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overpaid or underpaid?

overpaid
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seems about right
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Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2018, 04:19:27 PM »

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I think it's less money than he would have made if he were to hit UFA next summer.  So I say it's a good deal.  The Celts pay less and Smart gets some long term security to protect against injury or whatever.

Good for both sides.
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Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2018, 04:30:38 PM »

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Underpaid.  Most guys in the mid-range of talent are getting $14-17M, just like he originally wanted.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2018, 04:40:05 PM »

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Also worth mentioning Horford will be off his contract after next season and I would be a bit surprised if he was back here for anything more than half his current contract. Honestly I think Horford would be thrilled with a 3 year 36 at age 34. If not, we would have someone cheaper there.
If Horford is opting out he's not getting less than 20 million AAV on whatever new deal he signs. I'd guess more along the lines of $25 million.

Frankly the AAV will depend on the length of the deal.  $12/mil per year is obviously way too low barring a huge meltdown this year, but the high teens is not as crazy if it’s a 5-year deal.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2018, 04:45:20 PM »

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Also worth mentioning Horford will be off his contract after next season and I would be a bit surprised if he was back here for anything more than half his current contract. Honestly I think Horford would be thrilled with a 3 year 36 at age 34. If not, we would have someone cheaper there.
If Horford is opting out he's not getting less than 20 million AAV on whatever new deal he signs. I'd guess more along the lines of $25 million.

Frankly the AAV will depend on the length of the deal.  $12/mil per year is obviously way too low barring a huge meltdown this year, but the high teens is not as crazy if it’s a 5-year deal.
I don't see him opting out of 30 million to sign a 5 year deal that only pays him in the teens myself.

I think the C's would love that though as it'd really make life easier on them.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2018, 04:46:15 PM »

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Also worth mentioning Horford will be off his contract after next season and I would be a bit surprised if he was back here for anything more than half his current contract. Honestly I think Horford would be thrilled with a 3 year 36 at age 34. If not, we would have someone cheaper there.
If Horford is opting out he's not getting less than 20 million AAV on whatever new deal he signs. I'd guess more along the lines of $25 million.

Frankly the AAV will depend on the length of the deal.  $12/mil per year is obviously way too low barring a huge meltdown this year, but the high teens is not as crazy if it’s a 5-year deal.
I don't see him opting out of 30 million to sign a 5 year deal that only pays him in the teens myself.

I don’t think it’s likely.  I just said not as crazy.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2018, 05:06:59 PM »

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A very good defensive player but for a guy who only shot 36% from the field and 30% from 3 pt range and who apparently is never going to get any better at offense that is a LOT of money.

The Celtics obviously value him defensively; just glad they didn't give him any more money than they did.

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Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2018, 05:15:20 PM »

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Overpay. A little more than slight overpay but not a gross one.

I would have loved to not exceed 4yrs/36-40 and top out at 4yr /48.

So the 52 is up there for me.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2018, 05:15:23 PM »

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Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2018, 05:17:22 PM »

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A very good defensive player but for a guy who only shot 36% from the field and 30% from 3 pt range and who apparently is never going to get any better at offense that is a LOT of money.

The Celtics obviously value him defensively; just glad they didn't give him any more money than they did.

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Despite his horrific shooting, he is still somehow a net gain for the team...  If Smart even becomes a slightly below average shooter instead of a well below average shooter, he is worth this contract.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2018, 06:20:12 PM »

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Slight overpay but Marcus is what adds a lot of our grit and leadership on the team.  So he may be worth it.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2018, 06:22:51 PM »

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Neither.  I feel it is a fair contract for all parties.  Marcus gets security of being set for life.  The Celtics get the identity of their team secured for 4 years.  Plus he's a great contract for a trade down the road as well if a superstar becomes available at a time 3-4 years from now to match salary.  Great win for everyone.

This exactly!   C's needed a solid mid-level contract to trade if needed. And basically... it's about what Smart is worth.

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2018, 06:30:47 PM »

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A very good defensive player but for a guy who only shot 36% from the field and 30% from 3 pt range and who apparently is never going to get any better at offense that is a LOT of money.

The Celtics obviously value him defensively; just glad they didn't give him any more money than they did.

MikeB  Celtics fan for 55 years

Despite his horrific shooting, he is still somehow a net gain for the team...  If Smart even becomes a slightly below average shooter instead of a well below average shooter, he is worth this contract.

I think one reality is --- he's going to shoot less.   Marcus is not playing for a contract and doesn't have to prove he can shoot. And, he will not need to be the go-to guy on offense as (amazingly enough) he had to be from time to time last year.

If Marcus can return to 80% from the FT line, that will be a great plus. 

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2018, 06:39:20 PM »

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Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2018, 06:49:27 PM »

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TP for answer....
When is the earliest the cba allows us to trade Smart?

Re: Smart's new contract: overpaid or underpaid?
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2018, 06:54:26 PM »

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TP for answer....
When is the earliest the cba allows us to trade Smart?

Edit: I’m pretty sure it’s Jan. 15th
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