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Jaylen Brown for Jaren Jackson, Jr. Do you do it?

Let's do this! I see a dynasty!
1 (6.7%)
Only if we can make this trade without including a pick or some other minor asset.
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Nope, Celtics should so no.
4 (26.7%)
Nope, Memphis says no. JJJ is their guy
10 (66.7%)

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Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2019, 09:01:38 AM »

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There's no way Memphis even entertains this. Jackson projects to be an Anthony Davis level talent. He may or may not reach that level, but considering that he's only 20 years old and coming off of a great rookie season, it would take an AD size package to trade for him. Brown and a late pick aren't going to come close to doing it.

Memphis considers Jackson a cornerstone piece. They would need equal value in any trade.

Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2019, 11:43:51 AM »

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Jackson projects to be an Anthony Davis level talent

Who is making that projection?

Memphis obviously values him highly, but projecting him as a top-5 player and best big in the NBA seems a bit lofty.


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Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2019, 11:51:24 AM »

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Jackson projects to be an Anthony Davis level talent

Who is making that projection?

Memphis obviously values him highly, but projecting him as a top-5 player and best big in the NBA seems a bit lofty.

Yeah, I don't foresee Anthony Davis. However, given his pre-draft projection and his actual rookie year production at age 19, I think an age 27-31 Al Horford is a reasonable floor to expect for him, which is still to say of course the C's would do that deal, and of course Memphis would hang up yesterday.

Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson[Poll]
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2019, 11:53:07 AM »

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Suppose the price for AD is too high - maybe Durant does go to the Knicks, the Knicks win the draft lottery, and they decide to dangle the top pick to NOP so they can pair Durant with AD. Or suppose the Pels hold out for Tatum and Brown, but this year's team gets to the Finals so the team doesn't want to do major surgery. What about this as a rebalancing second-best:

Bos gets: Jaren Jackson Jr.
Mem gets: Jaylen Brown

If necessary, throw in a lesser first-round pick for NOP - ideally Boston's or the Clippers', possibly Sacto's if it doesn't move up in the lottery.

Why Boston does it: First, they make sure JJJ's physicals check out. If they do, we would be rebalancing - exchanging a very good player (in Brown) for another very good player (JJJ) in an area where we are much thinner.  JJJ might pair well with Al right away as a starter, letting us give Baynes 15-20 minutes as the third big; longterm we would be grooming JJJ to be Al's heir. The future of the frontcourt, assuming RWIII keeps improving, looks solid and we clear out some of the logjam at the wing. Since Jackson is a long 6'11" (good reach) and already goes 240 at age 19, he's plenty big enough to play center. Plus, he's on his rookie deal for another three years, which helps ease the pain of the lux tax.

Why Memphis does it: Memphis would miss JJJ, no doubt, but they have plenty of other holes. They are also lacking an elite wing prospect, and Brown fills that bill. Playing on the Grizzlies will let Brown grow into a bigger role and develop more of his growing talent for shot creation, which is going to be a bit buried on the Cs. He's already a very good one-on-one defender - a true two-way player.  They play different positions, but Brown's talent is comparable to Jackson's, and the sweetener, which is likely needed to get this deal done, is an extra first-round pick.

Wanted to add a poll, but can't figure out how to do that, so here's my poll:

1 - Let's do this! I see a dynasty!
2 - Only if we can make this trade without including a pick or some other minor asset.
3 - Nope, Celtics should say no
4 - Nope, Memphis says no, JJJ is their guy
Added that poll for you.

Maybe everyone can go back and revote.

Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson[Poll]
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2019, 01:18:27 PM »

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Haven't seen enough of Jaren Jackson and this just seems like a lateral move.

Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2019, 01:37:07 PM »

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There's no way Memphis even entertains this. Jackson projects to be an Anthony Davis level talent. He may or may not reach that level, but considering that he's only 20 years old and coming off of a great rookie season, it would take an AD size package to trade for him. Brown and a late pick aren't going to come close to doing it.

Memphis considers Jackson a cornerstone piece. They would need equal value in any trade.

Assuming we can’t get Davis, is there any other package you would consider offering Memphis to get Jackson?

How about adding the return of their pick?
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Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson[Poll]
« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2019, 02:30:53 PM »

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For further comparison, while I love me some Jaylen Brown, here are some side by sides:



So it is roughly a lateral move THIS year (3rd yr vs rookie, 22 vs 19 years old). And they are likely both underrated overall due to deriving a lot of defensive value, so you can't really knock one of them for being a 1 way player. JJJ is a pretty intriguing player.

Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson[Poll]
« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2019, 04:28:17 PM »

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I love Jackson but for his size and where he plays, he is a bad rebounder. He has horrible rebounding numbers this year and his college numbers weren't anything to write home about. Given that rebounding is one of the few skills that translates well in numbers from college to pro ball, that doesn't bode well for him suddenly becoming a good rebounder.

Jackson is a PF and Jaylen a SG and they have nearly identical rebound numbers. That is not good.

Re: Rebalancing trade - Brown for Jackson[Poll]
« Reply #23 on: April 20, 2019, 05:22:18 PM »

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Keep brown