Al Horford has been mediocre. He doesnt deserve his salary

[Ogaju]

This thread has not aged well

[Roy H.]

Even when he has a terrible game, he comes through when it matters (miss FT aside).

Keep in mind that Embiid was 10-for-26.  Horford did his job.

Not to knock Al after an incredible finish but a lot of that was Baynes.

Some of it, sure, but Baynes only played 23 minutes.  Al did his job on Embiid.  I have a hard time calling Al's game in any way sub-par, let alone terrible.

To add to that:

* 2 steals
* 3 blocks
* 4 "screen assists"
* 2 deflections
* 1 loose ball recovered
* 7 box outs
* 12 contested 2PT FGAs
* 5 contested 3PT FGAs

Horford's 17 contested shots were by far the best on the team; Baynes was second with 10.  Horford also led in screen assists, blocks, steals and box outs.

Where do you get those stats?

NBA.com box scores.  There's an option for the "hustle" box score.

Awesome. TP to you.

No problem.  I'm anxiously awaiting this one to be populated, so that we can see how the various defenders did:

https://stats.nba.com/game/0041700213/matchups/

We are in a golden age for being able to dig deeper into the game.

[Roy H.]

This thread has not aged well

Nah, this thread was just wrong from the beginning.

[kozlodoev]

This thread has not aged well

Nah, this thread was just wrong from the beginning.

Absolutely. Al is not mediocre, he's average

[fairweatherfan]

I came here to post a hysterical laughter gif at the people who ever thought Horford wasn't hugely valuable, but I decided that at this point it's so obvious that they're wrong and always have been, it just seems mean and small to keep piling on.

 

It's just a good opportunity to celebrate how great Horford's been for this crazy wonderful doomed run.

The people who dumped on him - we can just say "welcome onboard, better late than never" and we can all revel in it together as equal Cs fans.

[Ogaju]

Not a Gator fan but liked him from his Florida days...just seems like a class act. Hated when Cs played against him as a Hawk because again he was so good and so difficult to root against. Glad he is putting it on for the Celtics hope he wins a ring with the Cs.

[hwangjini_1]

This thread has not aged well

Nah, this thread was just wrong from the beginning.

Absolutely. Al is not mediocre, he's average

al only had 13 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 assists tonight, in one of the biggest games of the year for the celtics. why do they keep starting this bum?

simmons had 16 points, 8 rebounds, and 8 assists...almost a triple double. we can see who the star is here. ROY if there ever was one.


 

[SparzWizard]

This thread should be deleted, but I think it'll be fun to keep bumping it after every Horford highlights in the postseason 

Although I think the Horford naysayers will return if he has a bad game.

[Roy H.]

Even when he has a terrible game, he comes through when it matters (miss FT aside).

Keep in mind that Embiid was 10-for-26.  Horford did his job.

Not to knock Al after an incredible finish but a lot of that was Baynes.

Finally got some stats on this.

Embiid vs. Horford:

4-for-12, 8 points, 2 turnovers, blocked twice

Embiid vs. Baynes:

6-for-13, 14 points, 0 turnovers, not blocked

Those two account for 71 of Embiid’s 80 possessions.

https://stats.nba.com/game/0041700213/matchups/?OFF_PLAYER_ID=203954&DEF_PLAYER_ID=

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

lol

HAs the OP come back yet?

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

Al was amazing tonight

he showed me!

nvermind this answered my question lol

[Phantom255x]

7 pts tonight.  Previously 2 other duds. Overall just not cutting it

He is expecting Kyrie to do most of the heavy lifting on the offensive end. Plus has been plain average on defense

What to do with this guy?  Maybe its time to consider trading him (and eat 50 cents on the dollar)

Trade for a cheaper option like Dedmon to take care of things around the paint

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[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

7 pts tonight.  Previously 2 other duds. Overall just not cutting it

He is expecting Kyrie to do most of the heavy lifting on the offensive end. Plus has been plain average on defense

What to do with this guy?  Maybe its time to consider trading him (and eat 50 cents on the dollar)

Trade for a cheaper option like Dedmon to take care of things around the paint

The original post 

lololol

[chambers]

Even when he has a terrible game, he comes through when it matters (miss FT aside).

Keep in mind that Embiid was 10-for-26.  Horford did his job.

Not to knock Al after an incredible finish but a lot of that was Baynes.

Finally got some stats on this.

Embiid vs. Horford:

4-for-12, 8 points, 2 turnovers, blocked twice

Embiid vs. Baynes:

6-for-13, 14 points, 0 turnovers, not blocked

Those two account for 71 of Embiid’s 80 possessions.

https://stats.nba.com/game/0041700213/matchups/?OFF_PLAYER_ID=203954&DEF_PLAYER_ID=

They've played with different line ups too though. I'm not saying your stats don't have merit (they obviously do) but Horford's *potentially* playing with a better defensive unit around him in this series too, making it somewhat easier to defend Embid.

[kozlodoev]

7 pts tonight.  Previously 2 other duds. Overall just not cutting it

He is expecting Kyrie to do most of the heavy lifting on the offensive end. Plus has been plain average on defense

What to do with this guy?  Maybe its time to consider trading him (and eat 50 cents on the dollar)

Trade for a cheaper option like Dedmon to take care of things around the paint

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In fairness, he's still expecting other people to do the heavy lifting on the offensive end. It's good for him that has worked out with Rozier, Brown, and Tatum. Heck, even Brad said we can't expect him to carry the team on his back offensively on a regular basis.