Celtics starting unit vs bench unit. Who would win in a playoff series?

[Monkhouse]

The starters here & its not even close.

not even close? you must be jokin....

Are you saying it will be a sweep?

I disagree

Your best player, best big man, & best defender all on the same side plus Morris? 

Yeah, it's not that close.

Yes but the 2nd unit has better versatility and length in the PF/SF/SG area of the lineup

What happens when Irving goes on a dryspell/gets defended hard by multiple capable defenders?

You know Kyrie can actually defer & act like a facilitator too, right?

You know you're telling the same guy who believes that Kyrie is making this team worse, and that Rozier is better than him?

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=98561.0

Titled: 'Trade Irving for the Sake of the team.'

[celtics4ever33]

Hilarious.

Who is stopping Tatum?

Then you got Hayward, Rozier, and Brown to deal with .

Slow as Horford is getting dusted.......

Kyrie is the only reason that they would be favored by Vegas. I'd say the spread would be about -2.5

[Tr1boy]

The starters here & its not even close.

not even close? you must be jokin....

Are you saying it will be a sweep?

I disagree

Your best player, best big man, & best defender all on the same side plus Morris? 

Yeah, it's not that close.

Yes but the 2nd unit has better versatility and length in the PF/SF/SG area of the lineup

What happens when Irving goes on a dryspell/gets defended hard by multiple capable defenders?

You know Kyrie can actually defer & act like a facilitator too, right?

You know you're telling the same guy who believes that Kyrie is making this team worse, and that Rozier is better than him?

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=98561.0

Titled: 'Trade Irving for the Sake of the team.'

never said Rozier is better than him

jump the gun much?

Kyrie with the "tools" to work with this lineup....  still looks to go on gunning mode , especially starting in the 3rd

There is no reason for that... and in turn, this team is not functioning at a high level ... thus 5th place/inconsistent season thus far

[Silky]

Hilarious.

Who is stopping Tatum?

Then you got Hayward, Rozier, and Brown to deal with .

Slow as Horford is getting dusted.......

Kyrie is the only reason that they would be favored by Vegas. I'd say the spread would be about -2.5

Tatum and his step back iso will do a fine job of defending himself.

And if not, Smart will guard him.

[RockinRyA]

Hilarious.

Who is stopping Tatum?

Then you got Hayward, Rozier, and Brown to deal with .

Slow as Horford is getting dusted.......

Kyrie is the only reason that they would be favored by Vegas. I'd say the spread would be about -2.5

****. Horford has defended better wings than Hayward and Brown.

This is a no-brainer for me. Whichever team has Horford and Smart wins, esp when youve got a shot creator there.

[Surferdad]

I voted for the starters since they have better players, but the bench has a secret weapon:  depth.  While the starters must all play 48 minutes, the bench has subs to give them a blow.         

[celtics4ever33]

Hilarious.

Who is stopping Tatum?

Then you got Hayward, Rozier, and Brown to deal with .

Slow as Horford is getting dusted.......

Kyrie is the only reason that they would be favored by Vegas. I'd say the spread would be about -2.5

****. Horford has defended better wings than Hayward and Brown.

This is a no-brainer for me. Whichever team has Horford and Smart wins, esp when youve got a shot creator there.

Are you a bot?

Horford can't guard Brown or Hayward. He wont even be given that assignment for those reasons.

[bdm860]

The starters here & its not even close.

not even close? you must be jokin....

Are you saying it will be a sweep?

I disagree

Your best player, best big man, & best defender all on the same side plus Morris? 

Yeah, it's not that close.

He said playoffs though.  Come playoff time, which side do you expect to be healthy?  The side filled with injury-prone vets, or the one filled with C's ironmen in Rozier and Tatum 

Irving will hurt is knee while breaking someones ankles, Smart will hurt himself diving into the stands or from punching a player/picture frame/ref/fan, and Horford will get a concussion while flinching during a free throw.

So really it's Wanamker, Ojeleye, Morris (questionable - knee), Yabusele, Baynes vs Rozier, Brown (questionable - some minor injury) , Hayward (at 80%?), Tatum, Williams (injured/lost in the space-time continuum) replacing Theis (who will also likely be injured).  I like the second team here.

And is Brad Stevens coaching against himself in the ultimate chess match?

[Silky]

The starters here & its not even close.

not even close? you must be jokin....

Are you saying it will be a sweep?

I disagree

Your best player, best big man, & best defender all on the same side plus Morris? 

Yeah, it's not that close.

He said playoffs though.  Come playoff time, which side do you expect to be healthy?  The side filled with injury-prone vets, or the one filled with C's ironmen in Rozier and Tatum 

Irving will hurt is knee while breaking someones ankles, Smart will hurt himself diving into the stands or from punching a player/picture frame/ref/fan, and Horford will get a concussion while flinching during a free throw.

So really it's Wanamker, Ojeleye, Morris (questionable - knee), Yabusele, Baynes vs Rozier, Brown (questionable - some minor injury) , Hayward (at 80%?), Tatum, Williams (injured/lost in the space-time continuum) replacing Theis (who will also likely be injured).  I like the second team here.

And is Brad Stevens coaching against himself in the ultimate chess match?

I will take a team with Irving, Horford every time over that other team, injury concerns or not.

[Big333223]

I think it's pretty clearly the "starters" even moving Tatum to the "bench" and I'm not sure why that was done.

The "starters" have the best offensive player and the 2-3 best defenders.

[johnnygreen]

This sounds like a Irving versus Rozier debate, but camouflaged into a starters versus second unit argument. And to help steer the argument towards the second unit, the OP benched Tatum for some unknown reason. I’ll take the team with the best player, and that is Kyrie, hands down. BTW, if we’re going to change the starting unit, why not go with the original of Irving, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, and Horford?

[Monkhouse]

The starters here & its not even close.

not even close? you must be jokin....

Are you saying it will be a sweep?

I disagree

Your best player, best big man, & best defender all on the same side plus Morris? 

Yeah, it's not that close.

Yes but the 2nd unit has better versatility and length in the PF/SF/SG area of the lineup

What happens when Irving goes on a dryspell/gets defended hard by multiple capable defenders?

You know Kyrie can actually defer & act like a facilitator too, right?

You know you're telling the same guy who believes that Kyrie is making this team worse, and that Rozier is better than him?

https://forum.celticsstrong.com/index.php?topic=98561.0

Titled: 'Trade Irving for the Sake of the team.'

never said Rozier is better than him

jump the gun much?

Kyrie with the "tools" to work with this lineup....  still looks to go on gunning mode , especially starting in the 3rd

There is no reason for that... and in turn, this team is not functioning at a high level ... thus 5th place/inconsistent season thus far

I was under the impression that you were the one tooting the Rozier was better than Irving train.
If not, I apologize triboy, but your dislike for Irving has been pretty well known... This team is not better without Irving.

Let's be honest.

[gouki88]

The starters here & its not even close.

not even close? you must be jokin....

Are you saying it will be a sweep?

I disagree

Your best player, best big man, & best defender all on the same side plus Morris? 

Yeah, it's not that close.

Yes but the 2nd unit has better versatility and length in the PF/SF/SG area of the lineup

What happens when Irving goes on a dryspell/gets defended hard by multiple capable defenders?

Avery Bradley / Marcus Smart and Klay Thompson weren't even close to being adequate in terms of defending Irving in the Playoffs, so I really don't think Brown nor Rozier stand a chance

[Celtics4ever]

Our starters hand down would smoke our bench assuming they were motivated and rested!

[rondofan1255]

Listed starters definitely, ill go with 4-1 series win