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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1155 on: August 28, 2023, 10:40:33 PM »

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Ballot submitted, great work everyone I hope you all had fun and good luck to all!
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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1156 on: August 29, 2023, 10:04:15 AM »

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This was really, really fun. Thanks for putting this on, all. And if anyone is on the fence about doing one of these, I'd highly recommend it :)
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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1157 on: August 30, 2023, 09:50:48 PM »

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I am working on my ballot.  May not finish tonight. I'm tired.

EDIT: I was closer to finishing then I thought.  Putting together my pm ballot.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2023, 10:01:03 PM by Moranis »
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1158 on: August 30, 2023, 10:12:15 PM »

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If I had more time, I would actually input every team into the whatifsports.com simulator and play it out.

Plugged the Nets in, just over 76 million payroll

        Pos   Player   PPG   RPG   APG   TOPG   SPG   BPG   Salary
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PG   82-83 Maurice Cheeks   12.5   2.6   6.9   2.3   2.3   0.4   $5,547,898
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PG   76-77 Don Buse   8.0   3.3   8.5   2.9   3.5   0.2   $5,364,734
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   05-06 Richard Hamilton   20.1   3.2   3.4   2.2   0.7   0.2   $5,988,858
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   92-93 Drazen Petrovic   22.3   2.7   3.5   2.9   1.3   0.2   $5,678,184
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   83-84 Adrian Dantley   30.6   5.7   3.9   3.3   0.8   0.1   $7,894,051
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   03-04 Jim Jackson   12.9   6.1   2.8   2.2   1.1   0.3   $6,178,492
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   02-03 Bruce Bowen   7.1   2.9   1.4   0.9   0.8   0.5   $4,829,901
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   79-80 Dan Roundfield   16.5   10.3   2.3   2.9   1.2   1.7   $6,749,531
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   09-10 Pau Gasol   18.3   11.3   3.4   2.2   0.6   1.7   $6,473,563
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   78-79 George McGinnis   22.6   11.4   3.7   4.6   1.7   0.7   $6,302,113
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   04-05 Amare Stoudemire   26.0   8.9   1.6   2.4   1.0   1.6   $7,978,527
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   79-80 Dan Issel   23.8   8.8   2.4   2.0   1.1   0.7   $7,300,735
Totals   18.3   6.4   3.6   2.5   1.3   0.7   $76,286,587

Didn't even plug the positions in and just like I'm going they actually went with Amar'e at center and Pau at power forward.  I found it interesting that almost all of the seasons I chose were not the highest valued eligible seasons for my team.  I guess the simulator values things a bit differently then I did.
2023 Historical Draft - Brooklyn Nets - 9th pick

Bigs - Pau, Amar'e, Issel, McGinnis, Roundfield
Wings - Dantley, Bowen, J. Jackson
Guards - Cheeks, Petrovic, Buse, Rip

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1159 on: August 31, 2023, 09:55:32 PM »

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If I had more time, I would actually input every team into the whatifsports.com simulator and play it out.

Plugged the Nets in, just over 76 million payroll

        Pos   Player   PPG   RPG   APG   TOPG   SPG   BPG   Salary
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PG   82-83 Maurice Cheeks   12.5   2.6   6.9   2.3   2.3   0.4   $5,547,898
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PG   76-77 Don Buse   8.0   3.3   8.5   2.9   3.5   0.2   $5,364,734
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   05-06 Richard Hamilton   20.1   3.2   3.4   2.2   0.7   0.2   $5,988,858
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   92-93 Drazen Petrovic   22.3   2.7   3.5   2.9   1.3   0.2   $5,678,184
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   83-84 Adrian Dantley   30.6   5.7   3.9   3.3   0.8   0.1   $7,894,051
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   03-04 Jim Jackson   12.9   6.1   2.8   2.2   1.1   0.3   $6,178,492
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   02-03 Bruce Bowen   7.1   2.9   1.4   0.9   0.8   0.5   $4,829,901
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   79-80 Dan Roundfield   16.5   10.3   2.3   2.9   1.2   1.7   $6,749,531
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   09-10 Pau Gasol   18.3   11.3   3.4   2.2   0.6   1.7   $6,473,563
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   78-79 George McGinnis   22.6   11.4   3.7   4.6   1.7   0.7   $6,302,113
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   04-05 Amare Stoudemire   26.0   8.9   1.6   2.4   1.0   1.6   $7,978,527
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   79-80 Dan Issel   23.8   8.8   2.4   2.0   1.1   0.7   $7,300,735
Totals   18.3   6.4   3.6   2.5   1.3   0.7   $76,286,587

