2020 Historic Draft: How’s My Team Look: Conference Finals winners announced!!

[gouki88]

Now that I have my starters + 6th man, anyone want to give their thoughts on the Clippers?

Team is as follows:

PG: Steph Curry / Deron Williams
SG: Michael Redd
SF: Grant Hill
PF: Elton Brand
C: Joakim Noah

I see this team as a very very souped up version of the 2011 Chicago Bulls. 

Noah still in place. 
A better all-star caliber version of a then above average PF who can play set ball screens, play inside, and make long jumpers.
A better version of a jack of all trades SF who's caling card largely is defense, but can do it all.
A much better version of whoever they used to roll out at SG.
A better version of an MVP point guard.

I know the team comparison doesn't sound great, but I actually liked that team and all your upgrades are significant.  I think in this game of superstars, you really have to think seriously about the reduced roles every player will have and I think comparisons I laid out is pretty close to the roles your players would adapt in your team.  And I like them.  Making sure we don't lose sight of how much better of an MVP, offensive engine Curry is than Rose.

Ooo, I’d never even thought about it like that, but I definitely like the comparison. TP for that, interesting to think about. 

[action781]

Since my team is done for the day

G:  Ray Allen and Chauncey Billups
F.  Lebron James and Gerald Wallace
C.  Rudy Gobert


My team has a strong defense with a balanced offense.   Three guys that can shoot a high % of three pointers around Lebron.

The defense outside of Ray is fantastic.  This sounds weird, but in this particular league, I think your scoring might be a bit limited compared to your peers?

I agree that the offense is a bit limited on this team.  I don't think Gerald Wallace is a high % 3 point shooter.  Even assuming you choose his best season which is the one season he shot 37% on 3 (which was a serious anomaly), that was only on 1.8 attempts per game.  Based on his career work, I don't think that you can think of him as a serious threat from 3.

I'd like to see Wallace move to the bench, just like how its been suggested AK47 should.  He's a classic "energy off the bench" kind of guy and would be great in that role.  I see two really good complementary-offense PFs available I think you could slot into this team that would be a great fit.

[action781]

Would appreciate to hear people's feedback on my team the Utah Jazz.

Starters:  Jason Kidd - Reggie Miller - Peja Stojakovic - Al Horford - Shaq
Bench:  Rajon Rondo

I have a floor-spreading, more athletic PF that I'm considering drafting next who could possibly start and move Horford to the bench.  What do people think about that idea in theory? 

I do love Horford's elbows-wide-screens freeing up Reggie and Peja off-ball with the starting unit, but that could move to my offensive attack when Shaq rests.

[nickagneta]

Would appreciate to hear people's feedback on my team the Utah Jazz.

Starters:  Jason Kidd - Reggie Miller - Peja Stojakovic - Al Horford - Shaq
Bench:  Rajon Rondo

I have a floor-spreading, more athletic PF that I'm considering drafting next who could possibly start and move Horford to the bench.  What do people think about that idea in theory? 

I do love Horford's elbows-wide-screens freeing up Reggie and Peja off-ball with the starting unit, but that could move to my offensive attack when Shaq rests.

Love your starters, especially if you pick a Kidd year where he is hitting the three at an above average to great rate.

Not loving Rondo as a 6th man or backup PG as he really is kind of redundant with a very similar skill set to Kidd. I think there were better options out there.

But Rondo is easily tradeable and could net you a great asset in a trade.

[Somebody]

Toronto Raptors

PG: Kyle Lowry
SG: Vince Carter
SF: Khris Middleton
PF: Kevin Garnett
C: David Robinson

Plan for this team is to attack the opposing team's weak link(s) with global offence: all of my players can handle the ball, pass and score on all three levels. We'll be relying on the best defensive frontcourt in this draft to buoy our defence with length, speed and intensity while having some pesky perimeter defenders in Lowry and Middleton. Thoughts on the team?

Nasty team. KG is fricken awesome, and he's got three ~40% three point shooters next to him, as well as a great defensive anchor. I think a defensive specialist wing could be an awesome addition. Or a super-offensively focused big

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[Who]

Would appreciate to hear people's feedback on my team the Utah Jazz.

Starters:  Jason Kidd - Reggie Miller - Peja Stojakovic - Al Horford - Shaq
Bench:  Rajon Rondo

I have a floor-spreading, more athletic PF that I'm considering drafting next who could possibly start and move Horford to the bench.  What do people think about that idea in theory? 

I do love Horford's elbows-wide-screens freeing up Reggie and Peja off-ball with the starting unit, but that could move to my offensive attack when Shaq rests.

I am a fan of your team but I am still trying to wrap my head around your team's offense. Not because it is bad or anything like that just because it is so different to what we have seen Shaq with in the past.

Shaq had so much success with a dominant perimeter player who can create for himself and others - in Orlando, with the Lakers and in Miami. You went away from that and created a different recipe (which is always fun to see).

I also keep thinking of Shaq in the Triangle offense. I thought that was the best offense he played in because it was so post-orientated. It ensured his touches better than the offenses he played with in Orlando or Miami where his touches were less dependable. Everything flowed through him in the Triangle. So every time I look at your team, my first thought is "jeez, I am not sure Peja is right for the Triangle - he should be running off screens" .... even though there is no Triangle here. 

