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Title: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 15, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
Free agent Rajon Rondo has reached agreement on a one-year deal with the New Orleans Pelicans, league sources tell The Vertical.

So now Davis gets to play with 2 headcases for a whole season. Lol 

Lakers miss out on rondo, and one more team better than the fakers (and nets).
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: MVPPierceNoJoke on July 15, 2017, 02:08:16 PM
That team is going to be very  interesting. Either really good, or really bad
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: rondofan1255 on July 15, 2017, 02:09:38 PM
Curious to see whether it's for the veteran's minimum.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Fred Roberts on July 15, 2017, 02:12:37 PM
Rondo and Boogie are meant for one another.  Hope they can put a decent team together here. Horrid uniforms though. So miserable to look at.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: saltlover on July 15, 2017, 02:28:37 PM
Curious to see whether it's for the veteran's minimum.

They have most of their mid-level exception available, so I would expect it's using that.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 15, 2017, 02:35:28 PM
^ pretty crazy how at one point in time, it was A topic of discussion whether rondo deserves a max contract
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: mrceltics2013 on July 15, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
If the Celtics 3 max contract guys were boogie, Davis, and Rondo, no one would be complaining much lol.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: spikelovetheCelts on July 15, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Eja117 on July 15, 2017, 03:19:01 PM
If they stay healthy (huge if) I think that could be an absolutely incredible team
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: RJ87 on July 15, 2017, 03:27:34 PM
Rondo and Boogie played well together in Sac, you could tell they enjoyed playing together. That's gonna be a fun reunion.

Putting him with TWO offensively capable bigs should be a treat to watch. He's basically got a new age Shaq and KG to play with.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: droopdog7 on July 15, 2017, 03:47:30 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: green_bballers13 on July 15, 2017, 04:03:36 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.

I would take Rondo over Holiday 10/10 times.

It's hard to measure heart.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 15, 2017, 07:33:20 PM
They'll make the playoffs. Heard it here first
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: timpiker on July 15, 2017, 07:36:07 PM
Good for rondo.  Wonder how much $?  Hope him & boogie drive Davis crazy and Davis demands a trade to the C's
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on July 15, 2017, 07:45:22 PM
Happy for Rajon.

He's playing with 2 of the best bigs in the game right now.

As long as the coach gives him the KEYS from the GET GO they will be fine and should make the playoffs.

Trust Rondo.

He's proved himself in CHI - after a rocky start he finished WELL - giving BOS quite the scare and looking every bit as in control of things as he was from 2010-2012.

He was key in supporting the rookies as well.

Again I wish him well.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Roy H. on July 15, 2017, 07:52:15 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.

I would take Rondo over Holiday 10/10 times.

It's hard to measure heart.

What's wrong with Holiday's heart? He has yet to skip games for birthday parties, nor has he declined to play defense for seasons at a time. He gives effort even when not on national television, and isn't a stats padder.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Androslav on July 15, 2017, 08:00:29 PM
Anthony Davis - Rondo's last Celtic asisst! :D
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: ThaPreacher on July 15, 2017, 08:25:54 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.

I would take Rondo over Holiday 10/10 times.

It's hard to measure heart.

What's wrong with Holiday's heart? He has yet to skip games for birthday parties, nor has he declined to play defense for seasons at a time. He gives effort even when not on national television, and isn't a stats padder.

Ouch!
You forgot the Mavericks and Carlisle rant, connect 4 and feud with Ray Allen. 

I can feel your anger, it gives you focus, makes you stronger.
Take my weapon, strike me down.
Good! Your hate has made you powerful.
Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Rondo9 on July 15, 2017, 08:27:46 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.

I would take Rondo over Holiday 10/10 times.

It's hard to measure heart.

What's wrong with Holiday's heart? He has yet to skip games for birthday parties, nor has he declined to play defense for seasons at a time. He gives effort even when not on national television, and isn't a stats padder.

Eh, I think Rondo is a better fit than Holiday.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on July 15, 2017, 08:48:30 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.

I would take Rondo over Holiday 10/10 times.

It's hard to measure heart.

What's wrong with Holiday's heart? He has yet to skip games for birthday parties, nor has he declined to play defense for seasons at a time. He gives effort even when not on national television, and isn't a stats padder.

Ouch!
You forgot the Mavericks and Carlisle rant, connect 4 and feud with Ray Allen. 

I can feel your anger, it gives you focus, makes you stronger.
Take my weapon, strike me down.
Good! Your hate has made you powerful.
Now, fulfill your destiny and take your father's place at my side!

lol you'd think that Rajon Rondo (and Doc Rivers) was Darth Vader AND The Emperor (or vice versa).

Will never understand the vitriol towards these two on here.

Neither of them were / are perfect. But they are / were CELTIC.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: 2short on July 15, 2017, 09:16:45 PM
Happy for Rajon.

He's playing with 2 of the best bigs in the game right now.

As long as the coach gives him the KEYS from the GET GO they will be fine and should make the playoffs.

Trust Rondo.

He's proved himself in CHI - after a rocky start he finished WELL - giving BOS quite the scare and looking every bit as in control of things as he was from 2010-2012.

He was key in supporting the rookies as well.

