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Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2009, 02:09:17 PM »

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So it looks like they're serious about playing Lebron at the 4????  They've signed two sf's so far and i cant imagine they need two lines of depth behind lebron.

Lebron at the 4: I havn't decided if thats really smart or stupid, someone help.

I think they will be less West at 2 and more Lebron at 4. 


Which is fine.  I would love to see the Celtics post Lebron up over and over with KG during a 7 game series.  Best way to wear out those legs. 

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2009, 02:10:04 PM »

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well..the cavs have a bench of parker, moon, gibson and z depending if they are going to play brick james at the 3 or 4...if he plays the 4..parker wiill start and then varajo comes off the bench.

i still don't like the small back court they have but there bench is a little better without wally, sasha...etc..boston still needs to finish out the bench...if they get a bench of

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Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2009, 02:13:25 PM »

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All these signings and trades; they still haven't addresses one of their biggest weaknesses, the pick and roll defense.

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2009, 02:14:51 PM »

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All these signings and trades; they still haven't addresses one of their biggest weaknesses, the pick and roll defense.

and they really dont have a legit PF (hickson) i guess...cavs don't put fear into me..

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2009, 02:25:31 PM »

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Can Jamario Moon cover KG or Sheed? Can Big Z? Can Shaq?
But he might allow LeBron to play the four more, which is a very effective line up.

Lebron guarding Sheed or KG is in our best interest as well, plus that would leave Moon on Pierce....

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2009, 02:37:22 PM »

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All these signings and trades; they still haven't addresses one of their biggest weaknesses, the pick and roll defense.

Yeah, right now, the only defensive big man they have is Andy.  I think they definitely helped themselves by picking up Shaq, but the wings are doing nothing for me.  They had decent depth on the wing already, and were not making dramatic upgrades.  Where they need to upgrade is at PG (yeah, I am not sold on Williams as a championship level defender), and PF. 

Of course they still have Z's expiring contract to add someone else, but I just am not that worried anymore.  I actually think Orlando has done more to fix their weakness than Cleveland has.

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2009, 02:39:12 PM »

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Funny, the Cavs are doing all this to appease a man who won't be staying past next season, and none of it is going make any difference in them winning a title because that roster still won't beat ours in a 7 game series.

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2009, 02:41:49 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2009, 02:44:38 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels


Probably because Boston threw it's entire MLE on Wallace.  Cleveland must have used what ever MLE it hadn't used to make an offer for Moon.  (which could be matched)


Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2009, 02:45:58 PM »

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Anyone else feel like Cleveland is making moves to matchup with Orlando?




Also, does it make sense to anyone that they might be force to play Lebron at the 4, which I imagine he might not like) when they are trying to keep him?

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2009, 02:58:57 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels


Probably because Boston threw it's entire MLE on Wallace.  Cleveland must have used what ever MLE it hadn't used to make an offer for Moon.  (which could be matched)



are you saying that Moon is going to sign for more than the LLE?

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2009, 03:09:55 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels


Probably because Boston threw it's entire MLE on Wallace.  Cleveland must have used what ever MLE it hadn't used to make an offer for Moon.  (which could be matched)



are you saying that Moon is going to sign for more than the LLE?

I think if they want Miami not to match, they would have to offer a bit more. 

What is his qualifying offer anyways?

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2009, 03:24:39 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels


Probably because Boston threw it's entire MLE on Wallace.  Cleveland must have used what ever MLE it hadn't used to make an offer for Moon.  (which could be matched)



are you saying that Moon is going to sign for more than the LLE?

I think if they want Miami not to match, they would have to offer a bit more. 

What is his qualifying offer anyways?

i believe it is 1 million

Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #43 on: July 19, 2009, 03:28:13 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels

Maybe the Cavs didn't buy Miami's bluff that they would match a small offer.  Who knows?

I do like Moon a lot better than Daniels as a player, but I can see why the C's brass likes Daniels for our team.  It's the same reasoning that keeps TA around: they want someone other than Rondo and Pierce who can consistently attack a defense off the bounce.  Moon would complement Rondo and Pierce much better, and bring more stat-stuffing goodness to the table, but Daniels can at least play the Rondo/Pierce role to a limited degree.

As for the Cavs, they are shaping up, but they still don't have a complete impact player to put next to Bron.  Mo Williams and D-West are still undersized combo guards, Parker's got a well-rounded skill-set but doesn't even come close to 2nd banana talent, Shaq can only score and rebound for 2/3s of the season at this point, Varejao still doesn't pose a threat on offense, Z is offense only, and now with Moon, they have another great fill in the cracks player.  The Cavs are going to overwhelm people in the regular season again (I'm betting Shaq will play sparingly), but I think they'll continue to be average against the really good teams.

They are basing their entire team on an assumption that LeBron will consistently dismantle opposing defenses and that the rest of the players need only to be able to capitalize on these opportunities.  
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Re: Cavs sign Jamario Moon to offer sheet
« Reply #44 on: July 19, 2009, 03:30:47 PM »

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I don't understand why we moved on from Moon if he is going to sign for so little money and actaully wanted to play here.

at 6'8" with a decent outside shot, it seems like he fit better what we needed than Daniels


Probably because Boston threw it's entire MLE on Wallace.  Cleveland must have used what ever MLE it hadn't used to make an offer for Moon.  (which could be matched)



are you saying that Moon is going to sign for more than the LLE?

I think if they want Miami not to match, they would have to offer a bit more. 

What is his qualifying offer anyways?

i believe it is 1 million

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4339432


Can't be the LLE

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League rules dictate that offer sheets must span three years in length



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The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported that the Cavs have about $3.2 million left of their $5.9 million mid-level exception that they can use in whole or part to sign Moon.