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Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2021, 09:28:55 PM »

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Redick definitely did not play much in Orlando early on (that is when Dwight was in his prime and the Magic were a real contender), but when he did play he was always an excellent shooter.  That is the worry for someone like Langford, who has just been bad shooting the ball.

It's a legit worry, particularly when you consider that Langford has been very bad in terms of both shooting and overall scoring rate. 

But, there are counter examples.  Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier were both lousy shooters early on, and surprisingly became quite respectable.  Rozier went from being abjectly terrible as a shooter to a step below elite status.


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Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2021, 09:51:36 PM »

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Redick definitely did not play much in Orlando early on (that is when Dwight was in his prime and the Magic were a real contender), but when he did play he was always an excellent shooter.  That is the worry for someone like Langford, who has just been bad shooting the ball.

It's a legit worry, particularly when you consider that Langford has been very bad in terms of both shooting and overall scoring rate. 

But, there are counter examples.  Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier were both lousy shooters early on, and surprisingly became quite respectable.  Rozier went from being abjectly terrible as a shooter to a step below elite status.
Rozier had so few attempts as a rookie I'm not sure I'd put much stock in it.  He was still a bad 31.8% in year 2, but that was some pretty stark improvement.  By year 3 he was shooting 38.1% from 3.   Bradley didn't shoot much, but in his 2nd year on the little attempts he had, he shot 40.7% from 3.  He regressed with more minutes in year 3 to 31.7, but then went up to 39.5 in year 4.  Langford has more attempts per game and a worse percentage.  Still not a lot of attempts, so he certainly could improve, but he didn't exactly tear it up in college either. 
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Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2021, 10:04:03 PM »

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Redick definitely did not play much in Orlando early on (that is when Dwight was in his prime and the Magic were a real contender), but when he did play he was always an excellent shooter.  That is the worry for someone like Langford, who has just been bad shooting the ball.

It's a legit worry, particularly when you consider that Langford has been very bad in terms of both shooting and overall scoring rate. 

But, there are counter examples.  Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier were both lousy shooters early on, and surprisingly became quite respectable.  Rozier went from being abjectly terrible as a shooter to a step below elite status.
Rozier had so few attempts as a rookie I'm not sure I'd put much stock in it. He was still a bad 31.8% in year 2, but that was some pretty stark improvement.  By year 3 he was shooting 38.1% from 3.   Bradley didn't shoot much, but in his 2nd year on the little attempts he had, he shot 40.7% from 3.  He regressed with more minutes in year 3 to 31.7, but then went up to 39.5 in year 4.  Langford has more attempts per game and a worse percentage.  Still not a lot of attempts, so he certainly could improve, but he didn't exactly tear it up in college either.

Rozier and Langford literally attempted an identical amount of 3s as a rookie — 27.

Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2021, 07:54:14 AM »

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Redick definitely did not play much in Orlando early on (that is when Dwight was in his prime and the Magic were a real contender), but when he did play he was always an excellent shooter.  That is the worry for someone like Langford, who has just been bad shooting the ball.

It's a legit worry, particularly when you consider that Langford has been very bad in terms of both shooting and overall scoring rate. 

But, there are counter examples.  Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier were both lousy shooters early on, and surprisingly became quite respectable.  Rozier went from being abjectly terrible as a shooter to a step below elite status.
Rozier had so few attempts as a rookie I'm not sure I'd put much stock in it. He was still a bad 31.8% in year 2, but that was some pretty stark improvement.  By year 3 he was shooting 38.1% from 3.   Bradley didn't shoot much, but in his 2nd year on the little attempts he had, he shot 40.7% from 3.  He regressed with more minutes in year 3 to 31.7, but then went up to 39.5 in year 4.  Langford has more attempts per game and a worse percentage.  Still not a lot of attempts, so he certainly could improve, but he didn't exactly tear it up in college either.

