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Title: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
Anyone watching?

Arsenal vs Besiktas right now. Man, that atmosphere is electric.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: D.o.s. on August 19, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Not watching, but keenly interested in the outcome.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
Demba Ba almost scored on a volley, man twice already. He's making a mark on this game.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 03:02:00 PM
Alexi Sanches is becoming a one man show in this match. Dictating every Arsenal attack so far.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 03:16:47 PM
Copenhagen and Bayer 04 are having a shootout early. Entertaining match as well.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 03:28:37 PM
Now 3-2 Leverkusen, it's just the first half.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 03:31:58 PM
Demba Ba just wasted a good chance. Kicked it wide left with only one guy defending behind him.

Giroud also missed a good chance, could not connect on a volley.

Wow.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 19, 2014, 03:36:05 PM
Giroud is such a donkey. I don't know who's worse, him or Sanogo.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 03:50:12 PM
Giroud is such a donkey. I don't know who's worse, him or Sanogo.

Yes.

Chambers has been very good, though. Looking like a good signing. But Lord, Giroud...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 03:51:35 PM
Besiktas missed yet another chance. Gosh darn, how many of these would Arsenal would give away...?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 19, 2014, 04:05:49 PM
Giroud is such a donkey. I don't know who's worse, him or Sanogo.

Yes.

Chambers has been very good, though. Looking like a good signing. But Lord, Giroud...
Agree about Chambers. Most of the team has been poor today.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 04:15:39 PM
Giroud is really driving me nuts. Why is he still on the pitch. A counter attack ended in a Giroud give away...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 04:24:28 PM
Wow.

Aaron Ramsey gets sent off from a hold., two yellow cards.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 19, 2014, 04:32:32 PM
DANG! Oxlade-Chamberlain's strike off the bar.

My LORD! Good save by the Besiktas keeper tho, I didnt even saw he saved it until the replay.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 02:44:53 PM
2nd Leg of Arsenal - Besiktas on right now.

No Giroud, Alexis Sanches playing striker. Very interesting.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 03:33:16 PM
Goal Alexis Sanchez!

Struck it past the keeper after getting the ball off a scramble.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 27, 2014, 03:34:19 PM
I thought Löw already showed everyone why Özil is hopeless on the wing. He won’t really defend, make runs behind the fullback and crossing isn't his strong point. He was terrible for most of the WC there.

Thank goodness for Alexis.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 03:36:04 PM
I thought Löw already showed everyone why Özil is hopeless on the wing. He won’t really defend, make runs behind the fullback and crossing isn't his strong point. He was terrible for most of the WC there.

Thank goodness for Alexis.

Agree. Why is he in the wing yet again? He's being wasted and should move in the Center. Put Campbell in the wing and bring Ozil as the attacking Central Mid.

We're still lucky. That Debuchy tackle should have been a penalty.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 27, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
I thought Löw already showed everyone why Özil is hopeless on the wing. He won’t really defend, make runs behind the fullback and crossing isn't his strong point. He was terrible for most of the WC there.

Thank goodness for Alexis.

Agree. Why is he in the wing yet again? He's being wasted and should move in the Center. Put Campbell in the wing and bring Ozil as the attacking Central Mid.

We're still lucky. That Debuchy tackle should have been a penalty.
Yeah, he's a peripheral option there as opposed to the primary one.

Some angles make it look like it was a penalty,  some don't. I really don't know. Oh, well.  :)
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 03:47:08 PM
I thought Löw already showed everyone why Özil is hopeless on the wing. He won’t really defend, make runs behind the fullback and crossing isn't his strong point. He was terrible for most of the WC there.

Thank goodness for Alexis.

Agree. Why is he in the wing yet again? He's being wasted and should move in the Center. Put Campbell in the wing and bring Ozil as the attacking Central Mid.

We're still lucky. That Debuchy tackle should have been a penalty.
Yeah, he's a peripheral option there as opposed to the primary one.

Some angles make it look like it was a penalty,  some don't. I really don't know. Oh, well.  :)

The Wilshire challenge was a good call. It seemed like he didnt even touch the player at all and just fell.

We got away with Debuchy though. Challenged way late, no ball on the attacking player. That should have been a penalty, and a second yellow for Mathieu, and we got bailed out.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
Now Debuchy has been red carded. Not good.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
Arsenal prevails!

Bad officiating throughout, with Arsenal probably reaping the benefits. Chances after chances missed by Demba Ba, bad defending almost got them done.

But a win is a win. See you in the Group Stage.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: letsgoblue86 on August 27, 2014, 04:45:22 PM
Entertaining game, except for the officiating.  Looked like the NBA out there.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 04:46:43 PM
Entertaining game, except for the officiating.  Looked like the NBA out there.

Oh yeah. it was bad for both sides. Arsenal just probably got the better side of the coin.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 27, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
Not a game between two big teams but the story of the round has to be Ludogorets playing Steaua Bucharest. Ludogorets' goalkeeper was sent off just before the penalty shoot out. Their central defender was forced to be goalkeeper for the penalties. Scores the first one that he took and saved two more to take his team through.

Now that is footballing history.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 27, 2014, 08:15:19 PM
Not a game between two big teams but the story of the round has to be Ludogorets playing Steaua Bucharest. Ludogorets' goalkeeper was sent off just before the penalty shoot out. Their central defender was forced to be goalkeeper for the penalties. Scores the first one that he took and saved two more to take his team through.

Now that is footballing history.

Cant believe I missed that... Hope there's highlights of it, will definitely want to see it.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on August 28, 2014, 06:56:36 AM
I heard about this on the radio this morning.. I 100% agree ... Footballing history.

I watched Ath Bilbao vs Napoli..... Another piece of history.. Not the game itself but the fact that Athletic can compete is such a high level with a Basque only players
The new San Mames is A M A Z I N G !!!!
I think that it`s not as scary as the old one was though.... Atl Bilbao deserved to qualify. Napoli didn`t do much and happened to score first.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Can someone tell.me when the draw will be?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on August 28, 2014, 12:56:27 PM
You ve just missed it

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2015/draws/index.html
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: boscel33 on August 28, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
It's odd not seeing Man-U in this!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2014, 02:52:31 PM
Wow. Group D.

Nice one Arsenal. Get lucky to get into the Group Stage, get placed probably in the toughest group.

It's odd not seeing Man-U in this!

It's odd seeing Liverpool in this.  ;D
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on August 28, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
Man City and Bayern in the same group again. Oh wow, Roma in that group too. Tough group.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 28, 2014, 03:16:53 PM
Man City and Bayern in the same group again. Oh wow, Roma in that group too. Tough group.

How good is CSKA Moscow? I have researched and found out they are the Russian League champions. They are in the same group. I assume they are no pushovers, but I have no clue if they're good or not (good meaning in the same class  as frequent Champions League clubs).
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 28, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
Wow. Group D.

Nice one Arsenal. Get lucky to get into the Group Stage, get placed probably in the toughest group.

It's odd not seeing Man-U in this!

It's odd seeing Liverpool in this.  ;D

Glad Arsenal got a tough draw. Sick of seeing fourth best teams in their league get the red carpet treatment just because of what league they are in.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 28, 2014, 03:42:00 PM
Well, I'm relieved, Arsenal's group this year is easier than last year. They're better than Galatasaray and Anderlecht and Dortmund has gotten worse. I'd rather be in Chelsea's group, but I'm not even worried. Second or first should be easy.

But lol at City. I don't have much hope for their survival.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 28, 2014, 08:47:44 PM
Well, I'm relieved, Arsenal's group this year is easier than last year. They're better than Galatasaray and Anderlecht and Dortmund has gotten worse. I'd rather be in Chelsea's group, but I'm not even worried. Second or first should be easy.

But lol at City. I don't have much hope for their survival.

Better than Galatasaray? Not on the evidence of their first two games...

Manchester City get a tough draw, boo hoo hoo. The most financially doped team in sporting history will get sympathy from nobody when they go out :)
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 29, 2014, 12:42:57 AM
Well, I'm relieved, Arsenal's group this year is easier than last year. They're better than Galatasaray and Anderlecht and Dortmund has gotten worse. I'd rather be in Chelsea's group, but I'm not even worried. Second or first should be easy.

But lol at City. I don't have much hope for their survival.

Better than Galatasaray? Not on the evidence of their first two games...

Manchester City get a tough draw, boo hoo hoo. The most financially doped team in sporting history will get sympathy from nobody when they go out :)

No one asked you to have a cry for us.  We should be just fine, if we play up to our usual standard.  If Roma finishes above us to qualify for the knock-out stages, it will have surely earned that trip. 

You know, some might submit that 'financial doping' means different things to different folks.  I have yet to see Man City splurge 60 million on a di Maria, 50 million on a Luiz, 80 million on a CR, 86 million on a Bale, 58 million on a Falcao, etc.  That's British pounds, not euros...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on August 29, 2014, 03:10:26 AM
Mani may not have paid 80m for a single player but not that they don`t spend as much  the other big spenders ...

Adebayor 25m
Tevez 47m
Yaya Toure 26m
D Silva 24m 

Balotteli 24m
Milner 26m
Dzeko 27m

Fernadinho 30m

Negredo 20m
Jovetic 22m

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 29, 2014, 07:07:38 AM
Mani may not have paid 80m for a single player but not that they don`t spend as much  the other big spenders ...

