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Title: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: rondohondo on June 13, 2012, 12:22:42 PM
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Nerlens Noel ‏@NerlensNoel3                June 9

I'm from Boston Massachusetts. Ima Celtics fan till i die #BelieveThat ! #CelticPride

http://twitter.com/#!/NerlensNoel3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0k9rgeKOw8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny_QZi9V8a8
It can't be a bad thing that he's a Celtics fan...

If KG decides to retire I say we trade PP for draft picks and tank for a year next season for a chance to grab this kid. He supposedly has superstar potential and he looks like he could be a great defender .

Just sign guys on 1 year contracts next year and develop the rookies , then in the summer of 2013 we will have a bunch of cap space to sign a UFA in a good FA class. Plus hopefully land a lottery pick to grab this kid !

Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: esel1000 on June 13, 2012, 12:25:29 PM
With the Celtics luck in the lottery I don't think I'd want to risk that... Noel is probably gonna be the #1 pick in the 2013 draft. Too much potential and talent. The C's tried this to land Durant and it failed miserably. The Bobcats won 7 games this year and couldn't even grab #1... It's too hard to measure, I'd rather enjoy a season than tank tbh
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: droopdog7 on June 13, 2012, 12:30:41 PM
With the Celtics luck in the lottery I don't think I'd want to risk that... Noel is probably gonna be the #1 pick in the 2013 draft. Too much potential and talent. The C's tried this to land Durant and it failed miserably. The Bobcats won 7 games this year and couldn't even grab #1... It's too hard to measure, I'd rather enjoy a season than tank tbh
Yeah, it's simply not worth just for the chance to grab this kid.  Now, if you told me we would absolutely have him if we suffered for a year, then I'd probably do it.  He is a project on offense but a difference maker on defense.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: sofutomygaha on June 13, 2012, 12:32:03 PM
I'm going to wait until a season where we don't go to the conference finals before talking about rock bottom...
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: rondohondo on June 13, 2012, 12:36:58 PM
I'm going to wait until a season where we don't go to the conference finals before talking about rock bottom...
If KG retires we aren't winning anything anyways. Whats the point of being a mediocre playoff team for a year , or worse multiple years if we sign dumb free agents like Detroit did ......

Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Finkelskyhook on June 13, 2012, 12:42:58 PM
I like that he blocks shots in play instead of launching them into the stands.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: droopdog7 on June 13, 2012, 12:45:27 PM
I'm going to wait until a season where we don't go to the conference finals before talking about rock bottom...
If KG retires we aren't winning anything anyways. Whats the point of being a mediocre playoff team for a year , or worse multiple years if we sign dumb free agents like Detroit did ......


You are right about this.  Basically, our entire plan next year hinges on KG.  If he comes back, it will only be to a team that is trying to contend.  If KG doesn't come back, then yeah, let's just blow it up now.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: CantBeRight on June 13, 2012, 01:10:21 PM
It will be either him or shabazz Muhammed for #1 depending on how well they do in college.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: manl_lui on June 13, 2012, 01:19:57 PM
if he loves the Celtics that much, we probably don't even need to grab him in the draft and waste a year. He'll probably come to us when hes a FA...but thats a long shot and he's still a kid. Who knows once he makes big money, that might change
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: sofutomygaha on June 13, 2012, 01:46:47 PM

Can I just go on record with this?

     Kevin Garnett is healthy,
+   still one of the 20 best players in the league,
+   only 36, and
+   no one ever retired for whom the previous 3 things are true.
+   Also, Doc Rivers is signed for four years, and
+   all of his teammates who matter (except possibly Allen) will be back next year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
=   Kevin Garnett will not retire.


Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: rondohondo on June 13, 2012, 03:01:28 PM
I like that he blocks shots in play instead of launching them into the stands.

yea me too, looks like he could become a Ibaka like shot blocker.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: GetThatTicket on June 13, 2012, 04:28:42 PM
With the Celtics luck in the lottery I don't think I'd want to risk that... Noel is probably gonna be the #1 pick in the 2013 draft. Too much potential and talent. The C's tried this to land Durant and it failed miserably. The Bobcats won 7 games this year and couldn't even grab #1... It's too hard to measure, I'd rather enjoy a season than tank tbh

Yeah how big of a disappointment was not being able to land Durant? Instead, we had to trade for KG and Ray and win a stupid championship.

