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Atlanta Hawks - shake603
Boston Celtics - Birdman
Brooklyn Nets - DefenseWinsChamps
Outgoing: Lin, Carroll, Okafor, Stauskas, Dinwiddie
Incoming: Parsons, Deyonte Davis, Dillon Brooks, Snell, DJ Wilson, 2018 Bucks 2nd rounder
We wanted to sell-high on our rotation players, take on bad contracts, and receive young, high-upside players and draft assets.
Charlotte Hornets - Moranis
Outgoing: Kidd-Gilchrist, Williams, Batum, Walker, Zeller, CHA 2018 1st (lotto protected)
Incoming: Wiggins, Teague, Rubio, Faried, Bradley, Muhammad
When a trade for Wiggins materialized, we jumped at it and have built an excellent team surrounding our 3 young rising stars (Wiggins, Monk, and Kaminsky) with solid veterans to stay competitive.
Chicago Bulls - Somebody
Cleveland Cavaliers - jpotter33
Dallas Mavericks - CELTICSofBOSTON
Denver Nuggets - Humble G
Outgoing: Faried, Chandler, Arthur, Mudiay, 2018 DEN 1st, 2020 DEN 1st
Incoming:Harrison Barnes + MKG.
The goal was to add a possible Star while keeping the young core of the Nuggets intact.
Detroit Pistons - ChillyWilly
Golden State Warriors - saltlover
Outgoing: None
Incoming: None
Goals: Don’t break it, but try to get an asset while clearing a roster spot for buyouts.
Houston Rockets - JohnBoy65
Indiana Pacers - gift
LA Clippers - sirnastee
Los Angeles Lakers - gouki88
OUTGOING: Jordan Clarkson, Julius Randle, Larry Nance Jr., Josh Hart, Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, two first round picks, protections as follows: First pick protected 1-8 in 2020, 1-5 in 2021, unprotected in 2022. The second pick will be 1-8 in 2022, 1-5 in 2023, unprotected in 2024. Conveyance of the second pick to begin two years after the first pick.
INCOMING: DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, Cheick Diallo, Willy Hernangomez, Doug McDermott, 2018 Chicago 2nd, DeAndre Bembry, Malcolm Delaney, Isaiah Taylor, Luke Babbit, Atlanta 2018 2nd, $750k cash consideration
The main goal in LA was to clear cap space for big 2018 and 2019 summers, while keeping our young core together.
Memphis Grizzlies - CsBanner18
Miami Heat - DrJasper
Outgoing: Goran Dragic, Hassan Whiteside, Wayne Ellington, A.J. Hammons
Incoming: Otto Porter Jr, Dejounte Murray, Rudy Gay, Pau Gasol, 2018 & 2020 Spurs 1st's (unprotected)
Our goal was to get younger and build for the future, while still remaining competitive.
Milwaukee Bucks - A Future of Stevens
Outgoing: Jabari Parker, Mirza Teletovic, Kris Middleton, Eric Bledsoe, Thon Maker, DJ Wilson, Tony Snell
Incoming: Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green, Jared Dudley, Spencer Dinwiddie, Nik Stauskas, Jahlil Okafor
We jumped at the opportunity to acquire a 2nd top 5 mvp caliber player in Kawhi to pair with Giannis in addition to dumping long term salary and picking up a long term sixth man in Dinwiddie.
Minnesota Timberwolves - Bucketgetter
Incoming: Kemba Walker, Rodney Hood, Derrick Favors, Nic Batum, Jonas Jerebko, Treveon Graham, 2018 CHA 1st (Lottery protected)
Outgoing: Andrew Wiggins, Jeff Teague, Gorgui Dieng, Shabazz Muhammad, Justin Patton
create a much better fit around KAT/Butler, get another star in Kemba, create cap space for next year by acquiring expiring contracts, and adding a potentially very valuable pick to add another star.
New Orleans Pelicans - saltlover
Outgoing: Cousins, Asik, Nelson, Allen, Diallo, Cunningham, Clark,Cooke (released 2-way), 2018 1st (lottery protected, 2019 Top-10 protected, converts to 2nds in 2019 and 2020), 2018 2nd from Washington (also traded in mock deadline), 2019 2nd from Lakers or Minny (also traded in mock deadline), $2.5 million cash
Incoming: Vucevic, Nance Jr., Hart, Clarkson, Ilyasova, Dotson, Johnson, Bird (2-way), 2018 Boston 2nd round (top-55 protected), other 2nds listed above that were also traded away
Goals: Replace Boogie while competing for next two seasons so AD will stay for Supermax (eligible in July 2019), staying out of the luxury tax, improving depth, and not trading away future draft picks.
New York Knicks - Phantom255x
Outgoing: Noah, Lee, O'Quinn, McDermott, Hernangomez, Dotson, 2018 NYK First Rounder, 2018 2nd rounder via Chicago
Incoming: Randle, Shroder, Abrines, Singler, Huestis, 2022 OKC First Rounder (Lottery protected 2022, Top-8 protected 2023, unprotected 2024), 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder, $1.75M cash from Pelicans
We wanted to sell-high on some expirings and role players, get rid of any bad/detrimental contracts going forward, and acquire some future, high-upside players and some picks.
Oklahoma City Thunder - green_bballers13
Orlando Magic - Big333223
Outgoing: Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic, Jonathan Simmons, Sheldon Mack
Incoming: Evan Turner, Omer Asik, Joe Johnson, Ekpe Udoh, Caleb Swanigan, Portland’s 1st Rounder (top 7 protected 2018, 2019 and unprotected 2020), New Orleans 1st Rounder (top 14 protected 2018, top 10 in 2019, converts to a 2nd in 2019 and 2020), Utahs 2018 2nd round, 2018 Washington 2nd, 2019 2nd that is the lesser of Minnesota and Lakers
The Orlando Magic tried to get as many assets as possible for players that didn't fit that timeline while aligning our biggest contracts to expire together so we have cap space before those players all enter their primes.
Philadelphia 76ers - action781
Outgoing: TJ McConnell, Amir Johnson, 2018 PHI 1st round draft pick
Incoming: Avery Bradley, Boban Marjanovic
We wanted to parlay some of our future assets into players that could help us build a winning culture now without blowing up our long-term future or getting into the near-term luxury tax.
Phoenix Suns - Rodytur10
Outgoing: Monroe, Knight, Dudley, A.Williams, Bender, Chriss, Ulis, Canaan, '18 Phoenix 1st (1st selection prot.), '18 Milwaukee 1st, '18 Phoenix 2nd, '18 Milwaukee 2nd
Incoming: Jordan, Teletovic, Collison, J.Parker, Beverley, Leaf, J.Young
We felt that we needed to change the course and get some great veterans, who play consistent and can improve our defense, to lead our young stars into the playoffs next year.
Portland Trail Blazers - Csfan1984
Outgoing: Vonleh, Turner, Swanigan, 2018 1st (Top 7 protection two years).
Incoming: Fournier and draft rights to Karaman
Goal was to improve the team and get under the luxary tax.
Sacramento Kings - tazzmaniac
San Antonio Spurs - Quetzalcoatl
Toronto Raptors - celticsclay
Utah Jazz - DefenseWinsChamps
Outgoing: Gobert, Favors, Johnson, Rubio, Hood, Burks, Udoh, Jerebko, Sefalosa, Bradley, 2018 2nd
Incoming: Beal, Williams, Zeller, Dieng, Patton, Mahinmi, Mack, Simmons,
Goal: To build an exciting two-way team around Mitchell and Beal, with contracts that could be used to acquire a third star in the coming years.
Washington Wizards - gouki88
OUTGOING: Bradley Beal, Ian Mahinmi, Marcin Gortat, 2019 1st, 2018 2nd, Otto Porter Jr.
INCOMING: Goran Dragic, Tyler Johnson, Marco Belinelli, Dewayne Dedmon, Rudy Gobert, Alec Burks, Jameer Nelson
The Wizards were trying to do an on the fly reshaping of the team, as the chemistry issues and lack of success have been well documented, therefore we made moves in order to ensure both long term and short term success in the absence of Wall.
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I had a ton of fun doing this last year. I would like to be the Spurs.
Edit: Spurs are available. I switched to the Bucks.
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I take Boston
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Give me (puke) Cleveland.
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I'll be Washington
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I want Phoenix Suns. (changed it ;D)
Question: Do we negotiate in the topic or via PM?
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I want Orlando Magic.
Question: Do we negotiate in the topic or via PM?
PMs. Updated in the OP. Thanks!
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Are the GMs allowed to leak possible trades to gain an advantage? ;D
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Are the GMs allowed to leak possible trades to gain an advantage? ;D
Absolutely. Real or not. This forum acts like a news feed. All trades should be fake woj tweets. Who ya go hwangjini_1?
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Other takers?
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I'll take OKC!
And with that, PG13 is available! Entertaining all offers.
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I'll take OKC!
And with that, PG13 is available! Entertaining all offers.
Got it updated. No negotiating until the game begins. :)
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Gimme Chicago
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Utah
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Utah
Already been claimed. Second option?
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Utah
Already been claimed. Second option?
lol..everyone wants Utah..so did i
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The guy who starts the thread gets first dibs!
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...we will start Saturday night at 7 eastern time...
This is the exact point whee you lost me. LOL
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...we will start Saturday night at 7 eastern time...
This is the exact point whee you lost me. LOL
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C'mon folks pick a team!!! Its fun to do..need more players
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Pelicans please.
Everyone, even Davis, is available. Any offer that sends us into the luxury tax is DOA.
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clippers please! thanks!
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I’ll take the Grizzlies
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I will go with the Hornets since they have a lot of interesting things that can be done.
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18 teams left, including teams with a lot of assets, salary cap space, or interesting players who are rumored to be available.
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This sounds like fun. I'll take Philly - time for the rebuild to come to an end!
Hey Boston, wanna trade Jayson Tatum to me for Markelle Fultz? ;)
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When does it end?
I'd like to take Atlanta but I work that night, does it go beyond the one night?
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I'll take the Knicks, although I apologize in advance if I'm bad at it or seem clueless at times since this is the first time I'm doing it :P
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Surprise Lakers still out there
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Surprise Lakers still out there
I was thinking about LAL since I also have a decent amount of Lakers friends, but it would be so complicated since there are so many different things they could do and this is my first time doing this :P
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Surprise Lakers still out there
I was thinking about LAL since I also have a decent amount of Lakers friends, but it would be so complicated since there are so many different things they could do and this is my first time doing this :P
I'd do them if you want the Hornets, but they are probably just as complicated.
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Surprise Lakers still out there
I was thinking about LAL since I also have a decent amount of Lakers friends, but it would be so complicated since there are so many different things they could do and this is my first time doing this :P
I'd do them if you want the Hornets, but they are probably just as complicated.
Well I'm doing the Knicks and honestly have no clue what their direction is (rebuild? Small trades? Blockbuster like Kemba?) :P
We'll see what happens Saturday.
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15 teams left!
It will end at the regular trade deadline. ANY ACTUAL TRADES MADE BY ACTUAL TEAMS AFTER OUR STARTING TIME WILL NOT BE PART OF THIS COMPETITION.
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15 teams left!
It will end at the regular trade deadline. ANY ACTUAL TRADES MADE BY ACTUAL TEAMS AFTER OUR STARTING TIME WILL NOT BE PART OF THIS COMPETITION.
Oh, so it’s like 10 days long?
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15 teams left!
It will end at the regular trade deadline. ANY ACTUAL TRADES MADE BY ACTUAL TEAMS AFTER OUR STARTING TIME WILL NOT BE PART OF THIS COMPETITION.
Oh, so it’s like 10 days long?
Yeah. I'm open to changing that, but I think that's what we did last time. Some people are pretty busy. Giving it a week or so allows people to negotiate without taking away from the rest of their life.
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I'll take Orlando.
How do we negotiate? Using celticsblog PM's?
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I'll take Orlando.
How do we negotiate? Using celticsblog PM's?
And can trades be altered?
Like if a trade is agreed, can you then trade that acquired player again to another team in another trade (in real life you'd immediately call another GM, we need more time)?
And with more than 4 teams involved it's not possible to show it in the trade machine.
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I'll take Orlando.
How do we negotiate? Using celticsblog PM's?
And can trades be altered?
Like if a trade is agreed, can you then trade that acquired player again to another team in another trade (in real life you'd immediately call another GM, we need more time)?
And with more than 4 teams involved it's not possible to show it in the trade machine.
Negotiate using PMs. Any trade announcement made is final and cannot be amended. However, it is possible that the media catches wind of a trade in need of a possible third (or fourth) team to facilitate. Those should be announced as rumors. BE CAREFUL WITH RUMORS. SOMEONE MIGHT COME IN AND OUTBID YOU FOR YOUR PART IN THE TRADE.
To be clear -- Trade announcement is a final trade. Trade rumor is not final, but is a leaked story from the "media" to try to leverage into more assets or move a player to a 3rd team.
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I'll take Orlando.
How do we negotiate? Using celticsblog PM's?
And can trades be altered?
Like if a trade is agreed, can you then trade that acquired player again to another team in another trade (in real life you'd immediately call another GM, we need more time)?
And with more than 4 teams involved it's not possible to show it in the trade machine.
Negotiate using PMs. Any trade announcement made is final and cannot be amended. However, it is possible that the media catches wind of a trade in need of a possible third (or fourth) team to facilitate. Those should be announced as rumors. BE CAREFUL WITH RUMORS. SOMEONE MIGHT COME IN AND OUTBID YOU FOR YOUR PART IN THE TRADE.
To be clear -- Trade announcement is a final trade. Trade rumor is not final, but is a leaked story from the "media" to try to leverage into more assets or move a player to a 3rd team.
Where are these rumors announced?
And I'm not sure the question was answered, if you make a trade can you then trade that player to another team in a separate deal?
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I'll take Orlando.
How do we negotiate? Using celticsblog PM's?
And can trades be altered?
Like if a trade is agreed, can you then trade that acquired player again to another team in another trade (in real life you'd immediately call another GM, we need more time)?
And with more than 4 teams involved it's not possible to show it in the trade machine.
Negotiate using PMs. Any trade announcement made is final and cannot be amended. However, it is possible that the media catches wind of a trade in need of a possible third (or fourth) team to facilitate. Those should be announced as rumors. BE CAREFUL WITH RUMORS. SOMEONE MIGHT COME IN AND OUTBID YOU FOR YOUR PART IN THE TRADE.
To be clear -- Trade announcement is a final trade. Trade rumor is not final, but is a leaked story from the "media" to try to leverage into more assets or move a player to a 3rd team.
Where are these rumors announced?
And I'm not sure the question was answered, if you make a trade can you then trade that player to another team in a separate deal?
On this same topic. Sorry any confusion.
I think the NBA rule is that you can trade them again if you were under the cap when you received them in a trade. Is that correct saltlover?
We will follow what the CBA expert says.
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Do we use this thread as a trade block, or just pursue through PM?
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Do we use this thread as a trade block, or just pursue through PM?
You can post who is on your trade block on here.
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Do we use this thread as a trade block, or just pursue through PM?
You can post who is on your trade block on here.
Awesome.
Listening to offers on everyone, but Gortat, Beal and Scott are on the block
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I'll take Orlando.
How do we negotiate? Using celticsblog PM's?
And can trades be altered?
Like if a trade is agreed, can you then trade that acquired player again to another team in another trade (in real life you'd immediately call another GM, we need more time)?
And with more than 4 teams involved it's not possible to show it in the trade machine.
Negotiate using PMs. Any trade announcement made is final and cannot be amended. However, it is possible that the media catches wind of a trade in need of a possible third (or fourth) team to facilitate. Those should be announced as rumors. BE CAREFUL WITH RUMORS. SOMEONE MIGHT COME IN AND OUTBID YOU FOR YOUR PART IN THE TRADE.
To be clear -- Trade announcement is a final trade. Trade rumor is not final, but is a leaked story from the "media" to try to leverage into more assets or move a player to a 3rd team.
Where are these rumors announced?
And I'm not sure the question was answered, if you make a trade can you then trade that player to another team in a separate deal?
On this same topic. Sorry any confusion.
I think the NBA rule is that you can trade them again if you were under the cap when you received them in a trade. Is that correct saltlover?
We will follow what the CBA expert says.
Need to have everyone post their updated roster in conjunction with any posted trades, too.
Do you have a running list of what teams are left and who owns which team so far?
EDIT: Nevermind I saw it in the OP. When is the timeline for this again?
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Do we use this thread as a trade block, or just pursue through PM?
You can post who is on your trade block on here.
Awesome.
Listening to offers on everyone, but Gortat, Beal and Scott are on the block
Not starting yet! I'll announce when we are starting. Don't want anyone who hasn't claimed a team to be at a disadvantage.
jpotter - I'm hoping to fill out the rest of the teams tonight. Recruit some people to participate. I think we have 14 left. We will start no later than Saturday at 7 eastern, and sooner if we can get all the teams taken before then.
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Do we use this thread as a trade block, or just pursue through PM?
You can post who is on your trade block on here.
Awesome.
Listening to offers on everyone, but Gortat, Beal and Scott are on the block
Not starting yet! I'll announce when we are starting. Don't want anyone who hasn't claimed a team to be at a disadvantage.
Oops! Redacted for now
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I'll take the Kings.
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13 left! Still some interesting teams out there. Look at the OP for the list.
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I got a ton of time on my hands lately and enjoy a good challenge.
Give me Detroit and Woj's cell phone number.
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This sounds interesting.....lets try Denver?
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another DIFFERENT trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade as well/again (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
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11 teams left!
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
Ah okay, I get that. So basically if (in that example) Nick Young was traded, then it's illegal (not allowed) for the Golden State GM to deal Nick Young in another deal?
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
Ah okay, I get that. So basically if (in that example) Nick Young was traded, then it's illegal (not allowed) for the Golden State GM to deal Nick Young in another deal?
Correct. A trade announced is a done deal and the rosters in your profile signature should be updated accordingly.
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
Ah okay, I get that. So basically if (in that example) Nick Young was traded, then it's illegal (not allowed) for the Golden State GM to deal Nick Young in another deal?
Correct. A trade announced is a done deal and the rosters in your profile signature should be updated accordingly.
OH my bad I didn't read your entire OP I guess, I didn't know we had to put our rosters in the profile signature lol. I guess that makes everything easier to track.
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I'll start entertaining people who want to GM two teams. If you do, you obviously are not allowed to trade players from one team to another.
I will also take the Nets.
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
The player could be traded again if you’re over the cap. His salary just can’t be added to other players to take on something bigger.
That said, in the NBA there is a functional waiting period of a couple days between when players are traded due to NBA teams rarely waiving physicals. So you might want to consider having a day or so period before slowing the degrading of a newly acquired player.
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
The player could be traded again if you’re over the cap. His salary just can’t be added to other players to take on something bigger.
That said, in the NBA there is a functional waiting period of a couple days between when players are traded due to NBA teams rarely waiving physicals. So you might want to consider having a day or so period before slowing the degrading of a newly acquired player.
Thank-you. Let's just make it this:
You cannot trade a player you acquired during this mock trade deadline. If you don't want him, you better work a 3-team deal.
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Ill take the TWolves. Thanks for doing this!
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Just a heads up, the Spurs are available as a team. I switched to the Bucks.
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9 left. If you want a team and are a lurker, sign up for the forum and grab a team!
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I will take the Mavericks of Dallas.
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Warriors, Rockets, Pacers, Lakers Heat, Blazers, Spurs, and Raptors are left.
Anyone want to keep a second team?
By the way, everyone who signed up needs to put their roster in their signature.
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Warriors, Rockets, Pacers, Lakers Heat, Blazers, Spurs, and Raptors are left.
Anyone want to keep a second team?
By the way, everyone who signed up needs to put their roster in their signature.
I’ll take the Lakers as a second team, if nobody objects.
Will fix up my signature this evening
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I'll take the Spurs. If they're already taken, I'll take someone @ random
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I'll take Blazers
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Warriors, Rockets, Pacers, Lakers Heat, Blazers, Spurs, and Raptors are left.
Anyone want to keep a second team?
By the way, everyone who signed up needs to put their roster in their signature.
Done fixed the signature
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QUESTION.
