Celtics to trade Lee for Jerryd Bayless?

[Lucky17]

As part of the Lee-Bayless deal, Boston will send a future second round pick to Memphis. OKC gets a protected 2nd rounder in '17

OKC must be sending the Celtics cash. 

That 2017 #2 is probably top-55 protected or something of that nature (similar to the deals we made with Sacramento when we paid them to take Cassell's and POB's contracts, where they traded us #2s that we'll never see.)

A little disappointing/anticlimactic if Mannix is right.

[Lucky17]

If it is a 2017 2nd to OKC, I think it's Memphis'; Boston's is already conditionally owed to Brooklyn.

2017 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
If Boston exercises its right to swap its 2017 1st round pick for Brooklyn's 2017 1st round pick, then Boston will convey its 2017 2nd round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 31-45 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Boston's obligation to Brooklyn will be extinguished) [Boston-Brooklyn, 7/12/2013]; this potential pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2017 first round draft pick from Brooklyn" on Boston Credits

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

[Roy H.]

If it is a 2017 2nd to OKC, I think it's Memphis'; Boston's is already conditionally owed to Brooklyn.

2017 second round draft pick to Brooklyn
If Boston exercises its right to swap its 2017 1st round pick for Brooklyn's 2017 1st round pick, then Boston will convey its 2017 2nd round pick to Brooklyn protected for selections 31-45 (if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then Boston's obligation to Brooklyn will be extinguished) [Boston-Brooklyn, 7/12/2013]; this potential pick conveyance is the same as the one described in "2017 first round draft pick from Brooklyn" on Boston Credits

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

My guess is that it's the heavily protected 2017 pick from Sacramento.

[Lucky17]

Ah, right.

I'm OK with that, if so. Wyc's opened his checkbook a few times in the last several years; he's earned the right to make some of that money back.

[kozlodoev]

Gomes’ involvement in the deal appears to be a salary dump by Oklahoma City to help facilitate the trade and create a small amount of cap space, Stein reported. The Celtics are expected to waive the former Providence College star before the remainder of his $884,293 salary becomes guaranteed on Tuesday.

I'm confused with the whole Gomes situation. If he is non-guaranteed and can be waived today, how exactly is that saving OKC money? Can't they just waive him themselves?

[Roy H.]

Gomes’ involvement in the deal appears to be a salary dump by Oklahoma City to help facilitate the trade and create a small amount of cap space, Stein reported. The Celtics are expected to waive the former Providence College star before the remainder of his $884,293 salary becomes guaranteed on Tuesday.

I'm confused with the whole Gomes situation. If he is non-guaranteed and can be waived today, how exactly is that saving OKC money? Can't they just waive him themselves?

They would have saved whatever future salary he was owed.  However, the amount they had already paid him (say, $400k) would have counted toward OKC's cap and luxury tax.  Now, it counts against ours.  OKC probably sent some money along to compensate us.

[snowball]

good trade. Bayless is a scorer.

[vwoodruff]

It seems strange that the trade hasn't been finalized yet. I wonder whether Danny is checking in with Houston to see if they can make this a 4-team deal that finally nets Asik. It seems that the inclusion of Gomes could do just that:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=meqjy3v

Boston sends:

• Bass to HOU
• Lee to MEM
• 2015 #1 from LAC to HOU

Boston receives:

• Bayless from MEM
• Asik from HOU

Houston sends:

• Asik to BOS

Houston receives:

• Bass from BOS
• Franklin from MEM
• Gomes from OKC
• 2015 #1 from LAC via BOS

Memphis sends:

• Bayless to BOS
• Jamaal Franklin to HOU

Memphis receives:

• Lee from BOS

OKC sends:

• Gomes to HOU

OKC sends:

• future considerations (SAC 2nd via BOS)

This gives Houston the opportunity to move Asik without taking on the salary commitment to Lee/Bogans, while allowing the Cs to retain the expiring deals of Bogans, Crawford, and Humphries for other potential moves. This also keeps the Cs under the luxury tax.

