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Trade Idea - Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« on: January 11, 2019, 09:20:10 AM »

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To Atlanta:
Hayward, LAC pick, Boston pick, Portland pick
out:
Lin, Prince, Carter, Dedmon, Dallas pick

why?
Atlanta adds a player to keep people in the seats and win them some games. Move down from the dallas pick to have 2 extra picks instead. Atlanta improves in the deal now and longterm.


Blazers in
Dedmon, Morris
out:
Nurkic, and pick

why?
Portland cuts down on their crushing salary while improving their frontcourt overall.

Boston in:
Nurkic, Lin, Carter, Prince and Dallas 1st
out:
Hayward, Morris, LAC pick, Boston pick

Why?
Boston takes large salary and and a shot searcher and instead adds depth and roll players. Move also consolidates 2 late picks and increases chances at another top 10 pick. Lin is an expiring but allows for a rozier trade. Moves saves Boston 6 mill in salary

Next is Rozier and Yabusele for Bender and a protected 1st

Irving/Lin/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart/Carter
Tatum/Prince/Semi
Horford/Theis/Bender
Nurkic/Baynes/Williams
« Last Edit: January 11, 2019, 01:44:57 PM by Silky »

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 09:43:14 AM »

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To Atlanta:
Hayward, LAC pick, Boston pick, Portland pick
out:
Lin, Prince, Carter, Dedmon, Dallas pick

why?
Atlanta adds a player to keep people in the seats and win them some games. Move down from the dallas pick to have 2 extra picks instead. Atlanta improves in the deal now and longterm.


Blazers in
Dedmon, Morris
out:
Nurkic, and pick

why?
Portland cuts down on their crushing salary while improving their frontcourt overall.

Boston in:
Nurkic, Lin, Carter, Prince and Dallas 1st
out:
Hayward, Morris, LAC pick, Boston pick

Why?
Boston takes large salary and and a shot searcher and instead adds depth and roll players. Move also consolidates 2 late picks and increases chances at another top 10 pick. Lin is an expiring but allows for a rozier trade. Moves saves Boston 6 mill in salary

Next is Rozier and Yabusele for Bender and a protected 1st

Irving/Lin/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart/Carter
Tatum/Prince/Semi
Horford/Theis/Bender
Nurkic/Baynes/Williams


Don't like that team, plus the Hawks have always been terrible in league attendance. Having a player like Hayward, who could bounce back could help, but Ainge wouldn't trade Hayward to the Hawks of all teams... Ainge has a history of sending off players like Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and other beloved Celtics to teams with playoff aspirations. Definitely never to any tank teams unless he really hates them.

We're also giving up Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, two picks for Bender, Carter, Prince, Lin, Nurkic, and Bender?

Yeah I'll pass...
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Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 09:44:15 AM »

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So how does this help the Cs exactly?

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 09:45:36 AM »

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So how does this help the Cs exactly?

We have to be patient with Hayward.

A healthy Hayward is better than quite literally most of the players we're getting back lol. Also Nurkic probably wouldn't fit on the Celtics.
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Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 10:06:56 AM »

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I read the title of this thread and thought it was injury related.

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 10:26:37 AM »

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To Atlanta:
Hayward, LAC pick, Boston pick, Portland pick
out:
Lin, Prince, Carter, Dedmon, Dallas pick

why?
Atlanta adds a player to keep people in the seats and win them some games. Move down from the dallas pick to have 2 extra picks instead. Atlanta improves in the deal now and longterm.


Blazers in
Dedmon, Morris
out:
Nurkic, and pick

why?
Portland cuts down on their crushing salary while improving their frontcourt overall.

Boston in:
Nurkic, Lin, Carter, Prince and Dallas 1st
out:
Hayward, Morris, LAC pick, Boston pick

Why?
Boston takes large salary and and a shot searcher and instead adds depth and roll players. Move also consolidates 2 late picks and increases chances at another top 10 pick. Lin is an expiring but allows for a rozier trade. Moves saves Boston 6 mill in salary

Next is Rozier and Yabusele for Bender and a protected 1st

Irving/Lin/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart/Carter
Tatum/Prince/Semi
Horford/Theis/Bender
Nurkic/Baynes/Williams


Don't like that team, plus the Hawks have always been terrible in league attendance. Having a player like Hayward, who could bounce back could help, but Ainge wouldn't trade Hayward to the Hawks of all teams... Ainge has a history of sending off players like Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and other beloved Celtics to teams with playoff aspirations. Definitely never to any tank teams unless he really hates them.

We're also giving up Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, two picks for Bender, Carter, Prince, Lin, Nurkic, and Bender?

Yeah I'll pass...