Playing the draft lottery never works..

(sarcasm now off)
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: ole_gunar on June 13, 2012, 05:24:10 PM
No tanking, please, we are Celtics!!!
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Smokeeye123 on June 14, 2012, 12:05:18 AM
We could just sign him if we have the money in *gulp* 2018... :-\

I'm sure we'd be on the top of his list if he decided to enter free agency and not resign with his team...

Maybe this is where we look to move Rajon Rondo?
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Steven17 on June 14, 2012, 04:52:31 AM
(http://www.50centloseweight.com)Good point :-*
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: mr. dee on June 15, 2012, 07:47:23 AM
Paul Pierce was a huge laker fan. Where did he went? That's right. The team he used to hate as a kid, this team.

Same can be said about that kid. He might learn to love the team he will play for. Let's just hope it will be the C's.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: GranTur on June 15, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
Muhammad and Noel undoubtedly have hall-of-fame potential.

Obviously Muhammad's strength is offense and Noel's is defense.

Who will be better to build with? The deciding factor is obvious to me: who can develop the other side of their game better? If Muhammad shows MJ or Kobe-level defensive prowess, he has the whole package. If Noel develops a consistent mid-range jump shot and low-post repertoire, he has the whole package.

The only other question mark is intangibles and leadership. Both look positive in that department.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: CeltsAcumen on June 15, 2012, 03:44:51 PM
I would much rather wait until Noels played against one legit D1 center/PF before we call him a star.

The guy has not even been in a practice for Kentucky, maybe we should wait.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: TripleOT on June 16, 2012, 10:37:04 AM
Bring back the territorial draft!!
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: mqtcelticsfan on June 16, 2012, 03:22:10 PM
Bring back the territorial draft!!

I think this would be about the coolest idea ever. It's actually such a cool idea that I tend to do this in my franchise modes in video games. If some really awesome player from USC is getting drafted, you can be sure he's going to an LA team in my game, haha.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: rondohondo on January 20, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Bump, we have to have something to look forward to with this mediocre ball club.

Only 5 years til Noel is an ufa and will come back home to Boston  ;)
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: PhoSita on January 20, 2013, 10:21:57 PM
Maybe if the Cs make some trades around the time of the draft to move up.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: ScottHow on January 22, 2013, 09:54:36 PM
Noel was my dream situation going into this season, tank, get lucky in the ping pong balls, BOOM! Noel!
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: CelticConcourse on January 23, 2013, 12:05:38 PM

Can I just go on record with this?

     Kevin Garnett is healthy,
+   still one of the 20 best players in the league,
+   only 36, and
+   no one ever retired for whom the previous 3 things are true.
+   Also, Doc Rivers is signed for four years, and
+   all of his teammates who matter (except possibly Allen) will be back next year.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
=   Kevin Garnett will not retire.

This.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: rondohondo on January 27, 2013, 05:21:30 PM
Hey maybe we actually have a shot at the hometown boy after the news about Rondo today. Tank for Noel , the next KG :P
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: albas89 on February 12, 2013, 08:56:23 PM
Didn't know where to put it, but Nerlens looks done for the season... probably an ACL tear as well!

Wishing the best for the kid, he's very talented and I hope this injury doesn't take a toll on his NBA career!

Btw, considering the fact that he has openly said he's a Celtics fan, no big surprise there... :P
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Who on February 12, 2013, 08:57:53 PM
Didn't know where to put it, but Nerlens looks done for the season... probably an ACL tear as well!

Considering the fact that he has openly said he's a Celtics fan, no big surprise there... :P

Yikes! If so, that puts a major question mark next to him on draft night. ACL tear for an undersized big who relies on his quickness and explosiveness. A lot of added risk there.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: lightspeed5 on February 12, 2013, 09:02:16 PM
he might fall low enough on the draft for us to pick him up? or he goes to school for another year.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: diconzo on February 12, 2013, 09:15:52 PM
he might fall low enough on the draft for us to pick him up? or he goes to school for another year.