The Chicago Bulls, in the seasons I picked, check in at $87.4M

Draft Picks: 12/12  Payroll: $87,394,785

SF   02-03 Tracy McGrady   32.1   6.5   5.5   2.6   1.7   0.8   $8,438,463
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   77-78 David Thompson   27.6   4.9   4.5   3.1   1.2   1.2   $7,701,548
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   13-14 Blake Griffin   24.1   9.5   3.9   2.8   1.2   0.6   $7,683,940
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   76-77 Bob Lanier   25.6   11.6   3.3   2.6   1.1   2.0   $6,513,862
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PG   07-08 Deron Williams   18.8   3.0   10.5   3.4   1.1   0.3   $7,599,447
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PF   91-92 Larry Nance   17.0   8.3   2.9   1.1   1.0   3.0   $8,010,350
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   92-93 Brad Daugherty   20.2   10.2   4.4   2.1   0.7   0.8   $7,169,405
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   96-97 Hersey Hawkins   13.9   3.9   3.0   1.6   1.9   0.1   $6,536,899
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SF   06-07 Tayshaun Prince   14.3   5.2   2.8   1.2   0.6   0.7   $6,924,962
Clear Spot   Replace Player   PG   16-17 John Wall   23.1   4.2   10.7   4.1   2.0   0.6   $7,306,597
Clear Spot   Replace Player   C   06-07 Marcus Camby   11.2   11.7   3.2   1.7   1.2   3.3   $6,145,544
Clear Spot   Replace Player   SG   80-81 Micheal Ray Richardson   16.4   6.9   7.9   3.8   2.9   0.4   $7,363,768
Totals   20.3   7.0   5.3   2.5   1.4   1.1   $87,394,785
« Last Edit: August 31, 2023, 10:23:46 PM by smokeablount »
2023 Non-Active, Non-NBA 75 Historical Draft, SAB Bulls:

PG: Deron Williams 08 / John Wall 17
SG: David Thompson 78 (HOF) / Hersey Hawkins 91
SF: TMac 03 (HOF) / M.R. Richardson 81 / Tayshaun 07
PF: Larry Nance Sr 92 / Blake Griffin 14
C: Lanier 77 (HOF) / Brad Daugherty 91 / Camby 07

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1160 on: September 12, 2023, 09:52:26 PM »

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Still pursuing the final ballot, I have not forgotten about this!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1161 on: September 21, 2023, 07:07:11 AM »

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I haven't been able to make contact with wdleehi unfortunately. I have discussed this with another poster, and I think I might have a go at releasing a leaderboard minus wdleehi's team & votes received, because currently he has an advantage.

This will take a bit more counting from me, so it might not happen for a day or two, but just flagging that this is not dead!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1162 on: September 21, 2023, 07:27:05 AM »

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I haven't been able to make contact with wdleehi unfortunately. I have discussed this with another poster, and I think I might have a go at releasing a leaderboard minus wdleehi's team & votes received, because currently he has an advantage.

This will take a bit more counting from me, so it might not happen for a day or two, but just flagging that this is not dead!

Yeah...  Teams that don't vote essentially save themselves a last place vote in the calculations, as they would appear on every ballot. 

I don't think that's anything strategic with wdleehi here, though.  He's just swamped at the beginning of the school year.  Too bad he couldn't participate more, because I really liked his team.


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Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results being Announced
« Reply #1163 on: September 27, 2023, 05:30:04 PM »

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Time to take some limelight off the Dame bombshell, and get stated on announcing these results.

Given either I'm not smart enough or CS doesn't have the function, rather than one big posts with spoiler marks, I will sequence individual posts from last place to first. Hope that suits all!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1164 on: September 27, 2023, 05:33:30 PM »

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In last (but not least) place, due to a failure to submit votes on time, is...

The Utah Jazz, GM'd by wdleehi!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - VOTING OPEN!
« Reply #1165 on: September 27, 2023, 05:34:11 PM »

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In 11th place is...

The Memphis Grizzlies, GM'd by celticinorlando
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results being announced
« Reply #1166 on: September 27, 2023, 05:34:50 PM »

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In 10th place is...

The Brooklyn Nets, GM'd by Moranis!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results being announced
« Reply #1167 on: September 27, 2023, 05:35:24 PM »

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In 9th place are...

The Washington Generals, GM'd by Kernewek!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results being announced
« Reply #1168 on: September 27, 2023, 05:35:46 PM »

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In 8th place are...

The Sacramento Kings, GM'd by Donoghus!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: 2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results being announced
« Reply #1169 on: September 27, 2023, 05:36:05 PM »

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In 7th place come...

The LA Clippers, GM'd by RPGenerate!
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)