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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #45 on: April 02, 2016, 05:13:02 PM »

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The hype train for Hield on this forum is out of control. If you take a step back, you'll realize that his only above-average skill is shooting. He's an average athlete, below average size, average handles, average defense, average playmaking, below average decisionmaking, etc. It's just that as a college senior, he's above average in all those categories compared with his competition, so he dominates. In the NBA, he's probably a good role player. He might still be a top-10 prospect, but that's just because this draft has a crappy top 10.

Hield > James Young, R.J. Hunter and even Evan "Celticsblog doesn't hate on you as much as they used to" Turner.
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #46 on: April 02, 2016, 05:25:49 PM »

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Nah.


As for the "his only above average ability is shooting" thing, well ...

Putting the ball in the basket is kind of an important skill.  So many guys have been drafted to this league whose only skill PERIOD was that.  So if Hield is this good at shooting -- and it appears he is, since it's been going for a while -- and he's at least a decent or coachable player in numerous other categories, he could easily be a star.

How many people thought Curry would do anything other than shooting at the level he's currently doing it?  Curry isn't just an amazing shooter.

Not saying Hield will ever be nearly as good as Curry.  The point is, having great shooting / scoring as your one stand out skill is actually a pretty significant thing.

Curry like we saw last night has his share of issues turning the corner and getting to the basket /finishing at the rim (t Rex arms/lacks explosive jumping ability)

But the way he can shoot, it doesn't really matter. 

Hield looks like he can also play the perimeter give and go/pnr  game all night long.   

And he is an underrated athlete.  Good wingspan.    Better than Curry at finishing at the basket. 

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #47 on: April 02, 2016, 05:34:06 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

No, the 76ers have the right to swap with the Kings, so they won't have the opportunity to make that mistake

We don't know yet if the 76ers will get the 1st pick

I'm not saying that they will, only that the only team with a history of really bad drafting and a lottery pick won't have the 1st overall pick.

No competent GM is gonna take him 1st
I'm bitter.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #48 on: April 02, 2016, 05:40:10 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

No, the 76ers have the right to swap with the Kings, so they won't have the opportunity to make that mistake

We don't know yet if the 76ers will get the 1st pick

I'm not saying that they will, only that the only team with a history of really bad drafting and a lottery pick won't have the 1st overall pick.

No competent GM is gonna take him 1st


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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2016, 06:15:33 PM »

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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2016, 06:45:36 PM »

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He is filling it up tonight

I knew he was going to be hounded like crazy.  Still another half left

But reality is Oklahoma has nobody else (NBA quality talent) to carry the load of help take the attention off Hield.  It is surprising they made it this far.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2016, 06:48:27 PM »

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This Buddy guy gotta push off every time to get his shot off.

Whats he gonna do when up against more athletic guys if he has to push off college defenders.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2016, 06:55:09 PM »

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I got the same concern for Murray. Both of these guys are not very athletic.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2016, 06:57:18 PM »

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Adam Morison dominated college hoops but wasn't very athletic.

There has to be some concern with Hield and his lack of athleticism. I still take him fifth in the draft but he might never live up to this crazy hype.


Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2016, 07:00:29 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

No, the 76ers have the right to swap with the Kings, so they won't have the opportunity to make that mistake

We don't know yet if the 76ers will get the 1st pick

I'm not saying that they will, only that the only team with a history of really bad drafting and a lottery pick won't have the 1st overall pick.

No competent GM is gonna take him 1st


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ha, ha...triboy, no offense, but you may wish to think carefully about the bolded and how your statement fits into it. perhaps you may wish to rephrase it.  ;D
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2016, 07:01:16 PM »

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This game is good example of the downside of Hield. He s having trouble creating for himself and dealing with pressure. The love for Buddy as a top 3 pick has gotten out of control hopefully this throws some cold water on that.

People see him knock down 3's in the pick and roll and think Steph Curry/Damian Lillard. He's more like a middle class Bradley Beal (who he is currently the same age as)
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Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2016, 07:04:54 PM »

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Evan,

Nice job. Bradley beal is a decent best case comparison that you made. I think Beal is a bit quicker though and may get a bit more lift on his jumper.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2016, 07:05:49 PM »

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Ingram is an easy choice over Hield.

He won't have trouble getting his shot off.

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2016, 07:14:16 PM »

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As pretty much everyone else has said, in no world will Hield go number 1.

There is a small chance he could.

One of the best shooters to come out of college in the last 3 years. Needs only a crack of room before launching the 3. Able to get free using picks to shoot 3s. 

In tremendous shape and a good athlete

No, the 76ers have the right to swap with the Kings, so they won't have the opportunity to make that mistake

We don't know yet if the 76ers will get the 1st pick

I'm not saying that they will, only that the only team with a history of really bad drafting and a lottery pick won't have the 1st overall pick.

No competent GM is gonna take him 1st


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ha, ha...triboy, no offense, but you may wish to think carefully about the bolded and how your statement fits into it. perhaps you may wish to rephrase it.  ;D

THIS game changes nothing.  He has already done more than enough to solidify his stock in the draft. 

Tell me how far did Simmons(couldn't even help his team crack MM tourney)  and Ingram take their teams? 

And yeah , they are young so we don't know (but also had better talent to work with).  And what we do know is Hield carried his no name team to the final four.   

Re: Could Hield go #1?
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2016, 07:21:18 PM »

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This game is good example of the downside of Hield. He s having trouble creating for himself and dealing with pressure. The love for Buddy as a top 3 pick has gotten out of control hopefully this throws some cold water on that.

People see him knock down 3's in the pick and roll and think Steph Curry/Damian Lillard. He's more like a middle class Bradley Beal (who he is currently the same age as)

game is not over yet.  Hield likes these kind of situations