I wouldn't care if he tore his ACL, MCL, or everything. I would still trade up to get him (Now it just wouldn't have to be as far and would have a realistic chance of happening, I know Charlotte has two picks in this draft, as long as Portland stays above 12, and they want to trade out) . I'm sure there's other teams thinking the exact same thing, with a more realistic chance, but it would be sweet to see him come home to Beantown.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: saltlover on February 13, 2013, 12:04:08 AM
It would obviously depend somewhat as to how bad of an injury it is, and if he chooses to come out at all, but I would be surprised if he dropped that far.  A lot of NBA teams draft based on future projection anyway.  He was one of about 4-5 players being talked about at #1 -- I doubt he goes there now, obviously, but I also think he doesn't drop far out of that top 5.

Tough for the kid though.  He was a game-changer for that team.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: KGs Knee on February 13, 2013, 12:09:54 AM
Probably stays in school for at least another year.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Fafnir on February 13, 2013, 09:12:45 AM
Didn't know where to put it, but Nerlens looks done for the season... probably an ACL tear as well!

Considering the fact that he has openly said he's a Celtics fan, no big surprise there... :P

Yikes! If so, that puts a major question mark next to him on draft night. ACL tear for an undersized big who relies on his quickness and explosiveness. A lot of added risk there.
Will he still come out in the draft is a big question. But yeah that injury didn't look good.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: TripleOT on February 13, 2013, 09:16:25 AM
Any young man with a first round draft promise should watch this video before making his decision. The rule that disallows HS players from declaring for the NBA draft is unfair to players and fans. 

If a young man wants to earn a living right away as a basketball player he has that right. Unfortunately the NBAPA didn't feel strongly enough about the issue to fight for that in their last labor agreement.  Too bad all the HS-to-pros in the union, like KG, Kobe, and LBJ, didn't fight for it.  I know Jermaine O'Neal was outspoken in his belief that the new rule was unfair and bad for the game.  As an NBA fan, I enjoyed watching LeBron, Shaq, KG, and Kobe as rookies, and I even enjoyed watching some of the HS guys who struggled their first year in the league.  HS-to-pros guys are generally  more successful long term than players who go the college route (probably because they're more talented than the average college prospect). 

One and done does nothing but delay the inevitable, anyways.  And in the worse case scenario, a catastrophic injury may take away a talented young man's future, like what might have happened to Noel.  Without the new rule, he's be on an NBA roster right now, with at least $5m guaranteed to him, rehabbing his injury with the best resources that money can buy.

 
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Snakehead on February 13, 2013, 09:23:41 AM
That's a real bummer how this went down.

Any young man with a first round draft promise should watch this video before making his decision. The rule that disallows HS players from declaring for the NBA draft is unfair to players and fans. 

If a young man wants to earn a living right away as a basketball player he has that right. Unfortunately the NBAPA didn't feel strongly enough about the issue to fight for that in their last labor agreement.  Too bad all the HS-to-pros in the union, like KG, Kobe, and LBJ, didn't fight for it.  I know Jermaine O'Neal was outspoken in his belief that the new rule was unfair and bad for the game.  As an NBA fan, I enjoyed watching LeBron, Shaq, KG, and Kobe as rookies, and I even enjoyed watching some of the HS guys who struggled their first year in the league.  HS-to-pros guys are generally  more successful long term than players who go the college route (probably because they're more talented than the average college prospect). 

One and done does nothing but delay the inevitable, anyways.  And in the worse case scenario, a catastrophic injury may take away a talented young man's future, like what might have happened to Noel.  Without the new rule, he's be on an NBA roster right now, with at least $5m guaranteed to him, rehabbing his injury with the best resources that money can buy.

 

I totally agree, in all sports.
Title: Nerlens Noel suffers bad knee injury
Post by: rondohondo on February 13, 2013, 10:34:29 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsUXzSYh9w

sucks, he was likely going to be the # 1 pick . Guess he won't be entering the draft this year.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: erisred on February 13, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
Any young man with a first round draft promise should watch this video before making his decision. The rule that disallows HS players from declaring for the NBA draft is unfair to players and fans. 
While I don't disagree with you that it is unfair to HS players that the NBA won't sign them until they are 19 or have completed one year of college, they *do* have other options. A player can come out of HS and play professionally overseas, like Jennings did, for a year and then enter the draft. That is a perfectly reasonable alternative that more kids should explore. I'm not positive, but I also think a kid could go directly to the DLeague from high school, as I don't think unaffiliated players there covered by the CBA.

