That Rondo Thread

[greece66]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcBnJw-H2wQ

[Hemingway]

You guys are terrible fans, you wanted Rondo gone for so long and finally got your wish. He's going to prove you guys wrong and have a great year.

Also the "he will be in China next year" comment are silly. I live in China now and Rondo would be a terrible fit for a CBA team. The Chinese players can't really play they just pass it to the foreigner and hope he can score 50 a game. Rondo needs to be out there with 4 guys who can score, not 4 guys watching him and hoping he scores.

all of us here are fans of the celtics. we share a similar love for a team, but that does not mean we support our team identically, all of us in all the same way.

please don't abuse others here because their opinions differ from yours. instead, present reasonable, supported opinions. and if others differ, and they will, acknowledge their views and move on.

simply because others hold differing views is not a reason to denigrate or belittle them or their fanhood.

Did I really abuse anyone?

Yes, and you just made it even worse.

Oh man, so sorry. I guess I double abused you. I'm sure you can find some funny graphic that will show me.

edit: didn't see page 4, you beat me to it.

[RAAAAAAAANDY]

Rondo will probably improve their shooting a few percentage points. getting a perfect pass with the laces in your sweet spot makes a difference. that half a second where a player either has to adjust the ball in their hands or not makes a lot of difference. On some level, no matter how much you block the thought out, if you think your shot might get blocked you are less likely to make it. Good passing is really under rated. People tend to look at passing in terms of assists, fancy passes and ones that get open layups due to the passers vision. But just a simple pass has a lot to it.

Given that his lack of spacing will probably prevent them from getting to the rim as easily I find this incredibly unlikely. Especially considering that unless he's had 3 HOF'ers in the lineup with him he's struggled to run an above average offense. Unless you consider taking the top offense in the NBA in Dallas at the time of the trade and leading it to the 13th rank the rest of the way a success.

[Celtics18]

Rondo will probably improve their shooting a few percentage points. getting a perfect pass with the laces in your sweet spot makes a difference. that half a second where a player either has to adjust the ball in their hands or not makes a lot of difference. On some level, no matter how much you block the thought out, if you think your shot might get blocked you are less likely to make it. Good passing is really under rated. People tend to look at passing in terms of assists, fancy passes and ones that get open layups due to the passers vision. But just a simple pass has a lot to it.

Given that his lack of spacing will probably prevent them from getting to the rim as easily I find this incredibly unlikely. Especially considering that unless he's had 3 HOF'ers in the lineup with him he's struggled to run an above average offense. Unless you consider taking the top offense in the NBA in Dallas at the time of the trade and leading it to the 13th rank the rest of the way a success.

Ideally Rondo will be the one doing most of the getting to the rim.  He'll then find his talented scoring teammates for easy baskets once the defense breaks down.  That's how it worked in Boston. 

[SHAQATTACK]

I saddened by the lack of respect for Rondo.

[thirstyboots18]

I saddened by the lack of respect for Rondo.

This.  If loyalty is so temporary, is it still loyalty?

[Surferdad]

I saddened by the lack of respect for Rondo.

I don't think respect is something you earn and then put it up on the wall like a trophy, never to be taken away.  You have to continue to maintain your credibility and integrity, no matter who your are.

I loved Rondo when he was with the Celtics and he helped us get a banner.  He is a champion.

BUT, what he did to his teammates in Dallas is inexcusable.  JMO.

[slamtheking]

absolutely bring him back!!   that way I can go back to wearing my Rondo shirt without looking nostalgic

[hwangjini_1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcBnJw-H2wQ

thanks for the video g666. good advice indeed for this thread. tp of course.

[GreenFaith1819]

I saddened by the lack of respect for Rondo.

I don't think respect is something you earn and then put it up on the wall like a trophy, never to be taken away.  You have to continue to maintain your credibility and integrity, no matter who your are.

I loved Rondo when he was with the Celtics and he helped us get a banner.  He is a champion.

BUT, what he did to his teammates in Dallas is inexcusable.  JMO.

