Celticsblog fantasy baseball keeper league (year 2)

[yall hate]

our league is officially full.  tomorrow I will post everyone's keepers in this thread, set the draft order and make the necessary changes in yahoo. 

[yall hate]

ok, the keepers are all entered into yahoo's system.  Hopefully everything goes smoothly. 

the draft order (based on last years results) is as follows:
GomesFan
The power Of the Sleeve
Minnesota M&M Boys
The Naturals
Stop Snitchin'
The Knuckleballers
Year 2000
LB3533
Sac Fly
Ya'll Hate
The Keith Foulkes
Redz' Sockz

Additionally, here is a list of everyone's keepers:

Ya’ll Hate
Prince Fielder 1B
Alfonso Soriano OF
Russell Martin C
Cole Hamels SP
Dan Haren SP
Adrian Gonzalez 1B
Evan Longoria 3b
   
Redz Sockz
Utley 2B
Beltran OF
F. Rodriguez RP
McCann C
Sheets SP
Votto OF/1B
Qualls RP

GomesFan
Dustin Pedroia 2B
Kevin Youkilis 1B/3B
Mariano Rivera RP
Carlos Lee OF
Vladimir Guerrero OF
Alex Rios OF
David Ortiz 1B

The Knuckleballers
Arod 3B
Manny OF
Brandon Webb SP
Roy Halliday SP
John Lester SP
Brian Wilson RP
Joba Chamberlain SP

Year 2000
Joe Nathan RP
Ryan Doumit C/1B
Derrek Lee 1B
Alexei Ramirez 2B/SS/OF
Aramis Ramirez 3B
Matt Holliday OF
Grady Sizemore OF   

The Keith Foulkes
Hanley Ramirez SS
Ian Kinsler 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Dioner Navarro C
Jacoby Ellsbury OF
Francisco Liriano SP
Rich Harden SP

The Naturals
Pujols 1B
Berkman 1B/OF
Chipper 3B
Dunn 1B/OF
Peavy SP
Oswalt SP
Abreu OF
   
Minnesota M&M Boys
David Wright 3B
Geovany Soto C
Nick Markakis OF
Brandon Phillips 2B
Tim Lincecum SP
Ryan Ludwick OF
Magglio Ordonez OF

The Power of the Sleave
Jimmy Rollins SS
Josh Hamilton OF
Delmon Young OF
Brian Roberts 2B
Ryan Braun 3B/OF
Trevor Hoffman RP
Hunter Pence OF
   
Sac Fly
B.J. Upton 2B/OF
James Shields SP
Jay Bruce OF
Joakim Soria RP
Jose Reyes  SS
Justin Morneau 1B
Matt Kemp OF

Stop Snitchin
Ryan Howard 1B
Miguel Cabrera 3B/1B
Ichiro Suzuki OF
Victor Martinez C
Carlos Zambrano SP
CC Sabathia SP
Bobby Jenks RP

LB3533
Johan Santana SP
Josh Beckett SP
Jonathon Papelbon RP
Jason Bay OF
Carlos Quentin OF
Carl Crawford OF
Joe Mauer C

[yall hate]

If anyone is interested in Russel Martin, I am willing to move him.  send me a message if you are interested.

[Redz]

good work Yall

[Roy Hobbs]

ok, the keepers are all entered into yahoo's system.  Hopefully everything goes smoothly. 

the draft order (based on last years results) is as follows:
GomesFan
The power Of the Sleeve
Minnesota M&M Boys
The Naturals
Stop Snitchin'
The Knuckleballers
Year 2000
LB3533
Sac Fly
Ya'll Hate
The Keith Foulkes
Redz' Sockz

Are you going by regular season record, or record based on how teams finished in the consolation rounds?  I mention that because my team finished with by far the worst regular season record, but apparently squeaked out a 9th place finish in the playoffs.

If this is the decision for this season, I'm fine with it.  However, I'd suggest that draft position not be based upon playoff position in the future, especially for the teams playing in the consolation bracket.  From my experience in fantasy basketball, teams rarely set their rosters for those rounds.  If we're tying draft position to our finish in those rounds, it makes even less sense to participate; I know if I miss the playoffs, I will be sitting all of my players to guarantee the #1 pick.

