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Around the League => Transaction Ideas and Rumors => Topic started by: perks-a-beast on April 06, 2018, 03:27:53 PM
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If Lakers get Paul George, which I think they will, they will have an easy time acquiring another star in free agency or via trade. PG is good friends with Cousins who can convince him to ditch the Pelicans - who are a first round exit at best even with Cousins- and to be the next great laker big man up on ball Mount Rushmore with The Shaqs and the Wilts and the Kareem's.
Here's what I'd do if I were the Lakers..
1. Get rid of Dengs horrendous contract, send out Ingram with him to fetch some young talent for better team depth. This will allow more financial flexibility to sign max deals.
Hypothetical trade: Ingram and Deng to Chicago for Valentine, Portis, 2019 1st (TOP 3 protected)
Sign George and Cousins Max deals
Re-sign Caldwell-Pope and Lopez (both better fit than isaiah Thomas for the Lakers)
How good would this hypothetical 2018-19 Lakers team be?
PG: Lonzo Ball , Tyler Ennis
SG. Caldwell-Pope , Josh Hart
SF: Paul George , Denzel Valentine
PF: Julius Randle , Kyle Kuzma
C: DeMarcus Cousins , Brook Lopez , Bobby Portis
Am I way off base here or does that look like a title team? ???
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Not a title team, but probably is a playoff team (assuming Cousins returns to form).
Are they better than the Warriors, Rockets, or Wolves?
What would be really interesting is if the Lakers could trade Deng, Kuzma, and/or Ingram for Leonard, then sign George and James.
Ball-George-James-Leonard is pretty deadly, and there are plenty of options to fill out the roster.
Especially when you consider how little money there is out there this off-season, superteams have an advantage because they can offer the same minimum, biannual, or mid-level exceptions as other teams for role players.
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If Lakers get Paul George, which I think they will, they will have an easy time acquiring another star in free agency or via trade. PG is good friends with Cousins who can convince him to ditch the Pelicans - who are a first round exit at best even with Cousins- and to be the next great laker big man up on ball Mount Rushmore with The Shaqs and the Wilts and the Kareem's.
Here's what I'd do if I were the Lakers..
1. Get rid of Dengs horrendous contract, send out Ingram with him to fetch some young talent for better team depth. This will allow more financial flexibility to sign max deals.
Hypothetical trade: Ingram and Deng to Chicago for Valentine, Portis, 2019 1st (TOP 3 protected)
Sign George and Cousins Max deals
Re-sign Caldwell-Pope and Lopez (both better fit than isaiah Thomas for the Lakers)
How good would this hypothetical 2018-19 Lakers team be?
PG: Lonzo Ball , Tyler Ennis
SG. Caldwell-Pope , Josh Hart
SF: Paul George , Denzel Valentine
PF: Julius Randle , Kyle Kuzma
C: DeMarcus Cousins , Brook Lopez , Bobby Portis
Am I way off base here or does that look like a title team? ???
They’re not trading Ingram to dump Deng, unless for Davis or Leonard.
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1st or 2nd round exit in the West.
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I don't know how good it will be in relation to teams like GSW, Houston, Boston, or Philly (with Lebron), but they should definitely do it if at all possible. Both players are legitimate max-level players in their prime. If the last two seasons, we had signed Cousins and George instead of Horford and Hayward (say they were never available), I think the vast majority of us would be rejoicing. I understand the contention over Cousins, but he would have signed here for 'free' without giving up prime assets.
I would be extremely nervous about them packaging everything else and coming up with Kawhi, but I guess that would be there prerogative. Hopefully getting rid of Deng would cause them to cough up otherwise necessary assets.
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Seeing thread titles about FA signings for the Lakers which may make them contenders again gives me agida every time I look at the Forum Topics. Why must we torture ourselves looking at agonizing Lakers hypotheticals. The Lakers are truly the only team in the NBA that can play the tank and cap-space game and be a certain contender.
Should be a NLA (No LA) option so that these forum topics don't display.
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Depends on how Ball improves.. But with Randall and Kuzma in the line up they can be really interesting..
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With that scenario that would give the Lakers roughly 30 mill to pay Randle, KCP, and Lopez. Is that enough money to pull it off?
*edit* and to answer the question, probably a 1st or 2nd round knockout. Personally i'd love to see the lakers lock into that team long term. no way that core wins it all, unless lonzo become a HOF caliber player, which i do not see happening.
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I think much of this hypothetical scenario, which I can certainly see happening at least insofar as George to LA is concerned, will be largely contingent on how well Cousins recovers from his ruptured achilles tendon injury, if he does, at all, as guys just are never the same after suffering such an ailment.