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I love that you have Kidd as your PG because he can dominate games without scoring. I am not worried about his outside shooting because I believe he would've developed his outside shot quicker if he was playing in today's league. So I am comfortable assuming his 2010 levels of shooting during his prime years in New Jersey. A dependable spot up three point shooter rather than an off the dribble three point shooter.

I also love that Kidd will make sure the ball works through Shaquille O'Neal which many other (scoring) PGs would not do as well as Kidd would.

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Peja and Reggie are cool shooters but they need screens to free themselves up. I am concerned that none of your 4 other starters can create their own shot off the dribble effectively. They are all dependent on someone helping them get open.

That is the main issue I see. Shaq is the only guy who creates his own offense. Everyone else needs help to get good shots.

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I am not sure I buy the Horford criticism - criticism about his quickness. He was plenty quick and athletic enough during his prime in Atlanta. He is quicker than probably half the starting PFs in this league.

Dirk. K-Malone. Pau. C-Webb. Brand. Towns if he starts at PF. Aldridge. Horford is quicker than all of those guys. And he is one of the better PFs defensively on the perimeter.

I like Horford's glue guy potential as a defensive PF. Shaq always liked (needed?) that next to him. Horford's rebounding (especially in boxing out other physical PFs) is also an asset.

I am not as sure on offense. I think Shaq relegates Horford to the periphery of things. I am not sure Horford will get the touches in the spots he wants to make much of an impact but he'll be okay in the shadows. He won't hurt you. He is too skilled, too smart. Passing, shooting, some handles. So that is fine.

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Mmm ...

I am not sure there is a good enough shot creating wing available but there are still PGs available. Kidd is big enough to slide over to SGs defensively and play in a two guard backcourt if that was your desire.

Or even a 6th man type guard so you have that option if you need more shot creation on the perimeter. Keep the starting lineup as is and have a game-changing option off the bench. Yeah, I like that as an option. That is what I would try to do rather than switch-up the starting unit.

[Celtic Fan Forever]

Through 6 rounds, here are the Los Angeles Lakers

C: Nikola Jokic
F: Chris Webber
F: Ron Artest
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Damian Lillard

Bench: Pascal Siakam

I think we've addressed a lot of defensive concerns with DPOY Artest adding a lot of toughness to this team. Siakam slots in as a great two way combo forward off the bench. Still probably looking to add some defense off the bench at the 1 and 5 spot, but I like the way this team is coming together.

So much playmaking and shooting in the starting lineup with good enough defense (young Kobe was an incredible defender, Webber was underrated defensively, and Jokic is big, strong and smart). I think, to answer an earlier question, Kobe will have no problem sharing the ball and getting along with these guys. None of the players on my team demand the ball (Lillard's usage is only so high because he doesn't have any teammates). I love the idea of Jokic and Webber in a high low game, with their incredible passing freeing up a bunch of opportunities for Dame and Kobe. And Ron can do all the dirty work.

[Who]

Through 6 rounds, here are the Los Angeles Lakers

C: Nikola Jokic
F: Chris Webber
F: Ron Artest
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Damian Lillard

Bench: Pascal Siakam

I have a contrarian / extreme viewpoint on Ron Artest.

I ruled him out as a draft candidate from the outset because I do not trust his offensive IQ. He is a ball stopper (holds the ball too long before making decisions), he has a bad shot selection, is reliant on his post-up opportunities to be scorer and I plain just do not trust him to accept a small role in an offense.

I like Artest better offensively on bad offenses where he can have a lot of the ball and do what he likes. The better the offense he is on the more problematic he becomes IMO.

So given that, I much prefer Siakam as a starter and moving Artest to a low minute bench role. Siakam is perfect for your team. He is quick footed, will create transition offense, will move without the ball, shares the ball at all times, has no ego, can shoot better, can defend very well (better team defender than Artest), rebounds better than Artest. He does a lot of things better than Artest. Artest is a better one-on-one defender but Siakam is better at everything else.



EDIT: I don't know if many others would share my views on Artest though so I wouldn't worry much about it. It is more of an extreme view.

[action781]

Through 6 rounds, here are the Los Angeles Lakers

C: Nikola Jokic
F: Chris Webber
F: Ron Artest
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Damian Lillard

Bench: Pascal Siakam

I have a contrarian / extreme viewpoint on Ron Artest.

I ruled him out as a draft candidate from the outset because I do not trust his offensive IQ. He is a ball stopper (holds the ball too long before making decisions), he has a bad shot selection, is reliant on his post-up opportunities to be scorer and I plain just do not trust him to accept a small role in an offense.

I like Artest better offensively on bad offenses where he can have a lot of the ball and do what he likes. The better the offense he is on the more problematic he becomes IMO.

So given that, I much prefer Siakam as a starter and moving Artest to a low minute bench role. Siakam is perfect for your team. He is quick footed, will create transition offense, will move without the ball, shares the ball at all times, has no ego, can shoot better, can defend very well (better team defender than Artest), rebounds better than Artest. He does a lot of things better than Artest. Artest is a better one-on-one defender but Siakam is better at everything else.



