Bucks Fire Adrian Griffin

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I never understood why a team competing for a title would go for a young unproven coach.  Feel bad for Griffin, but that was always a weird hire to me.

The Mazzulla Precedent 

you stole my line!!! haha

[Atzar]

Seems to me that building a roster devoid of a single quality perimeter defender is an error of roster construction, not coaching.  GM should follow him out the door.

Not in touch with the Bucks well enough to know what the general impression of Griffin was.  Getting fired with that record suggests some sort of behind-the-scenes blowout to me though, either with Giannis/Lillard or the GM. 

[michigan adam]

Article complained they went from one of the best defenses to one of the worst.  Gee...thats what happens when you trade your best defender playing big minutes and replace him with a guy playing more minutes who is one of your worst defenders...Their whole mentality changes for the worse.

[celticinorlando]

For all the talk of the record and how successful they’ve been, has anyone actually been watching them or compared their record to the teams they’ve beat/their overall strength of schedule?

Depending upon what metric you use, Milwaukee has genuinely played a bottom 3 strength of schedule thus far, and most places have them as the most difficult remaining strength of schedule.

Further, in a good portion of their wins they’re barely beating bad teams by better play in the clutch after being outplayed or matched through most of the game, including close wins against the Cunningham-less Pistons in their last two games.

Their defense is atrocious, and their good offense is only barely able to cover their defensive deficiencies with a 3.8 net rating good for 10th in the league against a very soft schedule thus far. I think there’s real concern in Milwaukee that with a much tougher schedule in the second half of the season that they’re not going to be able to get away with playing like they’ve been playing.

YES! they have play more home games and have gotten fat on bad teams, much like they did last season when they went on that long win streak.

Beat Boston after 3 days off and the Cs on a back to back with travel. The schedule has been kind to them.

[liam]

Wow, that's on management. You hire a guy who doesn't even make it through one season.

[scaryjerry]

Further, in a good portion of their wins they’re barely beating bad teams by better play in the clutch after being outplayed or matched through most of the game, including close wins against the Cunningham-less Pistons in their last two games.

Being a Celtics fan, I thought this was normal.

Right?
We literally almost lost to the pistons too, albeit they had Cade but the pistons have been playing just as good without him.

That said the bucks have been worse then their record suggests(except for when they played us) and potentially the only worse coach in the league then mazzula was Adrian griffin

[liam]

Are the Bucks hiring Doc?

[angryguy77]

Bucks were dumb(like we were) to make their team and on the job training program, but smart to realize it's not working.
W/L record doesn't mean a whole lot on this league given you can stack wins on the backs of garbage teams.
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I wonder if Dame is going to start making noises to leave in the offseason given the turmoil.

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For all the talk of the record and how successful they’ve been, has anyone actually been watching them or compared their record to the teams they’ve beat/their overall strength of schedule?

Depending upon what metric you use, Milwaukee has genuinely played a bottom 3 strength of schedule thus far, and most places have them as the most difficult remaining strength of schedule.

Further, in a good portion of their wins they’re barely beating bad teams by better play in the clutch after being outplayed or matched through most of the game, including close wins against the Cunningham-less Pistons in their last two games.

Their defense is atrocious, and their good offense is only barely able to cover their defensive deficiencies with a 3.8 net rating good for 10th in the league against a very soft schedule thus far. I think there’s real concern in Milwaukee that with a much tougher schedule in the second half of the season that they’re not going to be able to get away with playing like they’ve been playing.

YES! they have play more home games and have gotten fat on bad teams, much like they did last season when they went on that long win streak.

Beat Boston after 3 days off and the Cs on a back to back with travel. The schedule has been kind to them.

The bold is absolutely true about the Bucks so far.  They have only had 3 games against the top 7 teams in the league.  They haven't played a single Western Conf contender yet at all.   Maybe they will surprise us, but the odds are their winning % in the 2nd half of the season won't be as good as the first.

[Who]

About time. Dumb ass decision to hire him in the first place. They were enough warning signs in preseason when Stotts left.

[Ed Monix]

Damian Lillard reportedly had a hard time adjusting to Milwaukee’s offensive scheme.
 
“Along the way, league sources say, Lillard has spent much of this season struggling with the way the Bucks function on the offensive end. While he had remained patient with coaches and teammates, there was an inevitable pressure on Griffin from the organization to make the most of Lillard’s talent in the kind of way that validates the choice to part ways with Jrue Holiday, Grayson Allen and three first-round picks in order to land him.”

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Source: The Athletic

[Goldstar88]

Gives hope to all the “Fire Joe!” people. 

In all seriousness, it’s pretty messed up how Giannis, I mean the Bucks, have been tossing their coaches to the curb lately.

[Vermont Green]

I never understood why a team competing for a title would go for a young unproven coach.  Feel bad for Griffin, but that was always a weird hire to me.

The Mazzulla Precedent 

you stole my line!!! haha

I am not sure how much sarcasm is in this but the Celtics were forced to hire a coach after Udoka was embroiled in a scandal, near the end of the off season.  So they promoted an assistant.  It would have been difficult for them to conduct a formal coaching search at that point.

The Bucks hired Griffin away from Toronto at the beginning of June.  They weren't forced or rushed into it at all, after firing Budenholzer in early May.

[RJ87]

Damian Lillard reportedly had a hard time adjusting to Milwaukee’s offensive scheme.
 
“Along the way, league sources say, Lillard has spent much of this season struggling with the way the Bucks function on the offensive end. While he had remained patient with coaches and teammates, there was an inevitable pressure on Griffin from the organization to make the most of Lillard’s talent in the kind of way that validates the choice to part ways with Jrue Holiday, Grayson Allen and three first-round picks in order to land him.”

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Source: The Athletic

I firmly believe that if they knew they had a chance at Dame, the Bucks would've never parted with Bud. They certainly wouldn't have hired Griffin.

[Goldstar88]

Damian Lillard reportedly had a hard time adjusting to Milwaukee’s offensive scheme.
 
“Along the way, league sources say, Lillard has spent much of this season struggling with the way the Bucks function on the offensive end. While he had remained patient with coaches and teammates, there was an inevitable pressure on Griffin from the organization to make the most of Lillard’s talent in the kind of way that validates the choice to part ways with Jrue Holiday, Grayson Allen and three first-round picks in order to land him.”

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Source: The Athletic

I firmly believe that if they knew they had a chance at Dame, the Bucks would've never parted with Bud. They certainly wouldn't have hired Griffin.

Giannis wanted Bud gone, and then he was gone.