Adebayor 25m
Tevez 47m
Yaya Toure 26m
D Silva 24m 

Balotteli 24m
Milner 26m
Dzeko 27m

Fernadinho 30m

Negredo 20m
Jovetic 22m


Here's a fresh article for you:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2735780/Manchester-United-expensive-squad-assembled-Premier-League.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2735780/Manchester-United-expensive-squad-assembled-Premier-League.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)

Here's a quickie from a graphic at that page:


BIG FIVE SQUAD TRANSFER FEES

Manchester United £401.2m
Manchester City £344.15m
Chelsea £341.8m
Liverpool £245.8m
Arsenal £209.5m



Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on August 29, 2014, 08:14:24 AM
And your point is....?

Cause the way I understand this man city in the euro top5  in splurging money.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 29, 2014, 08:16:24 AM
And your point is....?

Cause the way I understand this man city in the euro top5  in splurging money.

My point?  Just some material facts for folks to chew on.  Sorry if you can't handle that... :'(
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: krumeto on August 29, 2014, 08:45:51 AM
Man City and Bayern in the same group again. Oh wow, Roma in that group too. Tough group.

How good is CSKA Moscow? I have researched and found out they are the Russian League champions. They are in the same group. I assume they are no pushovers, but I have no clue if they're good or not (good meaning in the same class  as frequent Champions League clubs).

They are a good experienced squad that almost never gets very far in this tournament. Think Atlanta Hawks. Very capable of upsetting some of the other teams in Moscow, but 0% chance for getting out of this tough group, IMO.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Adelaide Celt on August 29, 2014, 10:32:16 AM
Couldn't have asked for a more favourable group as a Chelsea fan. No excuses whatsoever if they don't get through.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on August 29, 2014, 01:43:51 PM
And your point is....?

Cause the way I understand this man city in the euro top5  in splurging money.

My point?  Just some material facts for folks to chew on.  Sorry if you can't handle that... :'(

I am so bright so could you explain how your material proves that MN city doesn t spend - overpay as much as PSG or real?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yb2 on August 29, 2014, 04:31:28 PM
Funny to see people think that BPL has good teams and that Arsenal has a following. You know, there are other teams and leagues out there with better football and better teams. Eventhought I'm not a big BPL, Man city is waaaaaaay better than arsenal and it's all thanks to their coach. Wenger is an old French guy who lucked out to be handed an amazing generation of players 14 years ago and thinks he is SAF. Jose is ten times the coach he his (and I hate JM). AW can't motivate his players (like JM) can't educate his players (jack wilshere cigs and Chicha scandal) and doesn't win... Keep dreaming arsenal fans
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 29, 2014, 04:53:31 PM
Funny to see people think that BPL has good teams and that Arsenal has a following. You know, there are other teams and leagues out there with better football and better teams. Eventhought I'm not a big BPL, Man city is waaaaaaay better than arsenal and it's all thanks to their coach. Wenger is an old French guy who lucked out to be handed an amazing generation of players 14 years ago and thinks he is SAF. Jose is ten times the coach he his (and I hate JM). AW can't motivate his players (like JM) can't educate his players (jack wilshere cigs and Chicha scandal) and doesn't win... Keep dreaming arsenal fans
Man City's success has more to due with their owner than their manager(s). Pelligrini's a good one, but he wouldn't have even won the title last season were it not for a huge implosion by Liverpool. I have a pessimistic view of Mourinho because barring his stint at Porto and Inter, he typically requires huge funds to do anything.

Also, I'm curious what you mean by Wenger lucked out and got handed an amazing generation. He signed Henry, then a underachieving winger, from Juventus and converted him into a striker. As well as Bergkamp, Viera, Gilberto, Pirés, Lehmann. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure a single starting member of the Invincibles wasn't bought by Wenger. And he did it, while spending less than Chelsea or Man United.  :-\
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 29, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
And your point is....?

Cause the way I understand this man city in the euro top5  in splurging money.

My point?  Just some material facts for folks to chew on.  Sorry if you can't handle that... :'(

I am so bright so could you explain how your material proves that MN city doesn t spend - overpay as much as PSG or real?

My 'material' doesn't prove anything because it wasn't meant to, which was the gist of my previous posting you quoted.  Sometimes, posters post material which is merely a statement of material facts and not meant to bolster someone's position on a particular issue... ::)
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 29, 2014, 07:03:22 PM
Funny to see people think that BPL has good teams and that Arsenal has a following. You know, there are other teams and leagues out there with better football and better teams. Eventhought I'm not a big BPL, Man city is waaaaaaay better than arsenal and it's all thanks to their coach. Wenger is an old French guy who lucked out to be handed an amazing generation of players 14 years ago and thinks he is SAF. Jose is ten times the coach he his (and I hate JM). AW can't motivate his players (like JM) can't educate his players (jack wilshere cigs and Chicha scandal) and doesn't win... Keep dreaming arsenal fans

I think the root of Arsenal's problems is the composition of the squad.  It's a bit threadbare at key positions, probably because so much dosh was spent to construct the stadium.  Also, Kroenke has a certain way of doing business and Usmanov is sidelined as a large minority shareholder.  AW has also neglected pressing needs in his squad when making purchases.  The lack of a holding type or even a box-to-box mid is an ongoing problem.  There's been little depth on the backline and the striker options are still shockingly limited.

Don't know why AW doesn't make a serious play for Khedira, who would fill a massive hole...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yb2 on August 29, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
Bergkamp and all the defence was there before he was appointed. I give you that he smells good bargains like viera Henry .... But players flee him like the plague.  And like Sixth Man said, the team is too unbalanced. Toooooo many CM and AM not enough makeleles khediras (yes I'm a Real Madrid fan). In my opinion the ozil buy was baaaaad. I like Alexis for them, but giroud is not world class and Ochoa isn't all that. Plus, defence is weak. AW got so much used to not spending money that he doesn't know how to use it anymore
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 29, 2014, 09:18:05 PM
Wenger needs to look to George Graham for how to build a defence, and stop trying to go for 'goal of the season' intricate passing every time they have the ball.

Arsenal always play good passing football, but their opponents always know what's coming.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 29, 2014, 11:30:03 PM
Funny to see people think that BPL has good teams and that Arsenal has a following. You know, there are other teams and leagues out there with better football and better teams. Eventhought I'm not a big BPL, Man city is waaaaaaay better than arsenal and it's all thanks to their coach. Wenger is an old French guy who lucked out to be handed an amazing generation of players 14 years ago and thinks he is SAF. Jose is ten times the coach he his (and I hate JM). AW can't motivate his players (like JM) can't educate his players (jack wilshere cigs and Chicha scandal) and doesn't win... Keep dreaming arsenal fans

I think the root of Arsenal's problems is the composition of the squad.  It's a bit threadbare at key positions, probably because so much dosh was spent to construct the stadium.  Also, Kroenke has a certain way of doing business and Usmanov is sidelined as a large minority shareholder.  AW has also neglected pressing needs in his squad when making purchases.  The lack of a holding type or even a box-to-box mid is an ongoing problem.  There's been little depth on the backline and the striker options are still shockingly limited.

Don't know why AW doesn't make a serious play for Khedira, who would fill a massive hole...

Because he's asking for £200,000 per week wage, £70,000 more than Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez are making.

They probably didnt want to pay that much or he should be wearing an Arsenal kit already. Honestly, no one should.

Agree with the rest though. Still no top class DM in the lineup. Maybe he can put Chambers in there and see what happens.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 29, 2014, 11:46:04 PM
Funny to see people think that BPL has good teams and that Arsenal has a following. You know, there are other teams and leagues out there with better football and better teams. Eventhought I'm not a big BPL, Man city is waaaaaaay better than arsenal and it's all thanks to their coach. Wenger is an old French guy who lucked out to be handed an amazing generation of players 14 years ago and thinks he is SAF. Jose is ten times the coach he his (and I hate JM). AW can't motivate his players (like JM) can't educate his players (jack wilshere cigs and Chicha scandal) and doesn't win... Keep dreaming arsenal fans

I think the root of Arsenal's problems is the composition of the squad.  It's a bit threadbare at key positions, probably because so much dosh was spent to construct the stadium.  Also, Kroenke has a certain way of doing business and Usmanov is sidelined as a large minority shareholder.  AW has also neglected pressing needs in his squad when making purchases.  The lack of a holding type or even a box-to-box mid is an ongoing problem.  There's been little depth on the backline and the striker options are still shockingly limited.

Don't know why AW doesn't make a serious play for Khedira, who would fill a massive hole...

Because he's asking for £200,000 per week wage, £70,000 more than Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez are making.

They probably didnt want to pay that much or he should be wearing an Arsenal kit already. Honestly, no one should.

Agree with the rest though. Still no top class DM in the lineup. Maybe he can put Chambers in there and see what happens.

The idea of putting in a green youngster from Southampton who normally plays right or centre back at defensive midfield (and couldn't even get in their first team) is frankly awful. It's not a position for a youngster.

Wenger's defence simply isn't good enough to play without a decent holding midfielder. He needs to address one of these deficiencies at the least.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on August 30, 2014, 12:21:03 AM
I don't think Khedira is a top class defensive midfielder anyway. More of a box-to-box player than a true holding midfielder or destroyer type. A nice upgrade on Flamini but not enough to drastically change Arsenal's hopes of winning more silverware. Given the high transfer fee (?20mil reportedly) Real Madrid are demanding and the high wages ($200k! I didn't know that), I wouldn't pursue Khedira either.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 30, 2014, 12:26:23 AM
Xabi Alonso > Khedira.

