Celtics should trade for Bamba while price is low

[greenrunsdeep41]

The only way this makes sense if its something like Langford + Memphis pick for Bamba.

[keevsnick]

Ya I'm not sacrificing smart to get Bamba. If they want to do a deal based around some combination of guys like Waters/Langford/Edwards/Semi/Gwill and/or picks then throw in Kanter/Poirer for their center depth then sure. The Magic could actually really used some help at the 1-3 to balance out a front court heavy roster so maybe they'd think about it.

[Birdman]

They not trading Smart

[slamtheking]

The only way this makes sense if its something like Langford + Memphis pick for Bamba.

that makes no sense either.

Bamba's stock has taken a hit where he's having trouble getting playing time with the Magic.  no way Danny should consider giving up a prospect with a fairly high ceiling like Langford and a certain lottery pick from Memphis whether it be this year's draft or next.  Bamba's not moving the needle for us this year and is another project in need of development (if he can even develop).  I wouldn't give up either Langford or that pick for Bamba at this point. 

[nickagneta]

How is trading Smart for Bamba getting Bamba while his price is low?

Yeah, I was thinking more like Kanter and a late 1st.

I mean, I guess the forgotten part about this deal is Fournier - he is putting up 20ppg on very good efficiency this season - but trading Smart for anybody except for guys like Luka, KAT, or Giannis (I am only exaggerating slightly) would have Cs fans storming the Garden fences.

Bamba potential is worth much more than Kanter and late 1st

Celts fans love Smart and Hayward and Tatum etc

But you cant keep them all. Its not just the money. There is a bottleneck

Why can't you keep all of them? Smart is signed for 2 more years after this. Tatum is going to get a big extension that has him on this team for the next 5-6 years. Brown is already signed long term. And Hayward is here through next year and could possibly be signed to a friendly deal thereafter.

The team got out of the repeater luxury tax situation, so reset any overwhelming luxury tax problems they might have for a couple to 3 years. This team is probably a contender in that time period so the owners will pay the future taxes, as they have in the past.

And, in the short time that everyone was healthy, this team looked dominant. So where is the bottleneck? Financially? That isn't going to be a problem for years. On the court? With the hierarchy established that the shooters will be Hayward, Kemba, Brown and Tatum on one level, Smart and Kanter on a lower tier and then everyone else well below that, everyone is getting fed, so no bottleneck there.

Not seeing what you are.

And as I said earlier, Bamba is redundant. The Celtics have three centers  they are trying to develop in Williams, Poirier and Tacko. No contending team 17 man roster can survive having 4-5 big men(if you include Grant Williams) on the roster that are all developmental projects.

[Tr1boy]

How is trading Smart for Bamba getting Bamba while his price is low?

Yeah, I was thinking more like Kanter and a late 1st.

I mean, I guess the forgotten part about this deal is Fournier - he is putting up 20ppg on very good efficiency this season - but trading Smart for anybody except for guys like Luka, KAT, or Giannis (I am only exaggerating slightly) would have Cs fans storming the Garden fences.

Bamba potential is worth much more than Kanter and late 1st

Celts fans love Smart and Hayward and Tatum etc

But you cant keep them all. Its not just the money. There is a bottleneck

Why can't you keep all of them? Smart is signed for 2 more years after this. Tatum is going to get a big extension that has him on this team for the next 5-6 years. Brown is already signed long term. And Hayward is here through next year and could possibly be signed to a friendly deal thereafter.

The team got out of the repeater luxury tax situation, so reset any overwhelming luxury tax problems they might have for a couple to 3 years. This team is probably a contender in that time period so the owners will pay the future taxes, as they have in the past.

And, in the short time that everyone was healthy, this team looked dominant. So where is the bottleneck? Financially? That isn't going to be a problem for years. On the court? With the hierarchy established that the shooters will be Hayward, Kemba, Brown and Tatum on one level, Smart and Kanter on a lower tier and then everyone else well below that, everyone is getting fed, so no bottleneck there.

Not seeing what you are.

And as I said earlier, Bamba is redundant. The Celtics have three centers  they are trying to develop in Williams, Poirier and Tacko. No contending team 17 man roster can survive having 4-5 big men(if you include Grant Williams) on the roster that are all developmental projects.

-  Hayward likely declines his player option and seeks another max deal

- Kanter picks up his player option

- 130 million plus in payroll potentially tied up for next season

If Wyc is willing to pay the tax, thats fine. The main issue imo has more to do  with "excess" at the wing

At some point I think a trade is needed to alleviate the congestion and balance the roster (center)

[seancally]

How is trading Smart for Bamba getting Bamba while his price is low?

Yeah, I was thinking more like Kanter and a late 1st.

I mean, I guess the forgotten part about this deal is Fournier - he is putting up 20ppg on very good efficiency this season - but trading Smart for anybody except for guys like Luka, KAT, or Giannis (I am only exaggerating slightly) would have Cs fans storming the Garden fences.

Bamba potential is worth much more than Kanter and late 1st

Celts fans love Smart and Hayward and Tatum etc

But you cant keep them all. Its not just the money. There is a bottleneck

Why can't you keep all of them? Smart is signed for 2 more years after this. Tatum is going to get a big extension that has him on this team for the next 5-6 years. Brown is already signed long term. And Hayward is here through next year and could possibly be signed to a friendly deal thereafter.

The team got out of the repeater luxury tax situation, so reset any overwhelming luxury tax problems they might have for a couple to 3 years. This team is probably a contender in that time period so the owners will pay the future taxes, as they have in the past.

