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How to fix the 76ers issues
« on: November 17, 2019, 03:23:25 AM »

Offline shut_the_gate

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*Please note I hope they don't lol

Fire Brown and replace him with either Jim O'Brien, Joseph Blair,  Adrian Griffin.

Trade Tobias Harris for Chris Paul and Thunder 1st pick
Trade Ben Simmons for Bradley Beal

Embiid
Horford
Richardson
Beal
Paul

Flip 1st pick and salary filler for a bench scorer

Re: How to fix the 76ers issues
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 03:28:08 AM »

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Not feasible, Harris is even more of a negative asset than Chris Paul at this point, and the Wizards do not want Simmons when they have 8mura as their big forward.
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Re: How to fix the 76ers issues
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2019, 03:32:21 AM »

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Unsure why OKC would do this, to be honest. Gallo, T Ferg, Diallo and Bazley are all important guys for them and I don't know if they would want to bring Tobias in. He and Gallo seem a bit redundant to me.

Also unsure if Washington do that. Beal is better than Simmons, and Simmons has a brutal extension.
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Re: How to fix the 76ers issues
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2019, 04:34:25 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

Start
Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant

Re: How to fix the 76ers issues
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2019, 04:36:22 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

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Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2019, 04:42:57 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

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Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
^this, although I'd argue that Giannis is quite a bit more valuable than Embiid.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2019, 04:50:59 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

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Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
Embid is a chemistry problem as a guy who doesn't always play hard or give effort. A world of talent but not a leader. Sooner they move on the more they can get for him.

Re: How to fix the 76ers issues
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2019, 04:54:13 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

Start
Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
Embid is a chemistry problem as a guy who doesn't always play hard or give effort. A world of talent but not a leader. Sooner they move on the more they can get for him.
You know this based on ... what? Simmons does very similar things in terms of effort, yet is a vastly inferior talent who breaks their team come playoff time. Moving Embiid is foolish, especially for a guard who likely won't make an All-NBA team this year.
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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2019, 05:12:37 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

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Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
Embid is a chemistry problem as a guy who doesn't always play hard or give effort. A world of talent but not a leader. Sooner they move on the more they can get for him.
You know this based on ... what? Simmons does very similar things in terms of effort, yet is a vastly inferior talent who breaks their team come playoff time. Moving Embiid is foolish, especially for a guard who likely won't make an All-NBA team this year.
I know based on reporting out of Philly. And comments like Al has brought professionalism to pratice. The talk of Embid pulling himself out of games due to "conditioning" in the past. Where are they getting all that if its not true? Embid is more Howard than Hakeem and they should cash in on him.

If you think it's one sided ask for a 1st on top of Beal and Bryant. But you arent getting Harden or a Giannis type upgrade for the guy. It's going to be a downgrade and a pick if you move Simmons or Embid. Beal is still an All-NBA talent even if he might not make it.

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2019, 05:20:43 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

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Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
Embid is a chemistry problem as a guy who doesn't always play hard or give effort. A world of talent but not a leader. Sooner they move on the more they can get for him.
You know this based on ... what? Simmons does very similar things in terms of effort, yet is a vastly inferior talent who breaks their team come playoff time. Moving Embiid is foolish, especially for a guard who likely won't make an All-NBA team this year.
I know based on reporting out of Philly. And comments like Al has brought professionalism to pratice. The talk of Embid pulling himself out of games due to "conditioning" in the past. Where are they getting all that if its not true? Embid is more Howard than Hakeem and they should cash in on him.

If you think it's one sided ask for a 1st on top of Beal and Bryant. But you arent getting Harden or a Giannis type upgrade for the guy. It's going to be a downgrade and a pick if you move Simmons or Embid. Beal is still an All-NBA talent even if he might not make it.
I don't think it's a particular surprise that the guy who has never missed the playoffs in his entire career brings professionalism to a place. He's been a winner since he was a college player.
Yeah, Embiid's conditioning has been bad in the past. But he's also the best big man in the East. Should Denver trade Jokic, who has much worse conditioning than Embiid?

I just don't get how you could think moving Embiid over Simmons is the right call, in any world. And who knows if Beal still looks as good on that team.

A lineup of Simmons-Beal-Harris-Horford-Bryant has some serious defensive issues, and they lose their MVP-caliber talent.
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Re: How to fix the 76ers issues
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2019, 05:50:40 AM »

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Embid and Richardson for Beal and Bryant.

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Simmons, Beal, Harris, Horford, Bryant
That would get Brand rightfully fired. You do not move Embiid unless you're getting a Giannis type in return.
Embid is a chemistry problem as a guy who doesn't always play hard or give effort. A world of talent but not a leader. Sooner they move on the more they can get for him.
You know this based on ... what? Simmons does very similar things in terms of effort, yet is a vastly inferior talent who breaks their team come playoff time. Moving Embiid is foolish, especially for a guard who likely won't make an All-NBA team this year.
I know based on reporting out of Philly. And comments like Al has brought professionalism to pratice. The talk of Embid pulling himself out of games due to "conditioning" in the past. Where are they getting all that if its not true? Embid is more Howard than Hakeem and they should cash in on him.

If you think it's one sided ask for a 1st on top of Beal and Bryant. But you arent getting Harden or a Giannis type upgrade for the guy. It's going to be a downgrade and a pick if you move Simmons or Embid. Beal is still an All-NBA talent even if he might not make it.
I don't think it's a particular surprise that the guy who has never missed the playoffs in his entire career brings professionalism to a place. He's been a winner since he was a college player.
Yeah, Embiid's conditioning has been bad in the past. But he's also the best big man in the East. Should Denver trade Jokic, who has much worse conditioning than Embiid?

I just don't get how you could think moving Embiid over Simmons is the right call, in any world. And who knows if Beal still looks as good on that team.

A lineup of Simmons-Beal-Harris-Horford-Bryant has some serious defensive issues, and they lose their MVP-caliber talent.
I hear ya on Embid being a great talent. When it comes to moving guys it's about return and team fit so that is why I suggested Beal and Bryant for Embid and Richardson. Yes Embid is the best player but it's a different NBA, is a Center capable of impacting the game like a guard or wing can today? Embid nets you the biggest gain while the 76ers also need a closer/shot getter. So get a first pick or two and get a player that fits.

For me that player is Beal. He is a scorer and clutch player. He has a good history of working hard and working well with teammates helping them much like Kemba has. I was the biggest undervaluer of Kemba on here and I now acknowledge (though Kemba not being efficent was my case and that part remains even now) his chemistry has indeed helped. Beal would be a good chemistry fit for the 76ers.

Simmons, Bryant, and Horford are still good defenders. Harris when he wants to be can turn up his defense as well. They also have developing young defenders to call off the bench in spots. So I would not worry about defense. The finisher is the need right now.

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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 07:55:04 AM »

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They should sit Embiid and tank it out

they real good at dat

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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 08:03:51 AM »

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They should sit Embiid and tank it out

they real good at dat
Lol I actually said they needed one more year of tanking before they got rid of Hinkie. I thought they needed a big 3 and a specialist role player before they start to try for playoffs. They jumped the gun after tanking it so well.
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Why do we WANT to fix them?

But if we REALLY do attempt to help them



Then schedule the Guangzhou Long-Lions for the remainder of their games. Simmons' three point percentage will go WAAYYY up.

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2019, 08:21:23 AM »

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The trade for Tobias Harris reminds me of Charlotte's trade for Batum.  Both on the last year of their contracts. After the trade was made the Sixers and the Hornets were compelled to sign Harris and Batum to massive long term contracts, tying up valuable cap space on at best solid rotation players.