Think Khedira's value might have inflated thanks to a successful World Cup and the bizarre opinion that a ton of extra height makes you a better defensive midfielder
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on August 30, 2014, 12:30:16 AM
Bergkamp and all the defence was there before he was appointed. I give you that he smells good bargains like viera Henry .... But players flee him like the plague.  And like Sixth Man said, the team is too unbalanced. Toooooo many CM and AM not enough makeleles khediras (yes I'm a Real Madrid fan). In my opinion the ozil buy was baaaaad. I like Alexis for them, but giroud is not world class and Ochoa isn't all that. Plus, defence is weak. AW got so much used to not spending money that he doesn't know how to use it anymore
Bergkamp was there before Wenger, although he didn't shine until the latter showed up. But every defender that started for the Invincible team: Cole, Lauren, Campbell and Toure, were acquired by Wenger. All of the previous ones like Winterburn, Adams, Dixon, Keown ect. had retired already.

Like Who said, Khedira isn't a defensive midfielder. He wouldn't solve the team's underlying problem: not enough coverage for the center backs. Arsenal already have Ramsey, Khedira's proclivity to make forward runs, like Ramsey, would result in the same problems Wenger eventually had with Song.

And bro, Ochoa isn't on Arsenal.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on August 30, 2014, 12:37:40 AM
Wenger is reluctant to sign another CB because Chambers has played so well in the first few games of the season and he doesn't want to bring in another CB who will take games away from Chambers and impede Chambers' development.

I don't think Wenger was planning on relying on Chambers to play a large role this year. More of a utility role and then a regular role further down the road. Wenger seemed quite certain to sign a replacement for Vermaelen a short while ago but Chambers has played so well in these first few games that Wenger has grown to trust him and believe him ready to play and contribute in a regular role. Even recommending Chambers to Hodgson as ready to play for English National Team.

I think that is a good stance to take when you have a talented young player available. Especially an English player. Someone who can be part of your core base for next 8-12 years (hopefully!). Definitely a risky decision to make but I think a good risk to take. Chambers has been very impressive for one so inexperienced.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 30, 2014, 12:41:06 AM
Sol Campbell is imho incredibly underrated as a central defender. He held that Arsenal defence together which on paper wasn't a patch on the previous back line and formed a partnership with Distin at Portsmouth which was like a stubborn blue wall.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on August 30, 2014, 12:45:28 AM
Wenger is reluctant to sign another CB because Chambers has played so well in the first few games of the season and he doesn't want to bring in another CB who will take games away from Chambers and impede Chambers' development.

I don't think Wenger was planning on relying on Chambers to play a large role this year. More of a utility role and then a regular role further down the road. Wenger seemed quite certain to sign a replacement for Vermaelen a short while ago but Chambers has played so well in these first few games that Wenger has grown to trust him and believe him ready to play and contribute in a regular role. Even recommending Chambers to Hodgson as ready to play for English National Team.

I think that is a good stance to take when you have a talented young player available. Especially an English player. Someone who can be part of your core base for next 8-12 years (hopefully!). Definitely a risky decision to make but I think a good risk to take. Chambers has been very impressive for one so inexperienced.

He makes a fine defender from what I have seen of him but playing him out of position at so young an age wouldn't do him any good.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 30, 2014, 01:30:24 AM
Xabi Alonso > Khedira.

Think Khedira's value might have inflated thanks to a successful World Cup and the bizarre opinion that a ton of extra height makes you a better defensive midfielder

Xabi Alonso was a great player.  He's still pretty impressive, but at 32, he doesn't have much left in the tank.  He's also on a big wage packet.  It will be interesting to see how he performs at Bayern.  With Martinez injured, Bayern saw a need that could be filled with an exceptionally heady veteran who has won many titles everywhere.  At this point, I would much rather have Khedira, 200K a week or not...

And yes, as many have pointed out, Khedira is a box-to-box.  But I think that given the massive physical black hole in the middle of Arsenal's midfield, he would be most helpful.  If he can avoid injuries, I'd take him over Ramsay (or Wilshere) any day.  They are nice young players, but really really inconsistent. 

Alex Song was a bust at Barca (gee, surprise!), but he had been playing quite well for Arsenal before he left.  He's available, I believe, for peanuts. 
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on August 30, 2014, 01:32:27 AM
Wenger is reluctant to sign another CB because Chambers has played so well in the first few games of the season and he doesn't want to bring in another CB who will take games away from Chambers and impede Chambers' development.

I don't think Wenger was planning on relying on Chambers to play a large role this year. More of a utility role and then a regular role further down the road. Wenger seemed quite certain to sign a replacement for Vermaelen a short while ago but Chambers has played so well in these first few games that Wenger has grown to trust him and believe him ready to play and contribute in a regular role. Even recommending Chambers to Hodgson as ready to play for English National Team.

I think that is a good stance to take when you have a talented young player available. Especially an English player. Someone who can be part of your core base for next 8-12 years (hopefully!). Definitely a risky decision to make but I think a good risk to take. Chambers has been very impressive for one so inexperienced.

He makes a fine defender from what I have seen of him but playing him out of position at so young an age wouldn't do him any good.

I strongly agree with this.  Why move Chambers now when he's beginning to enjoy success in another position?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on August 30, 2014, 09:44:34 AM
Funny to see people think that BPL has good teams and that Arsenal has a following. You know, there are other teams and leagues out there with better football and better teams. Eventhought I'm not a big BPL, Man city is waaaaaaay better than arsenal and it's all thanks to their coach. Wenger is an old French guy who lucked out to be handed an amazing generation of players 14 years ago and thinks he is SAF. Jose is ten times the coach he his (and I hate JM). AW can't motivate his players (like JM) can't educate his players (jack wilshere cigs and Chicha scandal) and doesn't win... Keep dreaming arsenal fans

I think the root of Arsenal's problems is the composition of the squad.  It's a bit threadbare at key positions, probably because so much dosh was spent to construct the stadium.  Also, Kroenke has a certain way of doing business and Usmanov is sidelined as a large minority shareholder.  AW has also neglected pressing needs in his squad when making purchases.  The lack of a holding type or even a box-to-box mid is an ongoing problem.  There's been little depth on the backline and the striker options are still shockingly limited.

Don't know why AW doesn't make a serious play for Khedira, who would fill a massive hole...

Because he's asking for £200,000 per week wage, £70,000 more than Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez are making.

They probably didnt want to pay that much or he should be wearing an Arsenal kit already. Honestly, no one should.

Agree with the rest though. Still no top class DM in the lineup. Maybe he can put Chambers in there and see what happens.

The idea of putting in a green youngster from Southampton who normally plays right or centre back at defensive midfield (and couldn't even get in their first team) is frankly awful. It's not a position for a youngster.

Wenger's defence simply isn't good enough to play without a decent holding midfielder. He needs to address one of these deficiencies at the least.

He's actually the one of a few bright spot against Besiktas during the qualifying. I think he can do well.

If he can mold a winger Thierry Henry to be a world class striker, its safe to say that Wenger can do the same with Chambers as a holding midfielder.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 02:34:52 PM
Who's watching right now?

Arsenal - Dortmund is heading the lineup. No Debuchy for Arsenal, subbing in a young Bellerin in his place. Interesting.

Any upsets you guys think will happen?

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
Ciro Immobile just ran over the Arsenal defense.

Wow.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on September 16, 2014, 03:37:09 PM
Welbeck is a complete donkey.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
Welbeck is a complete donkey.

Bellerin and Arteta we're being donkeys.

I think Welbeck is doing okay. Could do more, but doing okay.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Vox_Populi on September 16, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
Welbeck is a complete donkey.

Bellerin and Arteta we're being donkeys.

I think Welbeck is doing okay. Could do more, but doing okay.
Agreed. I'd also add Sánchez and Özil to this list. But Welbeck had a golden chance and he didn't even hit the target. He can't do that when Arsenal barely have possession.

Ah, well. It was always likely they would lose to Dortmund. But doing so without Reus or Gündo?an is disappoint.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: letsgoblue86 on September 16, 2014, 03:47:42 PM
Liverpool game is the most intriguing right now, hope they lose  ;D
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 03:49:51 PM
Welbeck is a complete donkey.

Bellerin and Arteta we're being donkeys.

I think Welbeck is doing okay. Could do more, but doing okay.
Agreed. I'd also add Sánchez and Özil to this list. But Welbeck had a golden chance and he didn't even hit the target. He can't do that when Arsenal barely have possession.

Ah, well. It was always likely they would lose to Dortmund. But doing so without Reus or Gündo?an is disappoint.

They're just being completely outplayed. I know Dortmund is tough, but they are making it too easy.

Edit:

They just scored again, Dang it.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 03:59:15 PM
Aubameyang is FAST, man...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 04:15:00 PM
Holy Lord, Mikel Arteta is just brainfarting all over the pitch...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 16, 2014, 04:19:32 PM
In other news, Atletico Madrid is being killed by Olympiacos 3-1.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on September 17, 2014, 06:26:38 AM
I watched the game hoping for an Atleti win cause i really really hate olympiacos ....

I was bitterly disappointed obviously but i have to admit that olympiacos was very good. I can`t remember another team scoring more than twice against Simeone`s atletico... Only Real in the final....

BTW i`ve read last year in an article about Aubameyang  that he is faster than Usain Bolt in the first 40-50m! I find it a littlehard to believe but even if he is similarly fast is still very impressive ! 
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on September 17, 2014, 04:47:45 PM
Bayern Munich got away with one.