What happens if say, for example, whoever has Golden State offers to trade Nick Young to the Knicks for Kyle O'Quinn, and it's posted here, but then another trade emerges (either two team trade or three-teamer) with Nick Young involved in the trade (from Golden State to another team). Then what happens? Is that allowed ???
(Again that's not an actual proposal, just an example for my question^)
I got you. Any TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT is final.
You could, for instance, do a TRADE RUMOR if you were looking for a third team to finish the trade. The problem with trade rumors is, of course, your trade partner may then get better offers than what you were offering, and you may miss out on other deals while you were trying to complete that one.
Also, the only way you can trade a player who you just acquired in a trade is if you were under the cap when you acquired them. Otherwise, it wouldn't be allowed under the CBA (again, saltlover, correct me if I'm wrong).
The player could be traded again if you’re over the cap. His salary just can’t be added to other players to take on something bigger.
That said, in the NBA there is a functional waiting period of a couple days between when players are traded due to NBA teams rarely waiving physicals. So you might want to consider having a day or so period before slowing the degrading of a newly acquired player.
Thank-you. Let's just make it this:
You cannot trade a player you acquired during this mock trade deadline. If you don't want him, you better work a 3-team deal.
Will you also add this rule to your OP. Also a TP for doing this. (and I will change my signature)
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Only 5 teams left. Anyone else willing to take a second team? Otherwise, none of those teams will be available for any trades.
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Only 5 teams left. Anyone else willing to take a second team? Otherwise, none of those teams will be available for any trades.
I’m hopeful that a few more people sign up. But assign one to me tomorrow morning if they aren’t filled yet.
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Only 5 teams left. Anyone else willing to take a second team? Otherwise, none of those teams will be available for any trades.
I’m hopeful that a few more people sign up. But assign one to me tomorrow morning if they aren’t filled yet.
Sane goes for me.
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I'll take on GSW as well since I'd expect a fairly quiet trade deadline from them. Although that team is up for grabs for anybody that wants to join in.
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Only 5 teams left. Anyone else willing to take a second team? Otherwise, none of those teams will be available for any trades.
I'm willing to take the Toronto Raptors as a second team if noone is interested.
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I will take the Houston Rockets
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I will take the Houston Rockets
You are in. 4 teams left!
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Toronto
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Not exactly sure how this works, but I'll take Indiana if they're still available.
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You guys are in. Rules are on the front page.
2 left. If anyone else is interested, I have two teams and the Nets can be taken too.
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I know there are still 2 spots left, but Charlotte is open for business. Everyone is available.
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I know there are still 2 spots left, but Charlotte is open for business. Everyone is available.
We will talk :) , but no negotiating quite yet in fairness to anyone else who may join. You will have a full week of negotiations soon.
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I take the heat! ;D
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
I mean hey, I'm sure you'd love to trade Lebron away from CLE and to a Western team @jpotter33 ;)
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
I mean hey, I'm sure you'd love to trade Lebron away from CLE and to a Western team @jpotter33 ;)
Just keeping my options open, brah! ;)
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
I mean hey, I'm sure you'd love to trade Lebron away from CLE and to a Western team @jpotter33 ;)
Great question. If its ok with everyone, I will decide if the player would wave their no-trade clause to the potential new team.
Just keeping my options open, brah! ;)
Don't know why that posted. If it is ok with everyone, I'll make the call on whether or not the player would wave their no-trade clause.
The team that would be receiving the player with the no-trade clause can make their pitch to me in PM. I will always lean toward allowing the trade if possible (unless its ridiculous).
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Warriors still left.
Also, the Nets and the Lakers are still technically left if you still want in.
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Warriors still left.
Also, the Nets and the Lakers are still technically left if you still want in.
If you have 2 teams could you trade with yourself??
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Warriors still left.
Also, the Nets and the Lakers are still technically left if you still want in.
If you have 2 teams could you trade with yourself??
No.
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
there aren't that many players that can veto trades. and there are actually 4 players that can't be traded at all (Curry, Harden, Wall, and Westbrook).
Here is a list. https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/08/players-who-can-veto-trades-in-201718.html
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
My opinion is for the guys with no-trade clauses in their actual contracts (LeBron and Carmelo), they should be unreadable. For guys who can’t be traded without their permission because of the CBA, we could have a vote as to whether they should be available or not, perhaps with some sub-categorization.
Those players are:
Kevin Durant
Dirk Nowitzki
Nerlens Noel
Alex Len
Shabazz Muhammad
Nicola Mirotic
Otto Porter Jr.
Nick Collison
Udonis Haslem
Ersan Ilyasova
Javale McGee
Mike Muscala
Jason Terry
Zaza Pachulia
David West
Dante Cunningham
I’d set them into a few groups. A few of these players have seemed to ask for trades:
McGee
Mirotic
Noel
Some are clearly not getting traded, because they are vets who took discounts to ring chase or finish their career with one team:
Durant
Dirk
Collison
Haslem
Pachulia
West
A couple are vets who would probably accept a trade to a better team than they are currently on:
Terry
Ilyasova
The rest are younger players whom I think wouldn’t veto if they were going to a place they could get a bigger role, but I’m not sure:
Porter
Len
Cunningham
Muhammad
Muscala
So in my opinion, that’s three players who will go anywhere, 6 who veto, two who go to contenders, and five who will go somewhere where they can likely get a chance to see more playing time to play for a contract or become a second option instead of 3rd or 4th (Porter).
Thoughts?
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Is it alright if I make the call (following the basic guideline above)? ^^^
Still need people for the Warriors, Lakers, and Nets.
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Is it alright if I make the call (following the basic guideline above)? ^^^
Still need people for the Warriors, Lakers, and Nets.
You’re the commissioner!
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Is it alright if I make the call (following the basic guideline above)? ^^^
Still need people for the Warriors, Lakers, and Nets.
You’re the commissioner!
Hopefully more Adam Silver than Roger Goodell
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Is it alright if I make the call (following the basic guideline above)? ^^^
Still need people for the Warriors, Lakers, and Nets.
You’re the commissioner!
Hopefully more Adam Silver than Roger Goodell
Let's get this going. I can take the Lakers as well. I'm sure someone else can take the Warriors.
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Is it alright if I make the call (following the basic guideline above)? ^^^
Still need people for the Warriors, Lakers, and Nets.
You’re the commissioner!
Hopefully more Adam Silver than Roger Goodell
Let's get this going. I can take the Lakers as well. I'm sure someone else can take the Warriors.
We already have someone taking the Lakers as a second team. I was trying to get 30 people, each with their own team.
I wanna give everyone a chance to start at the same time. If guys are at work right now, they won't have a chance to get in on any deals until they get back on the forum.
We will start no later than Tomorrow at 7 eastern, and you will have a week to make deals. Plenty of time.
We need someone to take the Warriors. Ideally we'd also get people to take the Nets and Lakers too, as currently some users have a 2nd team.
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saltlover, can you take the Warriors also?
Moderators, you can move this thread to Fantasy Draft Topics
Team rosters are now locked-in. Any actual NBA trades are not reflected in this mock trade deadline, unless all parties are in agreement.
You may begin negotiations now (since so many of you are chomping at the bit), but NO TRADES MAY BE FINALIZED OR ANNOUNCED UNTIL TOMORROW AT 7PMest.
Everyone needs to update the signature of their profile similar to mine. List your players and draft assets. If you are lazy, at least list a link to realgm for your draft assets, like I did. Once you finalize a trade, update your signature to reflect your team.
Use this forum to announce trades and/or rumors, but negotiate only through PMs! You must use an ESPN trade machine link to prove your trade is legit.
You may not trade a player you acquire during this mock trade game. If you don't want him, work a 3-team deal to send him elsewhere before you announce the trade.
TPs to anyone who uses fake ESPN headlines, WOJ tweets, or anything like that.
Let the negotiations begin!
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WOJ: Two teams that are willing to take on longer contracts for their expiring contracts are the Nets and the Jazz. Looking for assets or rotation players.
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saltlover, can you take the Warriors also?
Moderators, you can move this thread to Fantasy Draft Topics
Team rosters are now locked-in. Any actual NBA trades are not reflected in this mock trade deadline, unless all parties are in agreement.
You may begin negotiations now (since so many of you are chomping at the bit), but NO TRADES MAY BE FINALIZED OR ANNOUNCED UNTIL TOMORROW AT 7PMest.
Everyone needs to update the signature of their profile similar to mine. List your players and draft assets. If you are lazy, at least list a link to realgm for your draft assets, like I did. Once you finalize a trade, update your signature to reflect your team.
Use this forum to announce trades and/or rumors, but negotiate only through PMs! You must use an ESPN trade machine link to prove your trade is legit.
You may not trade a player you acquire during this mock trade game. If you don't want him, work a 3-team deal to send him elsewhere before you announce the trade.
TPs to anyone who uses fake ESPN headlines, WOJ tweets, or anything like that.
Let the negotiations begin!
Sure, I can take the Warriors. Pels and Dubs aren’t looking to trade with each other.
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WOJ: Sources tell ESPN that there is internal debate within the Pelicans organization whether to consider offers for both Anthony Davis and DeMarcus Cousins. The supporting cast has been decimated by injuries, and ownership is unhappy with results despite flirting with the luxury tax. On the other hand, the coaching staff is adamant they can position this team for playoff success with one or two more healthy players. It could go either way in the Big Easy, and their phone lines are open.
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You may not trade a player you acquire during this mock trade game. If you don't want him, work a 3-team deal to send him elsewhere before you announce the trade.
Are you allowed to waive a player you traded for to free up the roster spot for another trade?
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We should also clarify some criteria for voting after the deadline ends. I think last time we just voted on who we thought did the best for their team, regardless if that was putting the team into current contention or setting them up for down the line.
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You may not trade a player you acquire during this mock trade game. If you don't want him, work a 3-team deal to send him elsewhere before you announce the trade.
Are you allowed to waive a player you traded for to free up the roster spot for another trade?
It would make sense that you should be able to, although any team that does that with a player who has much guaranteed beyond this season won’t earn any “good trading” votes from me.
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Charania: I can verify the McMenamin report about the Cavs locker room not feeling capable of winning it all this season. There is significant concern that Lebron leaves for nothing this summer once again. While it's still most likely that the Cavs try to upgrade this current roster and give it one last shot to convince Lebron to stay, there is a general feeling around the league that the Cavs might hold a firesale if they can't find a deal that they feel will let them compete with the Warriors and convince James to stay. This includes shopping Lebron to certain select teams that he has expressed willingness to facilitate a trade to.
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WOJ: Sources tell ESPN that Washington is actively shopping both Beal and Gortat. Ownership is disappointed with the results of the Wall-Beal backcourt, and want change. Gortat and his stat chasing antics are also unwelcome in D.C. Nobody is off limits in Washington, sources report.
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Woj: Sources are telling ESPN that Danny Ainge still doesn't believe Gordon Hayward will play this season..with that saying, it's believe that the Celtics are looking for a bench scorer and possibly another big to come off the bench..waiting for buyouts could not come as other teams are still seeing if they can be playoff contenders or not..also C's has Hayward injury money
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You may not trade a player you acquire during this mock trade game. If you don't want him, work a 3-team deal to send him elsewhere before you announce the trade.
Are you allowed to waive a player you traded for to free up the roster spot for another trade?
Sure.
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We should also clarify some criteria for voting after the deadline ends. I think last time we just voted on who we thought did the best for their team, regardless if that was putting the team into current contention or setting them up for down the line.
Its whoever did most with their assets.
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WOJ: Mavericks are open to offers on Wesley Matthews who they believe has great value to playoff teams. Also taking offers on Nerlens Noel who still has upside.
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Dutch anonymous news reporter: ''Apparently Phoenix' owners don't believe that their team is good enough to attract superstar free agents. Therefore they are willing to use their future cap space to absorb big contracts. How this will help the team is unclear.''
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Danny should be on the phone with Dallas, offering the full DPE (with a wink wink agreement with Noel to re-sign a one year deal to increase his value) and whoever....Nader and a couple 2nd rounders.
Painfully obvious after the LA games that another big should be our 1B biggest need besides bench scoring. Noel is by far the best option for our scheme.
Once Memphis bottoms out officially, we should then offer Yabu and our 2018 1st for Tyreke Evans.
If Danny is saying Hayward is for sure not coming back, then the team THIS YEAR needs a temporary option for another scorer. Evans would be a much better 6th man, and can obviously spot start as well.
This team is too good right now to not try to make a couple smaller moves to compete for a title.
I don't view the outbound assets as viable rotation options for next season. Sucks offering up a 1st rounder and Yabu for Tyreke, but looking at it as:
Yabu, Nader, 2018 1st, and two 2nds
For
Evans and Noel
Looks pretty freaking sweet. The DPE is a gift. Let's maximize its potential!
New rotation:
Kyrie/Smart/Rozier/Larkin
Brown/Evans/Smart/Rozier
Tatum/Evans/Morris
Horford/Morris/Theis/Semi
Baynes/Noel/Theis
That is a dope rotation. Noel and Baynes can switch starting depending on the opponent, and Horford can play his natural 4 position virtually the entire game. We improve our bench scoring, defense and rebounding down low, and provide more versatility with lineup options, which have stagnated quite a bit.
Horford/
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Danny should be on the phone with Dallas, offering the full DPE (with a wink wink agreement with Noel to re-sign a one year deal to increase his value) and whoever....Nader and a couple 2nd rounders.
The DPE isn't a trade asset. It is an exception that allows Boston to acquire a player on a single year contract for up to 8.4M.
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Who needs a bench spark? Yogi Ferrell is averaging 10.5 ppg shooting 45% and 41% from three while leading a surprising potent Mavericks second unit offense. Could be huge for a contender with a weak bench for the right offer.
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Per Woj: The Rockets are looking at possible upgrades to their roster for a playoff push to dethrone the warriors this year. Rockets believe they can do this 1 of 2 ways: with another elite scorer or some defensive minded players
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Shams: League sources tell Yahoo Sports that Harrison Barnes is "not off the table."
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WOJ: Sources tell ESPN that the LA Lakers are looking to dump any salary they can in order to have a big summer. Nobody is off the table, besides.
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Reports are the Timberwolves think they can compete now, and are looking to improve their point guard position. Young prospects are not off the table..
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Per Woj: The Miami Heat might be willing to move Hassan Whiteside and Goran Dragic for the right price, they are looking for young talent and picks.
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" Denver GM is really pushing for another Star to pair with Jokic. The Nuggets also need to clear cap space to be able to resign Jokic in the offseason, so shedding salary and expiring contracts are a high priority in any possible trade. GM Artūras Karnišovas really thinks the Time is NOW for Denver as they are set to make the playoffs especially after hearing the news in NO." -Mile High Deli Guy
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Stephen A Smith: "OKC is in complete disarray. Russell Westbrook, Paul George, Steven Adams, and Carmelo Anthony want out. Also I have the highest IQ and best words."
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WOJ: Sources tell ESPN that the LA Lakers are looking to dump any salary they can in order to have a big summer. Nobody is off the table, besides.
Besides who?
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Stein: The Kings are all in on their youth movement. Although they are focused on moving their veterans, they will listen to offers for everyone besides Fox. They will consider taking on bad contracts for young prospects or picks. Privately, one team official expressed dismay that their team, which has the worst rated offense and defense, isn't in a stronger position for the 2018 draft.
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Stephen A Smith: "OKC is in complete disarray. Russell Westbrook, Paul George, Steven Adams, and Carmelo Anthony want out. Also I have the highest IQ and best words."
Westbrook can't be traded, just keep that in mind.
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Stephen A Smith: "OKC is in complete disarray. Russell Westbrook, Paul George, Steven Adams, and Carmelo Anthony want out. Also I have the highest IQ and best words."
Westbrook can't be traded, just keep that in mind.
Fairly sure there was a bit of satire in that post, mimicking the complete cluelessness Stephen A. spews.
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ESPN: Woj is reporting that some teams are asking for Memphis future pick, which the Celtics owned, but Danny is reluctant to trade it....as of now
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Stephen A Smith: "OKC is in complete disarray. Russell Westbrook, Paul George, Steven Adams, and Carmelo Anthony want out. Also I have the highest IQ and best words."
Westbrook can't be traded, just keep that in mind.
Fairly sure there was a bit of satire in that post, mimicking the complete cluelessness Stephen A. spews.
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Ian Begley: "The Knicks are leaning towards consolidating future assets and are shopping around O'Quinn, Hernangomez, McDermott, Lance Thomas, Kanter and Courtney Lee, for the right price. They are still keeping their options open though (such as acquiring a star to go alongside Porzingis), but sources tell me that's where they are leaning as of today. They do feel a need to unload a center and that will be one of their key priorities."
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Stephen A Smith: "OKC is in complete disarray. Russell Westbrook, Paul George, Steven Adams, and Carmelo Anthony want out. Also I have the highest IQ and best words."
Westbrook can't be traded, just keep that in mind.
Fairly sure there was a bit of satire in that post, mimicking the complete cluelessness Stephen A. spews.
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A TP to both of you. I was trying to figure out how to get Stephen A. to say something completely clueless about the Kings but there completely clueless too. If a clueless journalist says something about a clueless org, does that make it the truth?
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Woj: The Rockets remained very active in talks with several teams to acquire another star on their team. They're still interested in making sure the Western Conference isn't Golden State's playground.
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McMenamin: I'm hearing Love is being seriously discussed in several different trade scenarios, one of which has been gaining serious traction in the last several minutes.
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New Orleans (AP) — Still reeling from the shocking loss of DeMarcus Cousins, the New Orleans Pelicans announced today the removal of long-time general manager Dell Demps. “We thank Dell for his many years of service,” said Pelicans’ President Dennis Lauscha, “but here in New Orleans, we do believe in curses. This organization has been snake-bit for some time, and DeMarcus was our fourth player to go down with a season-ending injury this year. Dell has been here the longest, so we think he might be the one who’s cursed, and it’s time to move on.”
Continuing to surprise the NBA, the Pelicans announced their replacement hire by his internet moniker of saltlover. “I haven’t met him yet, but he seems very knowledgeable about the salary cap. What have we got to lose?” said Lauscha.
Reached via e-mail, saltlover said he would “explore every opportunity to turn this team around.” When asked if that would include trading superstar big man Anthony Davis, he replied “Anthony wants to win. I want to win. He wants to win in New Orleans. We want him to win in New Orleans. My job is to explore every avenue to get us to becoming a wining franchise.”
Meanwhile, there are unconfirmed reports that saltlover has entertained offers for Davis, but when pressed, he responded “if we make a trade there will be a press release. If we don’t, there won’t be.”
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Woj: I have it on great authority that Paul George has called a real estate office in OKC. Word is that he might potentially think about moving somewhere "sunny".
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WOJ: Sources tell ESPN that the LA Lakers are looking to dump any salary they can in order to have a big summer. Nobody is off the table, besides.
Besides who?
WOJ: I don’t know what happened there. I’ll blame my phone ;)
It should have read “besides Kuzma and Ingram, but LA is still listening to offers on those two”
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WOJ: The Memphis Grizzlies have yet to indicate a willingness to part with veteran center Marc Gasol. They’d still prefer to keep Gasol and Conley, while potential adding a high lottery pick. There’s a growing sense around the league that Gasol can be had if Memphis is wowed with a rebuilding package—including: young prospects/draft picks.
Remember, the Grizzlies still owe their own 2019 first round pick (protected top-8) to the Boston Celtics—which has a bunch of complicated protections—and could eventually become an unprotected first in 2021. Memphis wants to minimize the value of the pick owed to Boston.
TYREKE EVANS is said to be available to the highest bidder at the deadline. The Grizzlies are looking for a young prospect/first round pick to get negotiations started.
There are also whispers that the Grizzlies may be willing to part with draft picks to get rid of Chandler Parsons’ unwanted salary.
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Breaking news out of New Orleans:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
Statements from the Lakers and Pelicans will follow shortly.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd)
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Breaking news out of New Orleans:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
Statements from the Lakers and Pelicans will follow shortly.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd)
Bravo Lakers organization and Pelicans organization. Terrific move by both sides.
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Statement from New Orleans Pelicans:
We would like to thank DeMarcus Cousins for his terrific basketball this past year. He took his game to a new level, and helped carry this team to it's best work this decade. We are devastated for his injury, but know based on the competitive spirit and effort he showed this season that he will return to continue his stellar career sooner than later.
