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Title: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 25, 2017, 12:20:21 AM
why watch the Pelicans?

According to Mannix, other execs believe Boston makes serious run for Davis if Pelicans have bad season:
https://sports.yahoo.com/lonzo-ball-may-part-best-rookie-point-guard-class-ever-171849422.html

"In addition, rival executives expect Boston to be keeping close tabs on New Orleans, which is entering a critical season. The Pelicans are committed to seeing if an Anthony Davis-DeMarcus Cousins frontcourt can work, but if the season goes awry, it’s widely believed the Celtics will make a strong run at Davis, who is under contract through 2020.

Ideally we want the Pelicans to miss of the playoffs.

(https://i1.wp.com/www.sportsrageous.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/anthony-davis.jpg)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 NO Pelicans Season watch Thread
Post by: SparzWizard on July 25, 2017, 01:01:41 AM
why watch the Pelicans?

According to Mannix, other execs believe Boston makes serious run for Davis if Pelicans have bad season:
https://sports.yahoo.com/lonzo-ball-may-part-best-rookie-point-guard-class-ever-171849422.html

"In addition, rival executives expect Boston to be keeping close tabs on New Orleans, which is entering a critical season. The Pelicans are committed to seeing if an Anthony Davis-DeMarcus Cousins frontcourt can work, but if the season goes awry, it’s widely believed the Celtics will make a strong run at Davis, who is under contract through 2020.

Ideally we want the Pelicans to miss of the playoffs.

(https://i1.wp.com/www.sportsrageous.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/anthony-davis.jpg)

In the tough west, it's possible they could miss playoffs. But they're already tough with four All-star players in Rajon Rondo, Jrue Holiday, DeMarcus Cousins, and Anthony Davis.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 NO Pelicans Season watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on July 25, 2017, 01:08:52 AM
Come on OP, just title this thread what it should be.

"Anthony Davis Watch Thread"  :laugh:

I think our only real chance of getting him is if Davis is frustrated and wants out. NOP front office won't deal him and if the Cousins-Rondo-AD experiment doesn't work, they'll keep AD, let the others go and try again.

Frankly I think we have a slightly better chance at Porzingis than AD to be honest, although yeah, they both are long shots as it is.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 NO Pelicans Season watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on July 26, 2017, 12:44:46 AM
Come on OP, just title this thread what it should be.

"Anthony Davis Watch Thread"  :laugh:

I think our only real chance of getting him is if Davis is frustrated and wants out. NOP front office won't deal him and if the Cousins-Rondo-AD experiment doesn't work, they'll keep AD, let the others go and try again.

Frankly I think we have a slightly better chance at Porzingis than AD to be honest, although yeah, they both are long shots as it is.
tp

Changed due to popular demand haha

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20157251/anthony-davis-says-new-orleans-pelicans-tired-losing-tools-win

Anthony Davis officially "tired of losing"
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 15, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/08/boston_celtics_trade_rumors_20_261.html

Quote
As much as he tries to tune out trade whispers during the offseason, New Orleans Pelicans forward Anthony Davis admitted Tuesday that it's been difficult to shake off the narrative of a potential deal to the Boston Celtics.

Speaking with reporters Tuesday following his offseason basketball camp, Davis acknowledged that even his camp participants couldn't resist from asking him about his rumored departure.

"I get asked all types of random stuff," Davis told NOLA.com's William Guillory. "The craziest (question) was if I was going to Boston."

Of course, the likelihood of Davis packing his bags and leaving New Orleans is slim, to say the least.

Davis, 24, is under contract for the next four years and is expected to form a deadly frontcourt with fellow All-Star DeMarcus Cousins. Even if Pelicans management decided to part ways with Davis, it would take a monster haul to acquire the four-time All-Star.


And yet, even with all of the signs pointing to Davis staying in New Orleans, the talented forward admitted that he spoke with his agent Thaddeus Foucher and Pelicans GM Dell Demps to ease his fears about a rumored deal to Boston.

"I understand it's a business, but if I don't hear anything from Dell or my agent, I don't pay attention to it," Davis said of the Celtics' rumors. "Once I first heard (the rumors), then I heard it again, then I heard it again, I just wanted to make sure. I found out it wasn't (true), and that was the beginning of the summer, so I haven't paid attention to it since."

Davis, who averaged 28 points and 11.8 rebounds last season, will look to help snap the Pelicans' two-year postseason drought this year. Even with the addition of Cousins, New Orleans was on the outside looking in at the Western Conference last season -- finishing with a record of 34-48.

You have to admit, that is kind of funny.  :laugh:

Really hoping Pelicans come out and suck and Davis gets frustrated (REAL frustrated).
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenEnvy on August 15, 2017, 06:36:22 PM
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/08/boston_celtics_trade_rumors_20_261.html

Quote
As much as he tries to tune out trade whispers during the offseason, New Orleans Pelicans forward Anthony Davis admitted Tuesday that it's been difficult to shake off the narrative of a potential deal to the Boston Celtics.

Speaking with reporters Tuesday following his offseason basketball camp, Davis acknowledged that even his camp participants couldn't resist from asking him about his rumored departure.

"I get asked all types of random stuff," Davis told NOLA.com's William Guillory. "The craziest (question) was if I was going to Boston."

Of course, the likelihood of Davis packing his bags and leaving New Orleans is slim, to say the least.

Davis, 24, is under contract for the next four years and is expected to form a deadly frontcourt with fellow All-Star DeMarcus Cousins. Even if Pelicans management decided to part ways with Davis, it would take a monster haul to acquire the four-time All-Star.


And yet, even with all of the signs pointing to Davis staying in New Orleans, the talented forward admitted that he spoke with his agent Thaddeus Foucher and Pelicans GM Dell Demps to ease his fears about a rumored deal to Boston.

"I understand it's a business, but if I don't hear anything from Dell or my agent, I don't pay attention to it," Davis said of the Celtics' rumors. "Once I first heard (the rumors), then I heard it again, then I heard it again, I just wanted to make sure. I found out it wasn't (true), and that was the beginning of the summer, so I haven't paid attention to it since."

Davis, who averaged 28 points and 11.8 rebounds last season, will look to help snap the Pelicans' two-year postseason drought this year. Even with the addition of Cousins, New Orleans was on the outside looking in at the Western Conference last season -- finishing with a record of 34-48.

You have to admit, that is kind of funny.  :laugh:

Really hoping Pelicans come out and suck and Davis gets frustrated (REAL frustrated).

Their schedule is one of the more difficult ones, I don't really expect them to be in the playoff hunt, maybe fight for the 8th seed only to get embarrassed in 4/5 games. Their two best players are big and the elite teams is going small, successfully.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 17, 2017, 05:40:30 PM
http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2017/08/boston_celtics_trade_rumors_20_261.html

Quote
As much as he tries to tune out trade whispers during the offseason, New Orleans Pelicans forward Anthony Davis admitted Tuesday that it's been difficult to shake off the narrative of a potential deal to the Boston Celtics.

Speaking with reporters Tuesday following his offseason basketball camp, Davis acknowledged that even his camp participants couldn't resist from asking him about his rumored departure.

"I get asked all types of random stuff," Davis told NOLA.com's William Guillory. "The craziest (question) was if I was going to Boston."

Of course, the likelihood of Davis packing his bags and leaving New Orleans is slim, to say the least.

Davis, 24, is under contract for the next four years and is expected to form a deadly frontcourt with fellow All-Star DeMarcus Cousins. Even if Pelicans management decided to part ways with Davis, it would take a monster haul to acquire the four-time All-Star.


And yet, even with all of the signs pointing to Davis staying in New Orleans, the talented forward admitted that he spoke with his agent Thaddeus Foucher and Pelicans GM Dell Demps to ease his fears about a rumored deal to Boston.

"I understand it's a business, but if I don't hear anything from Dell or my agent, I don't pay attention to it," Davis said of the Celtics' rumors. "Once I first heard (the rumors), then I heard it again, then I heard it again, I just wanted to make sure. I found out it wasn't (true), and that was the beginning of the summer, so I haven't paid attention to it since."

Davis, who averaged 28 points and 11.8 rebounds last season, will look to help snap the Pelicans' two-year postseason drought this year. Even with the addition of Cousins, New Orleans was on the outside looking in at the Western Conference last season -- finishing with a record of 34-48.

You have to admit, that is kind of funny.  :laugh:

Really hoping Pelicans come out and suck and Davis gets frustrated (REAL frustrated).

Their schedule is one of the more difficult ones, I don't really expect them to be in the playoff hunt, maybe fight for the 8th seed only to get embarrassed in 4/5 games. Their two best players are big and the elite teams is going small, successfully.

Yeah although if Cousins and AD are both red hot, they could give GSW a bit of trouble since I really don't think Zaza and McGee are the answers for them in that matchup LOL.

But yeah the rest of the lineup would cream New Orleans.

Fingers crossed lol.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 22, 2017, 10:32:43 PM
Well Anthony Davis hype thread. It was fun while it lasted!

Unfortunately even if the C's wanted to try I don't think they have enough to offer for AD in a trade.

Even a package centered around Brown/Tatum + Lakers Pick wouldn't work or be considered.

This is where losing that Nets Pick also HURTS.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: BringToughnessBack on August 22, 2017, 10:35:41 PM
Well Anthony Davis hype thread. It was fun while it lasted!

Unfortunately even if the C's wanted to try I don't think they have enough to offer for AD in a trade.

Even a package centered around Brown/Tatum + Lakers Pick wouldn't work or be considered.

This is where losing that Nets Pick also HURTS.

Simply add Kyrie to that a few months from now and it works in trade machine. Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 22, 2017, 10:38:58 PM
Well Anthony Davis hype thread. It was fun while it lasted!

Unfortunately even if the C's wanted to try I don't think they have enough to offer for AD in a trade.

Even a package centered around Brown/Tatum + Lakers Pick wouldn't work or be considered.

This is where losing that Nets Pick also HURTS.

Simply add Kyrie to that a few months from now and it works in trade machine. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

Why would they trade all that for Irving and then trade even more assets all for AD??

And then who is our starting PG and facilitator? Smart? Teddy Freakin' Rozier? LOL.

