep it quasi

Trade 1: https://tradenba.com/trades/55oqrlKuF

Boston trades: Kemba Walker, 2021 OKC 1st

Dallas trades: Tim Hardaway, Jalen Brunson, Maxi Kleber

Why for Boston: Get an assortment of role players who can shoot to surround the Jays with.

Why for Dallas: Get the third star next to Luka & KP, have 3&D players like Richardson around them.

at what point did we get OKC's 1st rounder?  sure, if we can trade picks we don't own, I'd get really creative too.  Boston only has their own first rounders going forward

Far out, that's the second time I've mistyped OKC's 2nd as OKC's 1st

[Moranis]

Just for fun

Boston - Morris, Beverley, Snell, Zubac, Dunn, Collins
Los Angeles - Walker, Huerter, Green, Edwards
Atlanta - Smart, Nesmith, G. Williams, Kabengele, Patterson, 2021 BOS 1st, 2022 LA 2nd, 2023 BOS 1st (lotto), 2024 LA 2nd, LA Cash (to cut patterson)

New 17 man lineup
PG - Beverley, Dunn, Pritchard, Teague, Waters
SG - Brown, Snell, Langford
SF - Tatum, Morris
PF - Collins, Theis, Ojeleye
C - Zubac, Thompson, R. Williams, Fall

[Roy H.]

I’ll try and keep it quasi

Trade 1: https://tradenba.com/trades/55oqrlKuF

Boston trades: Kemba Walker, 2021 OKC 1st

Dallas trades: Tim Hardaway, Jalen Brunson, Maxi Kleber

Why for Boston: Get an assortment of role players who can shoot to surround the Jays with.

Why for Dallas: Get the third star next to Luka & KP, have 3&D players like Richardson around them.

at what point did we get OKC's 1st rounder?  sure, if we can trade picks we don't own, I'd get really creative too.  Boston only has their own first rounders going forward

Far out, that's the second time I've mistyped OKC's 2nd as OKC's 1st

Also as a reminder, that pick is top 55 protected.  In other words, it’s a useless asset, because it will not convey. Same thing with Charlotte’s pick.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Collins and Horford. I don’t care how, but would like to see it happen without trading Kemba or Smart.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I’ll try and keep it quasi

Trade 1: https://tradenba.com/trades/55oqrlKuF

Boston trades: Kemba Walker, 2021 OKC 1st

Dallas trades: Tim Hardaway, Jalen Brunson, Maxi Kleber

Why for Boston: Get an assortment of role players who can shoot to surround the Jays with.

Why for Dallas: Get the third star next to Luka & KP, have 3&D players like Richardson around them.

at what point did we get OKC's 1st rounder?  sure, if we can trade picks we don't own, I'd get really creative too.  Boston only has their own first rounders going forward

Far out, that's the second time I've mistyped OKC's 2nd as OKC's 1st

Also as a reminder, that pick is top 55 protected.  In other words, it’s a useless asset, because it will not convey. Same thing with Charlotte’s pick.

Yeah, basically fake assets to create TPEs. Quite clever, though.

[gouki88]

I’ll try and keep it quasi

Trade 1: https://tradenba.com/trades/55oqrlKuF

Boston trades: Kemba Walker, 2021 OKC 1st

Dallas trades: Tim Hardaway, Jalen Brunson, Maxi Kleber

Why for Boston: Get an assortment of role players who can shoot to surround the Jays with.

Why for Dallas: Get the third star next to Luka & KP, have 3&D players like Richardson around them.

at what point did we get OKC's 1st rounder?  sure, if we can trade picks we don't own, I'd get really creative too.  Boston only has their own first rounders going forward

Far out, that's the second time I've mistyped OKC's 2nd as OKC's 1st

Also as a reminder, that pick is top 55 protected.  In other words, it’s a useless asset, because it will not convey. Same thing with Charlotte’s pick.

Dang, that totally escaped my mind (TradeNBA doesn’t list protections on previously traded picks).

