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Celtics Basketball => Celtics Talk => Topic started by: FatjohnReturns on November 14, 2008, 10:39:07 PM
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When Ray is on fire like that, you gotta let him go a little extra. He sat him too early and he cooled off. I would have had him playing at least the first 4 minutes of the second quater cause he couldnt miss. Doc is too slow to make adjustments.
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Yeah, Ray should have stayed in the game that was a poor judgement call from Doc. But whatever, that's not the reason we lost the game. We lost because we took things for granted and the Thuggets wanted it more. Simple as that.
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we need a backup pg
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No way this one is on Doc or the back-up pg House. There was no fire, defense, or discipline in this game. That is on the players. Our bench was terribly exposed, as well. It is only one game, but this was bad.
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Ray scored 18 points in the first quater. Thats a pace for 72 points in that game. I am not saying he was gonna score seventy two. You gotta let him play and you gotta get him the ball. Once he cooled our offense was terrible. Doc should have been calling plays for Ray the rest of the game after that start.
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so your point is doc should have played ray allen every minute of the first half, and then all of the second.
seems reasonable. ::)
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Ray played 15+ straight minutes to start the game. I think he was there long enough.
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No more four man bench lineups, please.
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Ray played 15+ straight minutes to start the game. I think he was there long enough.
Ah no he didn't, there are only 12 minute quaters and he went out to start the 2nd quater.
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we need a backup pg
We do. His name is Gabe Pruitt and he played for about 45 seconds tonight.
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we need a backup pg
we have a potential one named gabe puritt, but he doesn't get to play, so im not sure if he's part of the solution. :-\
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Clearly you weren't watching the game then. Pierce left the game to start the 2nd, not Ray. Ray left at the 9:30 or so mark.
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Ray played 15+ straight minutes to start the game. I think he was there long enough.
Ah no he didn't, there are only 12 minute quaters and he went out to start the 2nd quater.
ray allen- 42 minutes. and as bud (tp) said, he didn't leave at the start of the second.
So your plan was to in fact play him 48 minutes. again, not real reasonable.
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Well he didnt get the ball. Whats your point?? He scored 18 points in the first quater and how many shot attempts in the 2nd before he went out?? They went away from him and the offense sputtered until House went off in the third. If someones hot like that you like to get him some touches insteand we get Powe going vs Martin in the post and Baby shooting 15 foot jumpers.
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Well he didnt get the ball. Whats your point?? He scored 18 points in the first quater and how many shot attempts in the 2nd before he went out?? They went away from him and the offense sputtered until House went off in the third. If someones hot like that you like to get him some touches insteand we get Powe going vs Martin in the post and Baby shooting 15 foot jumpers.
and its doc's fault ray didn't shoot? he had plenty of contested looks he passed on, if you wanted him to shoot those.
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Well he didnt get the ball. Whats your point?? He scored 18 points in the first quater and how many shot attempts in the 2nd before he went out?? They went away from him and the offense sputtered until House went off in the third. If someones hot like that you like to get him some touches insteand we get Powe going vs Martin in the post and Baby shooting 15 foot jumpers.
and its doc's fault ray didn't shoot? he had plenty of contested looks he passed on, if you wanted him to shoot those.
Of course it Docs fault that Ray didnt shoot more. He is the coach lol. You gotta run like 3 or 4 touches right at the start of the 2nd. He might have gone off for 50 and a win for the Celtics.
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Well he didnt get the ball. Whats your point?? He scored 18 points in the first quater and how many shot attempts in the 2nd before he went out?? They went away from him and the offense sputtered until House went off in the third. If someones hot like that you like to get him some touches insteand we get Powe going vs Martin in the post and Baby shooting 15 foot jumpers.
and its doc's fault ray didn't shoot? he had plenty of contested looks he passed on, if you wanted him to shoot those.
Of course it Docs fault that Ray didnt shoot more. He is the coach lol. You gotta run like 3 or 4 touches right at the start of the 2nd. He might have gone off for 50 and a win for the Celtics.
do you honestly think that doc tells them who should shoot on a play by play basis?
The Pg calls the plays most of the time, and most plays have 3-4 options based on who's open.
this isn't a video game, doc doesnt hit the x button once ray has the ball and he shoots.
also, so far you've bashed doc for taking him out, which didn't happen, and for "making him not shoot" which im quite sure didn't happen.
Isn't it more likely (and what actually happened) that the nuggets were tired of getting killed by ray allen, switched billups, thier best defensive player onto him in the second quarter and beyond, and denied him the ball forcing others to carry the offensive load(which they didn't do well)?
but, i mean, facts are crazy sometimes.
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Well he didnt get the ball. Whats your point?? He scored 18 points in the first quater and how many shot attempts in the 2nd before he went out?? They went away from him and the offense sputtered until House went off in the third. If someones hot like that you like to get him some touches insteand we get Powe going vs Martin in the post and Baby shooting 15 foot jumpers.
and its doc's fault ray didn't shoot? he had plenty of contested looks he passed on, if you wanted him to shoot those.
Of course it Docs fault that Ray didnt shoot more. He is the coach lol. You gotta run like 3 or 4 touches right at the start of the 2nd. He might have gone off for 50 and a win for the Celtics.
do you honestly think that doc tells them who should shoot on a play by play basis?
The Pg calls the plays most of the time, and most plays have 3-4 options based on who's open.
this isn't a video game.
HaHa no kidding. Sure you call plays if you see the game slipping away. That what coaches do. Someone is hot you get them ball its a pretty simple. They couldnt stop him in the first. Obvioulsy not every time, but maybe 2 sets for ray in a row then Kg in the post. you get the idea.
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Well he didnt get the ball. Whats your point?? He scored 18 points in the first quater and how many shot attempts in the 2nd before he went out?? They went away from him and the offense sputtered until House went off in the third. If someones hot like that you like to get him some touches insteand we get Powe going vs Martin in the post and Baby shooting 15 foot jumpers.
Defenses adjust. Just give up on the point. Horrible thread.
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hey on the bright side, the fakers lost and were not the only favored team to lose today ;D