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Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2024, 11:08:46 AM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2024, 11:14:23 AM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Why?

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2024, 11:34:29 AM »

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This is a pretty green-tinted idea, but I think it may make some sense.

Spurs receive Pritchard, 30th pick
Celtics receive Sochan

If the Spurs are unable to trade for Garland or grab Shepherd in the draft, they will be on the look-out for other point guards that still have upside in production. If they are also unable/unwilling to trade for players like Dejoute Murray, Collin Sexton, and Anfernee Simons, then I think Pritchard would be on that short list with Tyus Jones and Davion Mitchell as an option to grab a young point guard with some offensive upside.

For the Celtics, Pritchard is the main weakpoint defensively in our rotation. Sochan may not be a great fit next to Wemby, but could be a good fit in the front court defensively. I think his defense would also allow us to put less miles on Tatum and Brown in the regular season.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2024, 11:37:07 AM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Why?

Not enough shooting. Randle is a 33.3% lifetime three point shooter, Bam doesn't really take threes hardly at all.

Granted Jimmy isn't a great 3 pint shooter either, but he brings you more as a creator than  Randle does so its more okay.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2024, 12:44:54 PM »

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This is a pretty green-tinted idea, but I think it may make some sense.

Spurs receive Pritchard, 30th pick
Celtics receive Sochan

If the Spurs are unable to trade for Garland or grab Shepherd in the draft, they will be on the look-out for other point guards that still have upside in production. If they are also unable/unwilling to trade for players like Dejoute Murray, Collin Sexton, and Anfernee Simons, then I think Pritchard would be on that short list with Tyus Jones and Davion Mitchell as an option to grab a young point guard with some offensive upside.

For the Celtics, Pritchard is the main weakpoint defensively in our rotation. Sochan may not be a great fit next to Wemby, but could be a good fit in the front court defensively. I think his defense would also allow us to put less miles on Tatum and Brown in the regular season.

I like it. In that same mold,

What about Pritchard  + Pick 30 for Moses Moody?

Moody plays defense and shoots the 3 at a decent clip. Golden State probably gonna purge their roster and could use a guard off the bench.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2024, 12:51:44 PM »

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This is a pretty green-tinted idea, but I think it may make some sense.

Spurs receive Pritchard, 30th pick
Celtics receive Sochan

If the Spurs are unable to trade for Garland or grab Shepherd in the draft, they will be on the look-out for other point guards that still have upside in production. If they are also unable/unwilling to trade for players like Dejoute Murray, Collin Sexton, and Anfernee Simons, then I think Pritchard would be on that short list with Tyus Jones and Davion Mitchell as an option to grab a young point guard with some offensive upside.

For the Celtics, Pritchard is the main weakpoint defensively in our rotation. Sochan may not be a great fit next to Wemby, but could be a good fit in the front court defensively. I think his defense would also allow us to put less miles on Tatum and Brown in the regular season.

I like it. In that same mold,

What about Pritchard  + Pick 30 for Moses Moody?

Moody plays defense and shoots the 3 at a decent clip. Golden State probably gonna purge their roster and could use a guard off the bench.

GS would not do that deal. Moody has more value than that. He came around for them last year, especially later in the season IIRC.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2024, 01:12:24 PM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Why?

Not enough shooting. Randle is a 33.3% lifetime three point shooter, Bam doesn't really take threes hardly at all.

Granted Jimmy isn't a great 3 pint shooter either, but he brings you more as a creator than  Randle does so its more okay.

I don't know. I think Randle is getting a bit of a short shrift here. Consider Siakam. Would Siakam be able to play with Bam?

Siakam is a similar shooter to Randle. Both around 33% over last couple of years. Randle on larger volume. But would we say Siakam cannot play with Bam?

Randle has a versatile offensive range. He is a 20-10-5 guy. He can handle the ball. He can drive. He can pass. He can post. He can finish inside. He has some midrange game. He has some outside game. He is a strong rebounder at PF who gets your team extra possessions.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2024, 01:59:41 PM »

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This is a pretty green-tinted idea, but I think it may make some sense.

Spurs receive Pritchard, 30th pick
Celtics receive Sochan

If the Spurs are unable to trade for Garland or grab Shepherd in the draft, they will be on the look-out for other point guards that still have upside in production. If they are also unable/unwilling to trade for players like Dejoute Murray, Collin Sexton, and Anfernee Simons, then I think Pritchard would be on that short list with Tyus Jones and Davion Mitchell as an option to grab a young point guard with some offensive upside.

