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Title: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 07, 2018, 09:02:20 AM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Tr1boy on February 07, 2018, 09:08:28 AM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.

what?

worst idea ever
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Green-18 on February 07, 2018, 09:10:55 AM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.

Awful return.  Belinelli would be a nice piece but he doesn't come close to Smart when it comes to overall impact on winning games.  No doubt he is an intelligent and skilled offensive player but the lack of athleticism would negate this against elite teams. 
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 07, 2018, 09:20:30 AM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.

what?

worst idea ever

If you are just going to dump Smart it could be could be good to pick up an offensive guard who conducts himself as a pro and could bring some shooting to the second unit. The Atlanta 2nd round pick would be a very high second round pick.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 07, 2018, 09:25:43 AM
Is this your trade idea or an actual rumor you've heard from some reliable source?

I absolutely hate it if true.  Not that Belinelli is worthless to this team -- the added shooting punch would be great.  But Marcus' value (IMO) far exceeds Marco's.   The loss of Smart's defensive presence and versatility (and play-making capability) at the end of games is hard to replace. Marco is also expiring.     

Tyreke, on the other hand, would be good value for Smart -- he can guard multiple positions and can pass the ball in addition to his scoring skill. 

Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 07, 2018, 09:34:46 AM
Is this your trade idea or an actual rumor you've heard from some reliable source?

I absolutely hate it if true.  Not that Belinelli is worthless to this team -- the added shooting punch would be great.  But Marcus' value (IMO) far exceeds Marco's.   The loss of Smart's defensive presence and versatility (and play-making capability) at the end of games is hard to replace. Marco is also expiring.     

Tyreke, on the other hand, would be good value for Smart -- he can guard multiple positions and can pass the ball in addition to his scoring skill.

Just an idea. If Evans deal doesn't happen, the Celtics need some shooting off the bench. Evans is also expiring and it's much more likely we could resign Belinelli to a small contract next offseason than being able to resign Evans. The high Alanta 2nd round pick ( either the 1st or 2nd pick in the 1st round)  would also have value to pick up some cheap young talent at the end of the year.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Surferdad on February 07, 2018, 10:05:12 AM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.

what?

worst idea ever

If you are just going to dump Smart it could be could be good to pick up an offensive guard who conducts himself as a pro and could bring some shooting to the second unit. The Atlanta 2nd round pick would be a very high second round pick.
Right, but that now a BIG 'if'.  Due to Smart's poor judgement, DA could re-sign him for less.  If it were me, I would keep him if you can re-sign in $10-12M range.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 07, 2018, 12:16:45 PM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.

what?

worst idea ever

If you are just going to dump Smart it could be could be good to pick up an offensive guard who conducts himself as a pro and could bring some shooting to the second unit. The Atlanta 2nd round pick would be a very high second round pick.
Right, but that now a BIG 'if'.  Due to Smart's poor judgement, DA could re-sign him for less.  If it were me, I would keep him if you can re-sign in $10-12M range.

It is a big if. danny may just be using trade rumors to fire up Marcus Smart but if Danny thinks he's gone at the end of the year for nothing then a deal is possible...
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: RJ87 on February 07, 2018, 12:22:55 PM
I don't think Danny would go from asking for a 1st and a rotation guy for Smart to settling for a 2nd and Marco.

With that said, Marco is available and we could use his scoring. I'd do Marco and a protected 2nd for Yabu and Nader.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 07, 2018, 12:41:54 PM
I don't think Danny would go from asking for a 1st and a rotation guy for Smart to settling for a 2nd and Marco.

With that said, Marco is available and we could use his scoring. I'd do Marco and a protected 2nd for Yabu and Nader.

I think you are right, unless he just wants him gone. Injuring your self in your hotel room is a bit of a red flag that your level of comment is somewhat askew.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 07, 2018, 12:48:55 PM
I don't think Danny would go from asking for a 1st and a rotation guy for Smart to settling for a 2nd and Marco.

