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Offline nickagneta

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If the season is cancelled, the Basketball Related Income for this season will take a massive hit. Depending on how everything is handled(meaning no smoothing of cap numbers) the salary cap could not just be lower than projections, but lower than in 2019-20.

That means for free agents, or players with opt outs that can become free agents, their new max salaries and contracts in general could be much lower in 2020-21 as compared to 2021-22. So for these players with opt out clauses, maybe it makes more sense to take the payday next year and opt out in 2021 where more teams will have money and the salaries will be much higher after a full 2020-21 season.

So given all this, does it make it a no brainer for Hayward to not opt out, play next year in Boston and become a free agent in 2021? I think it does. I think it just about guarantees Hayward is back next year, which I think is a good thing.
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Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2020, 03:48:40 PM »

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Based on his inability to stay healthy and erratic on-court performance, I would be very surprised if he opts out. Discounting personal reasons (wanting to play in a specific town, etc)

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If the season is cancelled, the Basketball Related Income for this season will take a massive hit. Depending on how everything is handled(meaning no smoothing of cap numbers) the salary cap could not just be lower than projections, but lower than in 2019-20.

That means for free agents, or players with opt outs that can become free agents, their new max salaries and contracts in general could be much lower in 2020-21 as compared to 2021-22. So for these players with opt out clauses, maybe it makes more sense to take the payday next year and opt out in 2021 where more teams will have money and the salaries will be much higher after a full 2020-21 season.

So given all this, does it make it a no brainer for Hayward to not opt out, play next year in Boston and become a free agent in 2021? I think it does. I think it just about guarantees Hayward is back next year, which I think is a good thing.

Hayward is going to think of this year as a huge what if?

Considering the fact the NBA got shut down, and his commitment to Stevens, I would assume he would at least opt in. And then explore extension talks down the line if all goes well.

Either way, naysayers will say Hayward wasn't that good this year despite his advanced stats proving how useful he was.
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Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2020, 04:12:22 PM »

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Always felt he would opt in.  Feel no differently now.

Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2020, 04:28:26 PM »

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Hope he comes back.

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Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2020, 04:42:15 PM »

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Man, Hayward sat out his entire first year of the contract. And then played horribly in his second year. And now he only gets to play 2/3 of the season in his third year.


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Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
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Always felt he would opt in.  Feel no differently now.

He'll opt in unless he gets another long term contract or sixers want to sign another bench player.

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It'll be pretty awful for the Cs if he does. They needed to stay under the luxury tax next season in order to re-start the clock. With the salary cap sure to take a hit, there will really be no way for that to happen if Hayward opts in. Let's just hope the Cs can work out a deal with him and they still manage to get under the cap.

Hopefully there will be some exception in place due to these unforeseen circumstances. I know people don't care how much money the owners spend, but the repeater tax is quite constraining to teams. It'd be a shame if we managed to get this far, but then Hayward just opted in to his big fat contract.

Note: I really do want Hayward to stick around.

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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2020, 04:56:33 PM »

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It'll be pretty awful for the Cs if he does. They needed to stay under the luxury tax next season in order to re-start the clock. With the salary cap sure to take a hit, there will really be no way for that to happen if Hayward opts in. Let's just hope the Cs can work out a deal with him and they still manage to get under the cap.

Hopefully there will be some exception in place due to these unforeseen circumstances. I know people don't care how much money the owners spend, but the repeater tax is quite constraining to teams. It'd be a shame if we managed to get this far, but then Hayward just opted in to his big fat contract.

Note: I really do want Hayward to stick around.
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Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
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oh he's definitely opting in now.

Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
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Yeah, at this point, he is def opting in.  No brainer for him.  Good for us too.
Even though our big development year for Tatum and Brown got cut short, we are going to be good next year.  I am excited.

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On another note, it could be a good time to opt out of Theis and sign him to a 2-3 year deal at the same type of money.

Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
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Kanter likely to opt in as well

Re: Does a cancelled season assure a Hayward return?
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Happy to see Hayward come back and hopefully get a decent extension perhaps as well.

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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2020, 07:39:31 PM »

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It'll be pretty awful for the Cs if he does. They needed to stay under the luxury tax next season in order to re-start the clock. With the salary cap sure to take a hit, there will really be no way for that to happen if Hayward opts in. Let's just hope the Cs can work out a deal with him and they still manage to get under the cap.

Hopefully there will be some exception in place due to these unforeseen circumstances. I know people don't care how much money the owners spend, but the repeater tax is quite constraining to teams. It'd be a shame if we managed to get this far, but then Hayward just opted in to his big fat contract.

Note: I really do want Hayward to stick around.

My guess is that there will be some mitigation on the tax next year.  Revenues could be so low as to bump the majority of the league into the tax.  Wouldn’t surprise me if they suspended it for a season.