So, sure it's not really fair to make them wait a year, but a kid could go play for pay in Spain, France, Italy, or China for a year or two before they even *graduate* from HS. More power to 'em!
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: saltlover on February 13, 2013, 04:39:41 PM
Didn't know where to put it, but Nerlens looks done for the season... probably an ACL tear as well!

Considering the fact that he has openly said he's a Celtics fan, no big surprise there... :P

Yikes! If so, that puts a major question mark next to him on draft night. ACL tear for an undersized big who relies on his quickness and explosiveness. A lot of added risk there.
Will he still come out in the draft is a big question. But yeah that injury didn't look good.

I think coming out would be the best decision for him.  He'll still get drafted, probably pretty high, in the first round.  I have to imagine his rehab will go better with a pro team able to look after him, and being able to rehab full-time, rather than college resources and also time commitments.  Even if he loses a little money in the draft, it's one year earlier to free agency.  He'd probably make as much long term if he comes out, since he was never getting drafted first overall next year, anyway.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Yoki_IsTheName on February 13, 2013, 04:51:51 PM
He's out for season eh? That's a real bummer.

I guess he needs to stay one more year in school. Unless he doesnt mind not being the number 1 overall pick.

I think he needs to stay for one more year anyways. His defense is there, but he still needs to work on his offense. I've seen some Kentucky games, a few of them and I rarely saw this kid make an offensive move on his own.

I wish him the best of luck, and hope he recovers. If he works hard and get back, he could be exciting to watch.

(POST 3000 baby)
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: vjcsmoke on February 19, 2013, 06:47:16 PM
Noel's injury probably knocked him out of the top 3-5 picks.  But I think he'll still be in the lottery range.  Basically you need to be in top 10 to have a chance at him.  But good news is there's lots of big men in this year's draft.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: fitzhickey on February 19, 2013, 06:50:51 PM
I think that because of his injury he will stay at school for a year. I hope that in the not too distant future he is on the celtics roster, think he could be a defensive monster.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: Smokeeye123 on February 19, 2013, 07:33:33 PM
He's out for season eh? That's a real bummer.

I guess he needs to stay one more year in school. Unless he doesnt mind not being the number 1 overall pick.

I think he needs to stay for one more year anyways. His defense is there, but he still needs to work on his offense. I've seen some Kentucky games, a few of them and I rarely saw this kid make an offensive move on his own.

I wish him the best of luck, and hope he recovers. If he works hard and get back, he could be exciting to watch.

(POST 3000 baby)

He's not going to be the Number 1 pick next year even if he's healthy...Wiggins has got that down pat.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: saltlover on February 19, 2013, 08:12:42 PM
I think that because of his injury he will stay at school for a year. I hope that in the not too distant future he is on the celtics roster, think he could be a defensive monster.

That would be silly.  Most mock drafts since his injury still have him going #4-6.  He wasn't going #1 next year before he got hurt, so what does he gain from staying?  Only time to not heal quickly and drop further.  He should drop out of school tomorrow, go to rehab full-time, get drafted, and shoot 200 free throws a day while his knee is strengthening.  It's terrible he got hurt, and it would be a shame if he delayed his NBA career because of it.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: mr. dee on February 19, 2013, 08:30:23 PM
There are 4 possible ways to get him on the draft night.

1. Underperforming in College. It could be chemistry issue or injuries. (see Avery Bradley)

2. Being red-flagged in the draft and slide to us because other teams are afraid to take risk. (Jared Sullinger)

4. He becomes a player w/ a baggage (Royce White, Latrell Spreewell, Gilbert Arenas, etc.)

4. Danny will make a trade for a higher draft pick.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: diconzo on March 21, 2013, 09:27:43 PM
DA should definitely try for Noel. He would love to be here & is actually obtainable now that he won't be the first pick. We have a desperate need for a player like Noel and provided he recovered on schedule, could even contribute in his rookie year. Perfect complement post player to Sully, but I'm guessing if Danny made a push for Noel that Sully may have to go. He definitely has something planned, and I think that's why all 3 contracts (Williams, White, Randolph) have team options, rather than just non-guaranteed deals.
Title: Re: Nerlens Noel = A Future Celtics Star ?
Post by: lightspeed5 on March 21, 2013, 11:13:22 PM
nerlens will be going to the nba, the 2014 draft is LOADED and for him to stay would risk not being a lottery pick.og.com/Smileys/classic/tongue.gif