Unfortunately we were left with a difficult decision, and chose to trade DeMarcus to honor the work that he and the rest of the team have put in this year. We have been very impressed with the play of Clarkson, Nance, and Hart this season, and expect they will join this team to both make it to and advance in the playoffs.
As part of the deal, the Pelicans noted that they will receive a $6.5 million trade exception.
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Woj: The Knicks are throwing out feelers to teams, letting them know that Kyle O'Quinn and Hernangomez are available for a mid-late first round pick. Other names available for the right price include Kanter, Lance Thomas, Courtney Lee, and Doug McDermott. However, things could change in this market and depending on what stars emerge as trade targets, Knicks will approach diligently. But O'Quinn and Hernangomez are truly available, preferably for a mid-to-late first round pick.
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Los Angeles Lakers Statement:
We're about winning. That's the ultimate goal here in LA. Winning requires risk taking. We know that DeMarcus is hurt right now, but we're willing to take that risk. We all know what DeMarcus can do (basically everything). We're also in this for the long haul. Getting his Bird Rights was something we were very high on. He's one of the best passing bigs in the game, and we're looking forward to thrall movement he'll provide alongside Lonzo.
Diallo is an athletic low risk big. We're looking forward to what he can do, but we're not going to pressure him.
Tony Allen is Tony Allen. Any minutes he can give alongside Lonzo and Brandon will be much appreciated.
We'd like to thank Jordan, Larry and Josh for their contributions. Despite a season with considerable controversy associating the Lakers, they always put in good work for Coach Walton.
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Breaking news out of New Orleans:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
Statements from the Lakers and Pelicans will follow shortly.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd)
Somehow, it feels like both teams lost this trade.
Although I do like Nance.
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Breaking news out of New Orleans:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
Statements from the Lakers and Pelicans will follow shortly.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd)
Somehow, it feels like both teams lost this trade.
Although I do like Nance.
Interesting. I’m not going to pretend to speak for New Orleans, but I find it mutually beneficial. New Orleans gets one of the best scoring guards off the bench, plus some wing depth and big depth. We at LA get to get a low risk prospect, one of the grittiest guards in the NBA, and DMC. Demarcus may be high risk, but when he’s healthy he’s a top 10 player in the league. Even if he comes back less physically dominant, he’s still an elite scorer from everywhere, as well as a great passer.
Not sure where the loss comes from
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Like it for new Orleans..Davis and Holiday with Nance, Clarkson, Moore and Rondo is not bad
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Breaking news out of New Orleans:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
Statements from the Lakers and Pelicans will follow shortly.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd)
Somehow, it feels like both teams lost this trade.
Although I do like Nance.
Honestly, I don't think either team lost the trade, but neither team is a clear cut winner as well. Time will tell, and so will the extent of Cousin's injury (meaning how will he be when he comes back next season, tough to tell). Lakers probably get 1 of their 2 max guys for next season in Cousins, while Pelicans get Clarkson and Nance, along with a nice young prospect. It also has to do with the cap implications since they would have had to re-up Cousins this summer and were low on cap space I believe.
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Breaking news out of New Orleans:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
Statements from the Lakers and Pelicans will follow shortly.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd (http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd)
Somehow, it feels like both teams lost this trade.
Although I do like Nance.
I feel similarly. Right *now* I think both teams lost, but I expect these moves could both be wins after seeing additional moves.
NOP had an interesting strategy going for them with the two dominant big man frontcourt. They've now gone from two superstars to a lone superstar to build around and I just don't see the means there to build around AD without any good draft picks in their pocket and with Jrue, Asik, and Hill's contracts still on their books. I do like Nance a lot, but I don't think any of the players acquired will ever come close to being an all-star level player. I'd be interested in hearing more about their plan to build with this group... or maybe they have more trades in mind. I don't hate that they got rid of Boogie rather than hand him a terrible contract this offseason. Maybe I just would have hoped they attached a bad contract to him or got better young talent in return. In their quest to build around AD in the past 12 months, they turned Buddy Hield, Tyreke Evans, and first and second round picks into Clarkson, Nance, and Hart. They were dealt a rough hand though since they acquired a healthy Cousins but had to trade an injured one. My overall take: they had a crappy situation to begin with, made it slightly better, but still have work to do.
For LAL, the Boogie bird rights is irrelevant because they will be under the cap next season, so will have a cap hold on him until he signs. I think they are still just short of space for another max contract offering, but that could be achieved with some more moves. My big thing is... they could have just signed Boogie in FA next offseason. What advantage have they secured in his long term future there by making this trade? If none, then why lose Nance and Hart in a trade for him? If more moves are in their plans, then this trade could end up looking like a huge win I will say. Also, I'm not sure I love the fit with Lonzo and Boogie. Boogie wants to be fed the ball. Lonzo wants the ball to move around a lot. Lonzo wants to run, Boogie wants to walk. Lance was a great fit with Lonzo.
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Surprised by the comments. Seems like a clear win for the Lakers. They get by far the best player, a top 20 player albeit injured. They get rid of Clarkson's contract without giving up anything of significance. Cousins being in his last year of his contract is a plus. If the Lakers can somehow move Deng without taking much salary back, they could potentially get Lebron and George and let Cousins walk.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
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Can there be a few days where no trades can go in? It makes this not work well imo
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Reports are the Timberwolves are looking to find a better fit at point guard. Jeff Teague is available, and even watch out for Andrew Wiggins’ name to be brought up in conversations..
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Can there be a few days where no trades can go in? It makes this not work well imo
LOL this is my first time doing this and I already kind of feel overwhelmed.
I can only imagine how the real GMs feel :o
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How long is this going to last?
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Breaking news out of Los Angeles:
LA traded Julius Randle to the New York Knicks, in exchange for Willy Hernangomez, Doug McDermott, and the 2018 Chicago 2nd round draft pick.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybygzls8
Team statements will be released shortly.
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Breaking news out of Los Angeles:
LA traded Julius Randle to the New York Knicks, in exchange for Willy Hernangomez, Doug McDermott, and the 2018 Chicago 2nd round draft pick.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybygzls8
Team statements will be released shortly.
Since this is a 2 for 1 trade, someone will need to be released to free up a roster spot. I'd assume Nigel Hayes since he's on a 10 day contract.
Edit: BTW, another nice trade for you. Even though acquired players can't be traded in this exercise, I'd assume acquired picks could be.
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To give some non-PR thoughts on why I did this, and why I think the real Pels should do this (although they won’t):
1). They cant resign Boogie. Achilles injuries are bad stuff. Players simply don’t return to their prior form after them, and certainly not within a year. He’s getting a max deal from someone (more on that later). And if the Pels max him, they’ll be over the luxury tax with only ten players on their roster. They could go into the tax for a healthy Boogie, but not one who’s missing at least half the season. They’d miss the playoffs. It would also put them over the tax line the following season.
2) If they let Boogie walk, (or he just signs elsewhere) they still have no cap room to replace him. So that’s even worse. AD certainly wouldn’t be happy.
3) The solution to the above could be dumping bad salaries via trade. But the Pels have little to offer in order to dump contracts. Including Hield, they’ve traded away all their 1sts going back to Anthony Davis. 4 of their last 5 were traded on draft night or in advance of the draft. Trading a pick to get rid of an unaffordable contract isn’t going to advance this team.
4) Given that, I felt the Pels needed to trade Boogie. And ultimately, I like the players received to varying degrees. Clarkson can play on or off ball, which means he can play with any of the other guards in New Orleans backcourt. They already have a 3-guard starting rotation as is, and he’ll fit right in. I do like Nance a bit, especially as a defender and screen setter, which again fits well on that roster. Hart is a prospect more than someone who’s useful this year, but as mentioned above, the Pels don’t have those. But he has a reasonable chance to be a rotation piece in the next season or two.
5) I felt the Pels, as a franchise, need to make the playoffs to keep Davis happy. This keeps that possibility alive. With all the injuries they’ve had this year, they were down to 9 usable players (2-way players and 10-day contract types regularly dress). Getting two healthy contributors really mattered a lot. They were also about a million shy of the hard cap, so shedding some payroll does give them additional flexibility to make more trades before the deadline. Are they going to win a title? Obviously not. Those hopes (slim as they were) ended last night. Standing pat would end playoff hopes too, and that seemed like the wrong thing to do for a 27-21 team that’s been in the lottery for most of the decade.
6) There weren’t many, if any, other teams to trade with. I did have conversations with other teams, even before the injury, and Boogie’s free agency was mentioned every time, with multiple people suggesting he’d wind up in LA. Accordingly, the Lakers could offer the most. It was a rough hand to be dealt, and it wasn’t where I thought I’d be 24 hours earlier. I do think the Pels need to do a trade like this or commit themselves to going far into the luxury tax with an injured Cousins. They can’t just dip their toe in next year, or make trades to avoid it. It’s all or nothing.
7) This trade doesn’t force the AD decision right now. If an offer that can’t be refused comes along, the Pelicans can pull the trigger. But they can still keep trying to be competitive around AD in the meanwhile.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
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Breaking news out of Los Angeles:
LA traded Julius Randle to the New York Knicks, in exchange for Willy Hernangomez, Doug McDermott, and the 2018 Chicago 2nd round draft pick.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybygzls8
Team statements will be released shortly.
Wait are team statements required for this? :o
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Breaking news out of Los Angeles:
LA traded Julius Randle to the New York Knicks, in exchange for Willy Hernangomez, Doug McDermott, and the 2018 Chicago 2nd round draft pick.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybygzls8
Team statements will be released shortly.
Wait are team statements required for this? :o
No, but it’s fun if you do.
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Breaking: Following the Julius Randle trade, the LA Lakers have cut Nigel Hayes in order to make space for Doug McDermott.
The Lakers would like to thank Julius for all he provided to LA in his time here, persevering through a broken leg and being asked to do many different things during his tenure here while acting professionally the whole way. We wish him the best in New York.
We felt as though in order to maximize our Free Agency activities this summer we had to make some sacrifices. Now we have a cost controlled big in Hernangomez, who will shoulder a considerable amount of the load while DeMarcus recovers, and a back up wing in McBuckets. In addition, the 2nd rounder shall likely fall in the 31-36 range, which is a valuable asset in what is shaping up to be a deep draft.
We like this deal for both our organization, and the Knicks.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
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Statement From The New York Knicks:
Today, the New York Knicks have acquired Julius Randle from the Los Angeles Lakers in exchange for Doug McDermott, Willy Hernangomez, and a 2018 2nd Round Pick via the Chicago Bulls.
The New York Knicks organization would like to thank Doug McDermott and Willy Hernangomez for their time here in New York, and for all that they have done for this organization. Both players acted like true professionals in their time here, and gave us meaningful contributions throughout the season when called upon.
McDermott came from OKC through the Carmelo Anthony trade, and gave us good quality minutes while also acting like a veteran presence and a mentor to some of the young players on our team. When we signed Hernangomez two summers ago from Real Madrid, we had some doubts as to what he would become for us, but he honestly exceeded expectations in his first season with the opportunities given, and has helped us quite a bit in the last 20 months playing the front court alongside O'Quinn, Porzingis and Kanter (to name a few). We absolutely wish them the best in LA.
We'd also like to thank Lakers GM Gouki88 for being so respectful and responsive throughout the process.
It wasn't an easy decision for the organization to make, but we felt the need to make this move in an attempt to get even better in the future and also more dynamic. The current logjam in the front court, as well as contract situations also played a part in the decision to make this move. We are excited about the possibility of pairing Randle and Porzingis in the front court, and we are also planning to make every effort to keep Randle around long term here in a Knicks uniform.
We watched Randle play against us just a week ago, and he led the charge, putting up 27 points, 12 rebounds and 5 assists, all on 65% shooting, leading a young Lakers team to an impressive victory. We believe the 23 year old has a lot of room to grow, and alongside Porzingis can become a legitimate star in the league very soon. He can also help Porzingis in some aspects and we hope he aids our front court as a whole.
The Bulls early 2nd round pick this June could be a good pick, but we feel Randle is worth the gamble, and also hope to consolidate more assets as this trade deadline progresses. This is just one of a few other moves we hope to make in the near future, but for now, we are excited to have acquired Julius Randle, and Knicks fans should be ecstatic as well.
We believe it was a great deal for both sides involved, and hope to have Randle start playing for us as soon as possible!
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
Basically he's and inneffecient Chucker who plays no defense and gets a lot of his stats because he plays on a bad team that needs offense. His advanced numbers are terrible. How terrible? 538's CACRMELO projection system has his 5 years value as NEGATIVE 3.3 million. He has 2 years 26 million left after this season.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
Yes it is a crappy, difficult situation for NOP. I don't see how any of the players acquired make a difference. I see adding Clarkson as a negative. However even if you see it as a slight positive for NOP, it is a major positive for Lakers. They acquired a star player while dumping a player that they wanted to get rid of and it only cost them a solid bench player and a late 1st rookie. The Lakers gained a lot of optionality.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
In a sense that’s true (although he’s actually playing very well this year). At worst he should probably be getting paid the mid-level, instead of $2-3 million more than that. But for the Pelicans, they’re around $1 million below the hard cap prior to this trade — they’re not getting anyone of Jordan Clarkson’s ability for the minimum. And they couldn’t afford the full mid-level next summer, so they weren’t getting anyone of that ability then either. So yes, maybe Clarkson is a little overpaid (although I question that), but for the Pelicans, he makes their team better for the cost of someone who is out the rest of this year and had a very uncertain future beyond.
We’re not building teams from scratch, but rather operating within the very real constraints that already exist, and between the hard cap and the amount of injuries (4 year-ending injuries taking up $36.7 million in salary), the Pelicans are very, very constrained. With this trade, they’re a better team this year, very likely team next year, and have more flexibility. They have lost some of their ceiling, but that ceiling required Boogie to resign and to have a better comeback than most players who’ve suffered this injury.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
Basically he's and inneffecient Chucker who plays no defense and gets a lot of his stats because he plays on a bad team that needs offense. His advanced numbers are terrible. How terrible? 538's CACRMELO projection system has his 5 years value as NEGATIVE 3.3 million. He has 2 years 26 million left after this season.
His EFG% is .504 this season and .492 for his career - that doesn't seem too bad. But to each their own.
I wouldn't put too much value in the CARMELO thing though. It says Smart will be a future All-Star, Kyrie is a borderline All-Star, Horford is merely a 'good starter', and DeMar Derozan is an 'average starter'.
It also says that Lonzo's projected 5 year value is only $2m less than Kyrie. Hard to value such a thing
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
Basically he's and inneffecient Chucker who plays no defense and gets a lot of his stats because he plays on a bad team that needs offense. His advanced numbers are terrible. How terrible? 538's CACRMELO projection system has his 5 years value as NEGATIVE 3.3 million. He has 2 years 26 million left after this season.
I’m quite sure his CARMELO projection will be positive next year. 17.6 PER, 2.1 Win Shares, and 0.4. VORP through half the season all point to a positive player. His TS% has risen to a career high, while his assist percentage has nearly doubled as his turnovers have decreased (in other words, he’s not chucking this year). He’s 25, so he’s more likely than not to have a couple more seasons like this one in him. He’s not a franchise player, but his contract is perfectly reasonable for a bench sparkplug.
Contracts also have a funny value curve. Take Courtney Lee — a season and a half into his deal, the Celtics has to pay a pick to get rid of him. 2 years later, Memphis got two more second round picks because another team wanted him. When Boston traded him, Lee, who was known as a 3&D player, was shooting a career best 44% from 3, so it’s not like he was stinking the place up. I would not be remotely surprised if New Orleans in our fake situation, or some other team in the real world, were able to get positive value for Clarkson as an expiring deal in two seasons.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
In a sense that’s true (although he’s actually playing very well this year). At worst he should probably be getting paid the mid-level, instead of $2-3 million more than that. But for the Pelicans, they’re around $1 million below the hard cap prior to this trade — they’re not getting anyone of Jordan Clarkson’s ability for the minimum. And they couldn’t afford the full mid-level next summer, so they weren’t getting anyone of that ability then either. So yes, maybe Clarkson is a little overpaid (although I question that), but for the Pelicans, he makes their team better for the cost of someone who is out the rest of this year and had a very uncertain future beyond.
We’re not building teams from scratch, but rather operating within the very real constraints that already exist, and between the hard cap and the amount of injuries (4 year-ending injuries taking up $36.7 million in salary), the Pelicans are very, very constrained. With this trade, they’re a better team this year, very likely team next year, and have more flexibility. They have lost some of their ceiling, but that ceiling required Boogie to resign and to have a better comeback than most players who’ve suffered this injury.
Don't see how adding nearly 15M in salary next season gives them more flexibility. I think the better play is to keep Boogie to see how his recovery looks in 5 months. Considering his baggage, this major injury and overall lack of cap space, I think it is unlikely Cousins will get a 4 year max contract without significant injury protection. They should be able to move Ajinca and possibly Asik this offseason without giving up too much.
Edit: They also will have the option to stretch Asik over 5 years at approximately 3M per year.
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Anyway, enough about Clarkson. I think you guys really are underselling Nance. It’s not an accident he has the best Offensive AND Defensive ratings on the Lakers (and PER, VORP, Win Shares, BPM, and RPM.) Ainge offered Bradley for him this summer and was rejected. The trade wasn’t about Clarkson. He was salary filler who I think is useful, and Hart was partly the makeup for Clarkson’s value relative to salary. Nance was the player who made this deal happen. A role player yes, but he’s quickly becoming an elite one.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
In a sense that’s true (although he’s actually playing very well this year). At worst he should probably be getting paid the mid-level, instead of $2-3 million more than that. But for the Pelicans, they’re around $1 million below the hard cap prior to this trade — they’re not getting anyone of Jordan Clarkson’s ability for the minimum. And they couldn’t afford the full mid-level next summer, so they weren’t getting anyone of that ability then either. So yes, maybe Clarkson is a little overpaid (although I question that), but for the Pelicans, he makes their team better for the cost of someone who is out the rest of this year and had a very uncertain future beyond.
We’re not building teams from scratch, but rather operating within the very real constraints that already exist, and between the hard cap and the amount of injuries (4 year-ending injuries taking up $36.7 million in salary), the Pelicans are very, very constrained. With this trade, they’re a better team this year, very likely team next year, and have more flexibility. They have lost some of their ceiling, but that ceiling required Boogie to resign and to have a better comeback than most players who’ve suffered this injury.
Don't see how adding nearly 15M in salary next season gives them more flexibility. I think the better play is to keep Boogie to see how his recovery looks in 5 months. Considering his baggage, this major injury and overall lack of cap space, I think it is unlikely Cousins will get a 4 year max contract without significant injury protection. They should be able to move Ajinca and possibly Asik this offseason without giving up too much.
Edit: They also will have the option to stretch Asik over 5 years at approximately 3M per year.
One of the nice things is that we can see how this plays out in 5 months. Cap space is limited, but All-Stars on the market are also limited. I think Boogie gets the max from New Orleans for 4-5 years. And I’ll say right now that this would be a mistake for them.
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
In a sense that’s true (although he’s actually playing very well this year). At worst he should probably be getting paid the mid-level, instead of $2-3 million more than that. But for the Pelicans, they’re around $1 million below the hard cap prior to this trade — they’re not getting anyone of Jordan Clarkson’s ability for the minimum. And they couldn’t afford the full mid-level next summer, so they weren’t getting anyone of that ability then either. So yes, maybe Clarkson is a little overpaid (although I question that), but for the Pelicans, he makes their team better for the cost of someone who is out the rest of this year and had a very uncertain future beyond.
We’re not building teams from scratch, but rather operating within the very real constraints that already exist, and between the hard cap and the amount of injuries (4 year-ending injuries taking up $36.7 million in salary), the Pelicans are very, very constrained. With this trade, they’re a better team this year, very likely team next year, and have more flexibility. They have lost some of their ceiling, but that ceiling required Boogie to resign and to have a better comeback than most players who’ve suffered this injury.
Don't see how adding nearly 15M in salary next season gives them more flexibility. I think the better play is to keep Boogie to see how his recovery looks in 5 months. Considering his baggage, this major injury and overall lack of cap space, I think it is unlikely Cousins will get a 4 year max contract without significant injury protection. They should be able to move Ajinca and possibly Asik this offseason without giving up too much.