I mean, Cousins was already a mediocre defender, at best, prior to the injury, so I can't exactly see it helping his case, moving forward, making that potential Lakers team just awful on defense, George and KCP, I guess, and, to a certain extent, Lonzo, notwithstanding, of course, which kind of leaves George in the same situation in which he currently finds himself on the Thunder in being the only guy who plays any defense.
Personally, and while I know that this will never happen, I think that George should return to Indiana. Imagine a Pacers team with a starting lineup of Stephenson, Oladipo, George, Young (I guess, although this position really needs to be upgraded. Like significantly), and Turner, with guys like Bogdanovic and Sabonis coming off of the bench, for, well, starters. Is that team not a contender, at the absolute minimum, because I think that they could win it all, but I'm weird :-\.
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Going back to indy does look much more attractive for George, but he's made that decision and might want the LA lifestyle.
Be amazing if indy got him back.
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Not very, do either of these guys know what it takes to win on a consistent basis. They are fine racking up stats on so-so teams.
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I think much of this hypothetical scenario, which I can certainly see happening at least insofar as George to LA is concerned, will be largely contingent on how well Cousins recovers from his ruptured achilles tendon injury, if he does, at all, as guys just are never the same after suffering such an ailment.
I mean, Cousins was already a mediocre defender, at best, prior to the injury, so I can't exactly see it helping his case, moving forward, making that potential Lakers team just awful on defense, George and KCP, I guess, and, to a certain extent, Lonzo, notwithstanding, of course, which kind of leaves George in the same situation in which he currently finds himself on the Thunder in being the only guy who plays any defense.
Personally, and while I know that this will never happen, I think that George should return to Indiana. Imagine a Pacers team with a starting lineup of Stephenson, Oladipo, George, Young (I guess, although this position really needs to be upgraded. Like significantly), and Turner, with guys like Bogdanovic and Sabonis coming off of the bench, for, well, starters. Is that team not a contender, at the absolute minimum, because I think that they could win it all, but I'm weird :-\.
That team is definitely not gonna beat GSW or Rockets. It is certainly a possible contender in the Leastern Conference, but you would be hard pressed to find anyone scared on the Rockets or GSW team.
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I think much of this hypothetical scenario, which I can certainly see happening at least insofar as George to LA is concerned, will be largely contingent on how well Cousins recovers from his ruptured achilles tendon injury, if he does, at all, as guys just are never the same after suffering such an ailment.
I mean, Cousins was already a mediocre defender, at best, prior to the injury, so I can't exactly see it helping his case, moving forward, making that potential Lakers team just awful on defense, George and KCP, I guess, and, to a certain extent, Lonzo, notwithstanding, of course, which kind of leaves George in the same situation in which he currently finds himself on the Thunder in being the only guy who plays any defense.
Personally, and while I know that this will never happen, I think that George should return to Indiana. Imagine a Pacers team with a starting lineup of Stephenson, Oladipo, George, Young (I guess, although this position really needs to be upgraded. Like significantly), and Turner, with guys like Bogdanovic and Sabonis coming off of the bench, for, well, starters. Is that team not a contender, at the absolute minimum, because I think that they could win it all, but I'm weird :-\.
That team is definitely not gonna beat GSW or Rockets. It is certainly a possible contender in the Leastern Conference, but you would be hard pressed to find anyone scared on the Rockets or GSW team.
You mean my hypothetical Pacers team? I don't care about scaring anybody, lol, but a starting lineup of Stephenson, Oladipo, and George would be the best two-way combination, 1-3, in the league, would it not, and those guys would be, at least theoretically, anyway, be able to cancel out Curry, Thompson, and Durant, and Turner gives them that next scorer, not to mention Bogdanovic and Young, both of whom destroyed Golden State last night.
I don't know, man, with another player or two off of the bench, I think that that team could win it all, and as for their matchup with Houston, again, Lance, Oladipo, and George, should be able to best Paul and Harden, or have I gone off the rails, again, lol?
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Why don't the Celtics try to get Paul George in free agency?
Or, work out a sign and trade with OKC, if need be
Would much rather have PG than Kawhi Leonard. We already have one injury prone player, don't need another one.
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Trending news is that Cousins unfollowed the Pelicans on Instagram :o
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If Lakers get Paul George, which I think they will, they will have an easy time acquiring another star in free agency or via trade. PG is good friends with Cousins who can convince him to ditch the Pelicans - who are a first round exit at best even with Cousins- and to be the next great laker big man up on ball Mount Rushmore with The Shaqs and the Wilts and the Kareem's.
Here's what I'd do if I were the Lakers..