But yeah at this point who knows, it may just happen LOL.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Smokeeye123 on August 22, 2017, 10:46:27 PM
If the Lakers pick conveys and we get say the #2 pick, why wouldnt a trade focused around Tatum/#2/Brown work?...What team could beat that?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 22, 2017, 11:05:17 PM
If the Lakers pick conveys and we get say the #2 pick, why wouldnt a trade focused around Tatum/#2/Brown work?...What team could beat that?

Idk but how does our team look then?

That team would lack depth and not have a strong bench if they made a trade centered around that.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Smokeeye123 on August 22, 2017, 11:14:30 PM
If the Lakers pick conveys and we get say the #2 pick, why wouldnt a trade focused around Tatum/#2/Brown work?...What team could beat that?

Idk but how does our team look then?

That team would lack depth and not have a strong bench if they made a trade centered around that.

Hayward/Davis/Irving/Smart/Rozier/Yabusele + ring chasing vets

Would be better than

Hayward/Horford/Irving/Brown/Tatum/Yabusele/Rozier


(I include Horford moving because his contract would need to be moved for this to even be possible...Basically wont happen but still)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 25, 2017, 02:00:54 PM
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/08/25/anthony-davis-celtics-rumors-trade-pelicans-kyrie-irving-lebron-james

Sports Illustrated wonders if Anthony Davis is the ultimate 'end game' here for Ainge.

Basically they think Anthony Davis could pull a Kyrie, telling NOP he wants out next summer and then Pelicans having to try and trade for him. This is assuming NOP have another losing season and AD-Cousins experiment doesn't go too well. The added bonus for us is, LOTS of players LOVE Irving and consider him "the real deal". Having Irving here definitely puts us on the map even more and is another lure in a sense, along with coach Stevens, Ainge and the growing youth.

Of course, the Pelicans choose where AD can get traded to, and frankly it will be tough because now BOS doesn't have that many assets to use and I'm sure other teams will try super hard for AD if the price drops a bit.

But Pelicans FO also could see some of the stars like George and Butler go for essentially peanuts and think they should deal AD for legitimate value if he truly wants out (because after this year, he has 2 years left on his deal - with 3rd year Player Option).
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsQuestFor18 on August 25, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/08/25/anthony-davis-celtics-rumors-trade-pelicans-kyrie-irving-lebron-james

Sports Illustrated wonders if Anthony Davis is the ultimate 'end game' here for Ainge.

Basically they think Anthony Davis could pull a Kyrie, telling NOP he wants out next summer and then Pelicans having to try and trade for him. This is assuming NOP have another losing season and AD-Cousins experiment doesn't go too well. The added bonus for us is, LOTS of players LOVE Irving and consider him "the real deal". Having Irving here definitely puts us on the map even more and is another lure in a sense, along with coach Stevens, Ainge and the growing youth.

Of course, the Pelicans choose where AD can get traded to, and frankly it will be tough because now BOS doesn't have that many assets to use and I'm sure other teams will try super hard for AD if the price drops a bit.

But Pelicans FO also could see some of the stars like George and Butler go for essentially peanuts and think they should deal AD for legitimate value if he truly wants out (because after this year, he has 2 years left on his deal - with 3rd year Player Option).

Unfortunately, matching salary will be real tough in any of these negotiations.

You'd either have to trade Horford in the package or find a 3rd team to get involved in the deal to help out in that regard.

But I do think next summer could be another one with fireworks here if AD is on the block. This could be Ainge's "end game" for real!

Have to hope the Pelicans suck and AD gets frustrated.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 25, 2017, 07:02:26 PM
https://www.si.com/nba/2017/08/25/anthony-davis-celtics-rumors-trade-pelicans-kyrie-irving-lebron-james

Sports Illustrated wonders if Anthony Davis is the ultimate 'end game' here for Ainge.

Basically they think Anthony Davis could pull a Kyrie, telling NOP he wants out next summer and then Pelicans having to try and trade for him. This is assuming NOP have another losing season and AD-Cousins experiment doesn't go too well. The added bonus for us is, LOTS of players LOVE Irving and consider him "the real deal". Having Irving here definitely puts us on the map even more and is another lure in a sense, along with coach Stevens, Ainge and the growing youth.

Of course, the Pelicans choose where AD can get traded to, and frankly it will be tough because now BOS doesn't have that many assets to use and I'm sure other teams will try super hard for AD if the price drops a bit.

But Pelicans FO also could see some of the stars like George and Butler go for essentially peanuts and think they should deal AD for legitimate value if he truly wants out (because after this year, he has 2 years left on his deal - with 3rd year Player Option).

Unfortunately, matching salary will be real tough in any of these negotiations.

You'd either have to trade Horford in the package or find a 3rd team to get involved in the deal to help out in that regard.

But I do think next summer could be another one with fireworks here if AD is on the block. This could be Ainge's "end game" for real!

Have to hope the Pelicans suck and AD gets frustrated.

On THE JUMP (ESPN), one of their guys said they wouldn't be surprised if ALL SEASON you hear chatter about Davis being on the block and the Celtics being rumored in those discussions. Another bad season for NOP and with 2 years remaining on his deal by next summer (3rd year PLAYER OPTION), this could be Trader Danny's end game.

Of course though, it will be tough to do without much in terms of matching salary unless Horford is included in the deal.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on August 27, 2017, 07:39:26 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20476861/solomon-hill-new-orleans-pelicans-undergoes-hamstring-surgery

New Orleans Pelicans forward Solomon Hill underwent surgery to repair a torn left hamstring and will miss six to eight months, the team announced Sunday.

The Pelicans said Hill suffered a proximal hamstring tear while working out in Los Angeles and that the surgery was successful.

Hill's loss will be difficult for the Pelicans, who have little depth at small forward.

New Orleans was already under significant pressure to make the playoffs with a starting five that includes Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Jrue Holiday.

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on August 27, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20476861/solomon-hill-new-orleans-pelicans-undergoes-hamstring-surgery

New Orleans Pelicans forward Solomon Hill underwent surgery to repair a torn left hamstring and will miss six to eight months, the team announced Sunday.

The Pelicans said Hill suffered a proximal hamstring tear while working out in Los Angeles and that the surgery was successful.

Hill's loss will be difficult for the Pelicans, who have little depth at small forward.

New Orleans was already under significant pressure to make the playoffs with a starting five that includes Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Jrue Holiday.

(http://m.quickmeme.com/img/ba/baa55df03342db29aea486974e8f6c3cb7322e6b859863a2f3e29388450e85a8.jpg)

(NOT the injury, hoping Hill has a speedy recovery. BUT the part about Pelicans playoff chances taking a hit aka Anthony Davis watch!)

That being said I'm backing away a bit from this dream, because I don't want to trade away our first marquee FA signing in franchise history, but then to match salaries in a trade we'd have to gut our team (Tatum, Smart, Brown, Rozier, ETC.)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on August 27, 2017, 09:39:53 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20476861/solomon-hill-new-orleans-pelicans-undergoes-hamstring-surgery

New Orleans Pelicans forward Solomon Hill underwent surgery to repair a torn left hamstring and will miss six to eight months, the team announced Sunday.

The Pelicans said Hill suffered a proximal hamstring tear while working out in Los Angeles and that the surgery was successful.

Hill's loss will be difficult for the Pelicans, who have little depth at small forward.

New Orleans was already under significant pressure to make the playoffs with a starting five that includes Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Jrue Holiday.

(http://m.quickmeme.com/img/ba/baa55df03342db29aea486974e8f6c3cb7322e6b859863a2f3e29388450e85a8.jpg)

(NOT the injury, hoping Hill has a speedy recovery. BUT the part about Pelicans playoff chances taking a hit aka Anthony Davis watch!)

That being said I'm backing away a bit from this dream, because I don't want to trade away our first marquee FA signing in franchise history, but then to match salaries in a trade we'd have to gut our team (Tatum, Smart, Brown, Rozier, ETC.)
everything is going according to emperor ainges plans
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on September 25, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
Anthony Davis Says Pelicans Have "Most Talented Roster" He's Ever Played With

http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2017/09/anthony_davis_says_current_pel.html

Quote
It's been a constant struggle for the New Orleans Pelicans to find the right pieces to put around Anthony Davis after drafting him with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft.

A bevy of injuries and a few misguided roster moves has led to New Orleans only reaching the postseason once in Davis' first five years with the franchise, but things appear to be turning around.

At Monday's media day, the four-time All-Star said he was excited about the talent the Pelicans have been able to assemble on this year's roster and he said it's probably the most he's played with since entering the league.

"I think right now if you look at our roster, all of our guys could easily be in our rotation," Davis said. "I think this is probably the most talented roster we've had. But that's only on paper, we've got to go out and prove it."

Davis averaged 28 points, 11.8 rebounds and 2.2 blocks while shooting 50.5 percent from the field in 2016-17, but things drastically changed for him after the team acquired fellow All-Star big man DeMarcus Cousins in a blockbuster trade in February.

Cousins' addition provided Davis with a superstar teammate that helped the Pelicans keep up with some of the super teams that have dominated the Western Conference in recent years.

It took Cousins and Davis some time to build chemistry as teammates, but the duo spent much of the summer working out together to get a better feel for each other on the court.

"I think the biggest thing for me is trying to figure out how me and DeMarcus can make this thing work," Davis said. "Coming into it last year, it was kind of tough, and I think it was a lot of pressure on (Pelicans guard Jrue Holiday) too because he's trying to figure out getting me and DeMarcus the ball while still trying to be Jrue."

Even with the team's added experience, Davis said he wants to become more of a leader for the Pelicans this year so he can take the next step in his overall development.

"I think that's the next step: trying to lead this team physically, mentally and emotionally," Davis said. "I never really had to say much (as a leader)...but that's the next step for me."

Davis also acknowledged that the team does have a sense of urgency going into 2017-18 because of the potential for massive changes around the franchise if it doesn't reach the playoffs this year.

Cousins, Rondo, Clark and Allen will all have the opportunity to re-enter free agency next summer and Davis said the entire team understands how important it'll be for them to make things work quickly once the season starts.

"We've got one year basically to figure it out," Davis said. "DeMarcus came to me this summer and said he has to win...He's never been to the playoffs, he just wants to go to the playoffs. He's buying in, he's doing things he usually doesn't do in the summer time.

"He's all in with us and we're just trying to win for him, honestly. If we win for him, I think it can lead to some great things."

