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Smart was also struggling with a major injury last season which obviously affected his quickness. I don't think a condensed and injury riddled season should be used to condemn him as being on the decline especially when he's 27. Also the ENTIRE defense for the Celtics was bad, not just Marcus Smart.
It is actually interesting, if the 76ers attempt to move Ben Simmons, the Celtics might actually have one of the best packages to obtain him.If you look at every teams assets and needs, there aren't many options for Daryl Morey.Nets - Won't trade for himBucks- Don't need himKnicks- Don't have the assetsHawks- No need for himHeat- Don't have the assets or needWizards- Won't give up Beal for himPacers- Simmons won't go thereHornets- No trade assetsBulls- LaVine? probably say noRaptors- Maybe a S & T with Lowry and OG/Siakam?Cavs- NoMagic- NoPistons- NoJazz- No needSuns- No needNuggets- No needClippers- No extra assetsMavericks- No assetsTrail Blazers- CJ for Simmons? Doesn't improve themLakers- No assetsGrizzlies- No needWarriors- bad fitSpurs- No assetsPelicans- bad fitKings- Not goingT-Wolves- bad fitThunder- NoRockets- No
I heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irving
Quote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 09:56:06 AMI heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irvinginteresting. would love to see how Kyrie reacts to Philly fans if he couldn't take the heat in Boston.
Quote from: slamtheking on June 24, 2021, 10:40:07 AMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 09:56:06 AMI heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irvinginteresting. would love to see how Kyrie reacts to Philly fans if he couldn't take the heat in Boston. If it did happen, the Nets front court would be Durant (6'10"), Simmons (6'11"), and Jordan (6'11"). BTW, Durant and Simmons are ultra unique big men with their size in how they can move like guards. And their both good defenders, especially Simmons.
Quote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: slamtheking on June 24, 2021, 10:40:07 AMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 09:56:06 AMI heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irvinginteresting. would love to see how Kyrie reacts to Philly fans if he couldn't take the heat in Boston. If it did happen, the Nets front court would be Durant (6'10"), Simmons (6'11"), and Jordan (6'11"). BTW, Durant and Simmons are ultra unique big men with their size in how they can move like guards. And their both good defenders, especially Simmons.That would be trouble. There'd be no pressure on Simmons to shoot next to Harden and Durant, which is good for him.However, Simmons would have to take a major backseat in terms of usage
Quote from: gouki88 on June 24, 2021, 06:16:43 PMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: slamtheking on June 24, 2021, 10:40:07 AMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 09:56:06 AMI heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irvinginteresting. would love to see how Kyrie reacts to Philly fans if he couldn't take the heat in Boston. If it did happen, the Nets front court would be Durant (6'10"), Simmons (6'11"), and Jordan (6'11"). BTW, Durant and Simmons are ultra unique big men with their size in how they can move like guards. And their both good defenders, especially Simmons.That would be trouble. There'd be no pressure on Simmons to shoot next to Harden and Durant, which is good for him.However, Simmons would have to take a major backseat in terms of usageBut with two major usage guys, would Simmons, who thrives with the ball in his hands and is a liability as a shooter when others are dominating the ball even be a player Brooklyn would look at if they were trading Kyrie? If Kyrie is being moved, I gotta think a star that can shoot has to be coming back. Or a genuine high quality center.
Quote from: nickagneta on June 24, 2021, 11:01:05 PMQuote from: gouki88 on June 24, 2021, 06:16:43 PMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: slamtheking on June 24, 2021, 10:40:07 AMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 09:56:06 AMI heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irvinginteresting. would love to see how Kyrie reacts to Philly fans if he couldn't take the heat in Boston. If it did happen, the Nets front court would be Durant (6'10"), Simmons (6'11"), and Jordan (6'11"). BTW, Durant and Simmons are ultra unique big men with their size in how they can move like guards. And their both good defenders, especially Simmons.That would be trouble. There'd be no pressure on Simmons to shoot next to Harden and Durant, which is good for him.However, Simmons would have to take a major backseat in terms of usageBut with two major usage guys, would Simmons, who thrives with the ball in his hands and is a liability as a shooter when others are dominating the ball even be a player Brooklyn would look at if they were trading Kyrie? If Kyrie is being moved, I gotta think a star that can shoot has to be coming back. Or a genuine high quality center.I think Simmons would be fantastic there because of what he offers defensively and his low post passing ability. A starting 5 of Harden, Harris, Durant, Simmons, Griffin is nasty. They could even more easily bring back Dinwiddie since there are clear back-up PG minutes available and he could certainly also play with Harden (whereas with both Irving and Harden, I don't think Dinwiddie comes back).
Quote from: Moranis on June 25, 2021, 09:26:23 AMQuote from: nickagneta on June 24, 2021, 11:01:05 PMQuote from: gouki88 on June 24, 2021, 06:16:43 PMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 11:03:59 AMQuote from: slamtheking on June 24, 2021, 10:40:07 AMQuote from: johnnygreen on June 24, 2021, 09:56:06 AMI heard on the 98.5 that Nets management is not happy with Kyrie. Obviously, a trade idea like this would have to be "approved" by Durant. This past season, may have shown Durant just how unreliable Kyrie was to the team.Nets - Ben SimmonsPhilly - Kyrie Irvinginteresting. would love to see how Kyrie reacts to Philly fans if he couldn't take the heat in Boston. If it did happen, the Nets front court would be Durant (6'10"), Simmons (6'11"), and Jordan (6'11"). BTW, Durant and Simmons are ultra unique big men with their size in how they can move like guards. And their both good defenders, especially Simmons.That would be trouble. There'd be no pressure on Simmons to shoot next to Harden and Durant, which is good for him.However, Simmons would have to take a major backseat in terms of usageBut with two major usage guys, would Simmons, who thrives with the ball in his hands and is a liability as a shooter when others are dominating the ball even be a player Brooklyn would look at if they were trading Kyrie? If Kyrie is being moved, I gotta think a star that can shoot has to be coming back. Or a genuine high quality center.I think Simmons would be fantastic there because of what he offers defensively and his low post passing ability. A starting 5 of Harden, Harris, Durant, Simmons, Griffin is nasty. They could even more easily bring back Dinwiddie since there are clear back-up PG minutes available and he could certainly also play with Harden (whereas with both Irving and Harden, I don't think Dinwiddie comes back). Simmons would be fantastic on any team that isn't asking him to carry the load offensively and has shooters. You just can't tie up all the money he makes on a team that doesn't have those conditions.If you're relying on him to put up points, you've lost. And Philly does depend on him too much.