Prince is a good player. A jae crowder type.
Lin a 14 mill expiring
And you forgot to mention the dallas pick. Anither sure to be top 12 pick

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 10:27:49 AM »

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So how does this help the Cs exactly?

We have to be patient with Hayward.

A healthy Hayward is better than quite literally most of the players we're getting back lol. Also Nurkic probably wouldn't fit on the Celtics.

If hayward gets back.

A current hayward without the potential of bouncing back is not worth the player returning.

Gordon has had 2 good games all year. Not lookong good

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 10:33:30 AM »

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Ainge needs to do something.

There is a 30 million a year player that cannot play center, has a tough time playing PF and obviously cannot play in back to backs and a 30+ mill dollar player who passively comes off the bench that can only give 15, 5 and 6 per 36 minutes. Rozier gives that at a 10th the cost.

speaking of Rozier, he and morris are playing for contracts, not the name on the front of the jersey

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 10:59:34 AM »

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So how does this help the Cs exactly?

We have to be patient with Hayward.

A healthy Hayward is better than quite literally most of the players we're getting back lol. Also Nurkic probably wouldn't fit on the Celtics.

If hayward gets back.

A current hayward without the potential of bouncing back is not worth the player returning.

Gordon has had 2 good games all year. Not lookong good

You can’t actually believe that Hayward has only had two good games, can you?
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Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 11:17:24 AM »

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I thought we have another wave of injuries.

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 11:19:15 AM »

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So how does this help the Cs exactly?

We have to be patient with Hayward.

A healthy Hayward is better than quite literally most of the players we're getting back lol. Also Nurkic probably wouldn't fit on the Celtics.

If hayward gets back.

A current hayward without the potential of bouncing back is not worth the player returning.

Gordon has had 2 good games all year. Not lookong good

You can’t actually believe that Hayward has only had two good games, can you?

2 great games
the rest have either been garbage or 10000% replaceable at a fraction of the salary.

How many 30 mill per season games do you think he has put out?


Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 11:20:32 AM »

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I read the title of this thread and thought it was injury related.

Yup, me too. Should be changed.
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Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 11:21:55 AM »

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To Atlanta:
Hayward, LAC pick, Boston pick, Portland pick
out:
Lin, Prince, Carter, Dedmon, Dallas pick

why?
Atlanta adds a player to keep people in the seats and win them some games. Move down from the dallas pick to have 2 extra picks instead. Atlanta improves in the deal now and longterm.


Blazers in
Dedmon, Morris
out:
Nurkic, and pick

why?
Portland cuts down on their crushing salary while improving their frontcourt overall.

Boston in:
Nurkic, Lin, Carter, Prince and Dallas 1st
out:
Hayward, Morris, LAC pick, Boston pick

Why?
Boston takes large salary and and a shot searcher and instead adds depth and roll players. Move also consolidates 2 late picks and increases chances at another top 10 pick. Lin is an expiring but allows for a rozier trade. Moves saves Boston 6 mill in salary

Next is Rozier and Yabusele for Bender and a protected 1st

Irving/Lin/Wannamaker
Brown/Smart/Carter
Tatum/Prince/Semi
Horford/Theis/Bender
Nurkic/Baynes/Williams


Don't like that team, plus the Hawks have always been terrible in league attendance. Having a player like Hayward, who could bounce back could help, but Ainge wouldn't trade Hayward to the Hawks of all teams... Ainge has a history of sending off players like Pierce, Garnett, Rondo, and other beloved Celtics to teams with playoff aspirations. Definitely never to any tank teams unless he really hates them.

We're also giving up Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, two picks for Bender, Carter, Prince, Lin, Nurkic, and Bender?

Yeah I'll pass...

Prince is a good player. A jae crowder type.
Lin a 14 mill expiring
And you forgot to mention the dallas pick. Anither sure to be top 12 pick

The Hawks aren't giving up the Dallas pick...

Ainge needs to do something.

There is a 30 million a year player that cannot play center, has a tough time playing PF and obviously cannot play in back to backs and a 30+ mill dollar player who passively comes off the bench that can only give 15, 5 and 6 per 36 minutes. Rozier gives that at a 10th the cost.

speaking of Rozier, he and morris are playing for contracts, not the name on the front of the jersey

None of which is accurate, but okay.
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Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 12:08:15 PM »

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I thought we have another wave of injuries.

So did I- LOL...Are we going to trade our players after every loss this year? I did not realize we should never lose a a game on the road, not too mention after a home and road back to back in Miami.

Re: Hayward out, Morris Out...Rozier to follow
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 12:09:37 PM »

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As if last night's game wasn't bad enough, I saw this thread title and thought it was an updated injury report.   :o