Edit: They also will have the option to stretch Asik over 5 years at approximately 3M per year.
One of the nice things is that we can see how this plays out in 5 months. Cap space is limited, but All-Stars on the market are also limited. I think Boogie gets the max from New Orleans for 4-5 years. And I’ll say right now that this would be a mistake for them.
I'll say he gets a 4 year max deal with NOP with the 4th year being a team option. Whether its a mistake depends on how well he comes back from the injury.
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Shams: Blazers have received multiple inquiries on their starting guards. McCollum getting a majority of them. Blazers rather be buyers than seller's this deadline with the Crabb trade exception ($12.9 million) still available and their own 1st.
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Anyway, enough about Clarkson. I think you guys really are underselling Nance. It’s not an accident he has the best Offensive AND Defensive ratings on the Lakers (and PER, VORP, Win Shares, BPM, and RPM.) Ainge offered Bradley for him this summer and was rejected. The trade wasn’t about Clarkson. He was salary filler who I think is useful, and Hart was partly the makeup for Clarkson’s value relative to salary. Nance was the player who made this deal happen. A role player yes, but he’s quickly becoming an elite one.
Nance is great, but doesn't this make Davis unhappy? He has gone on record as not wanting to play center. Nance can play next to Davis, but can he take other team's centers without mismatches?
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WOJ : Sources tell ESPN that the Atlanta Hawks are willing to take on long term salary for young prospects or draft picks. Have some unique expiring deals that could be useful to contenders as well in Belinelli, Dedmom, and Ilyasova.
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Ian Begley: "After making the trade for Julius Randle last night, the Knicks are now focusing their attention on consolidating future assets, and have already received a ton of interest on O'Quinn, especially from contenders who feel they could use depth in the front court for relatively cheap salary. The asking price is expected to be headlined with a late first round pick OR a young, cheap and cost-controlled player. Preferably a wing player."
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STEIN: The Kings are in discussions with several teams regarding George Hill. Hill has 2 years 37M left on his contract but only 1M of the last year is guaranteed. Hill currently stands 2nd in 3pt shooting percentage this season.
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Sources: Philly "very close" on a completing a blockbuster trade
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalN8A) January 28, 2018
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Agree with all of what salt says. He was dealt a crappy situation simply without much available to improve it and I think he made a slight improvement.
NOP just got 3 bench players and 6.5M in salary relief and trade exception. AD would not be pleased with this trade.
NOP just turned 1 injured player into 3 healthy players though. If AD's not pleased, its with the injury, not the trade. This trade wouldn't have been made if Cousins was healthy.
As an outside observer I'm fairly confident that AD would be p---ed with this trade. You can say all you want about how you are getting healthy players back but you aren't really moving the needle much at all at this season and you are completely removing any chance of having Demarcus back next season. Jordan Clarkson is arguably a negative asset.
Quite curious to see how Clarkson is "arguably a negative asset" when he's one of the best bench scorers in the league and is on a pretty decent contract, considering some of the recent ones guys of his ilk have been getting. I don't know what's wrong with him
New Orleans' biggest problem is its depth really, and now they have addressed that in good fashion. I think that the NOP team could make playoffs assuming Davis stays healthy.
He's negative because to move him the Lakers would need to include soething in a trade for someone to take on his contract.
Basically he's and inneffecient Chucker who plays no defense and gets a lot of his stats because he plays on a bad team that needs offense. His advanced numbers are terrible. How terrible? 538's CACRMELO projection system has his 5 years value as NEGATIVE 3.3 million. He has 2 years 26 million left after this season.
I’m quite sure his CARMELO projection will be positive next year. 17.6 PER, 2.1 Win Shares, and 0.4. VORP through half the season all point to a positive player. His TS% has risen to a career high, while his assist percentage has nearly doubled as his turnovers have decreased (in other words, he’s not chucking this year). He’s 25, so he’s more likely than not to have a couple more seasons like this one in him. He’s not a franchise player, but his contract is perfectly reasonable for a bench sparkplug.
Contracts also have a funny value curve. Take Courtney Lee — a season and a half into his deal, the Celtics has to pay a pick to get rid of him. 2 years later, Memphis got two more second round picks because another team wanted him. When Boston traded him, Lee, who was known as a 3&D player, was shooting a career best 44% from 3, so it’s not like he was stinking the place up. I would not be remotely surprised if New Orleans in our fake situation, or some other team in the real world, were able to get positive value for Clarkson as an expiring deal in two seasons.
You may be right, his overall value may be positive next season but it still wont match his contract. That makes him a net negative asset by definition. On like 5-6 million a year he's fine, at 12 not so much. As for his improved numbers, they really aren't all that improved. His TS has risen from 52.6 to 53.4 which isn't really isn't statistically significant and even it was is still just league average. His efficiency is buoyed by improved free throw rate which goes up with usage (27%), but that wont be near where he's at on an actual competitive team since again hes not good enough to justify it. He still isn't a 3pnt shooter. His defense is still terrible, a -2.3 DBPM. A net neutral efficiency player who is bad defensively is not a strong asset.
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Sources: Philly getting lots of calls about 2018 LAL pick, which could land #1 now that Lakers stand to lose more games after recent trades. Not hearing any other high lottery teams willing to trade away pick in loaded draft.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalN8A) January 28, 2018
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Just out of curiosity, could we maybe make a separate thread where we ONLY post the trade that went through, and then use THIS thread for the rumors and reactions to it as well?
Idk I just feel like it's hard to keep track of what deals happened, especially if one doesn't come on here for a while.
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Just out of curiosity, could we maybe make a separate thread where we ONLY post the trade that went through, and then use THIS thread for the rumors and reactions to it as well?
Idk I just feel like it's hard to keep track of what deals happened, especially if one doesn't come on here for a while.
We could maybe post them in bold or green font and also update them on to the OP?
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Just out of curiosity, could we maybe make a separate thread where we ONLY post the trade that went through, and then use THIS thread for the rumors and reactions to it as well?
Idk I just feel like it's hard to keep track of what deals happened, especially if one doesn't come on here for a while.
We could maybe post them in bold or green font and also update them on to the OP?
Yeah, that's fine.
I only made that suggestion because honestly, when I came on here yesterday, I almost completely missed the Pelicans - Lakers trade that went down. Under the announcement was a lot more rumors and other posts so I missed it initially. :P
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Let's avoid the debates of the trades on thread. There will be plenty of opportunity to discuss the success and failures of the teams in the final poll thread. Lets keep this thread to just trade announcements and rumors.
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Let's avoid the debates of the trades on thread. There will be plenty of opportunity to discuss the success and failures of the teams in the final poll thread. Lets keep this thread to just trade announcements and rumors.
Alright, that's fine. ;D
Boy though, reading back, that Pelicans - Lakers trade definitely caused a lot of arguments and some chaos on here. :laugh:
I didn't think any team lost the trade, but believe there is no clear-cut winner at the moment (gamble from both sides, a lot depends on Clarkson's fit and impact on Pelicans, and Cousins and how he comes back from injury - oh and will LAL re-sign him and to how much).
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Let's avoid the debates of the trades on thread. There will be plenty of opportunity to discuss the success and failures of the teams in the final poll thread. Lets keep this thread to just trade announcements and rumors.
Alright, that's fine. ;D
Boy though, reading back, that Pelicans - Lakers trade definitely caused a lot of arguments and some chaos on here. :laugh:
I didn't think any team lost the trade, but believe there is no clear-cut winner at the moment (gamble from both sides, a lot depends on Clarkson's fit and impact on Pelicans, and Cousins and how he comes back from injury - oh and will LAL re-sign him and to how much).
Not helping :)
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Let's avoid the debates of the trades on thread. There will be plenty of opportunity to discuss the success and failures of the teams in the final poll thread. Lets keep this thread to just trade announcements and rumors.
Alright, that's fine. ;D
Boy though, reading back, that Pelicans - Lakers trade definitely caused a lot of arguments and some chaos on here. :laugh:
I didn't think any team lost the trade, but believe there is no clear-cut winner at the moment (gamble from both sides, a lot depends on Clarkson's fit and impact on Pelicans, and Cousins and how he comes back from injury - oh and will LAL re-sign him and to how much).
Not helping :)
:P
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Woj: "The Knicks are receiving a lot of calls about Kyle O'Quinn and Courtney Lee, and some preliminary offers as well, primarily from teams who expect to make and be in the playoffs this spring who could use an additional piece."
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Stein reporting that WOJ sources are incorrect. In fact, the Sixers contacted the Jazz inquiring about a Fultz for Mitchell swap. Utah immediately shot the offer down.
This may indicate what many feel around the league about Fultz - that he may never regain confidence in his shooting form again.
These rumors can't help his confidence. It seems that Philly is losing confidence in his ability, which continues to deteriorate confidence and his value around the league.
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I dunno, I trust Woj over Stein 9 times out of 10.
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Breaking: the Utah Jazz and the Washington Wizards have reach an agreement on a trade. The Jazz will send Alec Burks and Rudy Gobert in exchange for Bradley Beal and Ian Mahinmi.
When reached for a comment, the Utah front office said, "We appreciate Rudy for all his efforts and welcome a multiple-time all-star Bradley Beal to our team. We look forward to a new exciting backcourt featuring two elite athletes, shooters, and scorers."
There were rumblings that, although Rudy Gobert has been a massive defensive fortress in his time on the court, the Jazz were concerned that Gobert would not be able to stay healthy moving forward.
The Jazz may be looking for a big to take some of Gobert's minutes inside, but they might also stand pat through the rest of the deadline. They are also looking to acquire a starting quality stretch forward for their expirings.
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Breaking: the Utah Jazz and the Washington Wizards have reach an agreement on a trade. The Jazz will send Alec Burks and Rudy Gobert in exchange for Bradley Beal and Ian Mahinmi.
When reached for a comment, the Utah front office said, "We appreciate Rudy for all his efforts and welcome a multiple-time all-star Bradley Beal to our team. We look forward to a new exciting backcourt featuring two elite athletes, shooters, and scorers."
There were rumblings that, although Rudy Gobert has been a massive defensive fortress in his time on the court, the Jazz were concerned that Gobert would not be able to stay healthy moving forward.
The Jazz may be looking for a big to take some of Gobert's minutes inside, but they might also stand pat through the rest of the deadline. They are also looking to acquire a starting quality stretch forward for their expirings.
Think a few others missed it too but aren't all trades supposed to have a ESPN trade machine link?
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Breaking: the Utah Jazz and the Washington Wizards have reach an agreement on a trade. The Jazz will send Alec Burks and Rudy Gobert in exchange for Bradley Beal and Ian Mahinmi.
When reached for a comment, the Utah front office said, "We appreciate Rudy for all his efforts and welcome a multiple-time all-star Bradley Beal to our team. We look forward to a new exciting backcourt featuring two elite athletes, shooters, and scorers."
There were rumblings that, although Rudy Gobert has been a massive defensive fortress in his time on the court, the Jazz were concerned that Gobert would not be able to stay healthy moving forward.
The Jazz may be looking for a big to take some of Gobert's minutes inside, but they might also stand pat through the rest of the deadline. They are also looking to acquire a starting quality stretch forward for their expirings.
Think a few others missed it too but aren't all trades supposed to have a ESPN trade machine link?
Sorry
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrzytze
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Washington will release a statement shortly.
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Woj reporting that the Celtics on a verge of a trade
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First off, Washington would like to thank Bradley and Ian for both their contributions to the Wiz. Ultimately, however, we decided it was best to part ways.
Bringing in Gobert gives us arguably the biggest defensive presence in the Association, and he can thrive next to a playmaking star in John Wall in the PnR.
Burks, when healthy, gives us a shooting wing, which is all we needed in order to offload Mahinmi's considerable contract.
Overall, I think it's a mutually beneficial deal
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The Dallas Mavericks have traded Nerlens Noel to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Abdel Nader, Guerschon Yabusele, and the Boston Celtics 2018 first round pick, league sources tell ESPN.
Statements coming soon from both organizations.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybadyvs9
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Woj: Hearing that the Bucks are in the market for a shot creator on the wing. Hearing only player the organization views as untouchable is Giannis.
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Sources also tell ESPN that the Dallas Mavericks have received multiple offers for Yogi Ferrell but have yet to make a deal. The Mavericks are also looking for another late first round pick for Wesley Matthews.
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Statement from the Boston Celtics:
First we like to thank Dallas for the deal and conversations in the last few days
Second we like to wish Yasbule and Nader the very best in their futures..its always hard to trade young prospects esp. by drafting them and watching them grow
Third we like to welcome Nerlens Noel..we felt like this was a traded to be made..with all the bigs in our league and Washington just acquire Gobert, we needed some much needed inside help..his shot blocking and rebounding abilities will help
Thank you
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Statement from the Boston Celtics:
First we like to thank Dallas for the deal and conversations in the last few days
Second we like to wish Yasbule and Nader the very best in their futures..its always hard to trade young prospects esp. by drafting them and watching them grow
Third we like to welcome Nerlens Noel..we felt like this was a traded to be made..with all the bigs in our league and Washington just acquire Gobert, we needed some much needed inside help..his shot blocking and rebounding abilities will help
Thank you
Commish, you never ruled on players with no-trade clauses.
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Statement from the Boston Celtics:
First we like to thank Dallas for the deal and conversations in the last few days
Second we like to wish Yasbule and Nader the very best in their futures..its always hard to trade young prospects esp. by drafting them and watching them grow
Third we like to welcome Nerlens Noel..we felt like this was a traded to be made..with all the bigs in our league and Washington just acquire Gobert, we needed some much needed inside help..his shot blocking and rebounding abilities will help
Thank you
Commish, you never ruled on players with no-trade clauses.
I did. I asked anyone who trades a player with a no-trade clause to have the receiving team make their case to me as if I was the player.
In this case, I'd allow it anyway because I think Noel wants to be anywhere but Dallas, and therefore would waive his no-trade clause.
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Statement from the Boston Celtics:
First we like to thank Dallas for the deal and conversations in the last few days
Second we like to wish Yasbule and Nader the very best in their futures..its always hard to trade young prospects esp. by drafting them and watching them grow
Third we like to welcome Nerlens Noel..we felt like this was a traded to be made..with all the bigs in our league and Washington just acquire Gobert, we needed some much needed inside help..his shot blocking and rebounding abilities will help
Thank you
Commish, you never ruled on players with no-trade clauses.
I did. I asked anyone who trades a player with a no-trade clause to have the receiving team make their case to me as if I was the player.
In this case, I'd allow it anyway because I think Noel wants to be anywhere but Dallas, and therefore would waive his no-trade clause.
Good call, commish.
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The Dallas Mavericks have traded Nerlens Noel to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Abdel Nader, Guerschon Yabusele, and the Boston Celtics 2018 first round pick, league sources tell ESPN.
Statements coming soon from both organizations.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybadyvs9
Don't think the Mavs have an open roster spot so who did they release to free up the spot?
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Statement from the Boston Celtics:
First we like to thank Dallas for the deal and conversations in the last few days
Second we like to wish Yasbule and Nader the very best in their futures..its always hard to trade young prospects esp. by drafting them and watching them grow
Third we like to welcome Nerlens Noel..we felt like this was a traded to be made..with all the bigs in our league and Washington just acquire Gobert, we needed some much needed inside help..his shot blocking and rebounding abilities will help
Thank you
Commish, you never ruled on players with no-trade clauses.
I did. I asked anyone who trades a player with a no-trade clause to have the receiving team make their case to me as if I was the player.
In this case, I'd allow it anyway because I think Noel wants to be anywhere but Dallas, and therefore would waive his no-trade clause.
Good call, commish.
Boston is a no brainer. If it was go back to Philly or stay in Dallas, that would require the Wisdom of Solomon to decide.
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Also from HoopsHype: The Celtics are not appear to be done trading..sources are saying Danny is still looking for a scorer off the bench
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The Dallas Mavericks have traded Nerlens Noel to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Abdel Nader, Guerschon Yabusele, and the Boston Celtics 2018 first round pick, league sources tell ESPN.
Statements coming soon from both organizations.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybadyvs9
Don't think the Mavs have an open roster spot so who did they release to free up the spot?
According to ESPN, they have 14 players. Kyle Collinsworth has recently signed a couple of 10-day contracts so technically he is not on the roster.
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The Dallas Mavericks have traded Nerlens Noel to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Abdel Nader, Guerschon Yabusele, and the Boston Celtics 2018 first round pick, league sources tell ESPN.
Statements coming soon from both organizations.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybadyvs9
Don't think the Mavs have an open roster spot so who did they release to free up the spot?
According to ESPN, they have 14 players. Kyle Collinsworth has recently signed a couple of 10-day contracts so technically he is not on the roster.
Sounds good. Nice trade for both teams.
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Jazz Beat Writer reporting that the Jazz are looking to dump Ricky Rubio for a cheaper alternative.
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(Randomly stumbled upon this, didn't even create it myself. So it must be true!)
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Whoever is running the Celtics in this exercise needs to go get Joe Ingles.
No other move could possibly top that.
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(Randomly stumbled upon this, didn't even create it myself. So it must be true!)
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Woj: "There is believed to be some traction on a potential Courtney Lee trade, but sides are still in deep discussions. Meanwhile, O'Quinn continues to garner a lot of trade interest, and Knicks are taking calls."
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Ian Begley: "After making the trade for Julius Randle last night, the Knicks are now focusing their attention on consolidating future assets, and have already received a ton of interest on O'Quinn, especially from contenders who feel they could use depth in the front court for relatively cheap salary. The asking price is expected to be headlined with a late first round pick OR a young, cheap and cost-controlled player. Preferably a wing player."
Woj: "The Knicks are receiving a lot of calls about Kyle O'Quinn and Courtney Lee, and some preliminary offers as well, primarily from teams who expect to make and be in the playoffs this spring who could use an additional piece."
Woj: "There is believed to be some traction on a potential Courtney Lee trade, but sides are still in deep discussions. Meanwhile, O'Quinn continues to garner a lot of trade interest, and Knicks are taking calls."
I sure hope NYK has an unlimited call and text plan with all these phone calls and interest on O'Quinn that apparently keeps pouring in... Who would have known he'd be in such high demand!
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Ian Begley: "After making the trade for Julius Randle last night, the Knicks are now focusing their attention on consolidating future assets, and have already received a ton of interest on O'Quinn, especially from contenders who feel they could use depth in the front court for relatively cheap salary. The asking price is expected to be headlined with a late first round pick OR a young, cheap and cost-controlled player. Preferably a wing player."
Woj: "The Knicks are receiving a lot of calls about Kyle O'Quinn and Courtney Lee, and some preliminary offers as well, primarily from teams who expect to make and be in the playoffs this spring who could use an additional piece."
Woj: "There is believed to be some traction on a potential Courtney Lee trade, but sides are still in deep discussions. Meanwhile, O'Quinn continues to garner a lot of trade interest, and Knicks are taking calls."
I sure hope NYK has an unlimited call and text plan with all these phone calls and interest on O'Quinn that apparently keeps pouring in... Who would have known he'd be in such high demand!
I'm not surprised at all. Great player and great guy he is ;D
And come on, this is New York, of course we have the unlimited plan 8)
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I hear the @hornets are very active on the trade market and are getting close on a number of moves. Some pure salary dumps, others bring in assets, and others would be on the fly reset. Team still undecided on path going forward.
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Per woj: Sources tell ESPN the Miami Heat are having discussions with multiple teams about Hassan Whiteside. The Heat are trying to get younger, and look to move their star big man for talent and picks.
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Per Mile High Deli Guy: "Nuggets are still in search of a Star player. They have been listening to offers for their promising young duo of Murray and Harris as well as their stockpile of PF's. GM stated that they have been very active this trade season and are in constant talks with other teams. He really feels with the right trade the Nuggets can make some noise in the playoffs."
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Indiana GM: There's no truth to the rumors that the Pacers are listening to offers for everyone. ;)
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WOJ: ''I've heard that a contender has informed about Tyson Chandler. The veteran is currently the starting center for the Phoenix Suns and still putting up elite rebounding numbers (12th in RPG, 8th in REB%). He could indeed be a valuable contributor in the playoffs. The Phoenix Suns apparently are not unwilling to trade Chandler, but are still looking for better offers.''