Pray he's wrong and the Pelicans implode (but are slightly better than Lakers). As the last part says (in bolded), they have a sense of urgency as another playoff failure + Cousins-AD not gelling could mean massive changes around the franchise (Cousins walks, AD on the trade block?).  :o

I just hope the Lakers Pick conveys and we have options going into next summer which could include trading for Davis OR Porzingis. But if LAL pick doesn't convey OR Pelicans make the playoffs, then GG for us.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on September 25, 2017, 11:06:54 PM
With the west more loaded now with new look thunder and wolves as well as other teams. Its gonna be real tough making the playoffs for the pelicans


1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Spurs
4. Thunder
5. Grizzlies
6. Clippers
7. Wolves
8. Blazers
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: tazzmaniac on September 26, 2017, 07:02:40 AM
With the west more loaded now with new look thunder and wolves as well as other teams. Its gonna be real tough making the playoffs for the pelicans


1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Spurs
4. Thunder
5. Grizzlies
6. Clippers
7. Wolves
8. Blazers
Clips, Grizz and Blazers aren't particularly imposing.  If NOP clicks, they should be better than all 3 of them.  The Wolves should be good but they've got a habit of underperforming. 
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on September 26, 2017, 10:40:56 AM
With the west more loaded now with new look thunder and wolves as well as other teams. Its gonna be real tough making the playoffs for the pelicans


1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Spurs
4. Thunder
5. Grizzlies
6. Clippers
7. Wolves
8. Blazers
Clips, Grizz and Blazers aren't particularly imposing.  If NOP clicks, they should be better than all 3 of them.  The Wolves should be good but they've got a habit of underperforming.

I think the additions of Butler and saavy veterans in Crawford and Gibson will help the Wolves a lot though. Really can't see them missing the playoffs, and think they are probably a 5-6 seed.

Have to hope NOP doesn't click lol.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: wdleehi on September 26, 2017, 10:44:38 AM
Anthony Davis Says Pelicans Have "Most Talented Roster" He's Ever Played With

http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2017/09/anthony_davis_says_current_pel.html

Quote
It's been a constant struggle for the New Orleans Pelicans to find the right pieces to put around Anthony Davis after drafting him with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft.

A bevy of injuries and a few misguided roster moves has led to New Orleans only reaching the postseason once in Davis' first five years with the franchise, but things appear to be turning around.

At Monday's media day, the four-time All-Star said he was excited about the talent the Pelicans have been able to assemble on this year's roster and he said it's probably the most he's played with since entering the league.

"I think right now if you look at our roster, all of our guys could easily be in our rotation," Davis said. "I think this is probably the most talented roster we've had. But that's only on paper, we've got to go out and prove it."

Davis averaged 28 points, 11.8 rebounds and 2.2 blocks while shooting 50.5 percent from the field in 2016-17, but things drastically changed for him after the team acquired fellow All-Star big man DeMarcus Cousins in a blockbuster trade in February.

Cousins' addition provided Davis with a superstar teammate that helped the Pelicans keep up with some of the super teams that have dominated the Western Conference in recent years.

It took Cousins and Davis some time to build chemistry as teammates, but the duo spent much of the summer working out together to get a better feel for each other on the court.

"I think the biggest thing for me is trying to figure out how me and DeMarcus can make this thing work," Davis said. "Coming into it last year, it was kind of tough, and I think it was a lot of pressure on (Pelicans guard Jrue Holiday) too because he's trying to figure out getting me and DeMarcus the ball while still trying to be Jrue."

Even with the team's added experience, Davis said he wants to become more of a leader for the Pelicans this year so he can take the next step in his overall development.

"I think that's the next step: trying to lead this team physically, mentally and emotionally," Davis said. "I never really had to say much (as a leader)...but that's the next step for me."

Davis also acknowledged that the team does have a sense of urgency going into 2017-18 because of the potential for massive changes around the franchise if it doesn't reach the playoffs this year.

Cousins, Rondo, Clark and Allen will all have the opportunity to re-enter free agency next summer and Davis said the entire team understands how important it'll be for them to make things work quickly once the season starts.

"We've got one year basically to figure it out," Davis said. "DeMarcus came to me this summer and said he has to win...He's never been to the playoffs, he just wants to go to the playoffs. He's buying in, he's doing things he usually doesn't do in the summer time.

"He's all in with us and we're just trying to win for him, honestly. If we win for him, I think it can lead to some great things."

Pray he's wrong and the Pelicans implode (but are slightly better than Lakers). As the last part says (in bolded), they have a sense of urgency as another playoff failure + Cousins-AD not gelling could mean massive changes around the franchise (Cousins walks, AD on the trade block?).  :o

I just hope the Lakers Pick conveys and we have options going into next summer which could include trading for Davis OR Porzingis. But if LAL pick doesn't convey OR Pelicans make the playoffs, then GG for us.


Considering his history in the NBA, not really that hard to say this is true.


The biggest hope is that the fit never works and that the lockerroom knucklehead drives Davis to want out of the team no matter what the team does.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on September 26, 2017, 10:50:35 AM
Anthony Davis Says Pelicans Have "Most Talented Roster" He's Ever Played With

http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2017/09/anthony_davis_says_current_pel.html

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It's been a constant struggle for the New Orleans Pelicans to find the right pieces to put around Anthony Davis after drafting him with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2012 NBA Draft.

A bevy of injuries and a few misguided roster moves has led to New Orleans only reaching the postseason once in Davis' first five years with the franchise, but things appear to be turning around.

At Monday's media day, the four-time All-Star said he was excited about the talent the Pelicans have been able to assemble on this year's roster and he said it's probably the most he's played with since entering the league.

"I think right now if you look at our roster, all of our guys could easily be in our rotation," Davis said. "I think this is probably the most talented roster we've had. But that's only on paper, we've got to go out and prove it."

Davis averaged 28 points, 11.8 rebounds and 2.2 blocks while shooting 50.5 percent from the field in 2016-17, but things drastically changed for him after the team acquired fellow All-Star big man DeMarcus Cousins in a blockbuster trade in February.

Cousins' addition provided Davis with a superstar teammate that helped the Pelicans keep up with some of the super teams that have dominated the Western Conference in recent years.

It took Cousins and Davis some time to build chemistry as teammates, but the duo spent much of the summer working out together to get a better feel for each other on the court.

"I think the biggest thing for me is trying to figure out how me and DeMarcus can make this thing work," Davis said. "Coming into it last year, it was kind of tough, and I think it was a lot of pressure on (Pelicans guard Jrue Holiday) too because he's trying to figure out getting me and DeMarcus the ball while still trying to be Jrue."

Even with the team's added experience, Davis said he wants to become more of a leader for the Pelicans this year so he can take the next step in his overall development.

"I think that's the next step: trying to lead this team physically, mentally and emotionally," Davis said. "I never really had to say much (as a leader)...but that's the next step for me."

Davis also acknowledged that the team does have a sense of urgency going into 2017-18 because of the potential for massive changes around the franchise if it doesn't reach the playoffs this year.

Cousins, Rondo, Clark and Allen will all have the opportunity to re-enter free agency next summer and Davis said the entire team understands how important it'll be for them to make things work quickly once the season starts.

"We've got one year basically to figure it out," Davis said. "DeMarcus came to me this summer and said he has to win...He's never been to the playoffs, he just wants to go to the playoffs. He's buying in, he's doing things he usually doesn't do in the summer time.

"He's all in with us and we're just trying to win for him, honestly. If we win for him, I think it can lead to some great things."

Pray he's wrong and the Pelicans implode (but are slightly better than Lakers). As the last part says (in bolded), they have a sense of urgency as another playoff failure + Cousins-AD not gelling could mean massive changes around the franchise (Cousins walks, AD on the trade block?).  :o

I just hope the Lakers Pick conveys and we have options going into next summer which could include trading for Davis OR Porzingis. But if LAL pick doesn't convey OR Pelicans make the playoffs, then GG for us.


Considering his history in the NBA, not really that hard to say this is true.


The biggest hope is that the fit never works and that the lockerroom knucklehead drives Davis to want out of the team no matter what the team does.

That, and the fact that the Pelicans still don't have a great bench and no star guard.

Rondo is a great facilitator and Holiday is a solid player, but when going up against teams with legitimate star PG's/SG's, it will be real tough for them.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 07, 2017, 02:38:00 PM
Yes, it's just preseason, but so far, Pelicans are 0-2!   ;D

Davis 1st game: 24 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (33 minutes)

Davis 2nd game: 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks (17 minutes)

Also, Rondo INJURED his groin in last night's preseason game. Something to monitor...
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: SHAQATTACK on October 07, 2017, 04:01:14 PM
Yes, it's just preseason, but so far, Pelicans are 0-2!   ;D

Davis 1st game: 24 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (33 minutes)

Davis 2nd game: 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks (17 minutes)

Also, Rondo INJURED his groin in last night's preseason game. Something to monitor...


take last nights starting boston line up ......remove Horford ......insert A. Davis .....Thats what im talking about !.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Future Celtics Owner on October 07, 2017, 07:51:53 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20476861/solomon-hill-new-orleans-pelicans-undergoes-hamstring-surgery

New Orleans Pelicans forward Solomon Hill underwent surgery to repair a torn left hamstring and will miss six to eight months, the team announced Sunday.

The Pelicans said Hill suffered a proximal hamstring tear while working out in Los Angeles and that the surgery was successful.

Hill's loss will be difficult for the Pelicans, who have little depth at small forward.

New Orleans was already under significant pressure to make the playoffs with a starting five that includes Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and Jrue Holiday.
Pelicans screwed themselves with bad contracts. Omer Asik barely plays, Alexis Ajinka barely plays, and Hill is out for the season.  $28 million in tied up salaries between those 3. Asik has 3 years left like Hill and Ajinka has 2 years left.
If it does not work I could see them trying to unload 1 of those salaries (Asik is the worst one) in a deal with Cousins.
Cousins and Asik
4
Al Horford
Cousins is 4 years younger than Al averages 12 rbs a game and shoots 38% from 3.....but he has shown headcase issues and we would need to resign him this summer. If he agreed to resign with us it would make things pretty interesting. But I would HATE taking back Asik's $11million contract for three years. If we waited we could do Ajinka and Darius instead and they have this year and next year left on their deals.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on October 07, 2017, 08:18:09 PM
^ taking on the headcase cousins and fat asik contract are both negatives, not positives. Why would we take both of those???

 cousins was available and Danny with his war chest didn't offer even a 1st? What signals from the Celtics you seen where they want cousins or want to take on any bad contracts? You only take bad contracts when you're tanking not contending
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: D Dub on October 07, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
I'm off Davis.  Something missing with him.

