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Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #75 on: January 18, 2021, 09:57:11 PM »

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Like you said, it's obviously too early, but the early electoral returns are not great.

Langford seems to be constantly injured and really hasn't played well since high school.

Nesmith is just too raw to say anything about other than that he appears to look like the most rookie of rookies.

One or both may develop into solid rotation players, but I wouldn't hesitate for a second to include them in a trade for a useful young player.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #76 on: January 18, 2021, 11:41:10 PM »

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Remember when 90% of the blog labeled Avery Bradley a bust?

I’ve learned to wait and see.
...and he ultimately turned out to be a player we shouldn't have invested any time in.

Yeah man wouldn't want to waste any time on arguably the best on the ball defensive guard in the NBA for 3 or 4 years.
I really hate investing time in guys who start for us on playoff teams! What a waste! ::)

And that's all we would get out of him.

I swear celtics fans don't care about winning as long as they've got a guy that will dive on the floor they're content... Doesn't matter if he can play they're entertained.

The problem with players like bradley is everything he does as a player, come playoff time there's guys that can do what he does but with more talent... And height.

I think your expectations might be a bit high.  The guy was a good starter.  Of course there are better players.  Hell, there are better players than Tatum.

It's not my expectations that are too high it's just seeing a player for what he is.

Does AB have a place in the NBA? Sure, there's 28 teams in the league.

When he was here he was serviceable, his abilities would've been maximized on a team like the spurs during that time but here he was exposed because he was asked to do more than what he was capable of.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #77 on: January 18, 2021, 11:57:04 PM »

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Remember when 90% of the blog labeled Avery Bradley a bust?

I’ve learned to wait and see.
...and he ultimately turned out to be a player we shouldn't have invested any time in.

Yeah man wouldn't want to waste any time on arguably the best on the ball defensive guard in the NBA for 3 or 4 years.
I really hate investing time in guys who start for us on playoff teams! What a waste! ::)

And that's all we would get out of him.

I swear celtics fans don't care about winning as long as they've got a guy that will dive on the floor they're content... Doesn't matter if he can play they're entertained.

The problem with players like bradley is everything he does as a player, come playoff time there's guys that can do what he does but with more talent... And height.

I think your expectations might be a bit high.  The guy was a good starter.  Of course there are better players.  Hell, there are better players than Tatum.

It's not my expectations that are too high it's just seeing a player for what he is.

Does AB have a place in the NBA? Sure, there's 28 teams in the league.

When he was here he was serviceable, his abilities would've been maximized on a team like the spurs during that time but here he was exposed because he was asked to do more than what he was capable of.

What was he exposed as?  A 16 ppg scorer with solid shooting who also played excellent defense?


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Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #78 on: January 19, 2021, 04:28:14 AM »

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Here's how Avery's career has unfolded along with his peers from the 2010 draft. As a #19 pick he's done pretty well for himself I would say. Not sure what people are expecting from a #19 or if anyone was picked lower who is significantly better.

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Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #79 on: January 19, 2021, 06:49:15 AM »

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Here's how Avery's career has unfolded along with his peers from the 2010 draft. As a #19 pick he's done pretty well for himself I would say. Not sure what people are expecting from a #19 or if anyone was picked lower who is significantly better.



And there are players picked higher who were significantly worse.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #80 on: January 19, 2021, 09:39:32 AM »

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Remember when 90% of the blog labeled Avery Bradley a bust?

I’ve learned to wait and see.
...and he ultimately turned out to be a player we shouldn't have invested any time in.

Yeah man wouldn't want to waste any time on arguably the best on the ball defensive guard in the NBA for 3 or 4 years.
I really hate investing time in guys who start for us on playoff teams! What a waste! ::)

And that's all we would get out of him.

I swear celtics fans don't care about winning as long as they've got a guy that will dive on the floor they're content... Doesn't matter if he can play they're entertained.

The problem with players like bradley is everything he does as a player, come playoff time there's guys that can do what he does but with more talent... And height.

I think your expectations might be a bit high.  The guy was a good starter.  Of course there are better players.  Hell, there are better players than Tatum.

It's not my expectations that are too high it's just seeing a player for what he is.

Does AB have a place in the NBA? Sure, there's 28 teams in the league.

When he was here he was serviceable, his abilities would've been maximized on a team like the spurs during that time but here he was exposed because he was asked to do more than what he was capable of.

What was he exposed as?  A 16 ppg scorer with solid shooting who also played excellent defense?