EDIT: I don't know if many others would share my views on Artest though so I wouldn't worry much about it. It is more of an extreme view.

I agree with your assessment of Artest's offense that it drags the team's offense down.  Not as much as it seems you think, but it will.  And the offense otherwise is just so seamless.

However, a lot of teams in this league are going to heavily utilize SF's in their offense.  Artest can lock down those guys 1-1.  Even if he's not the team defender that Siakam is, that 1-1 lock down defense on guys like Melo, Lebron, Durant, Kawhi is very valuable.  He won't eliminate them, but he will hold them to below average offense.

I like Siakam a lot as a 5th starter (at PF though) or a 6th man in this game.  I'd keep him as a 6th man.  Creates energy with his defense.

EDIT:  By the way CFF, I hate how much I love your Lakers team.  Its a really good team.  I don't have many suggestions and would recommend you stay on your course.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Oklahoma City thru Round 6.

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Paul George
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C : Ben Wallace

Bench:

Bradley Beal

The Jrue Holiday selection in the 5th might be questionable, especially since I moved up to get him too, but I love his fit along with this group. He adds extra scoring, some playmaking and versatilty. With his elite defense, we now have a good to elite defensive team.

Bradley Beal, to be honest, is a panic pick. I just though, who else I can pick coming from the bench that could be a spark plug offensively that has some form of defense, and he popped the first thing in mind.

Definitely didn't get a MVP level player, which is what some think is a concern, but I see enough talent, with championship winning experience and plenty of things to offer on both sides of the floor with what we have right now.

[RPGenerate]

Oklahoma City thru Round 6.

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Paul George
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C : Ben Wallace

Bench:

Bradley Beal

The Jrue Holiday selection in the 5th might be questionable, especially since I moved up to get him too, but I love his fit along with this group. He adds extra scoring, some playmaking and versatilty. With his elite defense, we now have a good to elite defensive team.

Bradley Beal, to be honest, is a panic pick. I just though, who else I can pick coming from the bench that could be a spark plug offensively that has some form of defense, and he popped the first thing in mind.

Definitely didn't get a MVP level player, which is what some think is a concern, but I see enough talent, with championship winning experience and plenty of things to offer on both sides of the floor with what we have right now.

Bradley Beal is a great panic pick. I was planning on taking him with my pick that round as well. I would say that Jrue Holiday could have been gotten later on, and you could have just picked another bench player this round. However, I understand that everyone's tier lists are so different it's hard to get a read on where players go. The rest of your team is really well put together though, even without an MVP.

[RPGenerate]

Now for my team: Denver Nuggets:
PG: Gary Payton/Kyrie Irving
SG: Rip Hamilton
SF: Carmelo Anthony/Glenn Robinson
PF: Draymond Green
C: Tim Duncan/DeMarcus Cousins

If anyone has any suggestions/critiques, please let me know! If you feel like giving specific suggestions, you can pm me. I'd definitely appreciate it!

I think I'm just keep reposting this after every couple of rounds, just changing with each player I select.

[Donoghus]

Now for my team: Denver Nuggets:
PG: Gary Payton/Kyrie Irving
SG: Rip Hamilton
SF: Carmelo Anthony
PF: Draymond Green
C: Tim Duncan

If anyone has any suggestions/critiques, please let me know! If you feel like giving specific suggestions, you can pm me. I'd definitely appreciate it!

I think I'm just keep reposting this after every couple of rounds, just changing with each player I select.

Definitely went ying & yang on the PG position.  It's a good thing. 

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Oklahoma City thru Round 6.

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Paul George
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C : Ben Wallace

Bench:

Bradley Beal

The Jrue Holiday selection in the 5th might be questionable, especially since I moved up to get him too, but I love his fit along with this group. He adds extra scoring, some playmaking and versatilty. With his elite defense, we now have a good to elite defensive team.

Bradley Beal, to be honest, is a panic pick. I just though, who else I can pick coming from the bench that could be a spark plug offensively that has some form of defense, and he popped the first thing in mind.

Definitely didn't get a MVP level player, which is what some think is a concern, but I see enough talent, with championship winning experience and plenty of things to offer on both sides of the floor with what we have right now.

Against any team in this draft, will they have the best player on the court? I like your team and the fit together, but none of them seem truly elite.

[Who]

Oklahoma City thru Round 6.

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Paul George
SF: Paul Pierce
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge
C : Ben Wallace

Bench:

Bradley Beal

I love the Bradley Beal pickup. I think he'll make a great 6th man offensive spark-plug off the bench.

Jrue Holiday is one of those rock solid but unexceptional players. Those guys are valuable in a setup like this fantasy league because of their defense and well rounded they are. I like him too - over some bigger name PGs. I trust him more.

It is firmly Paul Pierce's team now. He is the most dynamic offensive player on the team. It's interesting to see the team take on his image.

Your team's defense is impressive. Very strong perimeter D with the excellent Ben Wallace (best defensive center in draft? I think so) anchoring the unit along with a solid huge frame L.Aldridge.