I'd rather keep Brown and Tatum, see what happens.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: OldSchoolDude on October 07, 2017, 08:46:00 PM
I don't see us getting Davis.  Maybe there should be a  Ayton and a Bamba thread instead.  We have a good chance to get one of them with the LAL pick.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 07, 2017, 10:59:03 PM
I don't see us getting Davis.  Maybe there should be a  Ayton and a Bamba thread instead.  We have a good chance to get one of them with the LAL pick.

That's assuming Lakers Pick conveys for sure at 2-5, which is also FAR from a given.

I'm off Davis.  Something missing with him.

I'd rather keep Brown and Tatum, see what happens.

Yeah, a good coach and better teammates  ;)

Yes, it's just preseason, but so far, Pelicans are 0-2!   ;D

Davis 1st game: 24 points, 10 rebounds, 2 blocks (33 minutes)

Davis 2nd game: 14 points, 7 rebounds, 2 blocks (17 minutes)

Also, Rondo INJURED his groin in last night's preseason game. Something to monitor...


take last nights starting boston line up ......remove Horford ......insert A. Davis .....Thats what im talking about !.

Or if you can find some way to acquire Davis and keep Horford and two of Brown/Smart/Tatum... oh man  :angel:

But that's difficult and probably very unlikely.  :(

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on October 08, 2017, 11:17:13 PM
http://hoopshype.com/2017/10/08/pelicans-rajon-rondo-is-reportedly-expected-to-miss-one-month/amp/

Good news for NOLA missing the playoffs with Rondo possibility out for 1-2 months
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Androslav on October 09, 2017, 04:12:24 AM
http://hoopshype.com/2017/10/08/pelicans-rajon-rondo-is-reportedly-expected-to-miss-one-month/amp/

Good news for NOLA missing the playoffs with Rondo possibility out for 1-2 months
This injury actually improves their playoff chances. Classic addition by subtraction case here.
Now they can start E. Moore. He is a better defender, better shooter (player) and a better fit than Rondo. Also now, Holiday (their by far best PG) can play his natural position, the one he got paid 126 mils $ to play at. At least for a month or two, but it also may encourage them to stick to that plan if things go well enough.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 10, 2017, 09:48:12 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/917740783314374656?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


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Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania

New Orleans guard Rajon Rondo underwent surgery on his sports hernia injury and will miss 4-to-6 weeks, league sources tell The Vertical.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 20, 2017, 11:26:37 PM
WOW!  :o

3 quarters in the books, and Anthony Davis already has 30 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assists and a block in 30 minutes (13-18 shooting)   :o

Pelicans down 98-90 though.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 20, 2017, 11:59:55 PM
WOW!  :o

3 quarters in the books, and Anthony Davis already has 30 points, 14 rebounds, 5 assists and a block in 30 minutes (13-18 shooting)   :o

Pelicans down 98-90 though.

Pelicans lose 128-120. Davis 35 points, 16 rebounds, 5 assists (15-21 shooting).

Cousins also had 35 points and 14 rebounds.

It's only 2 games but either the Pelicans are sorely missing Rondo... or this simply won't work out for them. Supporting cast isn't great at all and Boogie seems to be the primarily ball handler on the team LOL (not a recipe for success)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on October 21, 2017, 12:25:40 AM
This happened last season. Cousins and Davis would have these stacked stats but it didn't translate to wins. Supporting cast isn’t good
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 21, 2017, 09:44:02 AM
This happened last season. Cousins and Davis would have these stacked stats but it didn't translate to wins. Supporting cast isn’t good

Also missing Rondo for some time now. But even if Rondo returned I don't think much would change unless Rondo could shoot well on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: tazzmaniac on October 21, 2017, 10:08:36 AM
Since when is losing to GSW by 8 a big deal.  It looks like Davis and Cousins are coexisting very well.  They just need to shore up their supporting cast.  Rondo should help some but they really need a decent 3&D SF.  Their big problem is lack of cap space and bad contracts.   

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on October 21, 2017, 12:25:23 PM
Since when is losing to GSW by 8 a big deal.  It looks like Davis and Cousins are coexisting very well.  They just need to shore up their supporting cast.  Rondo should help some but they really need a decent 3&D SF.  Their big problem is lack of cap space and bad contracts.   

They just seem like an inconsistent team. Played very poorly vs. MEM then played well last night.

But hope they beat the Lakers tomorrow!  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Monkhouse on October 22, 2017, 08:46:11 PM
I hope the Pelicans beat the Lakers. It would bode for our pick, but a disgruntled Davis could seriously be irked if they lost to a really bad team like the Lakers.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 01:43:05 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21451822/new-orleans-pelicans-forward-anthony-davis-suffers-concussion-denver-nuggets

Davis gets 3rd career concussion
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: jdz101 on November 18, 2017, 01:44:42 AM
Demarcus Cousins has got to be the biggest statpadding cancer I've seen in the league in a number of years.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 01:49:43 AM
Demarcus Cousins has got to be the biggest statpadding cancer I've seen in the league in a number of years.
i agree. The nuggets were scoring in the paint at will. Lol. And in the perimeter too but cousins just stood there. I’m sure he’s a very coachable guy. Haha
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: jdz101 on November 18, 2017, 01:56:27 AM
Demarcus Cousins has got to be the biggest statpadding cancer I've seen in the league in a number of years.
i agree. The nuggets were scoring in the paint at will. Lol. And in the perimeter too but cousins just stood there. I’m sure he’s a very coachable guy. Haha

1. The constant sooking and look on his face. Today was no different. It can't be fun to be his teammate.

2. Turns into the slowest man on earth when running back on defense if he doesn't get a foul call he wants. Sometimes just randomly falls over behind the baseline to accentuate how little he wants to get back.

3. The pointless foul trouble and technicals. Today was no different. Almost tried to get himself in foul trouble a second time when davis left the game.

4. The pathetic effort on defense when he knows the game is lost. Great example to set as a leader.

5. When he was on the bench after the first foul trouble, Holiday scores a bucket to cut the lead to single figures. His whole team goes up on the bench, except for cousins who just sits there sulking.

Get the Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. off my TV screen already. So glad the celtics didnt get sucked in to trading for that moron.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 02:07:01 AM
Demarcus Cousins has got to be the biggest statpadding cancer I've seen in the league in a number of years.
i agree. The nuggets were scoring in the paint at will. Lol. And in the perimeter too but cousins just stood there. I’m sure he’s a very coachable guy. Haha

1. The constant sooking and look on his face. Today was no different. It can't be fun to be his teammate.

2. Turns into the slowest man on earth when running back on defense if he doesn't get a foul call he wants. Sometimes just randomly falls over behind the baseline to accentuate how little he wants to get back.

3. The pointless foul trouble and technicals. Today was no different. Almost tried to get himself in foul trouble a second time when davis left the game.

4. The pathetic effort on defense when he knows the game is lost. Great example to set as a leader.

5. When he was on the bench after the first foul trouble, Holiday scores a bucket to cut the lead to single figures. His whole team goes up on the bench, except for cousins who just sits there sulking.

Get the **** off my TV screen already. So glad the celtics didnt get sucked in to trading for that moron.
what are your thoughts on fans on this board who always ask to trade all our assets for cousins? I think it needs to end he's overrated
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: jdz101 on November 18, 2017, 02:34:30 AM
Demarcus Cousins has got to be the biggest statpadding cancer I've seen in the league in a number of years.
i agree. The nuggets were scoring in the paint at will. Lol. And in the perimeter too but cousins just stood there. I’m sure he’s a very coachable guy. Haha

1. The constant sooking and look on his face. Today was no different. It can't be fun to be his teammate.

2. Turns into the slowest man on earth when running back on defense if he doesn't get a foul call he wants. Sometimes just randomly falls over behind the baseline to accentuate how little he wants to get back.

3. The pointless foul trouble and technicals. Today was no different. Almost tried to get himself in foul trouble a second time when davis left the game.

4. The pathetic effort on defense when he knows the game is lost. Great example to set as a leader.

5. When he was on the bench after the first foul trouble, Holiday scores a bucket to cut the lead to single figures. His whole team goes up on the bench, except for cousins who just sits there sulking.

Get the **** off my TV screen already. So glad the celtics didnt get sucked in to trading for that moron.
what are your thoughts on fans on this board who always ask to trade all our assets for cousins? I think it needs to end he's overrated

My opinion hasnt changed on Cousins for years.

I don't think New Orleans got the bargain that everyone thought they did and they should trade him now for whatever the best package is that they can get.

I dont see the point of allocating so much of the basketball and running so much offense through a center that is shooting well below average for his position, and doesn't get the ball moving. Everyone froths over the massive statlines and getting the guy to do half the work but having him doing it isn't actually good for the team's efficiency.

When he and Davis aren't there to run everything, of course the rest of the team is going to be a disaster. They never get a chance to get many touches of the basketball. This leaves cousins with amazing on/off splits because whenever he and Davis are out of the game, there is no system.

In terms of Davis vs Cousins, its not even a contest for who is the better piece, and I dont believe they have a good shot of working together at all.

New Orleans are 8-7 and their wins have come against powerhouses like Atlanta, Indiana, Chicago, Dallas, Sacramento, and the Lakers. When their schedule actually gets a little hard, wait for demarcus and co to melt like he always does.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenEnvy on November 18, 2017, 04:12:01 AM
Demarcus Cousins has got to be the biggest statpadding cancer I've seen in the league in a number of years.
i agree. The nuggets were scoring in the paint at will. Lol. And in the perimeter too but cousins just stood there. I’m sure he’s a very coachable guy. Haha

1. The constant sooking and look on his face. Today was no different. It can't be fun to be his teammate.

2. Turns into the slowest man on earth when running back on defense if he doesn't get a foul call he wants. Sometimes just randomly falls over behind the baseline to accentuate how little he wants to get back.

3. The pointless foul trouble and technicals. Today was no different. Almost tried to get himself in foul trouble a second time when davis left the game.