With that said, Marco is available and we could use his scoring. I'd do Marco and a protected 2nd for Yabu and Nader.

I guess this proves your point: "According to Steve Bulpett of the Boston Herald, the Celtics don't seem willing to trade Smart for anything less than a player who can contribute this season and beyond" 
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: cons on February 07, 2018, 02:02:46 PM
we couldve just resigned gerald green. whats the real difference?
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: iadera on February 08, 2018, 02:48:26 AM
we couldve just resigned gerald green. whats the real difference?

Huge. Green is better and younger.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: goCeltics on February 08, 2018, 03:45:49 AM
troy daniels is another player i would be interested in, but yes please trade out marcus smart and his 47% ts and 94 offense rating per 100 poss, yes please get rid of him
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Neurotic Guy on February 08, 2018, 06:42:50 AM
I don't think Danny would go from asking for a 1st and a rotation guy for Smart to settling for a 2nd and Marco.

With that said, Marco is available and we could use his scoring. I'd do Marco and a protected 2nd for Yabu and Nader.

I think you are right, unless he just wants him gone. Injuring your self in your hotel room is a bit of a red flag that your level of comment is somewhat askew.

What's askew is probably not level of commitment but, as Danny has said, his ability to control his emotions.  I think Danny, CBS, teammates know Marcus pretty well at this point and have determined that his rare emotional outbursts to either be an acceptable part of the package with hope it will continue to improve over time, or they consider him a loose cannon who is not worth the risk that he comes with.  I think the recent incident may have moved the needle a little, but my guess is we'd be hearing Smart trade rumors whether or not he cut his hand.  Another guess is that Danny and CBS like Marcus, think he's worth sticking with, and won't trade him unless the return is solid.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: RockinRyA on February 08, 2018, 07:06:25 AM
troy daniels is another player i would be interested in, but yes please trade out marcus smart and his 47% ts and 94 offense rating per 100 poss, yes please get rid of him

Troy Daniels- 110 def rtg, -8.1 net rtg. Yeah sure, you'd rather have Troy Daniels than Marcus Smart. So glad guys like you have no say in the Celtics.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: SHAQATTACK on February 08, 2018, 07:13:51 AM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.

what?

worst idea ever

LOL

agree
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 09, 2018, 05:03:07 PM
It's looking like he might be signed to a minimum deal. The Celtics could use his shooting.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: rondofan1255 on February 09, 2018, 06:36:57 PM
Quote
ROSTER UPDATE: We have waived Marco Belinelli.

https://twitter.com/ATLHawks/status/962096698909749248
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: MJohnnyboy on February 09, 2018, 06:41:00 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think he's going to Miami. The Heat wanted him at the deadline but couldn't make a deal. They also have the $5.5 millon DPE from Waiters' injury so they'd have the most to offer.

Since he already has a ring, Belinelli may be more motivated by money than glory at this point.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: hpantazo on February 09, 2018, 06:44:15 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think he's going to Miami. The Heat wanted him at the deadline but couldn't make a deal. They also have the $5.5 millon DPE from Waiters' injury so they'd have the most to offer.

Since he already has a ring, Belinelli may be more motivated by money than glory at this point.

More money and the Miami weather, yeah, I can see him going for it.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: vjcsmoke on February 09, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
We'll see but him and Joe Johnson appear to be the most likely deadline targets for the Celtics.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: hpantazo on February 09, 2018, 06:50:21 PM
We'll see but him and Joe Johnson appear to be the most likely deadline targets for the Celtics.

I like him, but don't know if Joe Johnson has much left in the tank, even in a reserve role.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: footey on February 09, 2018, 06:56:38 PM
Prefer Belinelli to Johnson. He’d be our Korver equivalent.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: MJohnnyboy on February 09, 2018, 06:57:58 PM
We'll see but him and Joe Johnson appear to be the most likely deadline targets for the Celtics.

I like him, but don't know if Joe Johnson has much left in the tank, even in a reserve role.

We should bring him in just for the poetry.