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The Clippers are hoping to begin their rebuild. Everyone on the roster is available and they are looking for young prospects and first round picks.
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Trade announcement:
The Utah Jazz have traded Derrick Favors, Jonas Jerebko, and Rodney Hood to the Timberwolves for Justin Patton and Gorgui Dieng.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8coa8dc
The Utah Jazz have been active at the trade deadline in an effort to build around Mitchell.
"We'd like to thank Derrick, Jonas, and Rodney for their time with the Utah Jazz. In order to accommodate them, we wanted to send them to a playoff team. We think they will be given the opportunity to flourish in Minnesota and compete in the playoffs.
This move was about the future for us. We think Dieng fits our system better long-term, with his defense and his developing 3 point shot. We also liked Patton leading up to the draft and think he has a bright, bright future in the NBA.
With this deal, we also get under the luxury tax.
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The Utah Jazz have been active at the trade deadline in an effort to build around Mitchell.
"We'd like to thank Derrick, Jonas, and Rodney for their time with the Utah Jazz. In order to accommodate them, we wanted to send them to a playoff team. We think they will be given the opportunity to flourish in Minnesota and compete in the playoffs.
This move was about the future for us. We think Dieng fits our system better long-term, with his defense and his developing 3 point shot. We also liked Patton leading up to the draft and think he has a bright, bright future in the NBA.
With this deal, we also get under the luxury tax.
No trade announcement? Just a PR piece?
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Trade announcement:
The Utah Jazz have traded Derrick Favors, Jonas Jerebko, and Rodney Hood to the Timberwolves for Justin Patton and Gorgui Dieng.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8coa8dc
The Utah Jazz have been active at the trade deadline in an effort to build around Mitchell.
"We'd like to thank Derrick, Jonas, and Rodney for their time with the Utah Jazz. In order to accommodate them, we wanted to send them to a playoff team. We think they will be given the opportunity to flourish in Minnesota and compete in the playoffs.
This move was about the future for us. We think Dieng fits our system better long-term, with his defense and his developing 3 point shot. We also liked Patton leading up to the draft and think he has a bright, bright future in the NBA.
With this deal, we also get under the luxury tax.
Wait has a trade been made??
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Trade announcement:
The Utah Jazz have traded Derrick Favors, Jonas Jerebko, and Rodney Hood to the Timberwolves for Justin Patton and Gorgui Dieng.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8coa8dc
The Utah Jazz have been active at the trade deadline in an effort to build around Mitchell.
"We'd like to thank Derrick, Jonas, and Rodney for their time with the Utah Jazz. In order to accommodate them, we wanted to send them to a playoff team. We think they will be given the opportunity to flourish in Minnesota and compete in the playoffs.
This move was about the future for us. We think Dieng fits our system better long-term, with his defense and his developing 3 point shot. We also liked Patton leading up to the draft and think he has a bright, bright future in the NBA.
With this deal, we also get under the luxury tax.
Wait has a trade been made??
Looks like they edited it and put it at the top of the post haha.
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Trade announcement:
The Utah Jazz have traded Derrick Favors, Jonas Jerebko, and Rodney Hood to the Timberwolves for Justin Patton and Gorgui Dieng.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8coa8dc
The Utah Jazz have been active at the trade deadline in an effort to build around Mitchell.
"We'd like to thank Derrick, Jonas, and Rodney for their time with the Utah Jazz. In order to accommodate them, we wanted to send them to a playoff team. We think they will be given the opportunity to flourish in Minnesota and compete in the playoffs.
This move was about the future for us. We think Dieng fits our system better long-term, with his defense and his developing 3 point shot. We also liked Patton leading up to the draft and think he has a bright, bright future in the NBA.
With this deal, we also get under the luxury tax.
Wait has a trade been made??
Looks like they edited it and put it at the top of the post haha.
Ah ok I see it. Thanks and TP!
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As DefenseWinsChamps posted, the Timberwolves and Jazz have agreed on a trade.
Timberwolves receive - Derrick Favors, Rodney Hood, and Jonas Jerebko
Jazz receive - Gorgui Dieng and Justin Patton
Timberwolves Team Statement -
After days of negotiating with multiple different teams, the Minnesota Timberwolves have come to their first trade. We appreciate the Jazz organization for negotiating with us, and would like to welcome out newest members to the team. We would also like to thank Gorgui Dieng for all he has done to help rebuild Minnesota into a playoff team. We think he will flourish in a larger role in Utah, as well as Justin Patton. We feel like we couldn’t have let the opportunity to improve our bench and create cap space for next year go. Derrick Favors and Rodney Hood will turn a our bench into one of the league’s best, and Jonas Jerebko provides versatility. We are also excited to free up long term cap space. Stay tuned Timberwolves Nation for more interesting trades...
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ESPN trade machine for Wolves/Jazz trade.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8bnnxuo
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If there's one thing this has taught me, it's that being a GM is a stressful job, and idk how I would do it.
This is why I'm GLAD we have Ainge, but before making fun or blaming other bad GMs, we should realize they probably have a ton of pressure and confusion as well. :P
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Great trade for Minnesota!!!
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Zach Lowe Tweet:
Orlando Magic taking calls from both buyers and sellers at the deadline as they decide what their path forward will be.
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https://twitter.com/action781/status/958097098632818691
I don't know who this action781 guy is, but I trust him!
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The raptors have made their entire roster available after failing to reach first place in the east by the all star break.
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https://twitter.com/action781/status/958097098632818691
I don't know who this action781 guy is, but I trust him!
He just sounds like a wannabe Woj. FAKE NEWS!!!
:laugh:
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Trade Announcement
Philadelphia trades Amir Johnson, TJ McConnell, and 2018 PHI first round pick to Detroit for Avery Bradley + Boban Marjanovic
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8k8qks9
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Trade Announcement
Philadelphia trades Amir Johnson, TJ McConnell, and 2018 PHI first round pick to Detroit for Avery Bradley + Boban Marjanovic
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8k8qks9
I hope there is some protection on that pick.
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76ers Acquire Avery Bradley and Boban Marjanovic from Pistons in Trade
From www.nba.com/sixers
Monday afternoon, the 76ers agreed to trade Amir Johnson, TJ McConnell, and a 2018 first round draft pick to the Detroit Pistons in exchange for Avery Bradley and Boban Marjanovic.
In the team's press conference, GM Billy Jackson said, "Avery Bradley is an all-league defender who can fit perfectly into our team as an off-ball guard that defends the point guard position as well as anybody else in the NBA. Our team has worked to build a defensive culture and we know that Avery will further embody that culture on a nightly basis."
On their newly acquired center he said, "Boban has played very well when given minutes as a backup throughout the early years of his career, but has lacked a consistent opportunity. Boban will get to play starters minutes in games that we rest Joel, which we feel will further his development, and we are excited to seeing him grow as a player."
The Sixers say goodbye to Amir Johnson, who is heading back to the team he started his career on, and TJ McConnell who has spent the first 3 seasons of his career with Philadelphia. "The guys in the locker room love TJ, especially Joel, and he will be missed. He busted his butt every day while he was here and I think he will have a place in the NBA for a long time." Jackson said.
The team also sent out an unprotected 2018 first round draft pick in the deal which have been seen as highly valuable this offseason. The #8 76ers are presently 3 games above the #9 Pistons in the East playoff standings and acquiring Bradley expects to improve the team while also hurting the Pistons. Without a lot of expected open roster spots next offseason, the team management was willing to part with one future pick from their treasure chest which includes 4 second round picks in the 2018 draft. There also seems to be a feeling that the 76ers aren't done dealing yet.
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Just gave action 781 a TP for all his fake WOJ tweets, fake links, etc. Awesome.
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Just a reminder, Clippers and Detroit, your teams remain the same as it was on Saturday when the Mock Trade Deadline started, unless you both agree to the Griffin trade (whichever way you two think would be most enjoyable)
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Woj: There's been some rumblings that Lebron is unhappy and has told the team that he's leaning toward leaving this summer. It's unknown whether or not the Cavs would actually trade him, but the feeling is that Lebron has a certain list of teams that he would waive his NTC for.
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Woj: There's been some rumblings that Lebron is unhappy and has told the team that he's leaning toward leaving this summer. It's unknown whether or not the Cavs would actually trade him, but the feeling is that Lebron has a certain list of teams that he would waive his NTC for.
Windhorst: LeBron will not waive his no-trade clause. He intends to finish out the year in Cleveland, both to try to win one more title for The Land, and because he feels the Cavs would leak false reports that he demanded a trade, sullying his reputation. While he may have his differences with the organization over some issues, he has a true kinship with the Cleveland fan base that he does not want to injure for a second time.
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Woj: There's been some rumblings that Lebron is unhappy and has told the team that he's leaning toward leaving this summer. It's unknown whether or not the Cavs would actually trade him, but the feeling is that Lebron has a certain list of teams that he would waive his NTC for.
Windhorst: LeBron will not waive his no-trade clause. He intends to finish out the year in Cleveland, both to try to win one more title for The Land, and because he feels the Cavs would leak false reports that he demanded a trade, sullying his reputation. While he may have his differences with the organization over some issues, he has a true kinship with the Cleveland fan base that he does not want to injure for a second time.
Woj:
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Anybody know what the value of Lebron's next contract is going to look like? Asking for a friend.
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Woj: Breaking: The Cavaliers and Lakers are in advanced discussions on a major blockbuster trade. More details to come.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
*Puts on Lakers hat*
I wouldn't have phrased it like that, but to each their own. Dang it
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
AKA "David Stern vetoing the Chris Paul to Lakers trade 2.0." ;)
I smell corruption and collusion!
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
AKA "David Stern vetoing the Chris Paul to Lakers trade 2.0." ;)
I smell corruption and collusion!
We're still mad about that here in LA!!
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
AKA "David Stern vetoing the Chris Paul to Lakers trade 2.0." ;)
I smell corruption and collusion!
We're still mad about that here in LA!!
Some around the NBA are wondering if too much damage is done to the Cavs' relationship with Lebron after this situation.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
We were planning on moving the Hollywood sign to Cleveland ;)
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
AKA "David Stern vetoing the Chris Paul to Lakers trade 2.0." ;)
I smell corruption and collusion!
We're still mad about that here in LA!!
Some around the NBA are wondering if too much damage is done to the Cavs' relationship with Lebron after this situation.
Some around the NBA are wondering how David Stern got back in power...
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Wait I'm confused has a trade actually been made? And what was the rule with NTC players in this mock trade deadline again? :P
(LOL I'm lost)
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Alright jpotter. I know you disagree. This way of determining NTC was the best idea I had. Lebron says no to that.
You are right, in real life, there are logical reasons that make any Lebron trade hopeless -- that's why he won't be traded.
You've said your piece. Time to move on.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Wait I'm confused has a trade actually been made? And what was the rule with NTC players in this mock trade deadline again? :P
The rule is that certain players with NTC abilities would be easier or more difficult to trade than others. LeBron, who has publicly indicated that he does not want to be traded midseason and would reject a trade, is obviously more difficult. Mirotic, who had his face broken by a teammates and has asked to be traded, is easy.
You need to convince the Commish why the player would say yes.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Wait I'm confused has a trade actually been made? And what was the rule with NTC players in this mock trade deadline again? :P
(LOL I'm lost)
Without getting into specifics - a trade had been agreed upon by JPotter and I, but it involved LeBron and his NTC. So we ran it by the commish, who shot it down because he doesn't believe LA would want to give up assets in order to get him (among others).
NTC players seem to be up to the commish's judgement, as far as I can gather
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Wait I'm confused has a trade actually been made? And what was the rule with NTC players in this mock trade deadline again? :P
(LOL I'm lost)
A trade between two teams was agreed to, but that trade included a player with a NTC. In this case, the team receiving the player with the NTC makes an appeal to me as if I was the player, and I make the call.
In this case, Lebron refuses to wave his NTC because he could just sign at the new team anyway without that team needing to give up any assets. Also, Lebron doesn't want to be traded to a team that would have Demarcus Cousins out for this year and next, Isaiah Thomas struggling to get back to form (and possibly commanding way too much money), an old Dwyane Wade, KCP, and Kuzma. He doesn't want to waste two more years of his prime not competing for championships.
If he did want to go to the Lakers, he'd sign there in the summer and have Kuzma, Ingram, and Ball on board. Then he'd recruit Wade and anyone else he wanted to join him.
He doesn't want to leave mid-season, and he certainly doesn't want to go to the new team in a way that would be worse for the new team than if he just signed there in the summer.
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OH OK, THANKS GUYS. I get it now. ;D
I was like "why is @defensewinschamps, Jazz GM determining all this" but I forgot he's also the commissioner LOL.
That makes sense. TP to all.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Alright jpotter. I know you disagree. This way of determining NTC was the best idea I had. Lebron says no to that.
You are right, in real life, there are logical reasons that make any Lebron trade hopeless -- that's why he won't be traded.
You've said your piece. Time to move on.
That's an easy call. The only team I could possibly see Lebron agreeing to be traded to is Houston and he probably wouldn't do that. He wants to be in control. Where ever he ends up next season, his new contract will have an NTC.
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Per Woj: Lebron's people just informed me of a major deal that he would have been part of. The Cavs asked Lebron to waive his NTC to go the Lakers, largely depleting the Lakers of their assets.
Lebron's people report that Lebron feels betrayed by this, and even if he was possibly going to the Lakers this summer, he wouldn't want them to trade all their assets to get him there now.
Boy, I'd LOVE to see what the Cavaliers would get back from the Lakers, who have already traded away Clarkson, Randle, Nance, and don't own any 2018 first rounders at the moment lol.
Yo, obviously it was too much to make Lebron say no, duh. ;)
(The package was fair and benefited both teams immensely, but the "logic" being utilized pretty much makes any Lebron trade hopeless. It'd have to be a complete rip-off to justify waiving the NTC apparently, so why we even tried allowing NTC players to be traded is beyond me.)
Wait I'm confused has a trade actually been made? And what was the rule with NTC players in this mock trade deadline again? :P
(LOL I'm lost)
A trade between two teams was agreed to, but that trade included a player with a NTC. In this case, the team receiving the player with the NTC makes an appeal to me as if I was the player, and I make the call.
In this case, Lebron refuses to wave his NTC because he could just sign at the new team anyway without that team needing to give up any assets. Also, Lebron doesn't want to be traded to a team that would have Demarcus Cousins out for this year and next, Isaiah Thomas struggling to get back to form (and possibly commanding way too much money), an old Dwyane Wade, KCP, and Kuzma. He doesn't want to waste two more years of his prime not competing for championships.
If he did want to go to the Lakers, he'd sign there in the summer and have Kuzma, Ingram, and Ball on board. Then he'd recruit Wade and anyone else he wanted to join him.
He doesn't want to leave mid-season, and he certainly doesn't want to go to the new team in a way that would be worse for the new team than if he just signed there in the summer.
This right here is enough for me I think. If he wants to go to a place and knows they have the cap space to sign him without giving up all the assets needed to acquire him in a trade, then Lebron would not waive his NTC. I think commish was right here.
I could only see him waiving his NTC for a team that is not a small market city, would be an obvious contender with him after the trade is made, and would necessitate his bird rights to resign him. Teams that come to mind are: Houston, Philly, or Boston. Maybe OKC or SA. Doubtful but possibly Minnesota. LAL if their roster had contracts on it that necessitated bird rights to resign there.
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The logic of this rule is arbitrary, inconsistent, and dumb. Literally all of these trades are based on judgment calls that are unlikely to occur in real life given all of the other extraneous factors, e.g. finances, personal preferences, appeasing your players, etc. Hell, you could make good reasons based on individual judgment that virtually all of these trades wouldn’t happen in real life. The NO/LAL trade with Boogie is a prime example of this.
We should’ve just stated no trading NTC players to avoid some arbitrary judgment call by an inherently biased, vested party. Makes no sense to arbitrarily pick and choose which judgment factors we’re going to enforce when the entire game is essentially tied to personal judgment. All that does is waste people’s time...
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Alright, I appreciate the support by some, and the disagreement by others, but this thread was dedicated to announcements and rumors. Let's not derail it further.
Sorry for any frustration. Let's try to move forward and enjoy the rest of the mock trade deadline.
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[Shams] I'm hearing word of a mega blockbuster that is being held up by one of the teams being unresponsive. It sounds like one of the other teams involved is considering getting all but that one team to sign off, then posting the trade to the League anyways and hoping that the unresponsive team either doesn't notice or is cool with it. ;D
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[Shams] I'm hearing word of a mega blockbuster that is being held up by one of the teams being unresponsive. It sounds like one of the other teams involved is considering getting all but that one team to sign off, then posting the trade to the League anyways and hoping that the unresponsive team either doesn't notice or is cool with it. ;D
You've got plenty of time to get it worked out. Of course, mega blockbuster probably means very unrealistic.
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[Shams] I'm hearing word of a mega blockbuster that is being held up by one of the teams being unresponsive. It sounds like one of the other teams involved is considering getting all but that one team to sign off, then posting the trade to the League anyways and hoping that the unresponsive team either doesn't notice or is cool with it. ;D
Cheeky ;)
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I'm hearing the @hornets have tentatively reached two separate deals. Particulars still need to be finalized, but announcements should come today. Collectively the trades should be a new direction for the team. They are still going to be aggressive in their roster makeover both with newly acquired players and current players.
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The logic of this rule is arbitrary, inconsistent, and dumb. Literally all of these trades are based on judgment calls that are unlikely to occur in real life given all of the other extraneous factors, e.g. finances, personal preferences, appeasing your players, etc. Hell, you could make good reasons based on individual judgment that virtually all of these trades wouldn’t happen in real life. The NO/LAL trade with Boogie is a prime example of this.
We should’ve just stated no trading NTC players to avoid some arbitrary judgment call by an inherently biased, vested party. Makes no sense to arbitrarily pick and choose which judgment factors we’re going to enforce when the entire game is essentially tied to personal judgment. All that does is waste people’s time...
saltover about 10 pages ago, made a pretty good list on which players would likely be traded and which ones wouldn't. Lebron James will never waive his NTC. He has made that abundantly clear time and time again and frankly why would he waive it. It was a wasted effort to try to trade him.
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The logic of this rule is arbitrary, inconsistent, and dumb. Literally all of these trades are based on judgment calls that are unlikely to occur in real life given all of the other extraneous factors, e.g. finances, personal preferences, appeasing your players, etc. Hell, you could make good reasons based on individual judgment that virtually all of these trades wouldn’t happen in real life. The NO/LAL trade with Boogie is a prime example of this.
We should’ve just stated no trading NTC players to avoid some arbitrary judgment call by an inherently biased, vested party. Makes no sense to arbitrarily pick and choose which judgment factors we’re going to enforce when the entire game is essentially tied to personal judgment. All that does is waste people’s time...
saltover about 10 pages ago, made a pretty good list on which players would likely be traded and which ones wouldn't. Lebron James will never waive his NTC. He has made that abundantly clear time and time again and frankly why would he waive it. It was a wasted effort to try to trade him.
Might it be best to create a Mock Trade Deadline Announcement & Rumors thread? or possibly create a Post Mock Deadline thread? I feel like we're managing two streams of information here and it may be overwhelming for some folks .... like possibly myself :laugh:
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No more comments on this thread. I started a thread for discussion.
This thread is only for Trade Rumors or Announcements. Any comments or discussion can be made on the thread below.
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=95224.new#new
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Breaking :
The Washington Wizards have traded Marcin Gortat and a 2019 first round draft pick to Atlanta for Marco Belinelli and Dewayne Dedmon.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6veztmv
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The Rockets have had conversations with several teams. They're looking to add a star. Love, Leonard and George have all been discussed. Though it seems distant now, that doesn't mean talks can't accelerate. The piece Houston is most likely to move: Eric Gordon.
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Charlotte has reached an agreement with Utah on the following trade:
Charlotte is trading Marvin Williams and Cody Zeller to Utah for Ricky Rubio, Thabo Sefolosha, and Tony Bradley.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb2cuch3
Charlotte makes the move to get under the tax this year, eliminate some long term salary and pick up some much needed defense on its bench with the acquisitions of Rubio and Sefolosha. Charlotte is also happy to add a recent 1st round draft pick center project for development. Charlotte has an open roster spot so it doesn't need to waive anyone in the 3 for 2 trade.