4. The pathetic effort on defense when he knows the game is lost. Great example to set as a leader.

5. When he was on the bench after the first foul trouble, Holiday scores a bucket to cut the lead to single figures. His whole team goes up on the bench, except for cousins who just sits there sulking.

Get the **** off my TV screen already. So glad the celtics didnt get sucked in to trading for that moron.
what are your thoughts on fans on this board who always ask to trade all our assets for cousins? I think it needs to end he's overrated

My opinion hasnt changed on Cousins for years.

I don't think New Orleans got the bargain that everyone thought they did and they should trade him now for whatever the best package is that they can get.

I dont see the point of allocating so much of the basketball and running so much offense through a center that is shooting well below average for his position, and doesn't get the ball moving. Everyone froths over the massive statlines and getting the guy to do half the work but having him doing it isn't actually good for the team's efficiency.

When he and Davis aren't there to run everything, of course the rest of the team is going to be a disaster. They never get a chance to get many touches of the basketball. This leaves cousins with amazing on/off splits because whenever he and Davis are out of the game, there is no system.

In terms of Davis vs Cousins, its not even a contest for who is the better piece, and I dont believe they have a good shot of working together at all.

New Orleans are 8-7 and their wins have come against powerhouses like Atlanta, Indiana, Chicago, Dallas, Sacramento, and the Lakers. When their schedule actually gets a little hard, wait for demarcus and co to melt like he always does.

I soured in DMC when he got traded. It really made me question what people in the know really knew about him. For him to get traded for what many perceived as pennies on the dollar, his value was clearly lower than us fans expected.

If the guy was such a hot commodity, teams would have been throwing big offers out there for him, including and probably especially Danny. Since he could’ve blasted the Pelicans offer out of the water, I trust he didn’t for a reason. And nothing DMC/NOP has done since the trade has changed my opinion.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Androslav on November 18, 2017, 04:48:50 AM
Do we really need to have the same conversation about DMC twice per each of the last 5 seasons?
Good thing is that Boogie is a big factor in the future "ADrama".
I hope Davis will be well. These head injuries should not be taken lightly. He has to live some healthy 50 years after his playing days.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on November 18, 2017, 11:54:20 AM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21451822/new-orleans-pelicans-forward-anthony-davis-suffers-concussion-denver-nuggets

Davis gets 3rd career concussion

Man, the guy is just injury-prone it seems.

With the way Tatum and Brown are playing, I think we should just be wise enough to trek on and just bring back a healthy Hayward next year, and HOPEFULLY another Top-5 pick.

Matching salaries or close to it will be difficult anyways with AD.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on November 18, 2017, 06:03:45 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21451822/new-orleans-pelicans-forward-anthony-davis-suffers-concussion-denver-nuggets

Davis gets 3rd career concussion

Man, the guy is just injury-prone it seems.

With the way Tatum and Brown are playing, I think we should just be wise enough to trek on and just bring back a healthy Hayward next year, and HOPEFULLY another Top-5 pick.

Matching salaries or close to it will be difficult anyways with AD.
agree
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 02, 2017, 11:30:36 AM
left last game with a groin injury
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Jiri Welsch on December 02, 2017, 11:34:07 AM
left last game with a groin injury

I wonder when people will stop dreaming of Anthony Davis being the person that puts us over the edge
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on December 02, 2017, 12:17:44 PM
left last game with a groin injury

I wonder when people will stop dreaming of Anthony Davis being the person that puts us over the edge

I originally thought it, but now I'm starting to think the guy is just way too injury-prone.

Plus, Tatum and Brown look great so far, though I'd still trade Jaylen+ for Davis if the offer was made (and keep Tatum), but yeah I wouldn't give up both in a deal.

But again, he's proving to be injury prone.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on December 05, 2017, 11:49:39 AM
But again, he's proving to be injury prone.

John Schuhmann posted AD's NBA missed games  :o

https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann/status/938074454621655042

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis/ NO Pelicans Season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on December 19, 2017, 11:13:15 PM
Nvm
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on February 20, 2018, 05:48:13 PM
Cousins' injury also put the Pelicans in a predicament when it comes to Davis' future. He is signed for three more season but has said publicly that he wants to win. And Cousins is set to become an unrestricted free agent this offseason.

Davis said that hearing former players such as Kevin Garnett express regret about not asking sooner for a trade to a more competitive franchise has made him think.

"It makes you think, 'cause you're wondering if you're following in that same path," he said. "But then again, you're like, 'This year could be the year.'


"So, just got to take it year by year and just see, and see where the team is going, what direction they want to go to and just see where their head is."
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22517944/anthony-davis-says-new-orleans-pelicans-made-nba-finals-demarcus-cousins

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TJS52KsNAjc
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 20, 2018, 06:35:08 PM
Cousins' injury also put the Pelicans in a predicament when it comes to Davis' future. He is signed for three more season but has said publicly that he wants to win. And Cousins is set to become an unrestricted free agent this offseason.

Davis said that hearing former players such as Kevin Garnett express regret about not asking sooner for a trade to a more competitive franchise has made him think.

"It makes you think, 'cause you're wondering if you're following in that same path," he said. "But then again, you're like, 'This year could be the year.'


"So, just got to take it year by year and just see, and see where the team is going, what direction they want to go to and just see where their head is."
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22517944/anthony-davis-says-new-orleans-pelicans-made-nba-finals-demarcus-cousins

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TJS52KsNAjc

His salary is a problem in creating a trade though.

Don't want to give up Horford (I've explained why in NUMEROUS Davis threads in the past), but also don't want to give up BOTH Tatum + Brown (which might have to occur for a deal to happen I believe in terms of matching salaries).

I mean, I'd LOVE Davis, but I'm being a bit realistic too.

 :(
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Birdman on February 20, 2018, 07:35:09 PM
Davis not going anywhere
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: JBcat on February 20, 2018, 08:56:40 PM
Cousins' injury also put the Pelicans in a predicament when it comes to Davis' future. He is signed for three more season but has said publicly that he wants to win. And Cousins is set to become an unrestricted free agent this offseason.

Davis said that hearing former players such as Kevin Garnett express regret about not asking sooner for a trade to a more competitive franchise has made him think.

"It makes you think, 'cause you're wondering if you're following in that same path," he said. "But then again, you're like, 'This year could be the year.'


"So, just got to take it year by year and just see, and see where the team is going, what direction they want to go to and just see where their head is."
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22517944/anthony-davis-says-new-orleans-pelicans-made-nba-finals-demarcus-cousins

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TJS52KsNAjc

His salary is a problem in creating a trade though.

Don't want to give up Horford (I've explained why in NUMEROUS Davis threads in the past), but also don't want to give up BOTH Tatum + Brown (which might have to occur for a deal to happen I believe in terms of matching salaries).

I mean, I'd LOVE Davis, but I'm being a bit realistic too.

 :(

As much as I love Horford if he is the foundation of a trade along with say the Lakers and Grizzlies pick, and we get to keep Tatum and Brown I would do it in a second.  Horford and Davis both prefer PF, and will play C in in smaller lineups. So I’m not sure they are the best fit side by side as bigs.

Of course getting Horford in return wouldn’t make much sense for the Pelicans.  He’d probably have to go to a 3rd team that would be competing, and get more picks from the 3rd team.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on February 20, 2018, 09:45:43 PM
Davis not going anywhere
so even though Davis has told the pelicans he wants to win or he’s out, you believe a cousins-less roster will make noise enough to keep him there?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: trickybilly on February 20, 2018, 11:45:39 PM
Davis not going anywhere

Such confidence..
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on February 20, 2018, 11:47:56 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TJS52KsNAjc

Last question in the video

“Is it good enough to make the playoffs?

AD: no”
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: keevsnick on February 21, 2018, 02:58:36 AM
So i want to bring this up, only because I dont think its been mentioned, but the LA/SAC pick is #1 for 2019 if it doesn't convey this year which is looking like the case. How does that effect a potential AD trade or package? I have a hard time believing you could make the SAC pick a crucial part of a trade this summer if theres a 14% chance (likelihood of it being #1 if its in the top 3) that the NOP would be getting the 76er pick instead (Likely 15-20ish). So maybe any AD trade has to wait for summer 2019 to see where that picks ends up anyway.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: trickybilly on February 21, 2018, 05:34:53 AM
So i want to bring this up, only because I dont think its been mentioned, but the LA/SAC pick is #1 for 2019 if it doesn't convey this year which is looking like the case. How does that effect a potential AD trade or package? I have a hard time believing you could make the SAC pick a crucial part of a trade this summer if theres a 14% chance (likelihood of it being #1 if its in the top 3) that the NOP would be getting the 76er pick instead (Likely 15-20ish). So maybe any AD trade has to wait for summer 2019 to see where that picks ends up anyway.

New Orleans are more aware than anyone about how waiting too long puts the other team at a significant negotiating advantage: See Divac, Vlade.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on February 21, 2018, 10:09:58 AM
Davis' salary will roughly be 25.4, meaning we would need to get to roughly 20.4 in salary to trade for him.

Morris, Rozier, and Tatum all have significant raises in their salary into the off-season. Morris will be just over 5.5 million, Rozier just over 3 million, and Tatum just over 6.7 million. A combination of Yabusele, Ojeyle, and Nader plus the above players would be enough. However, 6 for 1 trades are pretty rare and unlikely.

In the end, trading for Davis without giving up Kyrie, Hayward, or Horford would hinge on a sign-and-trade with Marcus Smart. If his contract was the MLE (8.4), then Smart, Tatum, and Morris would be enough salary to get it done (but would it be enough talent to get it done?). I can't imagine Smart being too thrilled to agree to a sign-and-trade, unless he got significantly more than the open market offered. In other words, for him to agree, he'd probably need to be around 12-15 million a year, but would the Pelicans be willing to do that? Probably not.

There is another big problem, however. Anthony Davis has an estimated 15% trade kicker. He would need to waive that in order for the Cs to trade with him.

Another possibility is, if we are able to get the Lakers pick (big IF), then we draft a player, sign him, and they trade him in combination with Morris, Tatum, Rozier, and Nader. This is what happened a few years ago with the Wiggins-Love trade.