1. Get rid of Dengs horrendous contract, send out Ingram with him to fetch some young talent for better team depth. This will allow more financial flexibility to sign max deals.
Hypothetical trade: Ingram and Deng to Chicago for Valentine, Portis, 2019 1st (TOP 3 protected)
Sign George and Cousins Max deals
Re-sign Caldwell-Pope and Lopez (both better fit than isaiah Thomas for the Lakers)
How good would this hypothetical 2018-19 Lakers team be?
PG: Lonzo Ball , Tyler Ennis
SG. Caldwell-Pope , Josh Hart
SF: Paul George , Denzel Valentine
PF: Julius Randle , Kyle Kuzma
C: DeMarcus Cousins , Brook Lopez , Bobby Portis
Am I way off base here or does that look like a title team? ???
That team loses in the first round and gets blown up in 2-3 years.
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Cousins needs to go to Washington, who then need to trade Beal + Oubre to San Antonio for Leonard.
Wall, Leonard, Cousins could make some noise in the East.
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Also, smart money is on DeRozan landing in LA with PG. He could be had for Deng and Kuzma. Leonard can't.
Leonard's gonna fetch a CJ McCollum or a Bradley Beal, or a Ben Simmons (more likely Fultz and Saric). Point being, without Ingram, the Lakers cannot acquire Leonard.
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I object to any thread with "Cousins" and "lead" in the same sentence.
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lazy
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lazy
Huh? The Lakers team is lazy? I don't understand your "less than ambitious" post.
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I think the ultimate LA fantasy is George and Lebron sign there the Kawhi forces a trade there for Ingram and Ball and other stuff.
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I object to any thread with "Cousins" and "lead" in the same sentence.
What about "Cousing lead the league in technical fouls"? ;D
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Playoff team. That's about it honestly. Likely bounced first round, or second round at best.
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Cousins needs to go to Washington, who then need to trade Beal + Oubre to San Antonio for Leonard.
Wall, Leonard, Cousins could make some noise in the East.
Washington has no cap space to sign Cousins and he isn't going to take the MLE.
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Cousins needs to go to Washington, who then need to trade Beal + Oubre to San Antonio for Leonard.
Wall, Leonard, Cousins could make some noise in the East.
Washington has no cap space to sign Cousins and he isn't going to take the MLE.
S&T for Porter, who slots in pretty well with that NO lineup.
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How are the Pelicans “a first round exit at best” when they just swept the first round?
Regardless, I don’t see how well that team can do. Cousins is coming off a major injury that some never get back to what they were athletically. I don’t trust PG13 as a leader and definitely don’t trust Cousins.
I guess they can make the playoffs, yet Cousins was part of a team straddling the playoff picture with a much better player in AD. But I’d say they are definitely a first round exit at best.
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not a contender for sure.
maybe low mid seed playoff
not in the conversation to beat GS
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If Lakers get Paul George, which I think they will, they will have an easy time acquiring another star in free agency or via trade. PG is good friends with Cousins who can convince him to ditch the Pelicans - who are a first round exit at best even with Cousins- and to be the next great laker big man up on ball Mount Rushmore with The Shaqs and the Wilts and the Kareem's.
Here's what I'd do if I were the Lakers..
1. Get rid of Dengs horrendous contract, send out Ingram with him to fetch some young talent for better team depth. This will allow more financial flexibility to sign max deals.
Hypothetical trade: Ingram and Deng to Chicago for Valentine, Portis, 2019 1st (TOP 3 protected)
Sign George and Cousins Max deals
Re-sign Caldwell-Pope and Lopez (both better fit than isaiah Thomas for the Lakers)
How good would this hypothetical 2018-19 Lakers team be?
PG: Lonzo Ball , Tyler Ennis
SG. Caldwell-Pope , Josh Hart
SF: Paul George , Denzel Valentine
PF: Julius Randle , Kyle Kuzma
C: DeMarcus Cousins , Brook Lopez , Bobby Portis
Am I way off base here or does that look like a title team? ???
I mean, that is quite easily provably incorrect. Or did you miss them sweep the #3 seed?
And yeah you’re off base. That’s not even close to a title team. Easily worse than Houston and Golden State, probably worse than Utah and Minnesota
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I would love if this was the final roster in LAL. I like George as a player, but he isn't a superstar. As for Cousins, NOP got appreciably better after Cousins went down.
Lakers would be good enough to be a solid playoff team, but wouldn't win anything and wouldn't be able to acquire any more high picks or top FAs.
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I feel Lakers should try and trade for Drummond via Deng and Ingram. Sign PG and give IT a one year deal. It would really balance the starting 5 between scoring and defending.
IT, Ball, PG, Kuzma, Drummond