Marc Stein: My sense is that the Grizzlies, since that Jan. 14 tweet, have indeed been quietly gauging the Gasol landscape and assessing their options — even though their preference surely remains not trading him. – via New York Times
If (when?) the Grizzlies reach the point that they are truly prepared to break up their star duo of Gasol and Mike Conley, one potential trade scenario I’ve heard would involve Memphis insisting to any interested team that Chandler Parsons must be involved in the same trade. – via New York Times
What team wants to pay Marc Gasol the functional equivalent of $48 million this season and $50 million next? That’s crazy talk.
honestly my first thought was Batum and Charlotte. I came up with something like this.
Gasol, Parsons for Batum, Zeller, Lamb, lotto protected 1st
I could see Charlotte but they have the uncertainty with Kemba. The Wizards should jump at the chance to get out from under the Wall contract. Same with the Cavs and Love.
Yeah, I can honestly see the Grizzlies going the other way and deciding to keep Gasol and Conley, and trade for someone like Love to add to them.
They can't as they have nothing of any real value to trade (aside from Jackson, Gasol, or Conley) and the Cavs have gotten a fair amount of interest in Love, such that they can actually trade him for value (not a lot, but some). That is the Grizzlies real problem is they just don't have many assets on their team right now aside from their top 4 pick and their 2 aging stars. They need to come to that realization and trade Gasol now and see what they can get for Conley.
A fair amount of interest, based on what info?
Love's contract is a negative long term asset, that is irrefutable fact.
I don't know who is offering anything of value for him.
If by the value you mean getting another albatross contract (+ expiring) + some top 20 protected 2023 pick, then ok.
But then again why would Memphis clog their cap space and give future picks with an aged, often injured, over the hill star as they are entering the rebuilding phase, is beyond my imagination. Especially since they owe us a pick and they don't know when it will convey and they, due to Cleveland's own Ted Stepien rule, can't send another 1st rounder until 2023.
Based on all the rumors and several different teams including the Pelicans, Thunder, Jazz, Lakers, Rockets, Nuggets, Pacers, and Heat have all been linked to Love this season and some of them even last week. Love has to get back on the court and play though for the Cavs to be able to get full value (whatever that is).
So apparently several teams disagree with your irrefutable fact.
Read more efficiently.
I wrote that he is a longterm negative asset, not that there is no team willing to accept a negative asset in a trade.
but those teams aren't looking at him that way. The rumors are that the Cavs will get value for him and not have to give up value to unload him. that means he is not a long term negative asset.
I must say this seems really hard to believe because he is owed 120 million dollars for the next 4 years and has battled all kinds of injuries in his 20's (including scary back stuff). How can you feel comfortable paying him for 4 years of his 30's (he turned 30 this season)? I am curious what a potential value deal is for him? If you have seen any legit rumors I would love to see them.
It would be a young player (low to mid tier value), some form of contract (likely a year or two), and a 1st (likely a late or highly protected one). Nothing great and if Love is healthy he has more value as a player then they could get for him (by a wide margin). The thing is no one is all that interested until Love steps foot back on the court and he can't actually be traded until tomorrow at the earliest so there was never going to be anything close to a serious talk until then anyway, which is why there aren't any real solid rumors. That said, I saw something last week linking the Thunder to Love and the trades I saw brandied about was something like Schroder, Diallo, and Noel. That trade actually seemingly made sense for both teams, but that is only if Love actually shows he can play this year.
It seems like that deal would really hurt OKC's depth wouldn't it? Schroeder is playing nearly 30 minutes a game for them and averaging 15.5 and 5 (and i think some good perimeter defense). Noel is only playing about 15 points a game but is pretty effective in those minutes averaging a steal, block and 5 points and 5 rebounds with good defense while WOJ recently called Diallo a revelation for the thunder at 20 years old.
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2018/11/28/oklahoma-city-thunder-hamidou-diallo-revelation-adrian-wojnarowski-espn/
Why in the world would the Thunder cash out all those guys for someone who is going to be a third or 4th option on there team and get 120 million over 4 years?
because Love is better than those guys and thus is a much better fit with RW and PG.
Only Cavs fans would do this trade. This makes OKC worse.
Gotta call shenanigans here. Love is an NBA champion - OKC would have every incentive to do this deal. I mean... if the Celtics can pay Gordon Hayward Top 5 money to be a redundant bench player OKC can pay Love to be their third scorer.
Yeah I think that would make the Thunder a lot better and with the big contracts to RW, PG, and SA they aren't adding talent to the team any other way (and the reality is to keep Schroder, Noel, and Diallo they are probably paying as much or more than Love).
Now that trade needs a bit more salary (leaving OKC) to actually work so say the trade is something like this
Love, Frye, Payne for Schroder, Noel, Diallo, Patterson (if OKC wanted to move on from Roberson, then Burks or Clarkson could be added as well giving OKC more usable depth this year)
So Post-Trade for OKC they would be below, and I really like the makeup of that team. I think they could cause GS problems and if the Warriors break-up this summer, OKC might very well be the title favorite next year.
PG - Westbrook, Payne, Felton
Wings - George, Ferguson, Abrines, Nader, Luwawu-Cabarrot (eventually Roberson is back)
Bigs - Adams, Love, Grant, Frye
Again this is all pre-conditioned on Love actually stepping foot back on the court and showing he can still play because that is the only way that sort of trade makes sense for the Thunder, but if Love can do that, I do think that sort of trade makes perfect sense for both teams.