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Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2019, 11:12:00 PM »

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I seriously don't understand why you guys want to see Robert Williams on the court.  He's not a good player.  Constantly out of position on both sides of the court.  Just watch him play... he has no idea where to be. 

I like him as an asset.  I think he can become a good player.  And by all accounts, he has approached this season with the right attitude and work ethic.  I'm hopeful.  But right now, he's right where he belongs:  on the bench. 

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2019, 11:16:34 PM »

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I seriously don't understand why you guys want to see Robert Williams on the court.  He's not a good player.  Constantly out of position on both sides of the court.  Just watch him play... he has no idea where to be. 

I like him as an asset.  I think he can become a good player.  And by all accounts, he has approached this season with the right attitude and work ethic.  I'm hopeful.  But right now, he's right where he belongs:  on the bench.

Williams PER is 20.

Ojeleye's PER is 9.

Williams biggest problem is that everyone keeps trying to throw him lobs, that don't work.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066211

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2019, 11:33:38 PM »

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Robert is the superior athlete and shot blocker, but he gets roasted one on one and in the pick & roll. Semi is more fundamentally sound especially on the defensive end.

Lol. Ojeleye sucks on defense.
Simply untrue.

Simply true.


Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2019, 11:47:49 PM »

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Robert is the superior athlete and shot blocker, but he gets roasted one on one and in the pick & roll. Semi is more fundamentally sound especially on the defensive end.

Lol. Ojeleye sucks on defense.
Simply untrue.

Simply true.



Zero steals, zero blocks, and a minus eleven.

Overrated defender. Taller players simple shoot over him.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2019, 11:58:19 PM »

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Robert is the superior athlete and shot blocker, but he gets roasted one on one and in the pick & roll. Semi is more fundamentally sound especially on the defensive end.

Lol. Ojeleye sucks on defense.
Simply untrue.

Simply true.



Zero steals, zero blocks, and a minus eleven.

Overrated defender. Taller players simple shoot over him.
He plays a completely different position to Williams. He's a wing, Williams is a big. Why aren't you complaining about Yabu playing ahead of Williams?
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Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2019, 12:42:43 AM »

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There's got to be something that they've seen in Timelord, maybe in practice, that has made Brad and the rest of the brains trust to hold Timelord back. Maybe he's struggling to adapt do the always-switch defense. I've seen him overhelp numerous times and leave his man open, maybe he's not quite on par with the defensive schemes. Must be some structural stuff that we the fans are missing.

Also Ojeleye can stretch the floor and hit the occasional 3...even Yabu. We know how much Brad values positionless basketball. Maybe Timelord needs to get some tips from Baynes on how to shoot 3s this summer.
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Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2019, 03:16:05 AM »

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There's got to be something that they've seen in Timelord, maybe in practice, that has made Brad and the rest of the brains trust to hold Timelord back. Maybe he's struggling to adapt do the always-switch defense. I've seen him overhelp numerous times and leave his man open, maybe he's not quite on par with the defensive schemes. Must be some structural stuff that we the fans are missing.

Also Ojeleye can stretch the floor and hit the occasional 3...even Yabu. We know how much Brad values positionless basketball. Maybe Timelord needs to get some tips from Baynes on how to shoot 3s this summer.


Brad makes mistakes. I would be giving Williams playing time to get him ready for the playoffs. He is already a better player than Ojeleye.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2019, 04:20:09 AM »

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There's got to be something that they've seen in Timelord, maybe in practice, that has made Brad and the rest of the brains trust to hold Timelord back. Maybe he's struggling to adapt do the always-switch defense. I've seen him overhelp numerous times and leave his man open, maybe he's not quite on par with the defensive schemes. Must be some structural stuff that we the fans are missing.

Also Ojeleye can stretch the floor and hit the occasional 3...even Yabu. We know how much Brad values positionless basketball. Maybe Timelord needs to get some tips from Baynes on how to shoot 3s this summer.


Brad makes mistakes. I would be giving Williams playing time to get him ready for the playoffs. He is already a better player than Ojeleye.
He won't be playing in the playoffs so no need to get him ready.  There is a good chance he won't even be in uniform.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2019, 08:16:52 AM »

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to me the problem is 9-27 irving instead of more shots for 7-13 tatum.  They have to feed the hot hand more and the guys who are cold have to shoot less.  Not stop shooting, just shoot less.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2019, 08:19:44 AM »

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to me the problem is 9-27 irving instead of more shots for 7-13 tatum.  They have to feed the hot hand more and the guys who are cold have to shoot less.  Not stop shooting, just shoot less.

I'm a big Irving fan, but I agree that he should have distributed the ball better. Brown and Tatum should have gotten a lot more shots. This was a very winnable game last night.


Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2019, 08:51:42 AM »

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I seriously don't understand why you guys want to see Robert Williams on the court.  He's not a good player.  Constantly out of position on both sides of the court.  Just watch him play... he has no idea where to be. 

I like him as an asset.  I think he can become a good player.  And by all accounts, he has approached this season with the right attitude and work ethic.  I'm hopeful.  But right now, he's right where he belongs:  on the bench.

Williams PER is 20.

Ojeleye's PER is 9.

Williams biggest problem is that everyone keeps trying to throw him lobs, that don't work.

http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066211

PER doesn't tell you who is better or worse. All it does is attempt to quantify efficiency in the minutes they've played

It should be no surprise that the guy whose offense consists of the occasional alley oop is efficient
I'm bitter.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2019, 09:00:42 AM »

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Robert is the superior athlete and shot blocker, but he gets roasted one on one and in the pick & roll. Semi is more fundamentally sound especially on the defensive end.

Lol. Ojeleye sucks on defense.
Simply untrue.

Simply true.



Zero steals, zero blocks, and a minus eleven.

Overrated defender. Taller players simple shoot over him.

Counting stats don't necessarily provide an accurate representation of a player defensive acumen.  I thought that was already a pretty straight forward notion.


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Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2019, 09:03:30 AM »

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Robert is the superior athlete and shot blocker, but he gets roasted one on one and in the pick & roll. Semi is more fundamentally sound especially on the defensive end.

Lol. Ojeleye sucks on defense.
Simply untrue.

Simply true.



Zero steals, zero blocks, and a minus eleven.

Overrated defender. Taller players simple shoot over him.

Counting stats don't necessarily provide an accurate representation of a player defensive acumen.  I thought that was already a pretty straight forward notion.

No steal, no blocks, and people shoot over him all the time.

Time to move on.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2019, 09:06:59 AM »

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Perimeter defense. Ability to matchup against forwards with perimeter skills and/or speed.

Robert Williams specialty is interior defense. Different defensive-skill set. Matches up against different sorts of players. Interior players. Paint dwellers. Slower players.

Re: Why Ojeleye instead of Robert Williams?
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2019, 09:15:39 AM »

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Robert is the superior athlete and shot blocker, but he gets roasted one on one and in the pick & roll. Semi is more fundamentally sound especially on the defensive end.

Lol. Ojeleye sucks on defense.
Simply untrue.

Simply true.



Zero steals, zero blocks, and a minus eleven.

Overrated defender. Taller players simple shoot over him.

Counting stats don't necessarily provide an accurate representation of a player defensive acumen.  I thought that was already a pretty straight forward notion.

No steal, no blocks, and people shoot over him all the time.

Time to move on.

Yeah, I'd say it time to move on from your archaic view of defense. 


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