He starts his career in Boston, leaves mid-season during his rookie year, comes back mid-season during his last year, ends his career in Boston.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 09, 2018, 11:06:28 PM
http://celticswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/09/potential-boston-celtics-target-marco-belinelli-reportedly-reaches-buyout-with-atlanta-hawks/
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 10, 2018, 02:37:51 PM
Joe Johnson signed in Houston. Marco time!?
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: footey on February 10, 2018, 02:43:13 PM
Belinelli rumored to be going to GSW unfortunately
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: hpantazo on February 10, 2018, 02:45:11 PM
Belinelli rumored to be going to GSW unfortunately

I just don't think the Celtics are highly interested in any of these guys. Our guard and wing spots are already full, and I think they know Hayward is coming back this season.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 10, 2018, 02:47:16 PM
Belinelli rumored to be going to GSW unfortunately

I just don't think the Celtics are highly interested in any of these guys. Our guard and wing spots are already full, and I think they know Hayward is coming back this season.

The Celtics need some more scoring/shooting.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: celticinorlando on February 10, 2018, 02:52:57 PM
Don't care. Get someone that can shoot off the bench

Maybe Ainge and company are just not that aggressive because they expect Hayward to return at some point
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: liam on February 10, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
Don't care. Get someone that can shoot off the bench

Maybe Ainge and company are just not that aggressive because they expect Hayward to return at some point

He could come back at some point but shooting/scoring off the bench is needed now...
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: hpantazo on February 10, 2018, 05:02:39 PM
Belinelli rumored to be going to GSW unfortunately

I just don't think the Celtics are highly interested in any of these guys. Our guard and wing spots are already full, and I think they know Hayward is coming back this season.

The Celtics need some more scoring/shooting.

And who's minutes would he take if you assume Hayward is back this season? I would not sit Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart or Rozier to play Belinelli. I wouldn't sit Semi either, but I don't see Semi getting minutes either at the end of this season.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Birdman on February 10, 2018, 05:55:16 PM
Montas Elliis!!!
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Monkhouse on February 10, 2018, 06:17:17 PM
Montas Elliis!!!

I hope you're joking...
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: G-Bones on February 10, 2018, 06:31:25 PM
Hayward!
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: Eja117 on February 10, 2018, 07:16:04 PM
Belinelli and a 2nd round pick for Smart, Belinelli averages 11.4 points and he’s shooting 41.1 percent from the field and 37.2 percent from 3.
I am eja and I'm known as the worst Smart hater ever and even I do not approve of this message.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: hodgy03038 on February 10, 2018, 08:52:17 PM
ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said the Thunder, Spurs and 76ers tried to obtain him at the deadline and they do have a roster spot, so they are the likely landing spots for the sharpshooter.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: CelticD on February 10, 2018, 10:07:04 PM
ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said the Thunder, Spurs and 76ers tried to obtain him at the deadline and they do have a roster spot, so they are the likely landing spots for the sharpshooter.

Looks like Sixers got him.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: hpantazo on February 10, 2018, 10:55:22 PM
ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said the Thunder, Spurs and 76ers tried to obtain him at the deadline and they do have a roster spot, so they are the likely landing spots for the sharpshooter.

Looks like Sixers got him.

He's a great fit on that team. They desperately need more shooting around Embiid and Simmons.
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: tazzmaniac on February 10, 2018, 10:57:19 PM
ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said the Thunder, Spurs and 76ers tried to obtain him at the deadline and they do have a roster spot, so they are the likely landing spots for the sharpshooter.

Looks like Sixers got him.
He's a great fit on that team. They desperately need more shooting around Embiid and Simmons.
Yep.  Should keep Bayless glued to the bench. 
Title: Re: Is it going to be Marco Belinelli?
Post by: saltlover on February 10, 2018, 10:57:47 PM
ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski said the Thunder, Spurs and 76ers tried to obtain him at the deadline and they do have a roster spot, so they are the likely landing spots for the sharpshooter.

Looks like Sixers got him.

Curious to see if he got the minimum or they gave him some of their $4 million room exception.