You mean, "what Cuban, Carlylse AND Rondo did to each other."

It takes two (or three) to tango.

DAL is a mess right now. If they could've gotten the Rondo thing to work, I'm guessing that DeAndre would've had a better shot at staying.

IMO, DAL deserves everything that's happening to them, now.

[Surferdad]

I saddened by the lack of respect for Rondo.

I don't think respect is something you earn and then put it up on the wall like a trophy, never to be taken away.  You have to continue to maintain your credibility and integrity, no matter who your are.

I loved Rondo when he was with the Celtics and he helped us get a banner.  He is a champion.

BUT, what he did to his teammates in Dallas is inexcusable.  JMO.

You mean, "what Cuban, Carlylse AND Rondo did to each other."

It takes two (or three) to tango.

DAL is a mess right now. If they could've gotten the Rondo thing to work, I'm guessing that DeAndre would've had a better shot at staying.

IMO, DAL deserves everything that's happening to them, now.

Look, I admit I don't know the details.  But I know two things that are public information:
1) Rondo quit on his team during the playoffs. What could Cuban and Carlisle possibly have said to him to cause that kind of response?  His teammates apparently had nothing to do with it yet they suffered.
2) Right after the incident, Carlisle said publicly that Rondo would never play for the team again, without explaining why. It must have been REAL BAD for him to say that, in public.

I am no Cuban fan, that's for sure but Rondo already had a nice resume locker room stuff.  The point is, no thanks to a Rondo return.

[GreenFaith1819]

I saddened by the lack of respect for Rondo.

I don't think respect is something you earn and then put it up on the wall like a trophy, never to be taken away.  You have to continue to maintain your credibility and integrity, no matter who your are.

I loved Rondo when he was with the Celtics and he helped us get a banner.  He is a champion.

BUT, what he did to his teammates in Dallas is inexcusable.  JMO.

You mean, "what Cuban, Carlylse AND Rondo did to each other."

It takes two (or three) to tango.

DAL is a mess right now. If they could've gotten the Rondo thing to work, I'm guessing that DeAndre would've had a better shot at staying.

IMO, DAL deserves everything that's happening to them, now.

Look, I admit I don't know the details.  But I know two things that are public information:
1) Rondo quit on his team during the playoffs. What could Cuban and Carlisle possibly have said to him to cause that kind of response?  His teammates apparently had nothing to do with it yet they suffered.
2) Right after the incident, Carlisle said publicly that Rondo would never play for the team again, without explaining why. It must have been REAL BAD for him to say that, in public.

I am no Cuban fan, that's for sure but Rondo already had a nice resume locker room stuff.  The point is, no thanks to a Rondo return.

The bolded part is quite important.

Additionally, I've never said on here that Rondo was a saint.

With that being said, I'm in Rondo's corner to the fact that SOMETHING happened to have that meltdown. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Ideally, whatever Carlysle said to him for that to happen, Rondo would've took it in stride. I accept this.

But why in tarnation would you bring a PG of his caliber to DAL and not let him do his job?

I've said it before and I'll say it again - I chuckled to myself as DeAndre left DAL.

Karma is quite a thing.

[Hemingway]

What kills me is that if there was a poll asking if you would want rondo back on a minimum contract I bet there would be more "no"s than "yes"s. The Creme de whatever is "celtic fans" now say he was dribbling too much and forcing things. We lost a once in a generation point guard. (and it was the right move as Ainge said he didn't think he would resign- and Crowder is no chop liver) but why do we have to bash him on the way out? What did he do to us? He played his heart out! And the real irony of it all is the same people who claim he was being lazy and taking nights off last year are the same ones who wished we tanked. They are not fans. Sorry but they are not.

[SHAQATTACK]

Sheed

[freshinthehouse]

Any player that continuously shoots in the 50-60% range on their free throws isn't playing their heart out, IMO.  They are not working on a glaring weakness in their game.  I've always had the same issue with Antoine Walker apologists.  If he loved playing for the Celtics so much, why did he let his game continue to deteriorate?