Clearly a penalty but was ignored. Although, that Boateng strike was fantastic.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on September 17, 2014, 07:47:52 PM
Bayern Munich got away with one.

Clearly a penalty but was ignored. Although, that Boateng strike was fantastic.

Unbelievable, that lummox JerBoa beats us with a wonder strike!  Well, I guess that's what happens when too many of your players are just standing around in the 90th minute.  Once
again, PLAY TO THE WHISTLE... :(
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on October 01, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
Danny Welbeck just dropped a hat trick on Galatasaray.

Outside of a Szczcesny Red Card, this was a total trashing.

How about that, Mesut Ozil in the middle and it worked wonders for everybody...

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: letsgoblue86 on October 01, 2014, 05:35:35 PM
Danny Welbeck just dropped a hat trick on Galatasaray.

Outside of a Szczcesny Red Card, this was a total trashing.

How about that, Mesut Ozil in the middle and it worked wonders for everybody...
Glad i wasn't watching that one, Madrid game was entertaining for sure.  Liverpool needs to get their ishh together
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on October 02, 2014, 01:25:13 AM
Ozil`s performance is no surprise to anyone.... He needs to be in the middle to be productive.

The refs were awful both days !

In Malme and Manchester didn`t call two clear penalties for Olimpiacos and City (but i enjoyed both no calls !!) and Real got 2 penalties that only Perez and the ref saw....
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Adelaide Celt on October 02, 2014, 04:09:37 AM
In Malme and Manchester didn`t call two clear penalties for Olimpiacos and City (but i enjoyed both no calls !!) and Real got 2 penalties that only Perez and the ref saw....

I thought the first penalty was probably fair enough but the second one was a pathetic dive by Ronaldo.

I'm happy Chelsea got a win but really should've scored 2 or 3 goals.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on October 02, 2014, 04:54:39 AM
Ozil`s performance is no surprise to anyone.... He needs to be in the middle to be productive.

The refs were awful both days !

In Malme and Manchester didn`t call two clear penalties for Olimpiacos and City (but i enjoyed both no calls !!) and Real got 2 penalties that only Perez and the ref saw....

Yes, he handled in the box to sweep the ball away so that's an automatic red and a penalty kick.  Except it didn't work out that way.  Oh well, I'm still annoyed that Pellegrini played two up top against Roma, even at home.  As far as I am concerned, against squads like Bayern and Roma you play one up top, home and away, in the CL.  Another blunder by Kompany, a great defender who has unfortunately become a bit gaffe-prone.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on October 02, 2014, 04:59:44 AM
I m not sure about the red card .. he didn`t handball on purpose but it was definately a penalty.

Since the WC the officiating has been "strange"
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on October 22, 2014, 03:17:12 PM
What a beautiful header from Benzema! 2-0 Real Madrid over Liverpool

Lovely 1-2 by Ronaldo and James Rodriguez for first goal. Picture perfect pass.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Adelaide Celt on November 25, 2014, 04:12:18 PM
Chelsea cruising, up 3-0 away against Schalke. Should top the group comfortably.

Man City take the lead on a penalty + red card then concede 2 goals just before half time to trail 2-1!

UPDATE: Chelsea take it 5-0. Schalke were ridiculously bad.

Where would Man City be without Aguero? Superb hat-trick gives them a 3-2 win.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on November 25, 2014, 05:27:08 PM
Chelsea cruising, up 3-0 away against Schalke. Should top the group comfortably.

Man City take the lead on a penalty + red card then concede 2 goals just before half time to trail 2-1!

UPDATE: Chelsea take it 5-0. Schalke were ridiculously bad.

Where would Man City be without Aguero? Superb hat-trick gives them a 3-2 win.

Not to take away an amazing showing from Kun Aguero, but that was more about Bayern not playing well than Aguero taking over.

All those goals were a result of being careless with the football, the penalty in the first half is probably the only one in which I think was created by him. The other two was just careless passing and handling and they took advantage.

But yes, that was an impressive showing nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on November 26, 2014, 10:57:33 AM
This is it for Liverpool and Arsenal. Can they get their acts together?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on November 26, 2014, 01:27:21 PM
Chelsea cruising, up 3-0 away against Schalke. Should top the group comfortably.

Man City take the lead on a penalty + red card then concede 2 goals just before half time to trail 2-1!

UPDATE: Chelsea take it 5-0. Schalke were ridiculously bad.

Where would Man City be without Aguero? Superb hat-trick gives them a 3-2 win.

Not to take away an amazing showing from Kun Aguero, but that was more about Bayern not playing well than Aguero taking over.

All those goals were a result of being careless with the football, the penalty in the first half is probably the only one in which I think was created by him. The other two was just careless passing and handling and they took advantage.

But yes, that was an impressive showing nonetheless.

As a City diehard, you're incorrect in asserting that two of the City goals were down to carelessness on Bayern's behalf.  In fact, all three goals were due to that, as Benatia's foul on Kun in the box was the result of an exceedingly careless decision.  ;)  Nevertheless, Kun pounced on those two opportunities in the second half the same way a stalking tiger pounces upon an unsuspecting ungulate...

Sure is nice to defeat Bayern for the second season in a row, especially after all the smack talk that Hoeness, Rumenigge, Beckenbauer, et al. have directed at us over the years. By the way, I wonder if Uli viewed the match in his prison cell?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on December 11, 2014, 01:34:00 AM
All of Germany's clubs through to the last 16, Liverpool have to settle for the Europa League, and I'm just waiting to see who'll be drawn with the task of knocking out the Arsenal, sparking their annual February collapse.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on December 15, 2014, 10:54:40 AM
Quote
Chelsea vs PSG
Barcelona vs Manchester City
Atletico Madrid vs Bayer Leverkusen
Borussia Dortmund vs Juventus
Real Madrid vs Schalke
Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk
Monaco vs Arsenal
FC Porto vs FC Basel

Brutal draw for Chelsea and Man City.

The PSG vs Chelsea tie is a toss up. Two top sides. Genuine contenders to win the tournament. Mourinho's out-coached Blanc last time around and I'd give Chelsea slight edge because of the two team's coaches rather than squad's overall talent which I think are comparable. I expect Barca to beat Man City. City lack organization in middle of the park. They will be exposed by top midfields of Europe which Barcelona has.

Arsenal are very lucky to get Monaco. The weakest #1 seed in the pool. Monaco have been very good defensively but Arsenal have enough firepower to find their way through to the quarter finals.

Dortmund and Juventus will be a very interesting matchup. I really like this Juve team but they repeatedly disappoint in Europe. Dortmund have done very well in Europe in recent years and should take care of business here. I am pulling for Juve though.

Atletico Madrid, Bayern, Real Madrid and Porto should win their matchups comfortably.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on December 15, 2014, 08:49:37 PM
Quote
Chelsea vs PSG
Barcelona vs Manchester City
Atletico Madrid vs Bayer Leverkusen
Borussia Dortmund vs Juventus
Real Madrid vs Schalke
Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk
Monaco vs Arsenal
FC Porto vs FC Basel

Brutal draw for Chelsea and Man City.

The PSG vs Chelsea tie is a toss up. Two top sides. Genuine contenders to win the tournament. Mourinho's out-coached Blanc last time around and I'd give Chelsea slight edge because of the two team's coaches rather than squad's overall talent which I think are comparable. I expect Barca to beat Man City. City lack organization in middle of the park. They will be exposed by top midfields of Europe which Barcelona has.

Arsenal are very lucky to get Monaco. The weakest #1 seed in the pool. Monaco have been very good defensively but Arsenal have enough firepower to find their way through to the quarter finals.

Dortmund and Juventus will be a very interesting matchup. I really like this Juve team but they repeatedly disappoint in Europe. Dortmund have done very well in Europe in recent years and should take care of business here. I am pulling for Juve though.

Atletico Madrid, Bayern, Real Madrid and Porto should win their matchups comfortably.

I was up at 0300 hrs to view the draw live.  Barca again?!  Must be groundhog day - first we draw Bayern and CSKA in the group stage for a second consecutive season, and then Barca in the Round of 16.  We've played them 5 times in recent years, so these two squads hold no surprises for each other.  I think City can win because we are much better organized in central midfield and defense in recent matches.  I am sure that Pellegrini will deploy two holding mids in front of the back four (Fernando and Fernandinho) and play one up top.  Should be a terrific tie, great football on display for neutrals. 

Chelsea vs. PSG is a great match-up, but I agree that Maureen is likely to outfox Blanc, just like last season...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on December 15, 2014, 09:15:50 PM
Quote
Chelsea vs PSG
Barcelona vs Manchester City
Atletico Madrid vs Bayer Leverkusen
Borussia Dortmund vs Juventus
Real Madrid vs Schalke
Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk
Monaco vs Arsenal
FC Porto vs FC Basel

Brutal draw for Chelsea and Man City.

The PSG vs Chelsea tie is a toss up. Two top sides. Genuine contenders to win the tournament. Mourinho's out-coached Blanc last time around and I'd give Chelsea slight edge because of the two team's coaches rather than squad's overall talent which I think are comparable. I expect Barca to beat Man City. City lack organization in middle of the park. They will be exposed by top midfields of Europe which Barcelona has.

Arsenal are very lucky to get Monaco. The weakest #1 seed in the pool. Monaco have been very good defensively but Arsenal have enough firepower to find their way through to the quarter finals.

Dortmund and Juventus will be a very interesting matchup. I really like this Juve team but they repeatedly disappoint in Europe. Dortmund have done very well in Europe in recent years and should take care of business here. I am pulling for Juve though.