Rozier and Langford literally attempted an identical amount of 3s as a rookie — 27.
very true, but Langford wasn't much better in year 2 and was also awful in college.  He has never shown an ability to shoot the ball from 3. 
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Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2021, 09:37:45 AM »

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Redick definitely did not play much in Orlando early on (that is when Dwight was in his prime and the Magic were a real contender), but when he did play he was always an excellent shooter.  That is the worry for someone like Langford, who has just been bad shooting the ball.

It's a legit worry, particularly when you consider that Langford has been very bad in terms of both shooting and overall scoring rate. 

But, there are counter examples.  Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier were both lousy shooters early on, and surprisingly became quite respectable.  Rozier went from being abjectly terrible as a shooter to a step below elite status.
Rozier had so few attempts as a rookie I'm not sure I'd put much stock in it. He was still a bad 31.8% in year 2, but that was some pretty stark improvement.  By year 3 he was shooting 38.1% from 3.   Bradley didn't shoot much, but in his 2nd year on the little attempts he had, he shot 40.7% from 3.  He regressed with more minutes in year 3 to 31.7, but then went up to 39.5 in year 4.  Langford has more attempts per game and a worse percentage.  Still not a lot of attempts, so he certainly could improve, but he didn't exactly tear it up in college either.

Rozier and Langford literally attempted an identical amount of 3s as a rookie — 27.
very true, but Langford wasn't much better in year 2 and was also awful in college.  He has never shown an ability to shoot the ball from 3.

We've been down this road before, but for what it's worth, Rozier shot 30.6% as a college sophomore (the year he was drafted) while Langford shot 27.2% as a college freshman, the year he was drafted.  Langford shot 31.4% from three (regular season plus playoffs) in year 2, Rozier shot 32.7% (regular season plus playoffs).  He was also a year-and-a-half older than Langford at their respective career points.  The simple fact is Romeo is young, inexperienced, and has been held back by health issues, and his future is not remotely written.

Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2021, 10:43:09 AM »

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Redick definitely did not play much in Orlando early on (that is when Dwight was in his prime and the Magic were a real contender), but when he did play he was always an excellent shooter.  That is the worry for someone like Langford, who has just been bad shooting the ball.

It's a legit worry, particularly when you consider that Langford has been very bad in terms of both shooting and overall scoring rate. 

But, there are counter examples.  Avery Bradley and Terry Rozier were both lousy shooters early on, and surprisingly became quite respectable.  Rozier went from being abjectly terrible as a shooter to a step below elite status.
Rozier had so few attempts as a rookie I'm not sure I'd put much stock in it. He was still a bad 31.8% in year 2, but that was some pretty stark improvement.  By year 3 he was shooting 38.1% from 3.   Bradley didn't shoot much, but in his 2nd year on the little attempts he had, he shot 40.7% from 3.  He regressed with more minutes in year 3 to 31.7, but then went up to 39.5 in year 4.  Langford has more attempts per game and a worse percentage.  Still not a lot of attempts, so he certainly could improve, but he didn't exactly tear it up in college either.

Rozier and Langford literally attempted an identical amount of 3s as a rookie — 27.
very true, but Langford wasn't much better in year 2 and was also awful in college.  He has never shown an ability to shoot the ball from 3.

We've been down this road before, but for what it's worth, Rozier shot 30.6% as a college sophomore (the year he was drafted) while Langford shot 27.2% as a college freshman, the year he was drafted.  Langford shot 31.4% from three (regular season plus playoffs) in year 2, Rozier shot 32.7% (regular season plus playoffs).  He was also a year-and-a-half older than Langford at their respective career points.  The simple fact is Romeo is young, inexperienced, and has been held back by health issues, and his future is not remotely written.
Rozier also shot 37.1% as a college freshman.  He has always been streaky and inconsistent, but he has also shown an actual ability to hit shots at a well above average level from deep for long periods of time (like whole seasons). 
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Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2021, 11:40:35 AM »

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I bet Redick plays again around March, for Nets or another top playoff team

Re: Redick Retires
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2021, 07:04:45 PM »

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He was a deadly player in LA and Philly. Wish he'd been a Celtic at some stage - he's effectively the anti-Marcus Smart
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