For the Celtics, Pritchard is the main weakpoint defensively in our rotation. Sochan may not be a great fit next to Wemby, but could be a good fit in the front court defensively. I think his defense would also allow us to put less miles on Tatum and Brown in the regular season.

I like it. In that same mold,

What about Pritchard  + Pick 30 for Moses Moody?

Moody plays defense and shoots the 3 at a decent clip. Golden State probably gonna purge their roster and could use a guard off the bench.

I'm trying to get a 4-5 on our roster, not another wing. I like our wings. Hauser, Walsh, and I'm interested in watching Drew a bit more. Still, not terrible.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2024, 02:40:05 PM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Why?

Not enough shooting. Randle is a 33.3% lifetime three point shooter, Bam doesn't really take threes hardly at all.

Granted Jimmy isn't a great 3 pint shooter either, but he brings you more as a creator than  Randle does so its more okay.

I don't know. I think Randle is getting a bit of a short shrift here. Consider Siakam. Would Siakam be able to play with Bam?

Siakam is a similar shooter to Randle. Both around 33% over last couple of years. Randle on larger volume. But would we say Siakam cannot play with Bam?

Randle has a versatile offensive range. He is a 20-10-5 guy. He can handle the ball. He can drive. He can pass. He can post. He can finish inside. He has some midrange game. He has some outside game. He is a strong rebounder at PF who gets your team extra possessions.

I would say that he could play with Bam, but its certainly not optimum offensively. One of the reasons Siakam makes so much sense for the Pacers is they have a shooter center to put next to him. Its the same reaosn Giannis works so well next to Lopez. If you have one non shooter who likes the ball in his hands its best to have 4 other shooters out there.

Likewise I think Randle certainly could play with Bam, it's just that its hard in the modern NBA to play one non-shooter + one mediocre shooter and still have a very good offense.

Its not terrible, its just not a great fit. Both guys would be better off playing with 4 shooters around them. Even Butler/Bam at the 4/5 wasn't great offensively, the Heat were the 21st ranked offense last year, and I imagine it would be similar with Randle.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2024, 10:31:07 PM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Why?

Not enough shooting. Randle is a 33.3% lifetime three point shooter, Bam doesn't really take threes hardly at all.

Granted Jimmy isn't a great 3 pint shooter either, but he brings you more as a creator than  Randle does so its more okay.

I don't know. I think Randle is getting a bit of a short shrift here. Consider Siakam. Would Siakam be able to play with Bam?

Siakam is a similar shooter to Randle. Both around 33% over last couple of years. Randle on larger volume. But would we say Siakam cannot play with Bam?

Randle has a versatile offensive range. He is a 20-10-5 guy. He can handle the ball. He can drive. He can pass. He can post. He can finish inside. He has some midrange game. He has some outside game. He is a strong rebounder at PF who gets your team extra possessions.

I would say that he could play with Bam, but its certainly not optimum offensively. One of the reasons Siakam makes so much sense for the Pacers is they have a shooter center to put next to him. Its the same reaosn Giannis works so well next to Lopez. If you have one non shooter who likes the ball in his hands its best to have 4 other shooters out there.

Likewise I think Randle certainly could play with Bam, it's just that its hard in the modern NBA to play one non-shooter + one mediocre shooter and still have a very good offense.

Its not terrible, its just not a great fit. Both guys would be better off playing with 4 shooters around them. Even Butler/Bam at the 4/5 wasn't great offensively, the Heat were the 21st ranked offense last year, and I imagine it would be similar with Randle.
I get that the Knicks are not known as offensive force (though they were 7th in ORTG this year), but Robinson and Hartenstein combined for a grand total of 3 3 point attempts making 1 this year.  So it didn't really seem to stop the Knicks all that much.
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Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2024, 10:57:13 PM »

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How about Jimmy Butler to NY for Julius Randle?

Howard Beck is reporting that Miami is lookin to trade Jimmy. They are worried about giving him a big financial extension given his injury issues and number of missed games in recent years.

NYC gets a 2nd star to go alongside Brunson.
MIA gets to pair Randle with Bam and rebuild around them.

Miami

G: Rozier
G: Herro, D Robinson
F: C Martin, Highsmith
F: Randle, Jovic
C: Adebayo

Randle reminds me a bit of when Pat Riley signed Lamar Odom years ago in his rebuild after the Alonzo / Timmy era. Both are versatile ball-handling rebounding PFs.

New York

G: Brunson, McBride
G: DiVincenzo
F: J Butler, J Hart
F: OG Anunoby
C: Hartenstein, M Robinson

BAM and Randle seem like a bad fit.

Why?