Atletico Madrid, Bayern, Real Madrid and Porto should win their matchups comfortably.

Indeed. Not that Monaco is a pushover, but getting them compare to Real Madrid or Barcelona is a much easier task.

Chelseas and PSG should be fun. I like the David Luis story of that matchup.

I disagree with Porto though, I've seen a few games of Basel in that Real Madrid group and I think they're defensively legit.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 17, 2015, 02:32:11 PM
Anyone tuned in?

I wager a TP bet that PSG will win this match.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 17, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Anyone tuned in?

I wager a TP bet that PSG will win this match.

I think Chelsea should win. They have the more balanced team.

PSG lots of stars but not well built.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 17, 2015, 03:17:40 PM
I think PSG suffering lack of creativity tonight.

Veratti is only creative player in three man central midfield. Matuidi an all-rounder. David Luiz is a make-shift midfielder. He does some good things but a lot of bad things as well. Lacks discipline especially in his passing (over-aggressive, wasteful in possession).

Playing Cavani and Ibrahimovic together costs PSG another creative attacking midfielder. I do not like Cavani playing out wide. I think it is wasteful of his talent. I also think it fails to make best use of Ibrahimovic who would combine better with a true attacking midfielder. Lavezzi is a great dribbler but he makes a lot of bad decisions. Inconsistent with end product. I do not rate him highly.

Chelsea playing a very defensive lineup tonight with Fabregas as deep lying attacking midfielder with a box-to-box (Ramires) and holding midfielder (Matic) behind him. Chelsea keeping numbers right in front of back four. Very strong defensive formation. Hope to keep clean sheet and hit PSG on the counter. I think they have picked the right team to achieve this + I do not think PSG has enough creativity to pick apart such a tough defensive formation.

-- Why I expect Chelsea to do the job today and win over two legs.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 17, 2015, 03:24:48 PM
Beautiful. Three Chelsea defenders combine for goal off a set-piece. John Terry collects semi-cleared ball out on the wing, crosses it in, Gary Cahill with the back of his heel flicks it as Ivanovic gets free and smashes in the header. Three defenders ... all involved in and around penalty area for the goal.

3 defenders combine to score the goal!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 17, 2015, 03:26:37 PM
Who made that pass to Ivanovic? That was brilliant.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Quetzalcoatl on February 17, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
Anyone tuned in?

I wager a TP bet that PSG will win this match.

I think Chelsea should win. They have the more balanced team.

PSG lots of stars but not well built.

OKC are the PSG of the NBA
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 17, 2015, 03:33:14 PM
Who made that pass to Ivanovic? That was brilliant.
Gary Cahill
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 17, 2015, 03:35:18 PM
I think PSG suffering lack of creativity tonight.

Veratti is only creative player in three man central midfield. Matuidi an all-rounder. David Luiz is a make-shift midfielder. He does some good things but a lot of bad things as well. Lacks discipline especially in his passing (over-aggressive, wasteful in possession).

Playing Cavani and Ibrahimovic together costs PSG another creative attacking midfielder. I do not like Cavani playing out wide. I think it is wasteful of his talent. I also think it fails to make best use of Ibrahimovic who would combine better with a true attacking midfielder. Lavezzi is a great dribbler but he makes a lot of bad decisions. Inconsistent with end product. I do not rate him highly.

Chelsea playing a very defensive lineup tonight with Fabregas as deep lying attacking midfielder with a box-to-box (Ramires) and holding midfielder (Matic) behind him. Chelsea keeping numbers right in front of back four. Very strong defensive formation. Hope to keep clean sheet and hit PSG on the counter. I think they have picked the right team to achieve this + I do not think PSG has enough creativity to pick apart such a tough defensive formation.

-- Why I expect Chelsea to do the job today and win over two legs.

I think I'm seeing what youre saying.

It looks like PSG can't even break through.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 17, 2015, 03:58:53 PM
Nice goal by Cavani. Love headed goals from wide play.

Chelsea still in pole-position with the away goal here. A 1-1 result is good for them.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 17, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
Oh my goodness, great play by PSG. Beautiful footwork by Ibrahimovic. Fantastic save by Courtois and great block by Azpilicueta. Chelsea lucky there.

@65 minutes - Incredible effort by Cavani to chase down Ivanovic, win possession and draw the foul in a dangerous area of the pitch.

@75 minutes - I think Chelsea should bring on Oscar for Fabregas. Get more quickness and pressing into midfield. Cesc looks tired. I'd bring on Cuadrado for Willian too. Fresh legs and quickness to counter attack. Good defensive player too.

@80 minutes - wonderful close dribbling by Cavani to slip past a few defenders but hits the shot just a small bit wide. Pastore coming on. I love his game. I hope he leaves PSG and moves somewhere that will allow him to be a true #10. Build a team around him.

@90 minutes - Ibrahimovic coming close again with the header. Impressive getting on the end of that cross.

Mission accomplished for Chelsea. A goal-scoring draw. Ahead on away goals.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 17, 2015, 04:39:41 PM
Chelsea should be happy with this result. So many chances for PSG in the second half and none went in. The defending got a bit lackluster there.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 17, 2015, 04:44:33 PM
Wow. Shaktar Donetsk manage to get a 0-0 draw against Bayern Munich. That's something I didn't see coming.

Edit:

Xabi Alonso Red Carded as well. Pretty solid result for Shaktar.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on February 19, 2015, 05:38:20 AM
Although they are pretty much eliminated i liked Schalke .... Considering they played with a teeanger as a keeper , Draxler out , Farfan out, Huntelaar out... They put a solid efford out there and deserved a goal
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 19, 2015, 08:15:15 AM
Those pink Real Madrid jerseys were rotten.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 11:09:42 AM
Barcelona - Man City. Dortmund - Juventus.

There's goes productivity for today.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 24, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
Barcelona - Man City. Dortmund - Juventus.

There's goes productivity for today.
Really bummed I won't be able to watch these today.  This is when afternoon classes suck.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 03:19:55 PM
Too much Luis Suarez for City. Just way too much...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 03:32:02 PM
Juve up 2-1.

Beautiful ball by Paul Pogba, passing it thru two defenders right in Morata's feet for the finish. Beautiful.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 24, 2015, 03:42:40 PM
Too much Luis Suarez for City. Just way too much...
Ya I think the fat lady is singing for City, just gonna watch the Juve second half.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 03:57:12 PM
Aguero COMPLETELY missed an open Edin Dzeko or just didn't really want to give the ball. Wow. That's probably the best chance they had to score the entire game
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 03:57:38 PM
Too much Luis Suarez for City. Just way too much...
Ya I think the fat lady is singing for City, just gonna watch the Juve second half.

Yeah. Juve - Dortmund has been much more entertaining.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 04:11:58 PM
City finally broke thru.

The little big man, Kun Aguero, just beats everyone to the box, brilliant first touch, great finish.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 24, 2015, 04:36:24 PM
Ah... Pablo Zabaleta with a costly penalty. Pretty pointless challenge what he did there...

Edit: Joe Hart SAVED the Messi penalty. Keeping City within distance atleast on the second leg.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Sixth Man on February 24, 2015, 07:12:36 PM
Another blunder by Kompany and an incredibly stupid penalty conceded by Zabs (thanks, Leo, for the terrible penalty and follow-up).  Once again, Pellegrini plays two up top against an offensive powerhouse better at maintaining possession than we are...nothing learned, nothing achieved !!

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on February 25, 2015, 12:24:36 AM
Third match in a row a City player has been sent off v. Barçelona.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 25, 2015, 03:24:10 PM
Monaco go up 1-0 on Arsenal. Deflection on long range shot by Kondogbia.

Arsenal in trouble now. Monaco shutting them out defensively.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 03:55:41 PM
0-2 down. This sucks... Man...
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
Mertesacker, what the heck are you doing!?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 03:59:36 PM
Olivier Giroud's missed opportunity tells us all we need to know. We suck.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: letsgoblue86 on February 25, 2015, 04:07:01 PM
0-2 down. This sucks... Man...
Hasn't been a good day for the Gunners
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 25, 2015, 04:19:59 PM
Embarrassing performance by Arsenal. It's been a bad season all around. I expected Arsenal to take a step forward this year after good showing and FA Cup win last year. Added Sanchez. Looked prime to take another step forward. Did not happen.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 04:31:25 PM
Embarrassing performance by Arsenal. It's been a bad season all around. I expected Arsenal to take a step forward this year after good showing and FA Cup win last year. Added Sanchez. Looked prime to take another step forward. Did not happen.

Per Mertesacker happened.  I don't know this guy playing Captain for Arsenal, he's not Per that's for sure. Of course it's not just him, the injuries, the bad tactics in some games, but he has been the most glaring piece of mediocrity this year.

0-2 down. This sucks... Man...
Hasn't been a good day for the Gunners

You're being too nice, we flat out sucked today. Not only did we play poorly, we had the chances and couldn't even convert. This has to be atleast 1-2 if Giroud "magically" missed that open chance.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 04:32:47 PM
Got one, from OX!

Atleast subdued the damage.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 04:36:51 PM
The hero gave away the ball.

3-1 Monaco, this is over. Just when I thought we atleast reduced the damage.

Embarrassing.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on February 25, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
3-1 Monaco with three away goals.

Arsenal need to win 3-0 in Monaco to advance.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 04:39:38 PM
3-1 Monaco with three away goals.

Arsenal need to win 3-0 in Monaco to advance.

