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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: KGBirdBias on October 22, 2017, 05:45:19 PM
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If Bledsoe wants out, hey why not. Irving and Bledsoe would be like a Dillard\McCollum backcourt. We need more scoring and experience.
Smart, Yabu and a pick. The Suns need someone who Will play defense anyway.
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no
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So many problems with this idea lol
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If Bledsoe wants out, hey why not. Irving and Bledsoe would be like a Dillard\McCollum backcourt. We need more scoring and experience.
Smart, Yabu and a pick. The Suns need someone who Will play defense anyway.
I would do it.
I don't think Bledsoe's best days are behind him. I still think he's an explosive two way guard, that can in the right situation put up astounding and stellar numbers, and why he was once deemed the nick name: "Mini-LBJ."
Bledsoe would help mitigate the loss of Hayward, with his two way presence, and scoring presence. The problem with Kyrie and Bledsoe, is they are both sub-par passes, and I believe Smart is coming up in the books as a potential great playmaker in the future.
If Smart could at least shoot the league average of 34-35%, he would be the perfect guard to put in Steven's system. But unfortunately, while this isn't a LSS, Smart isn't exactly doing too well... He's off to another woeful 27%. And once again, his shot selection isn't going to be any better, with Hayward out, and less offensive options on board to score.
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If Bledsoe wants out, hey why not. Irving and Bledsoe would be like a Dillard\McCollum backcourt. We need more scoring and experience.
Smart, Yabu and a pick. The Suns need someone who Will play defense anyway.
I would do it.
I don't think Bledsoe's best days are behind him. I still think he's an explosive two way guard, that can in the right situation put up astounding and stellar numbers, and why he was once deemed the nick name: "Mini-LBJ."
Bledsoe would help mitigate the loss of Hayward, with his two way presence, and scoring presence. The problem with Kyrie and Bledsoe, is they are both sub-par passes, and I believe Smart is coming up in the books as a potential great playmaker in the future.
If Smart could at least shoot the league average of 34-35%, he would be the perfect guard to put in Steven's system. But unfortunately, while this isn't a LSS, Smart isn't exactly doing too well... He's off to another woeful 27%. And once again, his shot selection isn't going to be any better, with Hayward out, and less offensive options on board to score.
I dont think this trade would be a good idea, but even if I did it doesnt work in the CBA.
Bledsoe has a 15 mil contract. Cant match it without giving up someone you really cant lose (Tatum, Brown, Morris, Baynes, Horford, Irving, Hayward)
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LOL I kind of knew this idea wouldn't get much love. The Suns just fired Watson so Bledsoe will probably be staying put now.
I think it could work but the money doesn't line up.
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The Suns just fired Watson so Bledsoe will probably be staying put now.
Id guessing Bledsoe knew Watson was gone when he tweeted this?
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No.
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Money doesn't currently match up at all. Other than that absolutely.
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It would be clutch if it were possible to include our DPE in this trade but we can't. Would be hard to match salaries.
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No thanks
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Maybe spurs
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got enough scorers. need Smart's D and other contributions on the floor.
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Ugh no. Don't like Bledsoe at all.
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yuk
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Why would we have 2 starting playmakers ? What we need is a Klay Thompson type.
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Hear me out.
Trade both Marcus's and Yabusele for Bledsoe and the Suns' first round pick owed from the Heat in 2018. Yes, that leaves us weak on the front line, but use our DPE to get a PF or C.
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6955606
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
I am NOT sure that I would do this, but this works on realgm's trade checker.
Thoughts?
Smitty77
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Hear me out.
Trade both Marcus's and Yabusele for Bledsoe and the Suns' first round pick owed from the Heat in 2018. Yes, that leaves us weak on the front line, but use our DPE to get a PF or C.
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6955606
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
I am NOT sure that I would do this, but this works on realgm's trade checker.
Thoughts?
Smitty77
I don't want to cripple our bench
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We could always do Horford for Bledsoe and Chandler.
That sounds like a good idea...right? ??? And I am sure Horford would love PHX!
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Horford is too good. You want to treat him with roses and candy every day and pray he signs for the vet min in a few years, sign AD and have an unbeatable team. Horford is the perfect center for our team. What you're suggesting is awful. Chandler is basically done. Bledsoe has no room here.
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The salaries can't be matched and Bledsoe is very injury prone...
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Horford is too good. You want to treat him with roses and candy every day and pray he signs for the vet min in a few years, sign AD and have an unbeatable team. Horford is the perfect center for our team. What you're suggesting is awful. Chandler is basically done. Bledsoe has no room here.