The Hornets want to thank Marvin and Cody for their years of service. They have been nothing but professional and we wish them well with the Jazz.
Charlotte is still looking to make moves to continue to reshape its roster.
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Woj: Utah still poking around NBA looking for a team that wants Joe Johnson as a veteran on an expiring contract.
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TRADES SO FAR:
The Pelicans and Lakers have agreed on a trade. The Lakers will receive DeMarcus Cousins, Tony Allen, and Cheick Diallo from New Orleans in return for Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr., and Josh Hart.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y7jvqrsd
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LA traded Julius Randle to the New York Knicks, in exchange for Willy Hernangomez, Doug McDermott, and the 2018 Chicago 2nd round draft pick.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybygzls8
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Utah Jazz and the Washington Wizards have reach an agreement on a trade. The Jazz will send Alec Burks and Rudy Gobert in exchange for Bradley Beal and Ian Mahinmi.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrzytze
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The Dallas Mavericks have traded Nerlens Noel to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Abdel Nader, Guerschon Yabusele, and the Boston Celtics 2018 first round pick, league sources tell ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybadyvs9
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The Utah Jazz have traded Derrick Favors, Jonas Jerebko, and Rodney Hood to the Timberwolves for Justin Patton and Gorgui Dieng.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8coa8dc
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Philadelphia trades Amir Johnson, TJ McConnell, and 2018 PHI first round pick to Detroit for Avery Bradley + Boban Marjanovic
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8k8qks9
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The Washington Wizards have traded Marcin Gortat and a 2019 first round draft pick to Atlanta for Marco Belinelli and Dewayne Dedmon.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6veztmv
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Charlotte is trading Marvin Williams and Cody Zeller to Utah for Ricky Rubio, Thabo Sefolosha, and Tony Bradley.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb2cuch3
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The Nets are reportedly looking to help a team get out of the luxury tax with their $6 trade exception from Lin's injury. It needs to be an expiring.
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Charlotte and Minnesota have come to terms on a blockbuster trade
Charlotte is trading Nicholas Batum, Kemba Walker, Treveon Graham, 2018 lottery protected 1st (then lottery, top ten, top five, unprotected) for Andrew Wiggins, Jeff Teague, Shabazz Muhammad.
Charlotte is sad to see Kemba, Nicholas, and Treveon go, but is excited to bring in a new franchise player in Andrew Wiggins, who fits the Malik Monk timeline a lot better, as well as a solid veteran PG in Jeff Teague and some additional bench depth in Shabazz Muhammad. The trade also shaves another 7 million off of this season's payroll.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybbqqfhd
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I'm hearing @Hornets are still very active in the trade market and aren't sold on keeping both Teague and Rubio. They would like to move at least 1 for a younger PG prospect (or a 1st). They are also still trying to move MKG and Howard as well, and have received some interest in both.
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I'm hearing @Hornets are still very active in the trade market and aren't sold on keeping both Teague and Rubio. They would like to move at least 1 for a younger PG prospect (or a 1st). They are also still trying to move MKG and Howard as well, and have received some interest in both.
We can't trade a player we acquired from another team
5. You cannot trade a player you acquired during this mock trade deadline. If you don't want him, you better work a 3-team deal.
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I'm hearing @Hornets are still very active in the trade market and aren't sold on keeping both Teague and Rubio. They would like to move at least 1 for a younger PG prospect (or a 1st). They are also still trying to move MKG and Howard as well, and have received some interest in both.
We can't trade a player we acquired from another team
5. You cannot trade a player you acquired during this mock trade deadline. If you don't want him, you better work a 3-team deal.
Yeah I see that now. I don't get that rule at all. And actual teams do that all the time. Requiring it to be a 3 or 4 team trade allows for trades to fall through you would otherwise do when you could just work a trade out later. I don't see why I can't trade a player I acquired as long as the real rules are followed, but if those are the weird rules those are the weird rules and I'm stuck with 2 veteran PG's for some strange reason.
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Breaking :
The Atlanta Hawks have traded Dennis Schroder to the New York Knicks for Joakim Noah and two first round picks (2018 unprotected & 2020 protected top ten in 2020, top 5 in 2021, and unprotected 2022)
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y77n9r59
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - Since the @Hornets are stuck with both Teague and Rubio, they have focused all of their efforts on moving Howard and MKG. Lamb and MCW are also available.
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REPORT: The duo of Yogi Ferrell and Wesley Matthews is being made available in trades for a first round pick.
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I'm hearing @Hornets are still very active in the trade market and aren't sold on keeping both Teague and Rubio. They would like to move at least 1 for a younger PG prospect (or a 1st). They are also still trying to move MKG and Howard as well, and have received some interest in both.
We can't trade a player we acquired from another team
5. You cannot trade a player you acquired during this mock trade deadline. If you don't want him, you better work a 3-team deal.
Yeah I see that now. I don't get that rule at all. And actual teams do that all the time. Requiring it to be a 3 or 4 team trade allows for trades to fall through you would otherwise do when you could just work a trade out later. I don't see why I can't trade a player I acquired as long as the real rules are followed, but if those are the weird rules those are the weird rules and I'm stuck with 2 veteran PG's for some strange reason.
Problem is how do you confirm the real rules are followed since you can't use the trade machine?
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - I'm hearing @Hornets are still very active in the trade market and aren't sold on keeping both Teague and Rubio. They would like to move at least 1 for a younger PG prospect (or a 1st). They are also still trying to move MKG and Howard as well, and have received some interest in both.
We can't trade a player we acquired from another team
5. You cannot trade a player you acquired during this mock trade deadline. If you don't want him, you better work a 3-team deal.
Yeah I see that now. I don't get that rule at all. And actual teams do that all the time. Requiring it to be a 3 or 4 team trade allows for trades to fall through you would otherwise do when you could just work a trade out later. I don't see why I can't trade a player I acquired as long as the real rules are followed, but if those are the weird rules those are the weird rules and I'm stuck with 2 veteran PG's for some strange reason.
Problem is how do you confirm the real rules are followed since you can't use the trade machine?
No more conversation on this thread. This thread is for rumors and announcements.
Use this thread for conversations
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=95224.msg2453316#new
Thanks!!
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Report: LAL trying to move on Deng - reportedly stating that any team that takes his contract will be compensated fairly
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Washington Wizards have acquired Jameer Nelson, sending their 2018 2nd round pick to New Orleans. Statements from each team will come later this evening.
Note: I can’t get the trade machine to create a working link, but Jameer Nelson makes the minimum salary, so it works. Trust me. ;)
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New Orleans Pelicans statement on trade with Washington Wizards:
The Pelicans would like to thank Jameer Nelson for his contributions this season. He was an important component of our offense, especially early in the season while Ramon Rondo was injured. With the acquisition of Jordan Clarkson, Jameer’s role was naturally going to be reduced, and all parties are pleased that he will have the opportunity to contribute in Washington for a playoff push.
The Pelicans note that they now have an open roster spot as a result of this trade, and are still looking to add another player before the deadline.
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WOJ: Detroit is looking to move either or both Ish Smith & Reggie Jackson.
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Reports are that the Timberwolves are very happy with their early moves, however they feel like more moves can be made. They have 2 2018 1st round picks (OKC and CHA) and are attempting to find a long term fit next to KAT. They also have several solid rotational bigs who are available in said trade..
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Breaking:
Washington and Miami have agreed to a blockbuster deal, whereby Miami will send out Goran Dragic and Tyler Johnson, and will receive Otto Porter Jr.
Porter Jr. reportedly waived his NTC as he felt his career was stagnating in Washington, and was developing somewhat of an unhealthy rivalry with Kelly Oubre. Team statements to follow
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yakealue
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As a result of this, the Wizards will have 16 players, and thus have released Chris McCullough
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As a result of this, the Wizards will have 16 players, and thus have released Chris McCullough
Wait, no, 17. Sheldon Mac is released too
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Breaking:
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Ersan Ilysova, Mike Muscala, Isaiah Taylor, and two second round draft picks (Atlanta’s 2018 2nd round pick, and Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019)
Protections on the LA picks are as follows : First of the two picks is Top 8 protected in 2020, Top 4 in 2021 if not conveyed, Top 4 in 2022 if not conveyed, and unprotected year after.
Second of the first round picks to convey two years following first conveyed pick above, with same scheme except one less year of protection.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrnajfd
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Steven A Smith reporting that the Nets are still looking for a team that needs a productive wing on a good contract. They can take on extra salary, but are looking for young players to take a chance on or draft considerations.
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Breaking:
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Ersan Ilysova, Mike Muscala, Isaiah Taylor, and two second round draft picks (Atlanta’s 2018 2nd round pick, and Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019)
Protections on the LA picks are as follows : First of the two picks is Top 8 protected in 2020, Top 4 in 2021 if not conveyed, Top 4 in 2022 if not conveyed, and unprotected year after.
Second of the first round picks to convey two years following first conveyed pick above, with same scheme except one less year of protection.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrnajfd
I’m sorry, but both Ilyasova and Muscala agreed to waive their no trade clauses??? Respectfully I challenge that assumption.
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Shams: The Rockets are still engaging to acquire another star. Sources say that CP3 has been made available for the right package.
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Breaking:
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Ersan Ilysova, Mike Muscala, Isaiah Taylor, and two second round draft picks (Atlanta’s 2018 2nd round pick, and Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019)
Protections on the LA picks are as follows : First of the two picks is Top 8 protected in 2020, Top 4 in 2021 if not conveyed, Top 4 in 2022 if not conveyed, and unprotected year after.
Second of the first round picks to convey two years following first conveyed pick above, with same scheme except one less year of protection.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrnajfd
David Aldridge reporting:
The Hawks and Lakers trade is currently in limbo as they work to convince Muscala and Ilyasova to waive their no-trade clauses. Muscala seems to be particularly hurt that the Hawks didn’t consult to him first, as he’s played his first five seasons in Atlanta.
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Breaking:
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Ersan Ilysova, Mike Muscala, Isaiah Taylor, and two second round draft picks (Atlanta’s 2018 2nd round pick, and Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019)
Protections on the LA picks are as follows : First of the two picks is Top 8 protected in 2020, Top 4 in 2021 if not conveyed, Top 4 in 2022 if not conveyed, and unprotected year after.
Second of the first round picks to convey two years following first conveyed pick above, with same scheme except one less year of protection.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrnajfd
David Aldridge reporting:
The Hawks and Lakers trade is currently in limbo as they work to convince Muscala and Ilyasova to waive their no-trade clauses. Muscala seems to be particularly hurt that the Hawks didn’t consult to him first, as he’s played his first five seasons in Atlanta.
Is that pick protection valid? I know you can only trade picks 7 years out but don't know how it applies to protections. That 1st pick might not convey until 2023 so the 2nd pick might not convey until 2025 or later.
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Breaking:
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Ersan Ilysova, Mike Muscala, Isaiah Taylor, and two second round draft picks (Atlanta’s 2018 2nd round pick, and Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019)
Protections on the LA picks are as follows : First of the two picks is Top 8 protected in 2020, Top 4 in 2021 if not conveyed, Top 4 in 2022 if not conveyed, and unprotected year after.
Second of the first round picks to convey two years following first conveyed pick above, with same scheme except one less year of protection.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrnajfd
David Aldridge reporting:
The Hawks and Lakers trade is currently in limbo as they work to convince Muscala and Ilyasova to waive their no-trade clauses. Muscala seems to be particularly hurt that the Hawks didn’t consult to him first, as he’s played his first five seasons in Atlanta.
Is that pick protection valid? I know you can only trade picks 7 years out but don't know how it applies to protections. That 1st pick might not convey until 2023 so the 2nd pick might not convey until 2025 or later.
We actually weren't sure, but I could not find a good source for rules on that specific type of protection. The trade needs to be adjusted for a few reasons anyway so we'll sort that out, the error was mine. My apologies everyone!
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Breaking:
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Ersan Ilysova, Mike Muscala, Isaiah Taylor, and two second round draft picks (Atlanta’s 2018 2nd round pick, and Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019)
Protections on the LA picks are as follows : First of the two picks is Top 8 protected in 2020, Top 4 in 2021 if not conveyed, Top 4 in 2022 if not conveyed, and unprotected year after.
Second of the first round picks to convey two years following first conveyed pick above, with same scheme except one less year of protection.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycrnajfd
David Aldridge reporting:
The Hawks and Lakers trade is currently in limbo as they work to convince Muscala and Ilyasova to waive their no-trade clauses. Muscala seems to be particularly hurt that the Hawks didn’t consult to him first, as he’s played his first five seasons in Atlanta.
Is that pick protection valid? I know you can only trade picks 7 years out but don't know how it applies to protections. That 1st pick might not convey until 2023 so the 2nd pick might not convey until 2025 or later.
We actually weren't sure, but I could not find a good source for rules on that specific type of protection. The trade needs to be adjusted for a few reasons anyway so we'll sort that out, the error was mine. My apologies everyone!
From the CBA FAQ:
The "Seven Year Rule" allows teams to trade draft picks up to seven drafts into the future (for example, if this is the 2017-18 season, then a 2024 pick can be traded, but a 2025 pick cannot). It is common to "protect" picks depending on their position (for example, "we keep it if if it falls #1 through #14, otherwise you get it"), although no more than 55 picks in a single draft can be protected (for example, a top-55 protected pick is legal, but a top-56 protected pick is not). This helps to avoid a repeat of some unfortunate past trades, such as the 1980 trade between the Cavs and Lakers where LA received what turned out to be the first overall pick in the 1982 draft, which they used to select James Worthy. It is common for these protections to relax over several years. For example, a team might convey its own pick in the first draft in which it is not a protected pick, where a protected pick is defined as picks 1-14 in 2018; 1-10 in 2019; 1-6 in 2020; and unprotected in 2021. If the team's picks in 2018, 2019 or 2020 fall within the protected range, then they keep it; otherwise it is conveyed to the other team. If they make it to 2021 without having conveyed a pick, then the other team gets their 2021 pick unconditionally.
A team may protect its pick through all seven upcoming drafts. However, if a protected pick is not conveyed by the seventh draft, the obligation to convey a pick either must extinguish after the seventh draft, or convert to a permissible alternative (such as a second round pick).
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Breaking Trade Annoncement:
The Milwaukee Bucks, Phoenix Suns and San Antonio Spurs have agreed to a trade. The swap involves Jabari Parker and Mirza Teletovic to the Suns, 2018 protected Suns 1st round pick + Eric Bledsoe + Kris Middleton + Thon Maker to the Spurs, and Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green and Jared Dudley to the Bucks. Details Below:
Structure of 3 Way trade Between Bucks/ Suns/ Spurs
For simplicity sake, I have broken the trade down into “two parts” even though it is still structured as a 3 way trade in terms of salary.
1.) To Milwaukee Bucks: '18 Phoenix 1st (top 1 protected), Jared Dudley and '18 Milwaukee 2nd
To Phoenix Suns: Jabari Parker and Mirza Teletovic
• There are changes in protections involving picks with this deal. The 2018 Phoenix 1st is top 1 protected (will not convey if Suns win the lottery.) In the event of this protection occurring, Milwaukee is entitled to the 2019 Phoenix 1st round pick unprotected.
• The current Milwaukee 2018 1st round pick owned by Phoenix is protected as such: '18 Milwaukee protection: '18 (1-10 and 17-30 protected) - '19 (1-3 and 17-30 protected) - '20 (1-7 protected) - '21 (unprotected)
• Milwaukee has agreed to change that protection to : '18 (1-10 protected) - '19 (1-3 protected) - '20 (1-7 protected) - '21 (unprotected)
• Control of the 2018 Milwaukee 2nd round pick reverts to Milwaukee
2.) To Milwaukee Bucks: Kawhi Leonard + Danny Green
To San Antonio Spurs: Kris Middleton + Eric Bledsoe + Thon Maker + 2018 Phoenix 1st (top 1 protected)
Team statements to follow.
Trade Machine Link: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y87e48om
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Statement by the Milwaukee Bucks:
The Milwaukee Bucks are happy to welcome Kawhi Leonard, Danny Green and Jared Dudley to our organization. We feel that we have put in place a foundation that will lead to a new era of great Bucks basketball. While our team may not be 100% healthy at the moment, we feel that building a franchise around a 23 year old Giannis, a 26 year old Kawhi, and a 25 year old sharpshooter in Brogdon is a recipe for continued success going forward. We feel that as a duo, Giannis and Kawhi will be the new gold standard for matchup nightmares in the league.
We would like to take this opportunity to thank Kris Middleton, Jabari Parker, Thon Maker and Eric Bledsoe for the blood, sweat and tears they have poured into our franchise over the years. We know they will continue to grow for their new franchises, and detest the prospect of having to play against these talented players for years to come.
Fear the Deer.
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As a result of the recent trade, the Phoenix Suns would have 16 players under contract, and thus have released Isaiah Canaan. The Phoenix Suns thank Isaiah for his efforts for the team.
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Woj Bomb! The Miami Heat send Hassan Whiteside, Wayne Ellington and A. J Hammons to the San Antonio Spurs for Pau Gasol, Dejounte Murray, Rudy Gay, 2018 Spurs 1st and 2020 Spurs 1st.
Team Statements are soon to follow.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybjzysqg
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Miami Heat Team Statement
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The Franchise would like to thank Goran Dragic, Hassan Whiteside, Tyler Johnson, Wayne Ellington and A. J. Hammons (Dealt in seperate deals) for their time with the Miami Heat, and wish them well in their new situations.
The group of the last two seasons had a great run, nearly making the playoffs last season after turning their season around in admirable fashion, and fighting to the 4th spot this season. But the management still felt the need to get younger, while remaining competitive this season.
So we'd like to welcome Otto Porter Jr, Dejounte Murray, Rudy Gay and Pau Gasol to our team!
We feel like we acquired some very nice young building blocks, and some very solid veterans to guide our young group going forward.
Our team now features length on every position and we expect this new group to flourish defensively!
We're excited about the future of this team, and look forward to the rest of the season!
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Miami has reportedly received a $5.5-million disabled player exception (DPE) from the league stemming from Dion Waiters' season-ending ankle surgery earlier this month, sources told Yahoo Sports' Shams Charania.
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Trade Announcement:
The Memphis Grizzles and Brooklyn Nets have reached an agreement that sends Demarre Carroll and Jeremy Lin to the Grizzles for Chandler Parsons, Deyonte Davis, and Dillon Brooks.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybnwy3hx
The Brooklyn Nets appreciate Demarre's contributions to the team this year and wish him the best moving forward. They also wish Jeremy a speedy recovery followed by the ability to contribute at a high level next season.
We'd like to welcome Parsons, Davis, and Brooks the Nets! As we continue to build for the future, we are excited about our young core of Russell, Dinwiddie, Lavert, RHJ, Brooks, Davis, Okafor, and Allen. We are also thrilled to have solid veterans surrounding them like Parsons, Mozgov, and Crabbe.
Let's go Nets!
Edit: As part of this trade, the Nets will release Quincy Acy. He has been a consummate professional for us during our rebuild and we wish him the best for his career.
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The Brooklyn Nets are still buyers this trade deadline. They have approximately 5,278,672 in cap space into which they can take a contract.
Any contract that they take into that space produces a trade exception for the other party equal to the contract they trade to the Nets. This trade exception can be a helpful asset moving forward for a team.
We are looking to receive young players and draft considerations for the trade.
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Rumor: The Heat are making Kelly Olynyk available in trade talks. They appear to be interested in a backup point guard or an expirering contract.
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Trade Announcement
The Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns have agreed to a deal in which Phoenix sends Greg Monroe, Marquese Chriss, Alan Williams and the '18 Milwaukee 1st round pick to LA in exchange for DeAndre Jordan and Patrick Beverley.
In a short statement Phoenix says that they hope that DeAndre and Patrick can have a big impact to change the direction of the team. They thank Greg, Marquese and Alan for the contributions to the team and wish them success in their further careers.
After the transaction between Milwaukee, San Antonio and Phoenix the protections for the '18 Milwaukee pick had been changed, therefore it's highly likely that the pick will convey this year as the protection is as follows: 1-10 in 2018, 1-3 in 2019, 1-7 in 2020 and unprotected in 2021.
