Lucky17's Yahoo! FBB Points League: 2012 Preseason: Constitution Up!

[Lucky17]

Order for the Rookie Draft, to be held on Monday, October 24, at noon EST/9 AM PST:

1. Make Me Some Bacon Kyrie Irving 2. 33-00-32 bada bing Derrick Williams 3. 33-00-32 bada bing Enes Kanter 4. Make Me Some Bacon Jan Vesley 5. GomesFan 2 12:40 Kemba Walker 6. Designated Drinkers 12:50 Tristan Thompson 7. Jsaad 1:00 Jonas Valanciunas^^ 8. eja 117 1:10 Bismack Biyombo^^ 9. Webskins 1:20 Brandon Knight^^ 10. Edgar Crotors 1:30 Jimmer Fredette^^ 11. GomesFan 1:40 Klay Thompson 12. Lucky 17 1:50 Kawhi Leonard 13. Ya’ll Hate 2:00 Marcus Morris 14. Birdman 2:10 Kenneth Faried 15. TBD    2:20 Alec Burks 16. Pittsburgh Pisces 2:30 Iman Shumpert 17. GomesFan 2:40 Marshon Brooks 18. Make Me Some Bacon 2:50 Nikola Vucevic 19. Pittsburgh Pisces 3:00 Chris Singleton 20. 33-00-32 bada bing 3:10 Tobias Harris

21. 33-00-32 bada bing 3:15 Markieff Morris 22. Toine's Boys 3:20 Donatas Motiejunas 23. 33-00-32 bada bing 3:25 JaJuan Johnson 24. Toine’s Boys 3:30 Jeremy Tyler 25. Make Me Some Bacon 3:35 Nolan Smith 26. Designated Drinkers 3:40 Nikola Mirotic 27. TBD   3:45 Norris Cole 28. eja 117 3:50 Reggie Jackson^^ 29. Webskins 3:55 Jordan Hamilton^^ 30. Edgar Crotors 4:00 Cory Joseph^^ 31. Toine’s Boys 4:05 Kyle Singler 32. Toine’s Boys 4:10 Jordan Williams 33. Lucky17 4:15 Jimmy Butler 34. Birdman 4:20 Shelvin Mack 35. TBD 4:25 Tyler Honeycutt 36. Ubuntu Y'all 4:30 Trey Thompkins 37. Toine’s Boys 4:35 Jon Leuer 38. Pittsburgh Pisces 4:40 Josh Selby 39. Lucky17 4:45 E'Twaun Moore 40. Lucky17 4:50 Keith Benson

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Note: Pick #11, unless anyone can prove otherwise, belongs to Make Me Some Bacon. I was able to find confirmation of a trade that involved that pick (hat tip to Gainesville for the help).

If there's any other discrepancy that needs to be corrected, please let me know.

Each of you will have 5 (2nd round) or 10 minutes (1st round) to post your pick in this thread. The time listed next to each pick is the time the pick is due. Any GM who fails to post a selection by the deadline and who has not sent me a sufficient list of preferences will be assigned the best available player based on the results of the actual 2011 NBA draft.

[Example: the team with the #8 pick fails to make a selection by the deadline, and both Tristan Thompson and Brandon Knight are still available. While Knight was picked #8 in the actual draft, Thompson was picked at #4, so he would be the default selection.]

Also, I'd like to propose that starting this season, we will expand the lottery to include the bottom 12 teams. Each of these teams will have the chance to move into the top 3 of the draft, based on the chances of the corresponding NBA teams. This will be one item up for voting.

Also, I'd like to implement the anti-tanking strategy that we discussed during and after this past season: each team's point total will be increased by the average number of points per game times the number of unused games remaining at the end of the season. These revised standings will then be used to determine draft order and lottery chances.

[33-00-32]

I like both suggestions for next year. I'm ready for the draft and hopefully there will be plenty of action!

[hpantazo]

I like both suggestions for next year. I'm ready for the draft and hopefully there will be plenty of action!

Me too, I am pleased with both suggestions and ready for the draft, I hope I can be around enough tomorrow to enjoy it!

[mkogav]

Both suggestion are gr8.

Can't wait for tomorrow! Wait, I don't have any picks!!!!

Trade anyone?

Dirk maybe?

Mk

[Gainesville Celtic]

Note: Pick #11, unless anyone can prove otherwise, belongs to Make Me Some Bacon. I was able to find confirmation of a trade that involved that pick (hat tip to Gainesville for the help).

As I mentioned earlier, I had in my excel sheet that GomesFan held the pick (via MMSB via Ubunuts) but I don't know for what. Speak now or forever hold your peace GF.

Also, I'd like to propose that starting this season, we will expand the lottery to include the bottom 12 teams. Each of these teams will have the chance to move into the top 3 of the draft, based on the chances of the corresponding NBA teams. This will be one item up for voting.

I guess I vote yes.
Don't feel strongly either way.