[pearljammer10]

It seems strange that the trade hasn't been finalized yet. I wonder whether Danny is checking in with Houston to see if they can make this a 4-team deal that finally nets Asik. It seems that the inclusion of Gomes could do just that:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=meqjy3v

Boston sends:

• Bass to HOU
• Lee to MEM
• 2015 #1 from LAC to HOU

Boston receives:

• Bayless from MEM
• Asik from HOU

Houston sends:

• Asik to BOS

Houston receives:

• Bass from BOS
• Franklin from MEM
• Gomes from OKC
• 2015 #1 from LAC via BOS

Memphis sends:

• Bayless to BOS
• Jamaal Franklin to HOU

Memphis receives:

• Lee from BOS

OKC sends:

• Gomes to HOU

OKC sends:

• future considerations (SAC 2nd via BOS)

This gives Houston the opportunity to move Asik without taking on the salary commitment to Lee/Bogans, while allowing the Cs to retain the expiring deals of Bogans, Crawford, and Humphries for other potential moves. This also keeps the Cs under the luxury tax.

If Lee Bass and a first for Asik couldnt get it done I dont see how Bass and a first would. I feel that Bogans expiring would have to at least be included to be somewhat sppealing for Houston to make the deal. I think Houston can find a team that would give a much better return than Bass and a first.

[hwangjini_1]

Gomes’ involvement in the deal appears to be a salary dump by Oklahoma City to help facilitate the trade and create a small amount of cap space, Stein reported. The Celtics are expected to waive the former Providence College star before the remainder of his $884,293 salary becomes guaranteed on Tuesday.

I'm confused with the whole Gomes situation. If he is non-guaranteed and can be waived today, how exactly is that saving OKC money? Can't they just waive him themselves?

They would have saved whatever future salary he was owed.  However, the amount they had already paid him (say, $400k) would have counted toward OKC's cap and luxury tax.  Now, it counts against ours.  OKC probably sent some money along to compensate us.

thanks roy for clearing that up. i had the same question as kozy on this.

on a related question, is the reason the celtics are including gomes in this deal to make salaries match? or, is it doing a "favor" to OKC, which may pay off down the line? or both? or neither? 

[Evantime34]

I don't understand why this trade hasn't been announced yet

[Fafnir]

I don't understand why this trade hasn't been announced yet

Issues with the OKC three-way complicated addition probably scuttled the trade call yesterday afternoon.

I'd assume they've scheduled a trade call for today, until the trade call nothing is official.

[sed522002]

I don't understand why this trade hasn't been announced yet

Issues with the OKC three-way complicated addition probably scuttled the trade call yesterday afternoon.

I'd assume they've scheduled a trade call for today, until the trade call nothing is official.

Just announced it and he'll wear #11.

http://www.nba.com/celtics/news/press_release/celtics-acquire-jerryd-bayless

Marc D'Amico ‏@Marc_DAmico 3m
The Celtics' latest acquisition, point guard @jerrydbayless, will wear No. 11 with the Celtics.

[Snakehead]

And we seem to have officially cut Gomes.

[Endless Paradise]

Gomes’ involvement in the deal appears to be a salary dump by Oklahoma City to help facilitate the trade and create a small amount of cap space, Stein reported. The Celtics are expected to waive the former Providence College star before the remainder of his $884,293 salary becomes guaranteed on Tuesday.

I'm confused with the whole Gomes situation. If he is non-guaranteed and can be waived today, how exactly is that saving OKC money? Can't they just waive him themselves?

They would have saved whatever future salary he was owed.  However, the amount they had already paid him (say, $400k) would have counted toward OKC's cap and luxury tax.  Now, it counts against ours.  OKC probably sent some money along to compensate us.

thanks roy for clearing that up. i had the same question as kozy on this.

on a related question, is the reason the celtics are including gomes in this deal to make salaries match? or, is it doing a "favor" to OKC, which may pay off down the line? or both? or neither? 

Looks like Boston and Memphis tried to go through with the original deal, but I guess the league told them it couldn't work as intended. Calls were made, OKC got involved, gave the requisite filler in Gomes' contract to make the deal work.  I don't think this was a show of goodwill towards the Thunder as much as it was that Boston needed help, so they reached out to OKC.