Obviously it'd be great to get Davis, but I am perfectly content with not getting him. I think the Kyrie-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford core can win it all.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: nostar on February 21, 2018, 10:25:20 AM
I think KG would be a very good resource for Davis (and honestly everyone, KG is great). He has first hand experience languishing on small market teams with less than competent front offices. He gave similar advice to Lebron the summer that he left for Miami:

   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/garnett-to-lebron-loyalty-can-hurt/

NBA players are becoming more aware that loyalty is a tool of manipulation. There are certainly instances where teams show players they care about them, but it's far from a given.

If I were Davis I'd start hedging my way out of NO, which he might be hinting at. You don't have to go Eric Bledsoe to get it done. I think Kyrie handled his discontent in the appropriate way: informing the team and giving them some time to evaluate their options. The Cavs basically ignored him for a year, which was stupid, and forced him to be more aggressive. All indications are that he didn't burn his way out of town.

I'd be surprised if Davis is with the Pelicans through 2019/20. My guess is they miss the playoffs this year, resign Boogie in the summer, grab a low seed in 2019 and get bounced early. At that point, Davis should see the writing on the wall. He's too injury prone to wait until his 30s to make a move.

Even if it's not Boston, he can do much better than the worst market in the NBA and a bottom 5 front office.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: GreenShooter on February 21, 2018, 11:34:12 AM
I completely agree with JBcat that if Horford HAS TO be part of any Davis trade, (DA would go to Al and let him know first, I would think), and then try to trade him, as part of a 3-team deal, to a contending team. If DA trades Al, without his consent, to NOLA I'm not sure how that would affect attracting future free agents though we wouldn't need any of significance for A WHILE as long as AD, Kyrie and Hayward are on the team.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: MattyIce on February 21, 2018, 11:39:21 AM
Davis' salary will roughly be 25.4, meaning we would need to get to roughly 20.4 in salary to trade for him.

Morris, Rozier, and Tatum all have significant raises in their salary into the off-season. Morris will be just over 5.5 million, Rozier just over 3 million, and Tatum just over 6.7 million. A combination of Yabusele, Ojeyle, and Nader plus the above players would be enough. However, 6 for 1 trades are pretty rare and unlikely.

In the end, trading for Davis without giving up Kyrie, Hayward, or Horford would hinge on a sign-and-trade with Marcus Smart. If his contract was the MLE (8.4), then Smart, Tatum, and Morris would be enough salary to get it done (but would it be enough talent to get it done?). I can't imagine Smart being too thrilled to agree to a sign-and-trade, unless he got significantly more than the open market offered. In other words, for him to agree, he'd probably need to be around 12-15 million a year, but would the Pelicans be willing to do that? Probably not.

There is another big problem, however. Anthony Davis has an estimated 15% trade kicker. He would need to waive that in order for the Cs to trade with him.

Another possibility is, if we are able to get the Lakers pick (big IF), then we draft a player, sign him, and they trade him in combination with Morris, Tatum, Rozier, and Nader. This is what happened a few years ago with the Wiggins-Love trade.

Obviously it'd be great to get Davis, but I am perfectly content with not getting him. I think the Kyrie-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford core can win it all.

can't we sign monroe to 120% and then include him?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: footey on February 21, 2018, 11:46:45 AM
So i want to bring this up, only because I dont think its been mentioned, but the LA/SAC pick is #1 for 2019 if it doesn't convey this year which is looking like the case. How does that effect a potential AD trade or package? I have a hard time believing you could make the SAC pick a crucial part of a trade this summer if theres a 14% chance (likelihood of it being #1 if its in the top 3) that the NOP would be getting the 76er pick instead (Likely 15-20ish). So maybe any AD trade has to wait for summer 2019 to see where that picks ends up anyway.

Excellent point. TP.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 21, 2018, 03:00:52 PM
So what do people think happens with Cousins this FA? Does NOP keep him? Do they give him the max still (or close to it)?

If they keep Cousins then I don't think there's a chance we land him. If they do let Cousins "walk", then there may be a window to trade for AD in the next 1-2 years.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: DefenseWinsChamps on February 21, 2018, 03:17:50 PM
Davis' salary will roughly be 25.4, meaning we would need to get to roughly 20.4 in salary to trade for him.

Morris, Rozier, and Tatum all have significant raises in their salary into the off-season. Morris will be just over 5.5 million, Rozier just over 3 million, and Tatum just over 6.7 million. A combination of Yabusele, Ojeyle, and Nader plus the above players would be enough. However, 6 for 1 trades are pretty rare and unlikely.

In the end, trading for Davis without giving up Kyrie, Hayward, or Horford would hinge on a sign-and-trade with Marcus Smart. If his contract was the MLE (8.4), then Smart, Tatum, and Morris would be enough salary to get it done (but would it be enough talent to get it done?). I can't imagine Smart being too thrilled to agree to a sign-and-trade, unless he got significantly more than the open market offered. In other words, for him to agree, he'd probably need to be around 12-15 million a year, but would the Pelicans be willing to do that? Probably not.

There is another big problem, however. Anthony Davis has an estimated 15% trade kicker. He would need to waive that in order for the Cs to trade with him.

Another possibility is, if we are able to get the Lakers pick (big IF), then we draft a player, sign him, and they trade him in combination with Morris, Tatum, Rozier, and Nader. This is what happened a few years ago with the Wiggins-Love trade.

Obviously it'd be great to get Davis, but I am perfectly content with not getting him. I think the Kyrie-Brown-Hayward-Tatum-Horford core can win it all.

can't we sign monroe to 120% and then include him?

Then we are getting into the middle of December before the trade can happen.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: keevsnick on February 21, 2018, 04:59:50 PM
So i want to bring this up, only because I dont think its been mentioned, but the LA/SAC pick is #1 for 2019 if it doesn't convey this year which is looking like the case. How does that effect a potential AD trade or package? I have a hard time believing you could make the SAC pick a crucial part of a trade this summer if theres a 14% chance (likelihood of it being #1 if its in the top 3) that the NOP would be getting the 76er pick instead (Likely 15-20ish). So maybe any AD trade has to wait for summer 2019 to see where that picks ends up anyway.

New Orleans are more aware than anyone about how waiting too long puts the other team at a significant negotiating advantage: See Divac, Vlade.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: jaketwice on February 21, 2018, 05:01:03 PM
Honestly, I like Tatum so much, I have a hard time imagining a scenario where I'd be satisfied with a trade that saw him (or Jay Brown for that matter) leave town.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 23, 2018, 09:52:42 PM
Honestly, I like Tatum so much, I have a hard time imagining a scenario where I'd be satisfied with a trade that saw him (or Jay Brown for that matter) leave town.

It's hard really.

Then again, I felt that way about most of last year's team and practically the entire team got traded  :laugh:

I don't see AD getting moved for the next year, but IF the Pelicans have a mediocre year next season AND the Pelicans don't have another true star paired with Davis (maybe Cousins walks this summer?), I could see AD getting moved the summer of 2019 for assets (in which case, maybe our Kings Pick can come in handy in creating a package!)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 23, 2018, 10:36:48 PM
36 pts, 14 rbs, 5 stls, 5 blks   right now heading into OT.  The absurd part isn't the line, but that this type of explosion is fairly routine for him. 

Edit: Won the game.  Finished with 45 / 17 / 5 / 5 / 2.  Shot 50%, 10-11 FTs.  Just 2 TOs with what was probably a 247% usage rate.  What an animal.  I'd trade my happiest childhood memories for him. 
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: SparzWizard on February 25, 2018, 09:19:07 PM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: footey on February 25, 2018, 09:36:29 PM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 25, 2018, 09:40:00 PM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.

Yeah, and it's encouraging that they are winning games at the moment without Cousins. That said, it's also kind of impressive how Anthony Davis has these kind of games and yet most of their wins are just OT wins or wins by less than 3 points, even to bad teams.

But.. they are getting it done still and I don't see him leaving for *at least* another year.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: chilidawg on February 25, 2018, 10:55:04 PM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.
Pelicans future as good as ours?  Not even close.  They were mediocre with Cousins, their cap situation is restrictive, and they have no up and coming players.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: slightly biased bias fan on February 25, 2018, 11:46:19 PM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.
Pelicans future as good as ours?  Not even close.  They were mediocre with Cousins, their cap situation is restrictive, and they have no up and coming players.

I honestly think the worst thing that could have happened was Cousins getting a season ending injury because it introduced a what-if-factor. They were starting to play better together and given Boogie is done for the season, Davis I'm sure will want to give next season another try, but if they would have either missed the playoffs or get destroyed by Houston/GSW with a healthy Cousins then it would have been obvious for Davis that he needed to move on.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on February 26, 2018, 12:48:06 AM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.
Pelicans future as good as ours?  Not even close.  They were mediocre with Cousins, their cap situation is restrictive, and they have no up and coming players.

I honestly think the worst thing that could have happened was Cousins getting a season ending injury because it introduced a what-if-factor. They were starting to play better together and given Boogie is done for the season, Davis I'm sure will want to give next season another try, but if they would have either missed the playoffs or get destroyed by Houston/GSW with a healthy Cousins then it would have been obvious for Davis that he needed to move on.
i don’t think Davis is willing to wait

During an appearance on ESPN’s “The Jump,” Davis explained that he’s heard of star players like Kevin Garnett expressing regret for waiting too long to move on to a better situation suited for success. While Davis doesn’t appear overly concerned about the Pelicans’ future, it’s clear he’s wondered if the grass is greener on the other side.

“When you hear that, it makes you think. I’m not going to lie, it makes you think because you wonder if you’re following in that same path,” Davis said. “But then again, you be like, ‘This year could be the year.’ You don’t know. So you just got to take it year-by-year and just see. See where the team is going, what direction they want to go to, and just see where they’re headed.”


He’s already bringing up KG. It seems he doesn’t want to end up on the tail end of his prime chasing.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: SparzWizard on February 26, 2018, 01:31:37 AM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.
Pelicans future as good as ours?  Not even close.  They were mediocre with Cousins, their cap situation is restrictive, and they have no up and coming players.

