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Re: Curry, Thompson, and Green
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2017, 03:21:20 PM »

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this nonsense needs to stop. The NBA is selling a product, the fans are consumers. You cannot advertise a product and then deliver something inferior to what you advertised.


Doesn't this comment belong in the Sixers' thread?

Sorry I do not post in the off topic forum.
TP for the burn on the Sixers.

I don't mind the sitting if it's once or twice a season. When you buy a ticket you're betting that everyone you want to see if going to be healthy. It doesn't always work out. If the sitting helps keep guys healthy and thus keeps guys on the floor for more games throughout the year by keeping them from getting injured as frequently, then it's a net positive.

TP for the best argument in favor of resting that I have seen so far, but there must be convincing evidence that the rest actually reduces the risk of injury down the line.
Right and I can't say I've actually see seen solid evidence for it.
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Re: Curry, Thompson, and Green
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2017, 03:40:52 PM »

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A great article on the subject of sitting players at times like this:

"Kerr's call to rest stars on back-to-back part of modern NBA reality"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18884059/science-brutal-travel-led-kerr-rest-stars

Suck it up, do you even know why you are being paid millions of dollars? Part of it is because of the huge demand of the game on your body. Now you want to cheat the fans by taking the money and 'prolonging' your playing career. Kerr should be ashamed of himself. If he really thought this through why did he not sit the players yesterday instead of the Saturday game where many fans could have planned activities around the nationally broadcast Saturday game. That article was long and repetitive, did not say much. Basically states that the schedule is brutal, yeah we knew that, it subjects the players to the risk of injury, yeah we knew that too. Suck it up and stop cheating the fans.

If it helps my team in the long run im willing to pay and watch our bench play. Most SA fans dont care about 1 game, its the bigger picture. I suggest you do the same.

Re: Curry, Thompson, and Green
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2017, 03:43:01 PM »

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A great article on the subject of sitting players at times like this:

"Kerr's call to rest stars on back-to-back part of modern NBA reality"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18884059/science-brutal-travel-led-kerr-rest-stars

Suck it up, do you even know why you are being paid millions of dollars? Part of it is because of the huge demand of the game on your body. Now you want to cheat the fans by taking the money and 'prolonging' your playing career. Kerr should be ashamed of himself. If he really thought this through why did he not sit the players yesterday instead of the Saturday game where many fans could have planned activities around the nationally broadcast Saturday game. That article was long and repetitive, did not say much. Basically states that the schedule is brutal, yeah we knew that, it subjects the players to the risk of injury, yeah we knew that too. Suck it up and stop cheating the fans.

Re: Curry, Thompson, and Green
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2017, 03:51:29 PM »

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A great article on the subject of sitting players at times like this:

"Kerr's call to rest stars on back-to-back part of modern NBA reality"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18884059/science-brutal-travel-led-kerr-rest-stars

Suck it up, do you even know why you are being paid millions of dollars? Part of it is because of the huge demand of the game on your body. Now you want to cheat the fans by taking the money and 'prolonging' your playing career. Kerr should be ashamed of himself. If he really thought this through why did he not sit the players yesterday instead of the Saturday game where many fans could have planned activities around the nationally broadcast Saturday game. That article was long and repetitive, did not say much. Basically states that the schedule is brutal, yeah we knew that, it subjects the players to the risk of injury, yeah we knew that too. Suck it up and stop cheating the fans.

After watching Duke play four games in four nights, I'm more sympathetic to this viewpoint.


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Re: Curry, Thompson, and Green
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2017, 05:13:58 PM »

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A great article on the subject of sitting players at times like this:

"Kerr's call to rest stars on back-to-back part of modern NBA reality"

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18884059/science-brutal-travel-led-kerr-rest-stars

Suck it up, do you even know why you are being paid millions of dollars? Part of it is because of the huge demand of the game on your body. Now you want to cheat the fans by taking the money and 'prolonging' your playing career. Kerr should be ashamed of himself. If he really thought this through why did he not sit the players yesterday instead of the Saturday game where many fans could have planned activities around the nationally broadcast Saturday game. That article was long and repetitive, did not say much. Basically states that the schedule is brutal, yeah we knew that, it subjects the players to the risk of injury, yeah we knew that too. Suck it up and stop cheating the fans.

Since Steve Kerr will still be making millions of dollars after doing this, he clearly does know why he’s being paid millions of dollars, unlike basketball fans who don’t care if players on his team get injured.

What is the evidence that "resting" healthy players has any impact on future injuries?

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One has to be a member of jsams.org to see the full text, but the following is what is available for free.
"Game injuries in relation to game schedules in the National Basketball Association":
http://www.jsams.org/article/S1440-2440(16)30163-3/fulltext
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Abstract

Objectives
Injury management is critical in the National Basketball Association (NBA), as players experience a wide variety of injuries. Recently, it has been suggested that game schedules, such as back-to-back games and four games in five days, increase the risk of injuries in the NBA. The aim of this study was to examine the association between game schedules and player injuries in the NBA.

Design
Descriptive epidemiology study.

Methods
The present study analyzed game injuries and game schedules in the 2012–13 through 2014–15 regular seasons. Game injuries by game schedules and players’ profiles were examined using an exact binomial test, the Fisher’s exact test and the Mann–Whitney–Wilcoxon test. A Poisson regression analysis was performed to predict the number of game injuries sustained by each player from game schedules and injured players’ profiles.

Results
There were a total of 681 cases of game injuries sustained by 280 different players during the three years (total N = 1443 players). Playing back-to-back games or playing four games in five days alone was not associated with an increased rate of game injuries, whereas a significant positive association was found between game injuries and playing away from home (p < 0.05). Playing back-to-back games and away games were significant predictors of frequent game injuries (p < 0.05).

Conclusions
Game schedules could be one factor that impacts the risk of game injuries in the NBA. The findings could be useful for designing optimal game schedules in the NBA as well as helping NBA teams make adjustments to minimize game injuries.

From an ESPN article on the results of the study, with remarks from the person who did the research:
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"I think NBA games have changed," Teramoto says. "It's so athletic now. It's just unbelievable."

In a study provided to ESPN.com that will be published publicly in the Journal of Science and Medicine in Sport later this month, Teramoto researched three seasons of NBA injury data, from 2012-13 through 2014-15, in an attempt to determine if certain aspects of the schedule -- in particular, back-to-backs and travel -- led to players getting injured in games.

What Teramoto found surprised him: Back-to-backs alone are not associated with greater instances of in-game injury, but back-to-backs that are played on the road are significant predictors of in-game injury, generating 3.5 times the injury rate as those played at home.


The problem? Two out of every three back-to-backs are on the road.
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However, the NBA simply might have too many games in too short a span.

"As much as possible, we would recommend that the NBA consider avoiding the back-to-back games on the road," Teramoto said. "If there's not much they can do with an 82-game schedule, it might be time to consider drastically changing the structure of the schedule and cut, say, five games from the season."

Granted, road back-to-backs weren't the only predictors of in-game injury that Teramoto and his team found. Generally, away games were also associated with an increased risk of in-game injury as well as those back-to-backs that are played with 3-4 games in the previous five days. In the latter case, players had 3.3 times the rate of suffering injuries in back-to-backs compared with those who had played just 1-2 games in the same span.

Put simply, game density can make a dangerous situation even worse.
http://scores.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/17600760/dnp-rest-research-science-scheduling-sit-nba


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