LA Clippers sends out a total of $28.155.864,- in salary (22,6 Jordan; 5,5 Beverley) and receives a total of $26.957.976,- in salary (17,9 Monroe; 6,0 Williams; 3,1 Chriss), therefore the trade is valid.
(since in another universe Monroe was released I can't show the trade in the trading machine)
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Trade Announcement
The Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns have agreed to a deal in which Phoenix sends Greg Monroe, Marquese Chriss, Alan Williams and the '18 Milwaukee 1st round pick to LA in exchange for DeAndre Jordan and Patrick Beverley.
In a short statement Phoenix says that they hope that DeAndre and Patrick can have a big impact to change the direction of the team. They thank Greg, Marquese and Alan for the contributions to the team and wish them success in their further careers.
After the transaction between Milwaukee, San Antonio and Phoenix the protections for the '18 Milwaukee pick had been changed, therefore it's highly likely that the pick will convey this year as the protection is as follows: 1-10 in 2018, 1-3 in 2019, 1-7 in 2020 and unprotected in 2021.
LA Clippers sends out a total of $28.155.864,- in salary (22,6 Jordan; 5,5 Beverley) and receives a total of $26.957.976,- in salary (17,9 Monroe; 6,0 Williams; 3,1 Chriss), therefore the trade is valid.
(since in another universe Monroe was released I can't show the trade in the trading machine)
Now I know we aren't able to trade players received during this exercise, but how does that work for traded protections on picks commissioner?
PS- Not trying to rain on parades, just curious if our acquired picks are tradable. That would change things a bit.
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Trade Announcement
The Los Angeles Clippers and Phoenix Suns have agreed to a deal in which Phoenix sends Greg Monroe, Marquese Chriss, Alan Williams and the '18 Milwaukee 1st round pick to LA in exchange for DeAndre Jordan and Patrick Beverley.
In a short statement Phoenix says that they hope that DeAndre and Patrick can have a big impact to change the direction of the team. They thank Greg, Marquese and Alan for the contributions to the team and wish them success in their further careers.
After the transaction between Milwaukee, San Antonio and Phoenix the protections for the '18 Milwaukee pick had been changed, therefore it's highly likely that the pick will convey this year as the protection is as follows: 1-10 in 2018, 1-3 in 2019, 1-7 in 2020 and unprotected in 2021.
LA Clippers sends out a total of $28.155.864,- in salary (22,6 Jordan; 5,5 Beverley) and receives a total of $26.957.976,- in salary (17,9 Monroe; 6,0 Williams; 3,1 Chriss), therefore the trade is valid.
(since in another universe Monroe was released I can't show the trade in the trading machine)
Now I know we aren't able to trade players received during this exercise, but how does that work for traded protections on picks commissioner?
PS- Not trying to rain on parades, just curious if our acquired picks are tradable. That would change things a bit.
Picks are less complicated due to physicals and rules about trading players away. Picks can be traded away.
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Charlotte continues its roster reshaping by trading Michael Kidd-Gilchrist to Denver for Kenneth Faried.
Charlotte's recent moves left a glut of wings and a dearth of big men, so it is happy to add the athletic rebounding machine to its roster. The Hornets are sad to see MKG go, but wish him well on the up and coming Nuggets team.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yca86h2x
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@rick_bonnell - 0m ago - After the recent trade with the @Nuggets, the @Hornets are now focused on finding a suitor for Dwight Howard. Jeremy Lamb and Michael Carter-Williams have also been discussed in trade talks, but the @Hornets are really focused on moving Dwight and are willing to take on longer contracts than Dwight's 2 years to get it done.
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Statement from Denver Nuggets:
First and foremost we would like to thank Faried for the nearly 7 years he spent with us. When we made the pick back in 2011 we knew that the talent and hard work was there. We are proud of the near Double-Double machine Faried has grown into. With Milsap due back after the All-Star break, minutes would have been hard to come by with the growth of Trey Lyles thus we wanted to make sure Faried could continue to grow.
We are excited to bring in Michael Kidd-Gilchrist as he fits very well with the team's youth.
The Nuggets are still very open to trades and would like to find another star player BUT are very happy about the growth of the young guns and are looking forward to the continued growth of this Playoff team.
Finally, Mile High Deli Guy would like to wish Faired the best of luck in Charlotte! And thank him for bringing his lunch pale every day and putting in the work. "Whenever you are in Denver, visit anytime and as always your sandwiches are on me, Manimal!!!!"
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Breaking:
A three team trade has been completed between the Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, and Atlanta Hawks.
The Los Angeles Lakers will be sending Luol Deng, Thomas Bryant, and two first round draft picks with protections (protections below) to the Atlanta Hawks for Deandre Bembry, Malcolm Delaney, Luke Babbit, Isaiah Taylor, and ATLs 2018 second round draft pick, and 750k in cash considerations from New Orleans.
Atlanta will be sending Ersan Ilyasova to New Orleans with a second round draft pick (Atlanta’s owned 2nd round pick that is the less favorable of LA and MIN in 2019). New Orleans will be utilizing their recently acquired trade exception to fit Ersan into their roster
Protections on the LA picks to Atlanta are as follows : First pick protected 1-8 in 2020, 1-5 in 2021, unprotected in 2022. The second pick will be 1-8 in 2022, 1-5 in 2023, unprotected in 2024. Conveyance of the second pick to begin two years after the first pick.
(http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8h6ff7j) (But with Ersan fitting into New Orleans' TPE)
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Woj:
The Pelicans have indicated a willingness to trade this year’s 1st round pick for a frontline center, after initially resisting such a move. They feel they have improved the overall quality and depth of this team, and are looking to make a run in the playoffs.
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Per Woj: The Miami Heat appear to have taken Kelly Olynyk off the market. They are optimistic that he can be a good fit next to Bam Adebayo. However they still are still open to deal James Johnson.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Hey guys — OKC doesnt have its 1st next year. It’s owed to Minnesota (protected through 2020). Two years after that, they owe a 1st to Orlando (protected through 2022). The earliest they can trade a protected pick is 2022, and the earliest it can be unprotected is 2024.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Hey guys — OKC doesnt have its 1st next year. It’s owed to Minnesota (protected through 2020). Two years after that, they owe a 1st to Orlando (protected through 2022). The earliest they can trade a protected pick is 2022, and the earliest it can be unprotected is 2024.
Isn't the OKC 1st next year their own IF they send their first rounder to MIN this summer (assuming it lands 15-30)?
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Hey guys — OKC doesnt have its 1st next year. It’s owed to Minnesota (protected through 2020). Two years after that, they owe a 1st to Orlando (protected through 2022). The earliest they can trade a protected pick is 2022, and the earliest it can be unprotected is 2024.
Isn't the OKC 1st next year their own IF they send their first rounder to MIN this summer (assuming it lands 15-30)?
That’s not what I’m seeing from Real GM:
2018 first round draft pick to Minnesota
Oklahoma City's 1st round pick to Minnesota (via Utah) protected for selections 1-14 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if Oklahoma City has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Minnesota by 2020, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Minnesota [Detroit-Oklahoma City-Utah, 2/19/2015; Minnesota-Utah, 6/30/2017]
What are you seeing where?
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Hey guys — OKC doesnt have its 1st next year. It’s owed to Minnesota (protected through 2020). Two years after that, they owe a 1st to Orlando (protected through 2022). The earliest they can trade a protected pick is 2022, and the earliest it can be unprotected is 2024.
Isn't the OKC 1st next year their own IF they send their first rounder to MIN this summer (assuming it lands 15-30)?
That’s not what I’m seeing from Real GM:
2018 first round draft pick to Minnesota
Oklahoma City's 1st round pick to Minnesota (via Utah) protected for selections 1-14 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if Oklahoma City has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Minnesota by 2020, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Minnesota [Detroit-Oklahoma City-Utah, 2/19/2015; Minnesota-Utah, 6/30/2017]
What are you seeing where?
I'm using RealGM as well and got:
2018 - 1-14 Own; 15-30 to MIN (via UTH)
2019 - 1-14 Own; 15-30 to MIN (via UTH) if not already settled
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Hey guys — OKC doesnt have its 1st next year. It’s owed to Minnesota (protected through 2020). Two years after that, they owe a 1st to Orlando (protected through 2022). The earliest they can trade a protected pick is 2022, and the earliest it can be unprotected is 2024.
Isn't the OKC 1st next year their own IF they send their first rounder to MIN this summer (assuming it lands 15-30)?
That’s not what I’m seeing from Real GM:
2018 first round draft pick to Minnesota
Oklahoma City's 1st round pick to Minnesota (via Utah) protected for selections 1-14 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if Oklahoma City has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Minnesota by 2020, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Minnesota [Detroit-Oklahoma City-Utah, 2/19/2015; Minnesota-Utah, 6/30/2017]
What are you seeing where?
I'm using RealGM as well and got:
2018 - 1-14 Own; 15-30 to MIN (via UTH)
2019 - 1-14 Own; 15-30 to MIN (via UTH) if not already settled
Okay, I don’t think you’re interpreting that correctly. And if you are, your deal still doesn’t work. But can you give a link?
If they give their pick this year, they do have their 2019 pick. But you can’t trade picks in consecutive future drafts, so if the pick to Minny is conveyed, the earliest one could go to NY is 2020. But again, they also owe a pick to Orlando beginning in 2020, so the earliest they could actually send a pick to NY is 2022.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Hey guys — OKC doesnt have its 1st next year. It’s owed to Minnesota (protected through 2020). Two years after that, they owe a 1st to Orlando (protected through 2022). The earliest they can trade a protected pick is 2022, and the earliest it can be unprotected is 2024.
Isn't the OKC 1st next year their own IF they send their first rounder to MIN this summer (assuming it lands 15-30)?
That’s not what I’m seeing from Real GM:
2018 first round draft pick to Minnesota
Oklahoma City's 1st round pick to Minnesota (via Utah) protected for selections 1-14 in 2018, 1-14 in 2019 and 1-14 in 2020; if Oklahoma City has not conveyed a 1st round pick to Minnesota by 2020, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2020 2nd round pick and 2021 2nd round pick to Minnesota [Detroit-Oklahoma City-Utah, 2/19/2015; Minnesota-Utah, 6/30/2017]
What are you seeing where?
I'm using RealGM as well and got:
2018 - 1-14 Own; 15-30 to MIN (via UTH)
2019 - 1-14 Own; 15-30 to MIN (via UTH) if not already settled
Okay, I don’t think you’re interpreting that correctly. And if you are, your deal still doesn’t work. But can you give a link?
If they give their pick this year, they do have their 2019 pick. But you can’t trade picks in consecutive future drafts, so if the pick to Minny is conveyed, the earliest one could go to NY is 2020. But again, they also owe a pick to Orlando beginning in 2020, so the earliest they could actually send a pick to NY is 2022.
Oh ok. Well never mind then. I wasn't aware of that. We'll modify it and post an updated one soon.
TP for that information, @salt. ;D
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Thanks salt- been in a conference all day. Thanks for being a stand-in commish!
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From Zach Lowe's deadline piece yesterday:
Speaking of Orlando: Everyone but Gordon and Isaac is readily available, per sources around the league. Most expect Elfrid Payton, a free agent this summer, to be elsewhere by next season, and I'd agree.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2022 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2022, Top-8 Protected 2023, Unprotected 2024)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Corrected :P
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2022 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2022, Top-8 Protected 2023, Unprotected 2024)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Corrected :P
Sorry, didn’t see another aspect of this trade that won’t work. You can’t waive the players you’re receiving to make a trade work — you have to waive a player currently on your roster.
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2022 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2022, Top-8 Protected 2023, Unprotected 2024)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Corrected :P
Sorry, didn’t see another aspect of this trade that won’t work. You can’t waive the players you’re receiving to make a trade work — you have to waive a player currently on your roster.
Release? Buyout? Something??
@salt, I can't do this anymore!! :P
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks and Thunder have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- Dakari Johnson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2022 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2022, Top-8 Protected 2023, Unprotected 2024)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
To make the trade work, the Knicks will waive Huestis and Johnson.
Corrected :P
Sorry, didn’t see another aspect of this trade that won’t work. You can’t waive the players you’re receiving to make a trade work — you have to waive a player currently on your roster.
Release? Buyout? Something??
@salt, I can't do this anymore!! :P
You can release them after the trade, but not as part of getting to the 15-player maximum.
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REMEMBER, ALL DEALS MUST BE LEGALLY FINALIZED BY TOMORROW AT 3PM EASTERN. Any trades announced on this thread after that point will not count. Any trades that are not legal and have not been adjusted will not count.
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TPs to Defense and Salt for such a great job with this game so far. It has slowed down, but has been a lot of fun. I'm curious to see if things will pick up in a scramble tomorrow afternoon like the NBA deadline!
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Marc Stein tweet:
Pelicans forward Dante Cunningham unhappy with his reduced role following the acquisitions of Larry Nance Jr. and Ersan Ilyasova. Team is looking to find him a mutually agreeable home, and will not have a steep asking price for the deposed rotation player.
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Per Woj: The Milwaukee Bucks are interested in acquiring a veteran 2nd unit point guard for short term help. Willing to talk non essential assets going forward.
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***TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT***
The New Orleans Pelicans and Orlando Magic have agreed to a trade. The Pelicans will receive center Nikola Vucevic in exchange for Omer Asik, the Pelicans 2018 1st round pick (protections described below), the Wizards 2018 2nd round pick, and a 2019 2nd round pick which is the lesser of Minnesota and the Lakers selections.
The protection on the 1st round pick is as follows:
2018 Top-14 protected
2019 Top-10 protected
2019 and 2020 2nd round picks from New Orleans if the pick is not conveyed by 2019.
Trade Machine is unavailable due to the fact that the real-life Pelicans have already traded Asik, but as the difference in salaries between the two players is beneath 25% and it’s a 1-for-1 deal, I don’t need to invoke any weird salary trade rules.
Statements from the teams will follow.
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The Orlando Magic wish to extend their great gratitude for all of the work Nikola has done with the Magic and wish him good luck in New Orleans.
Unfortunately, Nikola no longer matches our timeline and the draft picks from New Orleans are going to help fortify our team for the future.
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Statement from New Orleans Pelicans:
We are extremely excited to welcome Nikola Vucevic to New Orleans. He and Anthony Davis will form one of the best big-man combos in the game, as they play to each other’s strengths. Nikola is still recovering from a hand injury, but we expect him to make his Pelicans debut on February 23rd at home against Miami, and be a major contributor in our fight to make and advance in the playoffs.
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Trade Announcement:
The Milwaukee Bucks and Brooklyn Nets have agreed to a trade. The Nets have traded Spencer Dinwiddie, Jahlil Okafor and Nik Stauskas to the Bucks for DJ Wilson, Tony Snell, and the Milwaukee Bucks 2018 2nd round pick*.
A few caveats about the trade are as follows.
1.) The Nets have taken back more salary than what was sent to the Bucks. The extra salary sent to the Nets is absorbed within their extra space.
2.) The previous protections the Suns owned on the Bucks 2018 2nd had been extinguished as part of the Kawhi Leonard trade. This is an unprotected 2nd headed to the Nets.
3.) This trade brings the Bucks to 15 players.
Statements from teams to follow.
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The Bucks would like to welcome Spencer Dinwiddie, Jahlil Okafor and Nik Stauskas to our organization. We feel Spencer's length, ability to get into the lane and create for others, along with his three point shooting will be a great addition to our team. In the short term he provides a replacement to an injured Brogdon until he returns, and in the long run a valuable member of our back court rotation.
As for Stauskas and Okafor, the rest of this season is a try out for them. We challenge them to prove all of their doubters in the NBA wrong. This is your opportunity to show that you belong, as we believe you do.
We would like to thank Tony Snell for always being a consummate proffesional around our organization. We realize we had to give up a talented young man with potential in Wilson, but that is the cost of acquiring a talent like Dinwiddie.
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The Nets thank Nic, Jahlil, and Spencer for their effort and devotion on the court.
We'd like to welcome Tony Snell and DJ Wilson to our team. We are excited about the shooting and versatility that both will offer as we continue to build a culture of hard work and skill.
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***TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT***
The New Orleans Pelicans and the Boston Celtics have a agreed to send Ian Clark from New Orleans to Boston, and 2-way player Jabari Bird from Boston to New Orleans. The Pelicans have released two-way player Charles Cooke.
Statements from the teams may come later in the day after the trade deadline action has finished.
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Statement from Boston Celtics:
We like to thank the Pelicans for the trade..we feel like we needed a veteran scoring guard off the bench to help us get to the finals..with Ian Clark he brings that..also want to wish Jabari Bird the very best
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Woj tweet:
The Orlando Magic are reportedly looking for a 1st round pick for 25 year old swingman Evan Fournier
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TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Knicks, Thunder, and Pelicans have agreed on a trade. The trade is as follows:
NYK Receives:
- Alex Abrines
- Kyle Singler
- Josh Huestis
- 2019 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2019, Top-8 Protected 2020, Unprotected 2021)
- 2022 OKC 1st Rounder (Lottery Protected 2022, Top-8 Protected 2023, Unprotected 2024)
- 2020 OKC 2nd Rounder
- $1.75 million in cash from New Orleans
OKC Receives:
- Courtney Lee
- Kyle O'Quinn
- Dante Cunningham (NTC waived)
New Orleans Receives:
- Dakari Johnson
- Damyean Dotson
- 2018 2nd Rounder via Boston (56-60)
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycsauqfu
Corrected :P
Trade is updated above, with New Orleans stepping into the deal to take on unwanted players.
Note: The trade link above shows the original deal with OKC sending out enough salary to bring in Lee and O’Quinn. OKC also has a $2.55 million trade exception from Donatas Sabonis, which is being used to absorb Cunningham’s $2.3 million salary. This exception appears in both Trade Machine and on Spotrac. However, either due to ESPN or myself, I cannot get the Trade Machine to use this trade exception.
New Orleans will acquire Dotson via a trade exception for Jameer Nelson (earned earlier in this exercise) and Johnson via the minimum exception, thus creating a $2.3 million exception from Cunningham. The Knicks can probably create an exception or two from this deal, but I don’t know how they want to structure it.
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Statement from New Orleans Pelicans:
We’d like to thank Ian and Dante for their contributions this year. Throughout this season we’ve suffered countless injuries, and both players did their best to suit up every night despite the pain they were fighting through themselves. They helped steady the ship during the early part of the season, and we would not be where we are today without them.
Of course, the injury to DeMarcus reshaped the direction of this team not even two weeks ago, and some of the changes we’ve made as a reaction had reduced their roles. We’re pleased we were able to find both of them places on contending teams, and know they’ll bring value to their new teams throughout the playoffs.
We’re excited to welcome Damyean, Dakari, and Jabari into the fold. All three have bright futures, and we’re looking forward to their contributions both this season and into the future.
With these final two trades, it is likely that the Pelicans have finished their trade deadline activity.
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Would Lebron waive his NTC to play with Ben Simmons and Embiid in Philly? Asking for a friend.
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Would Lebron waive his NTC to play with Ben Simmons and Embiid in Philly? Asking for a friend.
He has made it pretty clear he will not waive his NTC this year.
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If a GM says " Throw in xxxxxxxx player and its a deal" and I am fine with that can I announce the trade if the GM got offline?
Trying to squeeze in a deal before deadline
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If a GM says " Throw in xxxxxxxx player and its a deal" and I am fine with that can I announce the trade if the GM got offline?
Trying to squeeze in a deal before deadline
I think yes. If he really has a problem with it, he can just say no when he gets back.
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*** Trade Alert ***
The Portland Trailer Blazers agree to trade Noah Vonleh and highly protected 2nd round pick
To
Brooklyn Nets for rights to Ilkan Karaman
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9odlg9r
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With how spotty the forums have been in the last 40 minutes (the worst possible time), I’m going to be sure to post this before the 3pm deadline and then figure out if anything needs to be amended later.
**Trade Announcement**
The Cavaliers have agreed to trade LeBron James, Jose Calderon, and Jeff Green to the Philadelphia 76ers for Markelle Fultz, Dario Saric, 2018 LAL 1st round pick (if 1, 6-30, otherwise becomes unprotected 2019 SAC 1st round pick), Furkan Korkmaz, Trevor Booker, and Jerryd Bayless.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybwpuql6
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Can we extend this??