I honestly think the worst thing that could have happened was Cousins getting a season ending injury because it introduced a what-if-factor. They were starting to play better together and given Boogie is done for the season, Davis I'm sure will want to give next season another try, but if they would have either missed the playoffs or get destroyed by Houston/GSW with a healthy Cousins then it would have been obvious for Davis that he needed to move on.
i don’t think Davis is willing to wait

During an appearance on ESPN’s “The Jump,” Davis explained that he’s heard of star players like Kevin Garnett expressing regret for waiting too long to move on to a better situation suited for success. While Davis doesn’t appear overly concerned about the Pelicans’ future, it’s clear he’s wondered if the grass is greener on the other side.

“When you hear that, it makes you think. I’m not going to lie, it makes you think because you wonder if you’re following in that same path,” Davis said. “But then again, you be like, ‘This year could be the year.’ You don’t know. So you just got to take it year-by-year and just see. See where the team is going, what direction they want to go to, and just see where they’re headed.”


He’s already bringing up KG. It seems he doesn’t want to end up on the tail end of his prime chasing.

You DO know, Anthony Davis. You DO know you will NOT get past the Big 4 of the Golden State Warriors, the deadly guard duos of the Houston Rockets, the reformed Big 3 of the OKC Thunder, and the young Minnesota Timberwolves on the horizon and other teams in the West. You will NOT with Rajon Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and E'twaun Moore on your team besides the cancerous Boogie.

Come to the east. Come join Boston. That is your only shot at winning a title and being relevant for years to come  ;D
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: trickybilly on February 26, 2018, 01:47:15 AM
Anthony Davis last 5 games...

44/17/2/6/3, W
38/10/1/1/2, W
42/15/3/3/2, W
45/17/2/5/5, W
27/13/1/2/2, W

Get to work, Danny. Get to work.

Why would he come here? Pelicans future as good as ours especially if Cousins returns healthy.
Pelicans future as good as ours?  Not even close.  They were mediocre with Cousins, their cap situation is restrictive, and they have no up and coming players.

I honestly think the worst thing that could have happened was Cousins getting a season ending injury because it introduced a what-if-factor. They were starting to play better together and given Boogie is done for the season, Davis I'm sure will want to give next season another try, but if they would have either missed the playoffs or get destroyed by Houston/GSW with a healthy Cousins then it would have been obvious for Davis that he needed to move on.
i don’t think Davis is willing to wait

During an appearance on ESPN’s “The Jump,” Davis explained that he’s heard of star players like Kevin Garnett expressing regret for waiting too long to move on to a better situation suited for success. While Davis doesn’t appear overly concerned about the Pelicans’ future, it’s clear he’s wondered if the grass is greener on the other side.

“When you hear that, it makes you think. I’m not going to lie, it makes you think because you wonder if you’re following in that same path,” Davis said. “But then again, you be like, ‘This year could be the year.’ You don’t know. So you just got to take it year-by-year and just see. See where the team is going, what direction they want to go to, and just see where they’re headed.”


He’s already bringing up KG. It seems he doesn’t want to end up on the tail end of his prime chasing.

You DO know, Anthony Davis. You DO know you will NOT get past the Big 4 of the Golden State Warriors, the deadly guard duos of the Houston Rockets, the reformed Big 3 of the OKC Thunder, and the young Minnesota Timberwolves on the horizon and other teams in the West. You will NOT with Rajon Rondo, Jrue Holiday, and E'twaun Moore on your team besides the cancerous Boogie.

Come to the east. Come join Boston. That is your only shot at winning a title and being relevant for years to come  ;D

Hang on, isn't that decision up to the Pels brass? Don't think he has a no-trade clause. Or are you saying he should Kyrie-it out of there in the media?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 26, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL

Even if AD was traded to Boston this summer or next year's deadline.

The likely trade that would work in terms of matching salary is Brown, Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, Nader AND (possibly) Ojeyele FOR JUST Davis. Then of course, the Kings Pick + 1-2 more first rounders.

Is he really worth all that? That seems to gut our team. What's our team after that trade. Fantastic starting lineup w/healthy Hayward, BUT likely a horrid bench that lacks depth and not having many options to add to it unless guys are willing to play on vet. minimum contracts.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsQuestFor18 on February 26, 2018, 01:00:53 PM
COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL

Even if AD was traded to Boston this summer or next year's deadline.

The likely trade that would work in terms of matching salary is Brown, Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, Nader AND (possibly) Ojeyele FOR JUST Davis. Then of course, the Kings Pick + 1-2 more first rounders.

Is he really worth all that? That seems to gut our team. What's our team after that trade. Fantastic starting lineup w/healthy Hayward, BUT likely a horrid bench that lacks depth and not having many options to add to it unless guys are willing to play on vet. minimum contracts.

Hate to say it, but NOP would probably want back BOTH Brown + Tatum.

That would probably allow you to keep all of Rozier, Ojeyele and Nader, but Tatum is easily way better than those 3 and has such a tremendous future ahead.

But I hope the Pelicans would accept some package headlined by (Brown OR Tatum, not both) + 2019 Kings Pick. But we'll have to wait and hope Pelicans are mediocre next year (maybe Cousins goes elsewhere this summer)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: RodyTur10 on February 26, 2018, 02:06:05 PM
COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL

Even if AD was traded to Boston this summer or next year's deadline.

The likely trade that would work in terms of matching salary is Brown, Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, Nader AND (possibly) Ojeyele FOR JUST Davis. Then of course, the Kings Pick + 1-2 more first rounders.

Is he really worth all that? That seems to gut our team. What's our team after that trade. Fantastic starting lineup w/healthy Hayward, BUT likely a horrid bench that lacks depth and not having many options to add to it unless guys are willing to play on vet. minimum contracts.

Hate to say it, but NOP would probably want back BOTH Brown + Tatum.

That would probably allow you to keep all of Rozier, Ojeyele and Nader, but Tatum is easily way better than those 3 and has such a tremendous future ahead.

But I hope the Pelicans would accept some package headlined by (Brown OR Tatum, not both) + 2019 Kings Pick. But we'll have to wait and hope Pelicans are mediocre next year (maybe Cousins goes elsewhere this summer)

They would probably insist on Tatum. My question is, are we going to have four big max contracts with Irving, Hayward, Davis and Horford?   
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on February 26, 2018, 10:35:02 PM
He's just taunting us at this point.  Tonight: 53 pts, 17 reb, 5 blk, 3 ast, 1 stl.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: SparzWizard on February 26, 2018, 10:39:57 PM
COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL

Even if AD was traded to Boston this summer or next year's deadline.

The likely trade that would work in terms of matching salary is Brown, Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, Nader AND (possibly) Ojeyele FOR JUST Davis. Then of course, the Kings Pick + 1-2 more first rounders.

Is he really worth all that? That seems to gut our team. What's our team after that trade. Fantastic starting lineup w/healthy Hayward, BUT likely a horrid bench that lacks depth and not having many options to add to it unless guys are willing to play on vet. minimum contracts.

Hate to say it, but NOP would probably want back BOTH Brown + Tatum.

That would probably allow you to keep all of Rozier, Ojeyele and Nader, but Tatum is easily way better than those 3 and has such a tremendous future ahead.

But I hope the Pelicans would accept some package headlined by (Brown OR Tatum, not both) + 2019 Kings Pick. But we'll have to wait and hope Pelicans are mediocre next year (maybe Cousins goes elsewhere this summer)

They would probably insist on Tatum. My question is, are we going to have four big max contracts with Irving, Hayward, Davis and Horford?

Honestly if Davis keeps putting up these monstrous stat lines...I'd have to reluctantly give up both Tatum and Brown, not one or the other lol. Hayward got the 3 covered when he returns.

Of course, if it was one or the other then I'd quickly give 'em Brown.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 26, 2018, 10:43:53 PM
He's just taunting us at this point.  Tonight: 53 pts, 17 reb, 5 blk, 3 ast, 1 stl.

HOLY....  :o :o :o

Pelicans on a 6-game winning streak as well, and in a tight playoff race, they are currently the 6 seed in the West (not far off from the 5 seed). Makes you wonder if it's true Cousins really does hold teams back...  ???

Anyways, it is also kind of weird how AD posts these stat lines and yet the Pelican wins are still mostly by small margins. Idk, just something I've noticed too (not to take anything away from Davis)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on February 26, 2018, 10:44:39 PM
COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL

Even if AD was traded to Boston this summer or next year's deadline.

The likely trade that would work in terms of matching salary is Brown, Morris, Rozier, Yabusele, Nader AND (possibly) Ojeyele FOR JUST Davis. Then of course, the Kings Pick + 1-2 more first rounders.

Is he really worth all that? That seems to gut our team. What's our team after that trade. Fantastic starting lineup w/healthy Hayward, BUT likely a horrid bench that lacks depth and not having many options to add to it unless guys are willing to play on vet. minimum contracts.

Hate to say it, but NOP would probably want back BOTH Brown + Tatum.

That would probably allow you to keep all of Rozier, Ojeyele and Nader, but Tatum is easily way better than those 3 and has such a tremendous future ahead.

But I hope the Pelicans would accept some package headlined by (Brown OR Tatum, not both) + 2019 Kings Pick. But we'll have to wait and hope Pelicans are mediocre next year (maybe Cousins goes elsewhere this summer)

They would probably insist on Tatum. My question is, are we going to have four big max contracts with Irving, Hayward, Davis and Horford?

Honestly if Davis keeps putting up these monstrous stat lines...I'd have to reluctantly give up both Tatum and Brown, not one or the other lol. Hayward got the 3 covered when he returns.

Of course, if it was one or the other then I'd quickly give 'em Brown.

Then what's our bench? That to me is the biggest concern then. Great starting lineup, then a horrid bench for the most part. We'd have to gut our team to even take back AD.  :(
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: JSD on February 27, 2018, 12:44:42 AM
Remember when people around here considered not trading Tatum and Brown for this guy? LOL
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Rondo9 on February 27, 2018, 02:02:34 AM
Remember when people around here considered not trading Tatum and Brown for this guy? LOL

Still wouldn't
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Somebody on February 27, 2018, 02:45:12 AM
Remember when people around here considered not trading Tatum and Brown for this guy? LOL

Still wouldn't
Same, too much depth and cheap talent to give up to minimize the tax.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on February 27, 2018, 03:15:27 AM
I like what Davis is doing but a lot of it is because of the refs. Wonder if the refs are being told by the nba to continue this charade to promote Davis as the next big superstar  of the league

Part of how he got to his 53 points was free throws, in which Davis was 21-of-26. That was four more free throws than he’d attempted in any prior game in his career (22 on Nov. 20, 2017), and three more than he’d ever made in a game (18 in that same game).