Not enough shooting. Randle is a 33.3% lifetime three point shooter, Bam doesn't really take threes hardly at all.

Granted Jimmy isn't a great 3 pint shooter either, but he brings you more as a creator than  Randle does so its more okay.

I don't know. I think Randle is getting a bit of a short shrift here. Consider Siakam. Would Siakam be able to play with Bam?

Siakam is a similar shooter to Randle. Both around 33% over last couple of years. Randle on larger volume. But would we say Siakam cannot play with Bam?

Randle has a versatile offensive range. He is a 20-10-5 guy. He can handle the ball. He can drive. He can pass. He can post. He can finish inside. He has some midrange game. He has some outside game. He is a strong rebounder at PF who gets your team extra possessions.

I would say that he could play with Bam, but its certainly not optimum offensively. One of the reasons Siakam makes so much sense for the Pacers is they have a shooter center to put next to him. Its the same reaosn Giannis works so well next to Lopez. If you have one non shooter who likes the ball in his hands its best to have 4 other shooters out there.

Likewise I think Randle certainly could play with Bam, it's just that its hard in the modern NBA to play one non-shooter + one mediocre shooter and still have a very good offense.

Its not terrible, its just not a great fit. Both guys would be better off playing with 4 shooters around them. Even Butler/Bam at the 4/5 wasn't great offensively, the Heat were the 21st ranked offense last year, and I imagine it would be similar with Randle.
I get that the Knicks are not known as offensive force (though they were 7th in ORTG this year), but Robinson and Hartenstein combined for a grand total of 3 3 point attempts making 1 this year.  So it didn't really seem to stop the Knicks all that much.

The Knicks half court offense was generally pretty mediocre, they survived because they get a ton of offensive rebounds and forced turnovers. They were also the only real decent offense that played 2 below average shooters regularly, and it really only worked because Brunson was incredible.

I really don't get why the idea that "more shooters equals better offense" is so controversial. Look at the best offenses in the league this year:

Celtics: Play five out.
Pacers: Siakam only below average shooter amongst starters.
OKC: Played five out or with Gidey as worst shooter.
La clippers: Zubac generally the only non-shooter in their starting lineup.
Denver: Aaron Gordon the only below average shooter in their starters.
Milwaukee: Four shooters around Giannis pretty much always.
Dallas: Took off when they went 4 shooters and a rim running big.
GSW: Usually only plays one non shooter in Draymond or Kuminga. Sometimes both, but also have Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.

New York is basically the only offense among the top 10 that doesn't play a bare minimum of 4 shooters regularly which is kind of my point. I think if you sent Randle to play next to a non-shooter in Bam without a maestro PG like Brunson that offense will likely be below average.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2024, 12:20:14 PM »

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Non Celtics ideas:

Brandon Ingram for Darius Garland. 


Trae Young to Spurs. Keldon Johnson, #8 Pick, filler (hello again Zach Collins) to Portland, Jerami Grant, Malcolm Brogdon to ATL. Other minor contracts can make the salaries work.


Brook Lopez and Connaughton to Dallas for Hardaway and Gafford.  Bucks get younger up front. Mavs get mentor for Lively and more floor spacing.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2024, 09:48:32 AM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2024, 09:57:10 AM »

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Non Celtics ideas:

Brandon Ingram for Darius Garland. 


Trae Young to Spurs. Keldon Johnson, #8 Pick, filler (hello again Zach Collins) to Portland, Jerami Grant, Malcolm Brogdon to ATL. Other minor contracts can make the salaries work.


Brook Lopez and Connaughton to Dallas for Hardaway and Gafford.  Bucks get younger up front. Mavs get mentor for Lively and more floor spacing.

It does seem like Lopez is going to be traded, but I hadn't thought about the Mavs. I doubt the Mavs will trade Gafford though.

I'm hoping he is traded to the Wizards for Brogdon (or some other bottom-dwelling team) and then is bought out. Maybe he'd come to Boston.

Re: 2024 NBA off-season trade ideas
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2024, 10:08:31 AM »

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Brogon to Dallas for Hardaway and Powell works. Maybe the Wizards can get a future 2nd rounder out of Dallas.

Looks like Wizards and Nets are going to be in a full on race in the tanking for 2025. Wonder if the Bulls will keep selling off.
I dont think think the Nets are going to be that bad.  A lottery team no question, but not horrid.  Thomas, Johnson, Claxton, Finney-Smith, Bojan, Schroder, Simmons (or more likely what they trade him for), etc.  That team seems to have too much talent to truly tank.  I'd say they win in the same neighborhood as they did this year i.e low 30's.
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