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Re: FIBA Basketball 2023
« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2023, 03:44:09 AM »

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but why do they value the olympics higher? It's a tournament within a tournament... buried beneath hundreds of other sports.
the world cup puts basketball into the spotlight. so why not value it more?

also... if team USA showed up with their elite, the world cup would get more attention and significance overall.

Probably because the World Cup only became known as the World Cup for this year, because they were trying to increase interest in it. Prior to that it was the FIBA Basketball Championships and and to be honest I would doubt many in the US follow it or even know about it. The NBA is seen as the premier basketball championship in terms of overall quality. The Olympic basketball tournament trades off the equity in the Olympics brand.

I suppose to try to compare it to something that a European would understand better, it would be like the Olympics being the Champions League and the FIBA Championships being the Europa League...or the World Cup vs the Nations League. One just has a lot more cachet and prestige than the other.
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Re: FIBA Basketball 2023
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2023, 07:45:24 AM »

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but why do they value the olympics higher? It's a tournament within a tournament... buried beneath hundreds of other sports.
the world cup puts basketball into the spotlight. so why not value it more?

also... if team USA showed up with their elite, the world cup would get more attention and significance overall.

Probably because the World Cup only became known as the World Cup for this year, because they were trying to increase interest in it. Prior to that it was the FIBA Basketball Championships and and to be honest I would doubt many in the US follow it or even know about it. The NBA is seen as the premier basketball championship in terms of overall quality. The Olympic basketball tournament trades off the equity in the Olympics brand.

I suppose to try to compare it to something that a European would understand better, it would be like the Olympics being the Champions League and the FIBA Championships being the Europa League...or the World Cup vs the Nations League. One just has a lot more cachet and prestige than the other.

Yep.  And that doesn't seem unique to basketball, either.  With most sports, the Olympics have a higher level of prestige than the World Championships.  At least in America, we care about Olympic golds, and not much of anything else. 



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Re: FIBA Basketball 2023
« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2023, 10:28:10 PM »

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but why do they value the olympics higher? It's a tournament within a tournament... buried beneath hundreds of other sports.
the world cup puts basketball into the spotlight. so why not value it more?

also... if team USA showed up with their elite, the world cup would get more attention and significance overall.

Probably because the World Cup only became known as the World Cup for this year, because they were trying to increase interest in it. Prior to that it was the FIBA Basketball Championships and and to be honest I would doubt many in the US follow it or even know about it. The NBA is seen as the premier basketball championship in terms of overall quality. The Olympic basketball tournament trades off the equity in the Olympics brand.

I suppose to try to compare it to something that a European would understand better, it would be like the Olympics being the Champions League and the FIBA Championships being the Europa League...or the World Cup vs the Nations League. One just has a lot more cachet and prestige than the other.

Yep.  And that doesn't seem unique to basketball, either.  With most sports, the Olympics have a higher level of prestige than the World Championships.  At least in America, we care about Olympic golds, and not much of anything else.
It is the case for a lot of Olympic team sports. The major exceptions being soccer & rugby
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Re: FIBA Basketball 2023
« Reply #108 on: September 19, 2023, 09:24:39 PM »

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So Austin Reaves ended up Team USA's 2nd leading scorer & was tied for 1st in scoring efficiency. Actually Mikal Bridges and Reaves were almost neck and neck for both ppg (13.8ppg & 13.6ppg) and scoring efficiency (around 1.53 points per possession).

Impressive run for Reaves.

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« Reply #109 on: September 20, 2023, 05:31:28 PM »

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So Austin Reaves ended up Team USA's 2nd leading scorer & was tied for 1st in scoring efficiency. Actually Mikal Bridges and Reaves were almost neck and neck for both ppg (13.8ppg & 13.6ppg) and scoring efficiency (around 1.53 points per possession).

Impressive run for Reaves.
He was also the most targeted player on defence.
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)