Oh, I was just kidding - just stating the obvious salary match. There is no way even Ainge would do that to Horford (1+ years after he chose to sign here).
People here have been hoping for a Chandler buyout; I figured I would just include him in the deal since we would obviously need a replacement center with Horford going out.
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Horford is too good. You want to treat him with roses and candy every day and pray he signs for the vet min in a few years, sign AD and have an unbeatable team. Horford is the perfect center for our team. What you're suggesting is awful. Chandler is basically done. Bledsoe has no room here.
lol
Considering the rate at which Horford is declining as a scorer and rebounder, the Vet Min is about all he's going to be worth by the time this current contract is up.
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If Bledsoe wants out, hey why not. Irving and Bledsoe would be like a Dillard\McCollum backcourt. We need more scoring and experience.
Smart, Yabu and a pick. The Suns need someone who Will play defense anyway.
The department store? Brb shopping...:laugh:
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Horford is too good. You want to treat him with roses and candy every day and pray he signs for the vet min in a few years, sign AD and have an unbeatable team. Horford is the perfect center for our team. What you're suggesting is awful. Chandler is basically done. Bledsoe has no room here.
lol
Considering the rate at which Horford is declining as a scorer and rebounder, the Vet Min is about all he's going to be worth by the time this current contract is up.
Horford is significantly better than the stats show. He's involved in basically every play. He's aging nicely. Remember he entered the league at 21. He has 9 years of NBA on his legs. Compare that to Irving who is considered entering his prime on 6 years experience. If we can lock him into a vet min in 3 years it's going to be huge. He's great at pnr. He can shoot 3s. He's a solid rebounder. He's a good rim protector. Plus hes really smart, is a leader and easygoing. He's the prototypical modern NBA big.
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I am just say vote 'no' on all trades for the moment. Love this team for after this season.
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Bledsoe would be a terrible fit next to Kyrie.
No thanks.
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If Bledsoe wants out, hey why not. Irving and Bledsoe would be like a Dillard\McCollum backcourt. We need more scoring and experience.
Smart, Yabu and a pick. The Suns need someone who Will play defense anyway.
I would do it.
I don't think Bledsoe's best days are behind him. I still think he's an explosive two way guard, that can in the right situation put up astounding and stellar numbers, and why he was once deemed the nick name: "Mini-LBJ."
Bledsoe would help mitigate the loss of Hayward, with his two way presence, and scoring presence. The problem with Kyrie and Bledsoe, is they are both sub-par passes, and I believe Smart is coming up in the books as a potential great playmaker in the future.
If Smart could at least shoot the league average of 34-35%, he would be the perfect guard to put in Steven's system. But unfortunately, while this isn't a LSS, Smart isn't exactly doing too well... He's off to another woeful 27%. And once again, his shot selection isn't going to be any better, with Hayward out, and less offensive options on board to score.
I don't think we want to mitigate the loss of Hayward. We are still focusing on the future, not this season.
I management thinks Bledsoe is a valuable enough piece alongside Kyrie, Hayward, etc next season, fine. But making the move just for this season? No thanks. Play the young guys and let them develop.
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Inefficient, turnover prone, injury prone, mediocre 3pt shooter, undersized, overrated defender with a usage rate like I.T. Just what we need.
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Hear me out.
Trade both Marcus's and Yabusele for Bledsoe and the Suns' first round pick owed from the Heat in 2018. Yes, that leaves us weak on the front line, but use our DPE to get a PF or C.
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6955606
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
I am NOT sure that I would do this, but this works on realgm's trade checker.
Thoughts?
Smitty77
I think your deal has merit. Suns appear ready to move Bledsoe at a discount and our package seems reasonable given that Smart doesn't seem to be able to shoot when the real games are played. Morris and Yabu are nothing but filler from my POV.
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Would salary matching even matter since we are entitled to that disabled player exception now?
Obviously next season is another story once Gordon is back.
I agree with others, he doesn't fit, but am still curious how it affects our cap taking into account the DPE.
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Would salary matching even matter since we are entitled to that disabled player exception now?
Obviously next season is another story once Gordon is back.
I agree with others, he doesn't fit, but am still curious how it affects our cap taking into account the DPE.
Disabled player exception can only be used to trade for a player on the final year of their contract. Does not apply.
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Would salary matching even matter since we are entitled to that disabled player exception now?
Obviously next season is another story once Gordon is back.
I agree with others, he doesn't fit, but am still curious how it affects our cap taking into account the DPE.
Disabled player exception can only be used to trade for a player on the final year of their contract. Does not apply.
Got it, thanks. TP