And, in the short time that everyone was healthy, this team looked dominant. So where is the bottleneck? Financially? That isn't going to be a problem for years. On the court? With the hierarchy established that the shooters will be Hayward, Kemba, Brown and Tatum on one level, Smart and Kanter on a lower tier and then everyone else well below that, everyone is getting fed, so no bottleneck there.

Not seeing what you are.

And as I said earlier, Bamba is redundant. The Celtics have three centers  they are trying to develop in Williams, Poirier and Tacko. No contending team 17 man roster can survive having 4-5 big men(if you include Grant Williams) on the roster that are all developmental projects.

Yes - if anything, you need a glut of talented wings. That's the NBA now. It's a perimeter, swingman game. Plus when injuries pop up it sure is nice to still have guys who can score and defend. Right now in the league you just need mobile bodies at the big spots who can hustle, rebound, pass and dunk. We have those. Give me a bunch of talented wings all day. If this was our team, no Hayward, what happens if Tatum or Brown gets hurt? Having Hayward/Tatum/Brown/(Smart) is a huge, huge luxury that we would be wise to prolong.

[nickagneta]

How is trading Smart for Bamba getting Bamba while his price is low?

Yeah, I was thinking more like Kanter and a late 1st.

I mean, I guess the forgotten part about this deal is Fournier - he is putting up 20ppg on very good efficiency this season - but trading Smart for anybody except for guys like Luka, KAT, or Giannis (I am only exaggerating slightly) would have Cs fans storming the Garden fences.

Bamba potential is worth much more than Kanter and late 1st

Celts fans love Smart and Hayward and Tatum etc

But you cant keep them all. Its not just the money. There is a bottleneck

Why can't you keep all of them? Smart is signed for 2 more years after this. Tatum is going to get a big extension that has him on this team for the next 5-6 years. Brown is already signed long term. And Hayward is here through next year and could possibly be signed to a friendly deal thereafter.

The team got out of the repeater luxury tax situation, so reset any overwhelming luxury tax problems they might have for a couple to 3 years. This team is probably a contender in that time period so the owners will pay the future taxes, as they have in the past.

And, in the short time that everyone was healthy, this team looked dominant. So where is the bottleneck? Financially? That isn't going to be a problem for years. On the court? With the hierarchy established that the shooters will be Hayward, Kemba, Brown and Tatum on one level, Smart and Kanter on a lower tier and then everyone else well below that, everyone is getting fed, so no bottleneck there.

Not seeing what you are.

And as I said earlier, Bamba is redundant. The Celtics have three centers  they are trying to develop in Williams, Poirier and Tacko. No contending team 17 man roster can survive having 4-5 big men(if you include Grant Williams) on the roster that are all developmental projects.

-  Hayward likely declines his player option and seeks another max deal

- Kanter picks up his player option

- 130 million plus in payroll potentially tied up for next season

If Wyc is willing to pay the tax, thats fine. The main issue imo has more to do  with "excess" at the wing

At some point I think a trade is needed to alleviate the congestion and balance the roster (center)

The luxury tax next year is projected at around $141 million. So who cares if their salary is at $130-140 million. It's under the tax.

[Fafnir]

Why would we trade Smart for a center who hasn't proven to be a rotation player in the regular season let alone playoffs and an offense only SG who can be a FA?

Marcus is also our defacto backup PG, so that'd create a hole in that role as well as that of defensive stopper.

[Fafnir]

Khem Birch is a better player than Bamba right now. We really don't have the roster bandwith to develop two center prospects given how good the team is right now.

[ETNCeltics]

How is trading Smart for Bamba getting Bamba while his price is low?

Yeah, I was thinking more like Kanter and a late 1st.

I mean, I guess the forgotten part about this deal is Fournier - he is putting up 20ppg on very good efficiency this season - but trading Smart for anybody except for guys like Luka, KAT, or Giannis (I am only exaggerating slightly) would have Cs fans storming the Garden fences.

Bamba potential is worth much more than Kanter and late 1st

Celts fans love Smart and Hayward and Tatum etc

But you cant keep them all. Its not just the money. There is a bottleneck

No there isn't. CBS tries to keep 2 of his best 5 players on the floor at all times, and hasn't always been able to do that with Hayward hurt. Even when Hayward was healthy, all 5 were getting 30+ minutes/night.

And if anyone thinks Danny Ainge is trading Marcus Smart, they aren't paying attention. Ainge would burn the organization to the ground before he'd trade Smart.

[knuckleballer]

Time Lord is better now and a better prospect.  I love seeing how much he has improved.  It's fun to see a player you're rooting for improve before your eyes.  No to Bamba.

[cons]

so far the song " mo bamba " is better than the player mo bamba.

and thats not great for the player because the song - while it has its merits - is not really like a great all time song

so i would not do this trade

[ETNCeltics]

Little secret many Celtics fans ignore or don't want to admit is that Daniel Theis has outplayed many of the guys we've seen it proposed that we trade for.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

What is Robert Williams worth? Because Bamba is worth less than that. Look at their stat comparison so far this year.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Robert+Williams&player_id1_select=Robert+Williams&player_id1=williro04&y1=2020&player_id2_hint=Mohamed+Bamba&player_id2_select=Mohamed+Bamba&y2=2020&player_id2=bambamo01&idx=players

Williams with similar rebounding and points (on way better efficiency), more steals, similar blocks, way more assists, and way better offense and defensive ratings.

I'd say Williams is probably worth a mid-round to late round first.