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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1305 on: September 15, 2021, 08:14:13 AM »

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Love?

Wall for Love, Rubio maybe someone like House or one of the late 1st's they have also to Cleveland.

Love and scrapes for Wall looks very doable...
the other one that makes some level of sense is the Clippers

Wall for Bledsoe, Kennard, and Ibaka
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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1306 on: September 15, 2021, 09:49:54 AM »

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I don't get the league allowing a player to sit out like this. If the team can justify that a trade is imminent maybe, but just canceling his whole season like this to protect his trade value and their draft slot, that shouldn't be permitted.

It’s an imperfect system, but there aren’t great solutions for forcing a team to play a player, especially if the player mutually doesn’t want to play for the team.  How does the league decide who has to play and who doesn’t?   How much does he have to play?  Does he have to give 100%?  Is it better for the league to have John Wall just go through the motions like Blake Griffin did in Detroit, such that he gets bought out, goes to a contender, and ups his game?
I don't know the answer. But allowing healthy guys to sit out an entire season when they're under contract shouldn't be tolerated.
In the Horford case, this was likely OKC management purposely doing this.  (as an aside, it's one reason I think Ainge may have already had his eye on getting Al back.  The other reason is that the deal came so darn quick after Ainge stepped down, but I digress from what I was going to say)...Will Horford's lower minutes last season (782 vs a career avg of 2159 per season) be a benefit to the Celtics?

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1307 on: September 15, 2021, 11:48:09 AM »

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Love?

Wall for Love, Rubio maybe someone like House or one of the late 1st's they have also to Cleveland.

Love and scrapes for Wall looks very doable...
the other one that makes some level of sense is the Clippers

Wall for Bledsoe, Kennard, and Ibaka

That does make some sense.

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1308 on: September 15, 2021, 11:55:00 AM »

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Why would Cleveland need another point guard?

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1309 on: September 15, 2021, 11:59:21 AM »

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Love?

Wall for Love, Rubio maybe someone like House or one of the late 1st's they have also to Cleveland.

Love and scrapes for Wall looks very doable...
the other one that makes some level of sense is the Clippers

Wall for Bledsoe, Kennard, and Ibaka

That does make some sense.

Maybe a little sense.  Not sure the Clippers would want to pay and extra $18ish million in luxury tax this year to get Wall, but I think the bigger problem is next year.  Wall at $47+ million is owed $30 million more than Kennard, Ibaka, and Bledsoe.  The tax bill would be astronomical, and it would be really difficult for the Clippers to make additional moves with Kawhi, George, and Wall being owed more than $130 million between them.  You'd have to be sure that Wall is an All-Star player to make that move, and I'm not sure he's an upgrade over Reggie Jackson in terms of fit on that team.

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« Reply #1310 on: September 15, 2021, 11:59:29 AM »

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Why would Cleveland need another point guard?

They need a point guard for every center.

I believe they are trying to eliminate the wing position.

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1311 on: September 15, 2021, 12:01:55 PM »

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Love?

Wall for Love, Rubio maybe someone like House or one of the late 1st's they have also to Cleveland.

Love and scrapes for Wall looks very doable...
the other one that makes some level of sense is the Clippers

Wall for Bledsoe, Kennard, and Ibaka

That does make some sense.

I don’t think it makes sense for the Clippers.  Wall missed time several different times last year, only appearing in 40 games.  It’s likely this trade would hurt LA more than it helps.


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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1312 on: September 15, 2021, 01:24:35 PM »

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Love?

Wall for Love, Rubio maybe someone like House or one of the late 1st's they have also to Cleveland.

Love and scrapes for Wall looks very doable...
the other one that makes some level of sense is the Clippers

Wall for Bledsoe, Kennard, and Ibaka

That does make some sense.

I don’t think it makes sense for the Clippers.  Wall missed time several different times last year, only appearing in 40 games.  It’s likely this trade would hurt LA more than it helps.
Sure but Ibaka and Kennard did basically nothing for the Clippers and Bledsoe is no where near as good as Wall. 

Also, Wall could have played towards the end of the year, but they kept him out for better draft position.  So he probably could have had 45-50 games played.  Still not a full season, but also not as detrimental as 40.
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PF - Karl Malone 97, Spencer Haywood 73, David West 08
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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1313 on: September 16, 2021, 07:50:56 PM »

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This is classic Kyrie:

"Some NBA news:

There are a handful of Kyrie trades that potentially make sense for the Nets, Kyrie’s agents have made it known that Kyrie would simply *retire from the NBA* if Brooklyn were to trade him."


https://1045theteam.com/sorry-brooklyn-nets-fans-youre-stuck-with-kyrie-irving-for-a-while/

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« Reply #1314 on: September 16, 2021, 07:58:51 PM »

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This is classic Kyrie:

"Some NBA news:

There are a handful of Kyrie trades that potentially make sense for the Nets, Kyrie’s agents have made it known that Kyrie would simply *retire from the NBA* if Brooklyn were to trade him."


https://1045theteam.com/sorry-brooklyn-nets-fans-youre-stuck-with-kyrie-irving-for-a-while/
Kyrie himself responded to Nick Wrong's tweet and said it's false, so who knows
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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1315 on: September 16, 2021, 08:04:10 PM »

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This is classic Kyrie:

"Some NBA news:

There are a handful of Kyrie trades that potentially make sense for the Nets, Kyrie’s agents have made it known that Kyrie would simply *retire from the NBA* if Brooklyn were to trade him."


https://1045theteam.com/sorry-brooklyn-nets-fans-youre-stuck-with-kyrie-irving-for-a-while/
Kyrie himself responded to Nick Wrong's tweet and said it's false, so who knows

So Kyrie is open to a trade?

 ;D

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1316 on: September 17, 2021, 12:04:10 AM »

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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1317 on: September 17, 2021, 03:17:19 AM »

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This is classic Kyrie:

"Some NBA news:

There are a handful of Kyrie trades that potentially make sense for the Nets, Kyrie’s agents have made it known that Kyrie would simply *retire from the NBA* if Brooklyn were to trade him."


https://1045theteam.com/sorry-brooklyn-nets-fans-youre-stuck-with-kyrie-irving-for-a-while/
Kyrie himself responded to Nick Wrong's tweet and said it's false, so who knows

So Kyrie is open to a trade?

 ;D

I heard we needed a good point guard

Oh wait...

Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1318 on: September 17, 2021, 07:07:20 AM »

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Re: NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021
« Reply #1319 on: September 17, 2021, 07:16:47 AM »

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This is classic Kyrie:

"Some NBA news:

There are a handful of Kyrie trades that potentially make sense for the Nets, Kyrie’s agents have made it known that Kyrie would simply *retire from the NBA* if Brooklyn were to trade him."


https://1045theteam.com/sorry-brooklyn-nets-fans-youre-stuck-with-kyrie-irving-for-a-while/
Kyrie himself responded to Nick Wrong's tweet and said it's false, so who knows
Yeah, Kyrie called Mr. Wrong a puppet.  Then Mr. Wrong said that he knows for a fact that Kyrie's agents have said what was claimed.  I'll always believe the person not named Kyrie Irving, even if his name is Nick Wrong.  Irving has repeatedly demonstrated that he's a liar.