[yall hate]

ok, the keepers are all entered into yahoo's system.  Hopefully everything goes smoothly. 

the draft order (based on last years results) is as follows:
GomesFan
The power Of the Sleeve
Minnesota M&M Boys
The Naturals
Stop Snitchin'
The Knuckleballers
Year 2000
LB3533
Sac Fly
Ya'll Hate
The Keith Foulkes
Redz' Sockz

Are you going by regular season record, or record based on how teams finished in the consolation rounds?  I mention that because my team finished with by far the worst regular season record, but apparently squeaked out a 9th place finish in the playoffs.

If this is the decision for this season, I'm fine with it.  However, I'd suggest that draft position not be based upon playoff position in the future, especially for the teams playing in the consolation bracket.  From my experience in fantasy basketball, teams rarely set their rosters for those rounds.  If we're tying draft position to our finish in those rounds, it makes even less sense to participate; I know if I miss the playoffs, I will be sitting all of my players to guarantee the #1 pick.

I did set it based on the final results (which included playoffs).  This was the way it was listed when I went back into Yahoo and looked. 

I didnt even think about this until now, and I think you raise good points, but I think there are good points on the other side as well.  I finished first in the regular season but got whooped in the playoffs.  clearly my team wasn't the best. 

I am not sure I can change the draft order (without re-doing all of the keepers, which I would prefer not to...although if enough people want it, I will do it).  I guess people can weigh in their opinion and I can make any necessary changes. 

[Redz]

Yeh, I forget how I finished, but it wasn't first...But I'll be happy to accept tehe punishment for winning the big prize coming out of nowhere.

[yall hate]

Roy brings up some good points about the tanking issue.

I looked on google for some people's opinions as to how they deal with tanking in head to head situations for keeper leagues. 

A few potential solutions:

the teams in the consolation round compete for first pick.  If you 'win' the consolation round, you get the first pick, and the draft order would go from there...

A second option would be just to ban tanking. this is from a 'constitution' I found haha.

If a fantasy player is determined to be intentionally trying to lose a game or games,
   “tanking” will be declared. If it appears that tanking is happening, the situation will
   be reviewed by the commissioner and presented to the league for a vote. Six votes from
   league members are needed to “declare tanking.” If a tanking is declared on a player,
   that player will automatically be moved to the #12 pick of the next draft (no matter if
   it is the mid-season or start of season draft). That player may also be subject to expulsion
   from the league if the disorderly conduct is severe enough.

[yall hate]

also...do we want to increase the number of DL spots from 1 to 2?

I think this came up last year, but I can't remember.

[celts4life]

also...do we want to increase the number of DL spots from 1 to 2?

I think this came up last year, but I can't remember.

Yes, I do remember this being brought up at some point.  I'd definitely like to see the DL spots increased for management purposes.  I think two is reasonable.

And regarding the draft order, it doesn't matter a whole lot to me.  I'll sign off on whatever you guys prefer.

[yall hate]

I have switched the DL spots to 2 from the 1.

We still need to figure out a tanking policy.

[celts4life]

We still need to figure out a tanking policy.

I'm in support of either tanking options.  Personally, I think the one where it would need to be declared by a league vote would be the most effective (and democratic  ).  Winning the consolation bracket sounds good, but I'm not sure how well it would work.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

[yall hate]

We still need to figure out a tanking policy.

I'm in support of either tanking options.  Personally, I think the one where it would need to be declared by a league vote would be the most effective (and democratic  ).  Winning the consolation bracket sounds good, but I'm not sure how well it would work.

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

I also prefer the league voting one.

I think people are missing the thread...so we will try and generate some discussion on the yahoo page after the draft.

[hpantazo]

just to be sure, do we draft our keepers with our first 7 picks or are they automatically on our teams?

[celts4life]

just to be sure, do we draft our keepers with our first 7 picks or are they automatically on our teams?

From what I've gathered, I believe they are already on our teams and we will be drafting from the pool of players who weren't kept.  But I'm sure yall hate can give you the definitive answer.