The most recent player to go to the line 25 times in a 50-point game was Devin Booker, who was 24-of-26 on free throws in his 70-point game on March 24, 2017. Davis’ Pelicans opposed Booker’s Suns in Monday’s game.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on April 07, 2018, 11:20:17 PM
Looks like there's a really good chance Pelicans will be a 5 seed going into the playoffs (or 6 seed), and there are reports coming out that they will do "everything they can" to bring back Cousins long term.

Obviously the odds of a trade sometime in the next 1 to 1.5 years were still slim, but I think now it's legit approaching 0%. Davis will remain a Pelican for the rest of his contract.

I agree with Kaufman's take here:

https://twitter.com/AdamMKaufman/status/981227045312221189

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Adam Kaufman
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 @AdamMKaufman

Personal opinion: I don't see the #Celtics acquiring Kawhi Leonard. That said, it's A LOT more realistic than the C's pulling off a swap with the #Pelicans for Anthony Davis.

So, if you have to pick one to continually obsess over, I'd go with Kawhi and the #Spurs.

Well, it was a fun thing to dream about.  :angel:

I don't think we will or should trade for Leonard, but either way I'm happy with our current core and we could still add to it after next season with that Kings Pick (and Grizzlies in the near future as well) ;D
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on April 07, 2018, 11:36:01 PM
I needed to look at his stat lines all season in the Yahoo league.  I don't want to... no, I can't... go another year without him in Green.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on April 17, 2018, 11:46:26 AM
Pipe dream?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on April 17, 2018, 11:56:01 AM
Pipe dream?

I think the Celtics are a top 5-10 destination for Davis when he decides that he wants to win. A pipe dream is an unattainable or fanciful hope or scheme.

I don't think it is likely, but there's a slight chance that Davis comes to BOS.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on April 17, 2018, 12:11:42 PM
Pipe dream?

Yes, move along!   :P

I think it especially becomes that if NOP wins another playoff game (regardless if they win the series or not).

Even then I don't think gutting our team for him is worth it at this point.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on May 29, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/5/29/17402760/anthony-davis-pelicans-contract-max-extension-curry-westbrook-wall-harden-free-agent-trade-celtics

Yeah there's NO WAY he's turning down that much money to leave New Orleans, even if by chance Cousins doesn't come back this summer and they are still just middle-of-the-pack next season.

Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsQuestFor18 on May 29, 2018, 12:15:34 PM
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/5/29/17402760/anthony-davis-pelicans-contract-max-extension-curry-westbrook-wall-harden-free-agent-trade-celtics

Yeah there's NO WAY he's turning down that much money to leave New Orleans, even if by chance Cousins doesn't come back this summer and they are still just middle-of-the-pack next season.

I wonder if Smart, in a way, holds the key to a Davis trade sometime in maybe 2019 or 2020?

It's a gamble, but Ainge could re-sign him between 10-13M/Year, then use that salary (Smart) in a package deal for Davis, which would allow us not to fully gut the team and allow us to keep much of the core (Horford/Kyrie/Hayward and one of Brown/Tatum).

Could especially be true if Cousins doesn't come back to NOP this summer and/or if they possibly underachieve next season. We do have the Kings Pick next year which could be enticing (assuming we don't use it in a bigger deal to trade up this year).
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on May 29, 2018, 01:46:59 PM
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/5/29/17402760/anthony-davis-pelicans-contract-max-extension-curry-westbrook-wall-harden-free-agent-trade-celtics

Yeah there's NO WAY he's turning down that much money to leave New Orleans, even if by chance Cousins doesn't come back this summer and they are still just middle-of-the-pack next season.

I wonder if Smart, in a way, holds the key to a Davis trade sometime in maybe 2019 or 2020?

It's a gamble, but Ainge could re-sign him between 10-13M/Year, then use that salary (Smart) in a package deal for Davis, which would allow us not to fully gut the team and allow us to keep much of the core (Horford/Kyrie/Hayward and one of Brown/Tatum).

Could especially be true if Cousins doesn't come back to NOP this summer and/or if they possibly underachieve next season. We do have the Kings Pick next year which could be enticing (assuming we don't use it in a bigger deal to trade up this year).

True, and if Kings Pick strikes "gold" (Top-5 range but not #1 obviously), then it likely has a cap hold of about 6-7M, so Smart (at that 10-13M price) + Kings Pick + Brown? + More Picks could get it done salary wise. AD will make 27M for the 2019-2020 season.

We'll see what happens for the Pelicans this summer and next season.

Still don't see AD leaving and sacrificing that $$$ even if Pelicans are merely middle of the pack though. I assume Cousins will stay with Pels though and re-sign.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Monkhouse on May 29, 2018, 01:51:23 PM
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/5/29/17402760/anthony-davis-pelicans-contract-max-extension-curry-westbrook-wall-harden-free-agent-trade-celtics

Yeah there's NO WAY he's turning down that much money to leave New Orleans, even if by chance Cousins doesn't come back this summer and they are still just middle-of-the-pack next season.

I wonder if Smart, in a way, holds the key to a Davis trade sometime in maybe 2019 or 2020?

It's a gamble, but Ainge could re-sign him between 10-13M/Year, then use that salary (Smart) in a package deal for Davis, which would allow us not to fully gut the team and allow us to keep much of the core (Horford/Kyrie/Hayward and one of Brown/Tatum).

Could especially be true if Cousins doesn't come back to NOP this summer and/or if they possibly underachieve next season. We do have the Kings Pick next year which could be enticing (assuming we don't use it in a bigger deal to trade up this year).

I have to believe if anything someone like Rozier would make more sense and since he fits their team better. Plus while Rozier isn't as great of a defender, he can actually shoot :P
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: kozlodoev on May 29, 2018, 02:06:38 PM
Pipe dream?
Double pipe. But it can be made to work in NBA 2k!
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on May 29, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/5/29/17402760/anthony-davis-pelicans-contract-max-extension-curry-westbrook-wall-harden-free-agent-trade-celtics

Yeah there's NO WAY he's turning down that much money to leave New Orleans, even if by chance Cousins doesn't come back this summer and they are still just middle-of-the-pack next season.

I wonder if Smart, in a way, holds the key to a Davis trade sometime in maybe 2019 or 2020?

It's a gamble, but Ainge could re-sign him between 10-13M/Year, then use that salary (Smart) in a package deal for Davis, which would allow us not to fully gut the team and allow us to keep much of the core (Horford/Kyrie/Hayward and one of Brown/Tatum).

Could especially be true if Cousins doesn't come back to NOP this summer and/or if they possibly underachieve next season. We do have the Kings Pick next year which could be enticing (assuming we don't use it in a bigger deal to trade up this year).

I have to believe if anything someone like Rozier would make more sense and since he fits their team better. Plus while Rozier isn't as great of a defender, he can actually shoot :P

Possibly. Rozier is a RFA next summer. Sign and trade candidate maybe.

But Danny probably won't gamble and will likely sell high on Rozier now. But if he doesn't think there's a good deal out there, maybe he re-signs Smart AND keeps Rozier for another year (and let's him simply walk in 2019)
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: green_bballers13 on May 29, 2018, 03:07:29 PM
I predict that the Pelicans give AD as much as humanly possible. I also think that they will eventually give him a wing to play with.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on May 29, 2018, 03:40:52 PM
I predict that the Pelicans give AD as much as humanly possible. I also think that they will eventually give him a wing to play with.

Obviously the Pelicans will give him the $$$ that he can get (which is a ton, for good reason).

And yeah it's kind of a bummer they don't have much cap space, because man Paul George would be PERFECT for them. Maybe if there is tension in MIN but they want to keep KAT, Pelicans can all and inquire about Jimmy Butler (another potentially great fit there).

Of course, we have to see what happens with Cousins first.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: JHTruth on May 29, 2018, 03:47:55 PM
I used to operate under the delusion that AD might find his way to Boston, I don't anymore. He's going to get the biggest contract in NBA history from the Pels, as he is the only reason for the franchise to even exist at this point. Their owner has recently passed, and no doubt the league will make sure AD stays in NOLA for no other reason than to keep the franchise afloat..
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: Phantom255x on May 29, 2018, 07:51:06 PM
I used to operate under the delusion that AD might find his way to Boston, I don't anymore. He's going to get the biggest contract in NBA history from the Pels, as he is the only reason for the franchise to even exist at this point. Their owner has recently passed, and no doubt the league will make sure AD stays in NOLA for no other reason than to keep the franchise afloat..

Oh well, surely there will be another disgruntled star out there to gloss over in the next year or two!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on May 30, 2018, 01:27:48 AM
Pipe dream?
Double pipe. But it can be made to work in NBA 2k!

lol true.
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: CelticsElite on May 30, 2018, 01:50:43 AM
Am I the only one who thinks ADs great year was a large part because of rondos vision and passing? I wonder if rondo will resign with them and how much rondo will get?
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: gouki88 on May 30, 2018, 02:20:58 AM
Am I the only one who thinks ADs great year was a large part because of rondos vision and passing? I wonder if rondo will resign with them and how much rondo will get?
You are. His scoring didn't really improve with Rondo compared to without him the year before. His rebounding went down, but defensive stats & shooting % went up by a bit.

Additionally, in the back half of the year he averaged 30/11.7 with 2 assists, 2 steals and 3 blocks per game. I think it might just be a case of the team functioning better with him as the lone big.

All that being said, Rondo was awesome for them, and I hope he can find a way to either stay with NOP, or go to a legitimate contender
Title: Re: 2017-2018 Anthony Davis season Watch Thread
Post by: rondofan1255 on June 08, 2018, 05:53:48 PM
Am I the only one who thinks ADs great year was a large part because of rondos vision and passing? I wonder if rondo will resign with them and how much rondo will get?
You are. His scoring didn't really improve with Rondo compared to without him the year before. His rebounding went down, but defensive stats & shooting % went up by a bit.

Additionally, in the back half of the year he averaged 30/11.7 with 2 assists, 2 steals and 3 blocks per game. I think it might just be a case of the team functioning better with him as the lone big.

All that being said, Rondo was awesome for them, and I hope he can find a way to either stay with NOP, or go to a legitimate contender

Incredible numbers  :)