Yeah. Not gonna happen. This is over. Unbelievable how badly we performed today.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: makaveli on February 25, 2015, 04:47:07 PM
wenger and the germans - out please
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 25, 2015, 04:58:50 PM
wenger and the germans - out please

Wenger - No. I think he earned one more year.
Mertesacker - God YES! We need to move on.
Ozil - I won't judge him until he plays in his natural CM position first. Did not like his body language this game though.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: makaveli on February 26, 2015, 04:57:02 PM
wenger and the germans - out please

Wenger - No. I think he earned one more year.
Mertesacker - God YES! We need to move on.
Ozil - I won't judge him until he plays in his natural CM position first. Did not like his body language this game though.
what are you waiting for with arsen????
Per is terrible, falls down on every contact in the air, and this game he was  :-X
you nailed it with ozil, his body language is unbarable for me as a fan, sell him to man city or something.
Aleksis on the other hand, his body language is like, i will eat the [dang] ball, desire, passion and will all game long, no matter who hee is playing or what's the score. He is a keeper
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 10, 2015, 04:27:46 PM
Real Madrid can't defend. It's embarrassing to see them defend.

Edit: Good thing Cristiano is on form. Two headers already, from a great Coentrao cross. Everytime Shalke puts a scare, Ronaldo answers back.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 10, 2015, 05:28:56 PM
Schalke is one goal away from eliminating Real Madrid with 5 minutes + stoppage time. WOW. they outplayed Madrid the entire game.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 10, 2015, 05:37:59 PM
So Madrid is through, but they are being booed by their supporters. Dismal defending from Real.

Schalke took it literally to the final minute and a last gasp Benedikt Howedes strike that was saved. But overall, a sensational performance from Schalke.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on March 11, 2015, 04:27:55 AM
I agree.... Schalke put a very solid efford there despite they had all the odds against them. Typical germans :D

What makes it more imporessive is the number of youngsters in their lineup... 6 players 19-21 y.o.... wow !!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Otsje P on March 11, 2015, 04:33:11 AM
To bad the great volley of my boy Huntelaar in the first half didn't go in. Would have been nice to see him shoot his former team out of the Champions League.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: krumeto on March 11, 2015, 04:58:30 AM
Schalke just ran out of gas at the end, but boy what a game!

Real are the Lakers of European football - shiny, self entitled, free agent target place. Rooting against them is fun. I hope they get trashed next round.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on March 11, 2015, 12:38:22 PM
I don`t they run out of gas. They scored the 4th goal at the 85min and had another 2 good chances to score after that.

I`ve done some searching ... Schalke is the only team to score 4 goals at the second leg and fail to qualify
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
PSG - Chelsea today.

If PSG plays the same way they did the first leg, Chelsea will probably run out of luck.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 03:02:54 PM
PSG - Chelsea today.

If PSG plays the same way they did the first leg, Chelsea will probably run out of luck.
Matic back today for Chelsea. No soft midfield for PSG to beat up on.

I think PSG's best chance has already come and gone.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 03:45:23 PM
Chelsea playing interesting team. Oscar playing alongside Matic, Ramires and Fabregas. I wonder if Oscar will play out on right wing or if Mourinho will turn to his trusted 4-4-2 diamond formation. Try to pack that central area of the pitch.

At kick-off, Oscar starting centrally. Ah Ramires is out on the right side. Matic as defensive midfielder. Fabregas playing deep alongside Matic. Oscar attacking mid. 

Attacking start to this one. Both sides hitting balls into the box early.

Almost all of Chelsea's attacks are coming down this left hand side. Costa is spending most of his time over there looking to create 1-2s with Hazard and triangulation of play with other midfielders. Ignoring right side of the pitch. Oscar veering to the left as well. Ramires is right sided midfielder. Playing deep when Chelsea defend though.

PSG need to get a few more aerial balls into Ibrahimovic and Cavani. Maxwell was wasteful with a low cross when PSG had a lot of players in the box particularly Zlatan who was running in late unmarked. Pastore not really looking to get crosses in. Through balls and flicks. I love Pastore's game but he is not making good use of Cavani or Ibra thus far. Veratti is a beautiful player as always in midfield. Thiago Motta has been impressive so far.

Fast tempo to this. Lots of energy pressing. Both teams looked like scoring early but have cooled down a bit over last few minutes. Neither team figuring out how to beat other team's defense. Both team's defenses smarting up to what the other wants to do. Lot of possession in own half and an in midfield. Little possession in final third for either team. Neither team getting much penetration in final third.

Pastore wastes another possession. PSG had a runner through in counter attack and others looking to join. Pastore can't thread the pass through. Turns it over. Wasteful. Pastore not taking good care of the ball early. Given it away a bunch of times already. Only 27 minutes in. I think PSG need to take Pastore off. He is wrecking too many of their attacks.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 04:18:58 PM
Questionable Red Card given to Zlatan.

Wow. I thought him and Oscar went for the ball together, and there's not enough harm to warrant that Red Card.

PSG is in trouble.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 04:20:27 PM
Ah bummer.

Ibrahimovic gets a red card. A late tackle. Looked worse than it was. A 50-50 ball. Both players dive in. Zlatan a bit late. Fabregas gets their first. Zlatan tries to pull out. Still clips Oscar. Oscar makes a meal of it. Chelsea teammates surround referee and try to get Zlatan sent off and he does.

I don't know if ref should have given that red. It wasn't unreasonable but there wasn't malice there and it will ruin the game now. Pity.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 04:23:22 PM
Ah bummer.

Ibrahimovic gets a red card. A late tackle. Looked worse than it was. A 50-50 ball. Both players dive in. Zlatan a bit late. Fabregas gets their first. Zlatan tries to pull out. Still clips Fabregas. Fabregas makes a meal of it. Chelsea teammates surround referee and try to get Zlatan sent off and he does.

I don't know if ref should have given that red. It wasn't unreasonable but there wasn't malice there and it will ruin the game now. Pity.

I don't think its a red card either.  Zlatan was late, but theres not really a ton of harm, nor intent to harm. I think Oscar milked that contact as well. That ref just changed the game.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 04:28:21 PM
David Luiz and Diego Costa getting into it a couple of times now. I think that will favour Costa. He has better control of his temper than Luiz does. Costa likes to rile up opponents and get them to lose their cool. I think Costa will bait Luiz into a mistake(s).

Costa unlucky not to get a penalty there. Cavani clearly fouled him in the box.

Happy to see Veratti get a yellow card. Constantly fouling. Tugging at shirts. Every time I see him get close to someone he is needlessly pulling at the shirt, pushing, kicking. Not defending. Fouling all the time.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: makaveli on March 11, 2015, 04:35:57 PM
Questionable Red Card given to Zlatan.

Wow. I thought him and Oscar went for the ball together, and there's not enough harm to warrant that Red Card.

PSG is in trouble.
worst red card i've seen this year, and this is coming for a guy who hates Zlatan
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 04:50:09 PM
I don't like PSG's bench.

I think they need to make a change. I don't think Pastore is well suited to a counter attacking game. He is better with a tempo slow making clever touches and flicks. I think they need someone who can cover more ground. Make quick transitions in counter attacks. Join Cavani in attack from midfield. Get in goal scoring areas.

I look at PSG's bench and I do not see anyone that gives them that. Lavezzi is the closest but I don't think he does well in a match like this where space is at a premium. He doesn't do well against packed midfields. Needs space to use his speed.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 04:54:26 PM
I like Mourinho's halftime substitution. Moving Oscar out for Willian. Push Ramires deep alongside Matic to reinforce team's defense in front of backline. Let Fabregas play at tip of midfield. Give him two attacking players and Costa making runs. Try to hit PSG on the break as PSG push men forward to try and get the goal they need to go through.

Veratti should be sent off. Constantly fouling. Hacking. Shoving. Grabbing. It is ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 04:56:57 PM
I don't like PSG's bench.

I think they need to make a change. I don't think Pastore is well suited to a counter attacking game. He is better with a tempo slow making clever touches and flicks. I think they need someone who can cover more ground. Make quick transitions in counter attacks. Join Cavani in attack from midfield. Get in goal scoring areas.

I look at PSG's bench and I do not see anyone that gives them that. Lavezzi is the closest but I don't think he does well in a match like this where space is at a premium. He doesn't do well against packed midfields. Needs space to use his speed.

Haven't seen much at all from him, but what about Yohan Cabaye?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:01:22 PM
I don't like PSG's bench.

I think they need to make a change. I don't think Pastore is well suited to a counter attacking game. He is better with a tempo slow making clever touches and flicks. I think they need someone who can cover more ground. Make quick transitions in counter attacks. Join Cavani in attack from midfield. Get in goal scoring areas.

I look at PSG's bench and I do not see anyone that gives them that. Lavezzi is the closest but I don't think he does well in a match like this where space is at a premium. He doesn't do well against packed midfields. Needs space to use his speed.

Haven't seen much at all from him, but what about Yohan Cabaye?

Plays best in central area of the pitch as a passer organizing moves from deep. With Veratti and Motta, those duties are already well covered.

Not really a player for the attacking third. Slow. Limited dribbler. Sometimes played as an attacking midfielder for Newcastle but that is not really who he is. Better off as a central midfielder or holding midfielder.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
I cannot believe Cavani wasted that. Rounded the keeper and then hit the side of the goal.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:11:06 PM
PSG needs to keep pressing. Cavani created an attacking position just by being aggressive. At this point, what do they have to lose?