Also, I'd like to implement the anti-tanking strategy that we discussed during and after this past season: each team's point total will be increased by the average number of points per game times the number of unused games remaining at the end of the season. These revised standings will then be used to determine draft order and lottery chances.

I vote yes, but want to clarify 2 things so everyone is clear:


(1) each team under 902 games will have points added to their total? there is no accpetable # of games missed? 30 games = 2.7 gms missed/position; 55 games = 5 missed per position.


(2) Are we adding league-wide average (25.62 = 437,907.55 overall points / 17,093 games) or a team's individual average?

I'd suggest the former. In addition to saving you a step (i.e. figuring each team's avg) it seems to me this rewards a team that played all their games (i.e. was active) but whose players stink.

I have the math on this if you want, but a quick example of the difference:

#17 Blatche Poop Shoes (18059 in 876 games) 1634 pts ahead of..
#20 Toines Boys (16424 in 832 games)

in either scenario BPS moves up to #19, TB stays #20

Adding each team's individual average:
BPS = 20.62 * 26 gms = 536 + 18059 = 18595.05
TB = 19.74 * 70 gms = 1381.86 + 16424 = 17806.31

TB ahead by 788.73


Adding league wide average (25.62):
BPS = 25.62 * 26 gms =666.12 + 18059 = 18725.17
TB = 25.62 * 70 gms = 1,793.4 + 16424 = 18217.85

TB ahead by 507.32 --- this method rewards teams more for playing more games b/c the penalty is bigger for those teams who play fewer games.

[hpantazo]

Note: Pick #11, unless anyone can prove otherwise, belongs to Make Me Some Bacon. I was able to find confirmation of a trade that involved that pick (hat tip to Gainesville for the help).

As I mentioned earlier, I had in my excel sheet that GomesFan held the pick (via MMSB via Ubunuts) but I don't know for what. Speak now or forever hold your peace GF.

Also, I'd like to propose that starting this season, we will expand the lottery to include the bottom 12 teams. Each of these teams will have the chance to move into the top 3 of the draft, based on the chances of the corresponding NBA teams. This will be one item up for voting.

I guess I vote yes.
Don't feel strongly either way.

Also, I'd like to implement the anti-tanking strategy that we discussed during and after this past season: each team's point total will be increased by the average number of points per game times the number of unused games remaining at the end of the season. These revised standings will then be used to determine draft order and lottery chances.

I vote yes, but want to clarify 2 things so everyone is clear:


(1) each team under 902 games will have points added to their total? there is no accpetable # of games missed? 30 games = 2.7 gms missed/position; 55 games = 5 missed per position.


(2) Are we adding league-wide average (25.62 = 437,907.55 overall points / 17,093 games) or a team's individual average?

I'd suggest the former. In addition to saving you a step (i.e. figuring each team's avg) it seems to me this rewards a team that played all their games (i.e. was active) but whose players stink.

I have the math on this if you want, but a quick example of the difference:

#17 Blatche Poop Shoes (18059 in 876 games) 1634 pts ahead of..
#20 Toines Boys (16424 in 832 games)

in either scenario BPS moves up to #19, TB stays #20

Adding each team's individual average:
BPS = 20.62 * 26 gms = 536 + 18059 = 18595.05
TB = 19.74 * 70 gms = 1381.86 + 16424 = 17806.31

TB ahead by 788.73


Adding league wide average (25.62):
BPS = 25.62 * 26 gms =666.12 + 18059 = 18725.17
TB = 25.62 * 70 gms = 1,793.4 + 16424 = 18217.85

TB ahead by 507.32 --- this method rewards teams more for playing more games b/c the penalty is bigger for those teams who play fewer games.

for #1, I would go with every game under 902 should result in points added, no exceptions

#2, I prefer using the league wide average instead of each team's average, I believe this is more fair overall

[JSD]

Sweet.

Fyi - I'm on auto draft

[33-00-32]

I don't see any times listed, is the first pick due by Noon or by 12:10?

[Gomesfan]

I have the #5 & #25 picks.

I will entertain offers on picks and players.

[Gomesfan]

If any contenders need that extra push I have Kidd who will put up solid numbers and he is available.

[Rondo2287]

Chris Paul still on the block

[Lucky17]

I don't see any times listed, is the first pick due by Noon or by 12:10?

Sorry, I updated with those times. Yes, the 1st pick is due at noon.

[Lucky17]

Trade to announce:

Lucky 17 trades DeJuan Blair and #4 pick
Make Me Some Bacon trades Brandon Jennings and #12 pick

I'll take offers on the #12 pick.

[Rondo2287]

I am getting very close to a trade for paul, but still open to offers.  I would like to move him before the draft.

[Lucky17]

On the block, plus the #12 pick:

Francisco Garcia
Rudy Fernandez
Jason Maxiell
Rashard Lewis
Jason Thompson
Brandon Bass
Will Bynum
Joel Przybilla

Looking to trade two or three players for one.