Exposed as a guy that's better suited for a team that has pieces in place and not a guy you build around or wait to see if he's going to be an all star. I think it was pretty obvious he was never going to be an all star.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #81 on: January 19, 2021, 10:10:46 AM »

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Here's how Avery's career has unfolded along with his peers from the 2010 draft. As a #19 pick he's done pretty well for himself I would say. Not sure what people are expecting from a #19 or if anyone was picked lower who is significantly better.



And there are players picked higher who were significantly worse.
Yeah in a redraft he would go somewhere around 10th, which makes that a very solid value pick at 19.  I think you could even argue him going as high as 7 with really only Cousins, Wall, George, Hayward, Favors, and Bledsoe being assuredly ahead of him with Bradley being in the group of Stephenson, Monroe, Whiteside, Turner, Aminu, Patterson.  Bjelica is making a late charge but he took like 5 years to come over so you'd rather have Bradley at this point.  Early on someone like Sanders looked like he was going to be very good and then he up and retires after 6 crazy years in the league.
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Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #82 on: January 24, 2021, 09:41:14 PM »

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Breakout game for Nesmith?

OK, I know it is only 1 game but he looked like an NBA player for the first time.  That is something to build on.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #83 on: January 24, 2021, 09:44:41 PM »

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Breakout game for Nesmith?

OK, I know it is only 1 game but he looked like an NBA player for the first time.  That is something to build on.

I was impressed by his ability to keep his composure and distribute off the dribble. It's good for his confidence to see shots fall, even if during garbage time.

Here's to hoping it's the start of something!!

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #84 on: January 24, 2021, 09:49:38 PM »

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Breakout game for Nesmith?

OK, I know it is only 1 game but he looked like an NBA player for the first time.  That is something to build on.

He's flashing some things, and IMO has been for a few games.

He hasn't found his three ball yet.  Even tonight, he had a bankshot that went in and an airball.  But he's starting to catch up with the game on defense, and he has more instincts putting the ball on the floor than scouting reports suggested (he was billed as a shooting specialist, and some reports claimed he had no dribble game at all). 

I like him, and by all accounts he's a hard worker.  I don't know if he'll break into the rotation this season, but I do think he can help us going forward.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #85 on: January 25, 2021, 01:38:21 AM »

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Breakout game for Nesmith?

OK, I know it is only 1 game but he looked like an NBA player for the first time.  That is something to build on.

He's flashing some things, and IMO has been for a few games.

He hasn't found his three ball yet.  Even tonight, he had a bankshot that went in and an airball.  But he's starting to catch up with the game on defense, and he has more instincts putting the ball on the floor than scouting reports suggested (he was billed as a shooting specialist, and some reports claimed he had no dribble game at all). 

I like him, and by all accounts he's a hard worker.  I don't know if he'll break into the rotation this season, but I do think he can help us going forward.

All of this. Am seeing exactly the same things. Nice to see him settling some.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #86 on: January 25, 2021, 08:54:15 AM »

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Nesmith's shot is a little scary right now, but I do love his effort and his ability to track loose balls. Those are two underrated qualities that I did not know he had. It looks like kind-of a lost season for him, but hopefully he will be able to gain more experience and confidence. He already has the body and [enough] athleticism.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #87 on: January 25, 2021, 09:56:16 AM »

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Nesmith showed off his shooting stroke against the Cavs.  Way too early to give up on this young man.

It's just that Pritchard coming out of the gates so well and looking such a heady player definitely overshadows Langford and Nesmith.  I'm willing to trade either of those younguns in a trade package for a veteran to improve the team.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #88 on: January 25, 2021, 11:18:52 AM »

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If Nesmith can play passable defense his presence on the court will make JT and JBs live so much easier.  You can see it in the Cav's game. Nesmith got an offensive rebound in the 2nd quarter kicked out then moved out beyond the 3 point line, JB drove to the basket and Nesmith's man (Osman) went to double JB on the drive but had to stay at home on Nesmith to prevent an open 3 to a good shooter.

JB got a good look and scored at the rim.

Re: How Bad Are the Nesmith and Langford Picks?
« Reply #89 on: January 25, 2021, 12:15:42 PM »

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If Nesmith can play passable defense his presence on the court will make JT and JBs live so much easier.  You can see it in the Cav's game. Nesmith got an offensive rebound in the 2nd quarter kicked out then moved out beyond the 3 point line, JB drove to the basket and Nesmith's man (Osman) went to double JB on the drive but had to stay at home on Nesmith to prevent an open 3 to a good shooter.

JB got a good look and scored at the rim.

He's a good fit and that's the reason I was so intent on getting shooters in this draft. Although Pritchard wasn't on my radar at the time, he's another good fit guy with the core duo. Still wish they could have added Bane for this reason as well.