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:14:12 PM
You're right, Who.

Pastore has been playing poorly out there.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:16:52 PM
Cavani is a brilliant counter attacking player. Great work-ethic and determination. Physicality and athleticism. I wish PSG had a 2nd player who had similar qualities who could join him in attack either as attacking midfielder or as second striker.

PSG could still be so dangerous with 10 men if they had a 2nd guy to help carry some of the load alongside Cavani.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:24:14 PM
Gary Cahill again. This should be all but done unless Chelsea completely collapse.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:24:52 PM
Gary Cahill is a great finisher for a defender. 1-0 Chelsea.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
Lavezzi got a close one. Possibly the best chance PSG had all day. The attack seems to be still working. Just need a goal, really.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
David Luiz!!!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:29:08 PM
OH!

Of all the people who could score, it has to be David Luiz!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:31:01 PM
All the pressure is on Chelsea now. PSG can wait it out for extra time. Maybe penalties. Penalties would give them a fair shot at getting through.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:31:24 PM
Holy carp!

That was a brilliant header, I hope they replay it. That was a beauty. He got high, perfect technique, the shot was with power. No way to stop it.

It got even more exciting.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:33:12 PM
Costly mistake from Cavani, may haunt them on this free kick. Should have kept going even if he had no support on the counter, instead, gave it up on the midfield.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:34:59 PM
Diego Costa lucky not to get sent off for pushing Marquinhos to the ground.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:35:56 PM
Diego Costa lucky not to get sent off for pushing Marquinhos to the ground.

Sums up the refereeing today. A questionable red card and an even questionable decision to not book an obvious, malicious foul.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:42:32 PM
I kinda wish Cuadrado was selected instead of Willian. I think Cuadrado is the more creative attacking player. Better dribbler and one-on-one player. Scares defenders. Willian is a nice all-round attacking midfield with v.good defensive effort. Not often a match winner though.

I bet Mourinho is regretting subbing out Matic for Zouma. Zouma is great defensively but he gives you nothing in attack. Useless in possession. It's like playing 10 vs 10 in attack.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:43:20 PM
Hey, Who, can you help me out, please?

Goals in extra time by an away team still counts as an away goal right?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:45:31 PM
Hey, Who, can you help me out, please?

Goals in extra time by an away team still counts as an away goal right?
Yes -- a lot of people want them to change that rule though.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 05:47:31 PM
OH. What just happened?

Thiago Silva with a bonehead decision. Why raise your hand? Why?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 05:47:38 PM
Oh my god. How could you give away a stupid hand-ball like that in a game like this? In extra time? Unbelievable.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 06:07:44 PM
You have got to be kidding me. Every time I think this game is over ... PSG lead 3-3.

Happy to see Thiago Silva get a goal after giving away the dumb penalty.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 06:07:49 PM
Great save by Thiabut Courtois.

Even better finish by Silva, he redeemed himself.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 06:09:17 PM
Goals all from set pieces. Two corners for PSG. One corner and penalty for Chlesea.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 06:09:53 PM
You have got to be kidding me. Every time I think this game is over ... PSG lead 3-3.

Happy to see Thiago Silva get a goal after giving away the dumb penalty.

Totally redeemed himself. That must have felt good. Two headers he made was very good, on point, got robbed by Courtois. But the other header, my God. That could be the winner.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 06:17:09 PM
They fought back after that Zlatan sending off. They showed that they wanted it more, Chelsea was lethargic most of the game.

What a game!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 06:18:38 PM
Disappointed as a Chelsea fan but I don't think they deserved to go through. Bad performance. It was there to be taken and they failed to do the job.

Kudos to PSG. Great job to fight back continually throughout this match. Took a hell of an effort.

Tired of how negative Mourinho is in big games against quality opponents. Happy to attack and beat up the middle and lower pack of the Premier League but is so conservative and defensive minded against top teams in England and Europe. All this conspiracy talk with referees as well. Saying people are out to get his team. Tiresome.

The player's (Chelsea) behaviour tonight was embarrassing as well. Whinging and crying to referee. Begging for fouls. Trying to intimidate and influence referees. Diego Costa starting stuff with anybody and everybody in sight. Even with the team up in extra time. Doesn't stop. Keeps creating nonsense.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 06:28:05 PM
Who? How about a feedback...

Fox Sports 1 guys thinks that PSG would be better of without Ibrahimovic. You agree?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 06:33:25 PM
Who? How about a feedback...

Fox Sports 1 guys thinks that PSG would be better of without Ibrahimovic. You agree?

I think PSG are best off with one of Ibrahimovic / Cavani on the pitch rather than both.

I think they are better with Ibrahimovic than Cavani as sole striker. Cavani is in a better run of form at the moment but Zlatan is the better player.

PSG still have not found right balance in the side with both of them on the pitch. I think the team they played today in a 4-3-1-2 with Pastore in the hole is their best lineup with both guys up front. I'd like to see PSG give that group more time together. Develop chemistry and learn how to take full advantage of Pastore. If Pastore cannot claim spot, I'd like to see them bring in somebody (central attacking midfielder) to replace him in the summer.

I'd like to see Aurier play at right back instead of Marquinhos in the 4-3-2-1 as well. PSG need more attacking quality from the full backs if not playing with wingers.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 06:35:24 PM
Who? How about a feedback...

Fox Sports 1 guys thinks that PSG would be better of without Ibrahimovic. You agree?

I think PSG are best off with one of Ibrahimovic / Cavani on the pitch rather than both.

I think they are better with Ibrahimovic than Cavani as sole striker. Cavani is in a better run of form at the moment but Zlatan is the better player.

PSG still have not found right balance in the side with both of them on the pitch. I think the team they played today in a 4-3-1-2 with Pastore in the hole is their best lineup with both guys up front. I'd like to see PSG give that group more time together. Develop chemistry and learn how to take full advantage of Pastore. If Pastore cannot claim spot, I'd like to see them bring in somebody (central attacking midfielder) to replace him in the summer.

But who would you rather have on the two Zlatan or Cavani?

Edit: Saw it. LOL

Yeah, I think they're a creative CM away from being very potent.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 06:36:53 PM
Who? How about a feedback...

Fox Sports 1 guys thinks that PSG would be better of without Ibrahimovic. You agree?

I think PSG are best off with one of Ibrahimovic / Cavani on the pitch rather than both.

I think they are better with Ibrahimovic than Cavani as sole striker. Cavani is in a better run of form at the moment but Zlatan is the better player.

PSG still have not found right balance in the side with both of them on the pitch. I think the team they played today in a 4-3-1-2 with Pastore in the hole is their best lineup with both guys up front. I'd like to see PSG give that group more time together. Develop chemistry and learn how to take full advantage of Pastore. If Pastore cannot claim spot, I'd like to see them bring in somebody (central attacking midfielder) to replace him in the summer.

But who would you rather have on the two Zlatan or Cavani?

Oh, Zlatan. Zlatan. Zlatan. All the way.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on March 11, 2015, 06:43:57 PM
Who? How about a feedback...

Fox Sports 1 guys thinks that PSG would be better of without Ibrahimovic. You agree?

I think PSG are best off with one of Ibrahimovic / Cavani on the pitch rather than both.

I think they are better with Ibrahimovic than Cavani as sole striker. Cavani is in a better run of form at the moment but Zlatan is the better player.

PSG still have not found right balance in the side with both of them on the pitch. I think the team they played today in a 4-3-1-2 with Pastore in the hole is their best lineup with both guys up front. I'd like to see PSG give that group more time together. Develop chemistry and learn how to take full advantage of Pastore. If Pastore cannot claim spot, I'd like to see them bring in somebody (central attacking midfielder) to replace him in the summer.

But who would you rather have on the two Zlatan or Cavani?

Oh, Zlatan. Zlatan. Zlatan. All the way.

So you think they should sell Cavani to, say, Arsenal ( ;D), and use the money to fund for a CM? I think that's the way to go.

Cavani, would easily get £40 in the market, should be enough money to get a midfielder of quality, if not world class. David Silva would be fantastic with that PSG team.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on March 11, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
Who? How about a feedback...

Fox Sports 1 guys thinks that PSG would be better of without Ibrahimovic. You agree?

I think PSG are best off with one of Ibrahimovic / Cavani on the pitch rather than both.

I think they are better with Ibrahimovic than Cavani as sole striker. Cavani is in a better run of form at the moment but Zlatan is the better player.

PSG still have not found right balance in the side with both of them on the pitch. I think the team they played today in a 4-3-1-2 with Pastore in the hole is their best lineup with both guys up front. I'd like to see PSG give that group more time together. Develop chemistry and learn how to take full advantage of Pastore. If Pastore cannot claim spot, I'd like to see them bring in somebody (central attacking midfielder) to replace him in the summer.

But who would you rather have on the two Zlatan or Cavani?

Oh, Zlatan. Zlatan. Zlatan. All the way.

So you think they should sell Cavani to, say, Arsenal ( ;D), and use the money to fund for a CM? I think that's the way to go.

Cavani, would easily get £40 in the market, should be enough money to get a midfielder of quality, if not world class. David Silva would be fantastic with that PSG team.

Yes, I'd like to see them do that. David Silva would be amazing.