It doesn’t even really matter - I’d be willing to throw in a future first for Brunson & Hardaway.

[Jvalin]

For the record, I don't think we should sell low on Kemba. If I were Danny, I'd keep him at least till the offseason. That said, I'll play along.

Imo, the first deal is an overpay, but I tried to keep it realistic for Charlotte.





Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Teague
SG: Brown - Smart - Green
SF: Porter - Satoransky - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Bamba

Let Zeller (+Teague, Green) walk at the end of the season. We'd probably save enough money to use the TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

[gouki88]

Click on images to enlarge. Imo, the first deal is an overpay, but I tried to keep it realistic for Charlotte.





Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Teague
SG: Brown - Smart - Green
SF: Porter - Satoransky - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Bamba

Let Zeller (+Teague, Green) walk at the end of the season. We'd probably save enough money to use the TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

Really not keen to bring Rozier back to play the point here. He’s currently thriving playing almost entirely off the ball alongside Hayward and Ball - doubt his recent success (which has been very impressive) would translate.

The other two deals are really solid though I think.

[Jvalin]

Click on images to enlarge. Imo, the first deal is an overpay, but I tried to keep it realistic for Charlotte.





Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Teague
SG: Brown - Smart - Green
SF: Porter - Satoransky - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Bamba

Let Zeller (+Teague, Green) walk at the end of the season. We'd probably save enough money to use the TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

Really not keen to bring Rozier back to play the point here. He’s currently thriving playing almost entirely off the ball alongside Hayward and Ball - doubt his recent success (which has been very impressive) would translate.

The other two deals are really solid though I think.

I bet Tatum/Smart would be our primary ball handlers in the half court. Rozier could be running the point in the open court.

Alternatively:



- Cut Green. His contract is non-guaranteed till February 27.
- Cut Teague and eat his salary.
- Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Edwards
SG: Brown - Smart - Romeo
SF: Porter - Nesmith - Johnson
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Timelord

[gouki88]

Click on images to enlarge. Imo, the first deal is an overpay, but I tried to keep it realistic for Charlotte.





Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Teague
SG: Brown - Smart - Green
SF: Porter - Satoransky - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Bamba

Let Zeller (+Teague, Green) walk at the end of the season. We'd probably save enough money to use the TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

Really not keen to bring Rozier back to play the point here. He’s currently thriving playing almost entirely off the ball alongside Hayward and Ball - doubt his recent success (which has been very impressive) would translate.

The other two deals are really solid though I think.

I bet Tatum/Smart would be our primary ball handlers in the half court. Rozier could be running the point in the open court.

Alternatively:



- Cut Green. His contract is non-guaranteed till February 27.
- Cut Teague and eat his salary.
- Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Edwards
SG: Brown - Smart - Romeo
SF: Porter - Nesmith - Johnson
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Timelord

I’m sure that they would be. The problem is they’re inferior passers to Hayward and Ball, and that’s why Terry would probably revert to his less effective ways.

[Erik]

In: Collins, Dunn, Redick
Out:  Smart, Timelord, two #1s, two #2s

(NOP gets Snell from ATL and #2s from us)

Can’t stress how bad this trade is on material value.

Smart is the best player in that trade. Are you sure we need to be giving 4 picks??

[Goldstar88]

For the record, I don't think we should sell low on Kemba. If I were Danny, I'd keep him at least till the offseason. That said, I'll play along.

Imo, the first deal is an overpay, but I tried to keep it realistic for Charlotte.





Sign Otto Porter via the buyout market.

PG: Rozier - Pritchard - Teague
SG: Brown - Smart - Green
SF: Porter - Satoransky - Nesmith
PF: Tatum - Semi - Grant
C: Theis - Zeller - Bamba

Let Zeller (+Teague, Green) walk at the end of the season. We'd probably save enough money to use the TPE and still keep our payroll under control.

Regarding the first trade, how many first round picks are we giving up to entice Jordan to take back a player with a terrible contract, who is injury prone, and on the wrong side of 30?  MJ did not want to re-sign Walker in the first place.