I have been trying to post for the last hour-ish. IF not then void this I guess
****MOCK TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT****
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9koll7h
The Nuggets are sending Wilson Chandler, Darrell Arthur, Emmanuel Muiday + 2018 & 2020 DEN 1st picks to Dallas for Harrison Barnes.
Statements from both teams are expected late in the day.
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Can we extend this??
I have been trying to post for the last hour-ish. IF not then void this I guess
****MOCK TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT****
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9koll7h
The Nuggets are sending Wilson Chandler, Darrell Arthur, Emmanuel Muiday + 2018 & 2020 DEN 1st picks to Dallas for Harrison Barnes.
Statements from both teams are expected late in the day.
I would support an extension. I imagine a lot of last-hour talks fell apart because of celticsblog's issues.
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Can we extend this??
I have been trying to post for the last hour-ish. IF not then void this I guess
****MOCK TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT****
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9koll7h
The Nuggets are sending Wilson Chandler, Darrell Arthur, Emmanuel Muiday + 2018 & 2020 DEN 1st picks to Dallas for Harrison Barnes.
Statements from both teams are expected late in the day.
I would support an extension. I imagine a lot of last-hour talks fell apart because of celticsblog's issues.
Took me an hour to send a message. Started trying a little after 2. I told my counterpart to just post if he liked the offer. Message finally sent at 3:01.
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Yup a real mess trying to work the last minute deals.
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I would be in favor of this.
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I can't get a reaction from the Indiana GM, but this deal was agreed upon since last Wednesday, so I make the trade announcement anyhow.
TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT
The Indiana Pacers and Phoenix Suns have agreed to the following trade:
Indiana Pacers receive: Brandon Knight (currently injured), Dragan Bender, Tyler Ulis and the '18 Phoenix 2nd round pick
Phoenix Suns receive: Darren Collison, TJ Leaf and Joe Young
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Woj is reporting that a deal has been struck between the Orlando Magic and Portland Trailblazers with the Magic sending Evan Fournier to Portland for Evan Turner, Caleb Swanigan and a draft pick but the teams are waiting to hear if there was an extension of the deadline or not so it can be made official.
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The deadline was a dead website although is anyone really surprised I struggle getting this forum to work on slow days nevermind real NBA trade deadline.
Although my phone stopped ringing a week ago so I had nothing even remotely in the works.
I had fun look forward to reviewing how we all did. Thanks for having me!
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So basically the most unlikely player to be traded because of his unrelenting power and his iron tight NTC is traded because there was a fake WOJ tweet? So any NTC player was able to be traded then?
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So basically the most unlikely player to be traded because of his unrelenting power and his iron tight NTC is traded because there was a fake WOJ tweet? So any NTC player was able to be traded then?
Yeah, I have a problem with this too if it was actually allowed as opposed to announced because the Commish couldn’t get online to say “no.” I get trying to be a little lenient to have fun, but as today showed, it’s not like the Cavs were prohibited from making moves for lack of other options.
I guess I should have said Durant was available.
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So basically the most unlikely player to be traded because of his unrelenting power and his iron tight NTC is traded because there was a fake WOJ tweet? So any NTC player was able to be traded then?
Yeah, I have a problem with this too if it was actually allowed as opposed to announced because the Commish couldn’t get online to say “no.” I get trying to be a little lenient to have fun, but as today showed, it’s not like the Cavs were prohibited from making moves for lack of other options.
I guess I should have said Durant was available.
Hey all,
Just want to be crystal clear that I don't expect that Lebron trade to be accepted as final. I expect it to be considered "in review".
I was nervous that the 3pm deadline was approaching and felt with the dead website there was no way that I'd get word back if LBJ would waive his NTC to go to Philly. So I just wanted to put it up there to then be discussed later. Those fake Woj tweets were just me trying to get everybody thinking that maybe he would consider it... I had a planned to unleash a whole arsenal of them before the site crashed.
I figured we'd get some takes out there and then the commish would make a final ruling considering any input from the crowd. I fully accept whatever the commish rules as this was clearly expressed from the beginning of the game. So what are your takes on if LBJ would accept this trade or not?
My honest take is that he would. I think this Philly team is better than his current Cavs team with a better shot to win the title now. Further, Philly will not have the cap space to pursue him as a FA next offseason, but can with his bird rights and this team next year and beyond is certainly more competitive than any team could be which has the cap space to sign him next offseason.
The projected Philly depth chart would be:
Guards: Avery Bradley, JJ Redick, Covington, Luwawu, Calderon
Forwards: Lebron, Simmons (point forward), Covington (super 6th man), Jeff Green, Justin Anderson
Centers: Embiid, Boban, Richaun Holmes
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So basically the most unlikely player to be traded because of his unrelenting power and his iron tight NTC is traded because there was a fake WOJ tweet? So any NTC player was able to be traded then?
Yeah, I have a problem with this too if it was actually allowed as opposed to announced because the Commish couldn’t get online to say “no.” I get trying to be a little lenient to have fun, but as today showed, it’s not like the Cavs were prohibited from making moves for lack of other options.
I guess I should have said Durant was available.
Hey all,
Just want to be crystal clear that I don't expect that Lebron trade to be accepted as final. I expect it to be considered "in review".
I was nervous that the 3pm deadline was approaching and felt with the dead website there was no way that I'd get word back if LBJ would waive his NTC to go to Philly. So I just wanted to put it up there to then be discussed later. Those fake Woj tweets were just me trying to get everybody thinking that maybe he would consider it... I had a planned to unleash a whole arsenal of them before the site crashed.
I figured we'd get some takes out there and then the commish would make a final ruling considering any input from the crowd. I fully accept whatever the commish rules as this was clearly expressed from the beginning of the game. So what are your takes on if LBJ would accept this trade or not?
My honest take is that he would. I think this Philly team is better than his current Cavs team with a better shot to win the title now. Further, Philly will not have the cap space to pursue him as a FA next offseason, but can with his bird rights and this team next year and beyond is certainly more competitive than any team could be which has the cap space to sign him next offseason.
The projected Philly depth chart would be:
Guards: Avery Bradley, JJ Redick, Covington, Luwawu, Calderon
Forwards: Lebron, Simmons (point forward), Covington (super 6th man), Jeff Green, Justin Anderson
Centers: Embiid, Boban, Richaun Holmes
My opinion is that if real-life LeBron had show any willingness to accept a trade, he would not be a Cavalier as of today. But there is a reason that report after report has had him staunchly refusing to consider a trade, and accordingly he should not be traded here. Kudos to the effort, but as far as I’m concerned, he would not waive his NTC to join any team.
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So basically the most unlikely player to be traded because of his unrelenting power and his iron tight NTC is traded because there was a fake WOJ tweet? So any NTC player was able to be traded then?
I think we have to block this Lebron trade if we blocked the other one. The Lakers pretend GM would probably be pretty p---ed if we blocked his based on our judgement, but then flipped for the 76ers.
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DUE TO ISSUES WITH THE FORUM SPEED, WE WILL EXTEND THE MOCK TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL TOMORROW AT 3PM EASTERN. NO TRADES WILL BE ACCEPTED AFTER THAT POINT.
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So basically the most unlikely player to be traded because of his unrelenting power and his iron tight NTC is traded because there was a fake WOJ tweet? So any NTC player was able to be traded then?
Yeah, I have a problem with this too if it was actually allowed as opposed to announced because the Commish couldn’t get online to say “no.” I get trying to be a little lenient to have fun, but as today showed, it’s not like the Cavs were prohibited from making moves for lack of other options.
I guess I should have said Durant was available.
Hey all,
Just want to be crystal clear that I don't expect that Lebron trade to be accepted as final. I expect it to be considered "in review".
I was nervous that the 3pm deadline was approaching and felt with the dead website there was no way that I'd get word back if LBJ would waive his NTC to go to Philly. So I just wanted to put it up there to then be discussed later. Those fake Woj tweets were just me trying to get everybody thinking that maybe he would consider it... I had a planned to unleash a whole arsenal of them before the site crashed.
I figured we'd get some takes out there and then the commish would make a final ruling considering any input from the crowd. I fully accept whatever the commish rules as this was clearly expressed from the beginning of the game. So what are your takes on if LBJ would accept this trade or not?
My honest take is that he would. I think this Philly team is better than his current Cavs team with a better shot to win the title now. Further, Philly will not have the cap space to pursue him as a FA next offseason, but can with his bird rights and this team next year and beyond is certainly more competitive than any team could be which has the cap space to sign him next offseason.
The projected Philly depth chart would be:
Guards: Avery Bradley, JJ Redick, Covington, Luwawu, Calderon
Forwards: Lebron, Simmons (point forward), Covington (super 6th man), Jeff Green, Justin Anderson
Centers: Embiid, Boban, Richaun Holmes
My opinion is that if real-life LeBron had show any willingness to accept a trade, he would not be a Cavalier as of today. But there is a reason that report after report has had him staunchly refusing to consider a trade, and accordingly he should not be traded here. Kudos to the effort, but as far as I’m concerned, he would not waive his NTC to join any team.
Firstly, some of y'all have been taking this fantasy game WAY too seriously lol
Secondly, Action approached me earlier today asking about Lebron. I told him that I doubted any Lebron trade would get accepted, but if he wanted to ask the commissioner he could. And given how terrible the site was doing he decided to just post it on the thread to be determined later, which obviously was the right call.
The only reason I even went along with it is because at that point my entire team was (potentially) gutted for younger prospects and picks. I had potential deals in place for Love, Crowder, and several of the other vets, along with shopping IT around for as high of a pick as I could find. Are you really telling me that Lebron wouldn't waive his no-trade clause if the team was gutted out from underneath him for young prospects and picks? I think he absolutely would, especially given the meager packages for him that were being proposed by Philly's GM.
But at this point all of that doesn't matter. Due to the terrible connections I couldn't even message anyone a little bit after 2 pm, and time expired before I could complete any of those previous potential deals. Hell, half of my messages with trade feelers and offers didn't even get sent out today because apparently the request timed out before sending lol
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
I mean hey, I'm sure you'd love to trade Lebron away from CLE and to a Western team @jpotter33 ;)
Great question. If its ok with everyone, I will decide if the player would wave their no-trade clause to the potential new team.
Just keeping my options open, brah! ;)
Don't know why that posted. If it is ok with everyone, I'll make the call on whether or not the player would wave their no-trade clause.
The team that would be receiving the player with the no-trade clause can make their pitch to me in PM. I will always lean toward allowing the trade if possible (unless its ridiculous).
This was the official ruling on NTCs. I will accept whatever outcome the commissioner rules. If he could make his decision before the end of the night, that would be appreciated.
As for Bucketgetter's comment on LAL, I think LAL and CLE got to make their pitch for that potential deal and the commish ruled against it. If I were Lebron, I would not have waived my NTC to ruin the remainder of my season in LAL. Especially since he can just sign their outright without them having to deplete any assets this offseason. So I understood that ruling.
I've now made my pitch in this thread, which I ask people to consider with an open mind, welcome opinions from everyone on what you think LBJ would do here if you were him, and am interested to hear the commish's ruling.
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But at this point all of that doesn't matter. Due to the terrible connections I couldn't even message anyone a little bit after 2 pm, and time expired before I could complete any of those previous potential deals. Hell, half of my messages with trade feelers and offers didn't even get sent out today because apparently the request timed out before sending lol
JPotter, just want to be sure that you saw that you still have time to re-open any trade talks you had going on with other teams.
DUE TO ISSUES WITH THE FORUM SPEED, WE WILL EXTEND THE MOCK TRADE DEADLINE UNTIL TOMORROW AT 3PM EASTERN. NO TRADES WILL BE ACCEPTED AFTER THAT POINT.
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*** Trade Alert ***
Orlando Magic trade Evan Fournier
to
Portland Trail Blazers for Evan Turner, Caleb Swanigan, and their first round pick (top 7 protected in 2018 and 2019 and unprotected in 2020).
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb2mp2oy
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For clarity’s sake, how are we handling no-trade clauses? Are we just going to have those players off-limits for trades, or should we do some sort of vote to see if the player would actually agree to be traded?
I mean hey, I'm sure you'd love to trade Lebron away from CLE and to a Western team @jpotter33 ;)
Great question. If its ok with everyone, I will decide if the player would wave their no-trade clause to the potential new team.
Just keeping my options open, brah! ;)
Don't know why that posted. If it is ok with everyone, I'll make the call on whether or not the player would wave their no-trade clause.
The team that would be receiving the player with the no-trade clause can make their pitch to me in PM. I will always lean toward allowing the trade if possible (unless its ridiculous).
This was the official ruling on NTCs. I will accept whatever outcome the commissioner rules. If he could make his decision before the end of the night, that would be appreciated.
As for Bucketgetter's comment on LAL, I think LAL and CLE got to make their pitch for that potential deal and the commish ruled against it. If I were Lebron, I would not have waived my NTC to ruin the remainder of my season in LAL. Especially since he can just sign their outright without them having to deplete any assets this offseason. So I understood that ruling.
I've now made my pitch in this thread, which I ask people to consider with an open mind, welcome opinions from everyone on what you think LBJ would do here if you were him, and am interested to hear the commish's ruling.
In spite, James publicly refuses to waive his NTC to go to the Sixers, although "those in his camp" did indicate he would consider going there in free agency if they cleared enough cap space.
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Trade Announcement
The Utah Jazz and the Orlando Magic have agreed to a trade.
The Jazz will send Joe Johnson, Ekpe Udoh, and a 2018 2nd round pick to the Magic for Johnathan Simmons and Sheldon Mack.
(the Jazz send out 13.7 and receive 12.3 million, which works within the 125% rule)
The Jazz would like to thank Joe and Ekpe for their great play and wish them the best of luck moving forward. This move was about getting a versatile veteran on the wing and a skilled point guard who can help run the second unit. Both of them are on good contracts. With this deal, the Jazz also avoid the luxury tax this season.
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The Orlando Magic would like to thank Evan Fournier for everything he's done for the Orlando Magic. We've watched him grow and blossom into a real NBA talent and we're sure he'll go on to have a great career.
The Magic would also like to thank Jonathan Simmons and Shelvin Mack for their contributions. While not with the team for very long, they made an impact in our locker room and we wish them the best.
We also get to welcome Evan Turner, Caleb Swanigan, Joe Johnson, and Ekpe Udoh to the team and look forward to working with them to build something great for the future.
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Ruling by the commish accepted without complaint.
Due to too much uncertainty over the forum connections, Philadelphia is closed for business for the remainder of trade season. It's been great and we are looking forward to our future and the discussion.
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[dang] I wish I had checked sooner that this was extended. Didn't see this until lunch today.
I have two messages out to GMs that I hope get answered.
Any chance we could do Saturday at 3:00? :laugh:
Edit: We can't say D A M N?
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ALL TEAMS NEED TO PM ME WITH YOUR MOCK TRADE RESULTS. PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING FORMAT FOR YOUR MOCK TRADE DEADLINE SUMMARY. DON'T ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR PM.
Outgoing:
Incoming:
One sentence (ONLY ONE) descriptor of your goal at the deadline.
For example, with my team, the Brooklyn Nets.
Outgoing: Lin, Carroll, Okafor, Stauskas, Dinwiddie
Incoming: Parsons, Deyonte Davis, Dillon Brooks, Snell, DJ Wilson, 2018 Bucks 2nd rounder
We wanted to sell-high on our rotation players, take on bad contracts, and receive young, high-upside players and draft assets.
I will post a poll on this thread on Monday. The OP will be updated with your Mock Trade Deadline summary AS FORMATTED ABOVE. I will also ask a mod to move this thread back to the Latest Forum Topics so we can get as many votes as possible. The poll will be open until Thursday at 3pm eastern.
Each poster (from the entire forum) will be able to vote for up to 5 teams that they think did the best to improve their roster. Whoever gets the most votes, wins!
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ALL TEAMS NEED TO PM ME WITH YOUR MOCK TRADE RESULTS. PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING FORMAT FOR YOUR MOCK TRADE DEADLINE SUMMARY. DON'T ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR PM.
Outgoing:
Incoming:
One sentence (ONLY ONE) descriptor of your goal at the deadline.
For example, with my team, the Brooklyn Nets.
Outgoing: Lin, Carroll, Okafor, Stauskas, Dinwiddie
Incoming: Parsons, Deyonte Davis, Dillon Brooks, Snell, DJ Wilson, 2018 Bucks 2nd rounder
We wanted to sell-high on our rotation players, take on bad contracts, and receive young, high-upside players and draft assets.
I will post a poll on this thread on Monday. The OP will be updated with your Mock Trade Deadline summary AS FORMATTED ABOVE. I will also ask a mod to move this thread back to the Latest Forum Topics so we can get as many votes as possible. The poll will be open until Thursday at 3pm eastern.
Each poster (from the entire forum) will be able to vote for up to 5 teams that they think did the best to improve their roster. Whoever gets the most votes, wins!
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ALL TEAMS NEED TO PM ME WITH YOUR MOCK TRADE RESULTS. PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING FORMAT FOR YOUR MOCK TRADE DEADLINE SUMMARY. DON'T ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR PM.
Outgoing:
Incoming:
One sentence (ONLY ONE) descriptor of your goal at the deadline.
For example, with my team, the Brooklyn Nets.
Outgoing: Lin, Carroll, Okafor, Stauskas, Dinwiddie
Incoming: Parsons, Deyonte Davis, Dillon Brooks, Snell, DJ Wilson, 2018 Bucks 2nd rounder
We wanted to sell-high on our rotation players, take on bad contracts, and receive young, high-upside players and draft assets.
I will post a poll on this thread on Monday. The OP will be updated with your Mock Trade Deadline summary AS FORMATTED ABOVE. I will also ask a mod to move this thread back to the Latest Forum Topics so we can get as many votes as possible. The poll will be open until Thursday at 3pm eastern.
Each poster (from the entire forum) will be able to vote for up to 5 teams that they think did the best to improve their roster. Whoever gets the most votes, wins!
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ALL TEAMS NEED TO PM ME WITH YOUR MOCK TRADE RESULTS. PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING FORMAT FOR YOUR MOCK TRADE DEADLINE SUMMARY. DON'T ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR PM.
Outgoing:
Incoming:
One sentence (ONLY ONE) descriptor of your goal at the deadline.
For example, with my team, the Brooklyn Nets.
Outgoing: Lin, Carroll, Okafor, Stauskas, Dinwiddie
Incoming: Parsons, Deyonte Davis, Dillon Brooks, Snell, DJ Wilson, 2018 Bucks 2nd rounder
We wanted to sell-high on our rotation players, take on bad contracts, and receive young, high-upside players and draft assets.
I will post a poll on this thread on Monday. The OP will be updated with your Mock Trade Deadline summary AS FORMATTED ABOVE. I will also ask a mod to move this thread back to the Latest Forum Topics so we can get as many votes as possible. The poll will be open until Thursday at 3pm eastern.
Each poster (from the entire forum) will be able to vote for up to 5 teams that they think did the best to improve their roster. Whoever gets the most votes, wins!
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Also, if you want to fully explain your mock trade deadline, please use the following thread:
http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=95224.msg2459735#new
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ALL TEAMS NEED TO PM ME WITH YOUR MOCK TRADE RESULTS. PLEASE USE THE FOLLOWING FORMAT FOR YOUR MOCK TRADE DEADLINE SUMMARY. DON'T ADD ANY MORE INFORMATION TO YOUR PM.
Outgoing:
Incoming:
One sentence (ONLY ONE) descriptor of your goal at the deadline.
For example, with my team, the Brooklyn Nets.
Outgoing: Lin, Carroll, Okafor, Stauskas, Dinwiddie
Incoming: Parsons, Deyonte Davis, Dillon Brooks, Snell, DJ Wilson, 2018 Bucks 2nd rounder
We wanted to sell-high on our rotation players, take on bad contracts, and receive young, high-upside players and draft assets.
I will post a poll on this thread on Monday. The OP will be updated with your Mock Trade Deadline summary AS FORMATTED ABOVE. I will also ask a mod to move this thread back to the Latest Forum Topics so we can get as many votes as possible. The poll will be open until Thursday at 3pm eastern.
Each poster (from the entire forum) will be able to vote for up to 5 teams that they think did the best to improve their roster. Whoever gets the most votes, wins!