Veratti - Thiago Motta - Matuidi
 David Silva

Beautiful.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on March 12, 2015, 04:31:41 AM
The ref was a joke.... He almost ruined a great game. Not just the red card to Zlatan... Costa made a couple of dangerous tackles (plus he pushied Marquihnos), i think there was also a penalty for Chelsea.

i`d like to be in T.Silva`s mind.... What was he thinking and he handballed ???? 
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on March 12, 2015, 08:21:08 AM
No British clubs in the business end of the European season (except for a miracle tonight). Probably a blip.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on March 12, 2015, 01:23:33 PM
 :o :o :o :o
You are right ... i didn`t notice it....
How the might have fallen .....
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on March 19, 2015, 04:07:54 AM
So we have

Real , Barcelona , PSG, Bayern, Monaco,Porto,Juventus,Atletico

Id like to see :
Real VS Juventus
Barcelona VS Bayern
PSG VS Monaco
Atletico VS Porto
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on March 19, 2015, 07:58:45 AM
Barçelona v. Munich is something I'd like to see as a final
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on March 20, 2015, 07:13:16 AM
PSG vs barcelona (again)
atletico vs real (wow!!!)
porto vs bayern
monaco vs juventus
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on April 17, 2015, 04:02:11 AM
Porto just put Bayern in a world of hurt.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on April 24, 2015, 07:55:58 AM
Ah, dang it. Barcelona and Bayern to play each other in semi-final. I was hoping they'd avoid each other until the Final. I think Bayern are the better team when they are healthy but they have so many injuries right now so I believe Barcelona will knock them out.

Real Madrid vs Juventus in the other final. I'll be cheering on Juve ... but Madrid are clearly a class above them and should win the tie.

A Madrid vs Barca final? Looks that way to me.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on April 25, 2015, 03:30:04 PM
This makes it 8 semi finals appearances in 10 years for Barcelona.

That is incredible consistency at the highest level.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on April 25, 2015, 03:40:13 PM
Ah, dang it. Barcelona and Bayern to play each other in semi-final. I was hoping they'd avoid each other until the Final. I think Bayern are the better team when they are healthy but they have so many injuries right now so I believe Barcelona will knock them out.

Real Madrid vs Juventus in the other final. I'll be cheering on Juve ... but Madrid are clearly a class above them and should win the tie.

A Madrid vs Barca final? Looks that way to me.

Talk about a final.

I had money on Juventus pulling it, but that's out of being adventurous. I'm not sure Barcelona can beat Munich if Bayern is at full strength. But the Juve - Madrid match could be something as well.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 05, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
I put $20 against a co worker today on Juventus beating Real Madrid (on aggregate).

I'm not crazy, right?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on May 05, 2015, 03:40:54 PM
Darn. I missed the first half. Oh nice, Morata got a goal against his old team. 

Sounds like it was a great first half.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 05, 2015, 03:45:08 PM
Darn. I missed the first half. Oh nice, Morata got a goal against his old team. 

Sounds like it was a great first half.

That pass by James Rodriguez was absolute perfection. That entire attack sequence where they equalized was very pretty.

It was a very entertaining first half.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on May 05, 2015, 04:00:00 PM
Silly challenge by Carvajal. Love Tevez. Great job Tevez.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 05, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
Big penalty for Juventus.

Carvajal clearly stepped on Tevez's foot.

Good penalty. Juventus lead again. Looks like my bet is looking pretty good.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on May 06, 2015, 07:08:53 AM
Juventus was simply amazing and they where missing Pogba!  I don`t think they can qualify but still their performance yesterday was excellent.

Real needs a REAL holding def. midfielder. Their opponents have easy time moving the ball close to kasillias` box.
I can`t understand Perez`s unwillingness to spend money for def. minded players.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on May 06, 2015, 04:23:19 PM
Quick turnaround. Two goals for Messi late in game. Bayern in trouble.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Casperian on May 06, 2015, 04:34:47 PM
Quick turnaround. Two goals for Messi late in game. Bayern in trouble.

First goal was ridiculous.

The ref said Neymar dived, but didn't give him a second yellow. Bayern players outraged, justifiably so. 10 seconds later, Messi scores the goal.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on May 06, 2015, 04:35:42 PM
Bayern did not have enough quickness & pace or one-on-one players in the final third. They were too easy for Barcelona to defend. Robben and Ribery were huge losses.

Ah, boom. 3-0 Barcelona. Tie over? I think so.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 06, 2015, 10:04:41 PM
There are football players, then there are great football players, and then there are world class football players.

And then there's Lionel Messi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cREBaXKK0yU
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 12, 2015, 03:25:32 PM
Barcelona is a freight train running over everybody.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 12, 2015, 04:32:55 PM
Solid fight from Bayern Munich, didn't just quit and actually played much, much better in the 2nd half. I love Robert Lewandowski.

Unfortunately, aggregate score kills them.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on May 13, 2015, 04:39:03 PM
Juve! Juve! Juve!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on May 13, 2015, 04:39:37 PM
The former Real Madrid player killed Real Madrid. Juventus is on the final looking very dangerous.

I won 7 coffee bets. I'm good on coffee for the week! Thank you Alvaro Morata.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on May 14, 2015, 03:10:16 AM
I wanted a spanish final but at the same time i`m happy for Buffon. He hasn`t won the CL and he definately deserves to win one. He stayed with Juventus and played in the lower leagues during his prime and now 9 years since the relegation (and 12 since the last final)is just one step from the top. That`s how legends are made .......... 

Allora allora
Arriva la Signora
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: LatterDayCelticsfan on May 15, 2015, 02:04:58 AM
I wanted a spanish final but at the same time i`m happy for Buffon. He hasn`t won the CL and he definately deserves to win one. He stayed with Juventus and played in the lower leagues during his prime and now 9 years since the relegation (and 12 since the last final)is just one step from the top. That`s how legends are made .......... 

Allora allora
Arriva la Signora

Surely can Juventus stop the Barca freight train?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on May 15, 2015, 02:58:52 AM
I doubt it.... I`d be thrilled but i can`t see it happening
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 02:50:45 PM
Here we go!

Juve is pressing early on. Putting a ton of pressure on Barcelona.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 02:53:06 PM
Goal in 3 minutes! Wow.

Great passing from Barcelona from the build up, Neymar to Iniesta getting the attention, dropping it to Rakitic for an easy finish.

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 02:56:27 PM
Painful blow for Juventus. They were looking so good up until that point.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 03:03:10 PM
Juventus is tackling very carelessly. Feeling the pressure now?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on June 06, 2015, 03:48:45 PM
Vidal is itching to get sent off. Hard to see anything but more of the same in the second half.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 03:58:37 PM
Barcelona have started the second half off in irresistible form. They need to get this 2nd goal though. All it takes is one moment for this match to be even again.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:00:32 PM
Barcelona have started the second half off in irresistible form. They need to get this 2nd goal though. All it takes is one moment for this match to be even again.

YES!!!!! Goal Juventus!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 04:01:06 PM
Alvaro Morata strikes again. He's slowly becoming a superstar striker. Just perfect position to poach the goal.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 04:02:56 PM
What about the back heel from Marchisio and the perfect run from Stephan Lichsteiner. That set up a great attack.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on June 06, 2015, 04:07:02 PM
Buffon calming his team-mates down and holding up the play. Top captain.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:08:21 PM
Ohh! Tevez!
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on June 06, 2015, 04:13:33 PM
Anyone else rooting for extra time now?
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 04:14:30 PM
Suarez got it back from a beautiful Messi run.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:15:03 PM
No, no, no ... Juventus were doing so well. Were so close to getting a 2nd goal.

Barca get a goal on the counter. You could see it coming all the way up the pitch. Lost sight of Suarez early on. Loads of space to attack. Messi couldn't get the pass to him but Buffon couldn't push the shot wide enough. Suarez with the tap in.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:18:10 PM
Ball to hand. No intent. Neymar unlucky. Headed it first. Wasn't trying to use his hand. Completely accidental. Should have counted.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on June 06, 2015, 04:18:50 PM
I don't understand why Juve keeps tackling Messi when they know he's just going to get past them. Why can't they just close the gaps?

Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: AngryAndIrritable on June 06, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
Hard to say. If a defender had his hand needlessly high like that then a penalty would have been given. Neymar's hand had no business being that high up in an attempted header
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:25:50 PM
Juve don't have much quality on their bench.

Nobody there who you look at and think they can change the game.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:33:16 PM
Brilliant play by Pogba and Llorente. Pereya just couldn't get out of his feet.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: Who on June 06, 2015, 04:40:58 PM
This will be Barca's 4th Champions League trophy in 10 years. Heck of an achievement.

Liverpool the only other team to achieve that since Real Madrid did so in competition's early days.
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: ederson on June 07, 2015, 02:47:13 AM
Ball to hand. No intent. Neymar unlucky. Headed it first. Wasn't trying to use his hand. Completely accidental. Should have counted.

No intend but still it was the hand that helped him score. IMO it was the correct call. (but i can be wrong :D )
I think the assistant didn`t see the header. From the camera behind the goal it looked like Neymar used only the hand

Anyway it was a fair win and barcelona overall deserved it. They peaked at the right time..... I hope Juventus will remain so competitive next year. CL needs more variety. The trio of Barcelona - Real - Bayern reaching the semis every year is getting borring
Title: Re: 2014-15 UEFA Champions League
Post by: TA9 on June 09, 2015, 01:44:23 PM
Just saw this and thought that I'd share it with you guys as I found it little funny. Must be tough for the players to give back their medals ;D
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Thomas Vermaelen, Claudio Bravo, Jordi Masip and Douglas Pereira must all return their Champions League-medals because they didn't play a match this season in the competition, Uefa do not view them as Champions League winners.