Again I wish him well.
Rondo did well in Chicago even when benched, complete team player.  I do feel if he wasn't injured we do not get by Chicago.  Rondo was playing an amazing all around game. 
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Surferdad on July 15, 2017, 10:10:14 PM
More good news for the Laker pick.  Makes the Pels much better AND, he might have actually helped LAL with Lopez there.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 15, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
Everytime there's an espn article on rondo, someone in espn comments says how rondo helped the bulls in the playoff.. I don't understand this point, he did decent in 2 whole games. They got eliminated. It really doesn't matter if he won those games for the bulls because it was only 2 games.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Eja117 on July 15, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
I hope he can lead them to the playoffs. Holliday can play without the ball.
Yeah, I would not play Holiday out of position for Rondo.  Rondo is veteran insurance/back up in my mind.

I would take Rondo over Holiday 10/10 times.

It's hard to measure heart.

What's wrong with Holiday's heart? He has yet to skip games for birthday parties, nor has he declined to play defense for seasons at a time. He gives effort even when not on national television, and isn't a stats padder.
Ah yes. When Rondo was averaging more rebs than any other guard, or when he led the league in steals, or when he led the league in assists three times, or when he played through a dislocated elbow in the playoffs making shots with one arm, or that time in the 2011 playoffs where he became the only Celtic other than Bird to get a triple double in a game 7, or the time he became the only player in NBA history to go for 44, 10 assists, and 8 rebs in a playoff game, or the four all defensive teams....that was cause he was just a no heart stat peddler playing all his games on national television.

I never said we should trade Brady (go back...check it) but I'd put "We should trade Brady for Sanchez" up against that statement right there any day. 
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: GreenFaith1819 on July 15, 2017, 10:39:57 PM
Everytime there's an espn article on rondo, someone in espn comments says how rondo helped the bulls in the playoff.. I don't understand this point, he did decent in 2 whole games. They got eliminated. It really doesn't matter if he won those games for the bulls because it was only 2 games.

He DID help CHI - and proved to the NBA (and the world) that he can STILL put his handprints on a game and series.

To be quite honest - a part of me was CHEERING for him - to silence the hatred from some on here towards him.

Rajon Rondo controlled that series - showing / reminding us all what made him special while he was in BOS.

He gave us his Ricardo Montalban / Khan impression - even though his best days are slowly passing away.

(http://cdn3.meme.am/cache/instances/folder110/500x/64905110/star-trek-ii-khan-revenge-is-a-dish-best-served-cold.jpg)

YES - Rajon Rondo ALMOST came back from the dead to beat his old team. But I believe that he showed folks "just enough" to let us know he's still a very dangerous PG in this game.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Eja117 on July 15, 2017, 10:41:49 PM
Stat peddlers are always playing on torn ACLs and then showing up to play the next day. Happens all the time.

http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4701669/rondo-played-12-minutes-on-torn-acl (http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4701669/rondo-played-12-minutes-on-torn-acl)
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: green_bballers13 on July 16, 2017, 12:49:19 AM
Rondo went through many stretches where he was a warrior for the celtics. Holliday may have been similar in Philly or NO- I just can't remember (m)any times when I thought he was the best player on the court playing the hardest.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: tarheelsxxiii on July 16, 2017, 01:15:43 AM
Love Rondo, but hope this somehow upsets Anthony Davis.  I'm convinced that he's our ticket to the promised land.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 02:22:44 AM
^ agree. That locker room should be pretty funny after losses with 2 knuckleheads.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: the TRUTH on July 16, 2017, 03:32:49 AM
As others have said, I don't get the negativity by C's fans towards Rondo. Was he perfect? No, but he was the best player on the court in multiple playoff series that featured bigger stars than he was at the time, and as others have said, was an absolute warrior at times in Boston.

If he was as much of a malcontent as people would have you believe, then why is he still so close to Pierce, Garnett and Perk? Those guys were all winners that wouldn't stay close to someone that's no longer on their team if he was such a headcase.

I love the shape our franchise is in right now, but that doesn't mean that Rondo's career in Boston can/should be minimized.

If New Orleans stays healthy, that offense should be very tough to stop.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: obnoxiousmime on July 16, 2017, 04:02:26 AM
They never announce the contract figures when the sum is embarrassing. He never did get that big contract, in fact the most he's made is 14 mil/year last year with the Bulls. It's kind of amazing how his career has gone when you think about where he was 5-6 years ago.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: SHAQATTACK on July 16, 2017, 08:09:37 AM
good , its not lakers
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: PAOBoston on July 16, 2017, 08:47:48 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Surferdad on July 16, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: the TRUTH on July 16, 2017, 02:39:19 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.

Rondo obviously rode the coattails of the Big 3 in 2008 - no question, and maybe in 2009 as well. But the next four seasons (2010-13), he was at least the third best player on the team, and oftentimes the best player on the team. We don't come that close to beating the Heat in 2012 without Rondo's dominance - he was definitely our best player, and arguably the best player on the floor in that series, including LeBron. LeBron obviously had a monster Game 6, but Rondo was a flat out stud for that entire series.

It's fair to criticize him, but I don't think it's fair to criticize him without acknowledging his greatness as well.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 16, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: PAOBoston on July 16, 2017, 03:10:10 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
Not sure how that would work. They gave Holiday a big deal. I think Rondo is injury insurance for Holiday. Then again, NO plays with 2 centers. Wouldn't shock me to see them play with 2 PGs as well. Don't really understand the direction of that franchise.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: RJ87 on July 16, 2017, 03:18:54 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: PAOBoston on July 16, 2017, 03:19:48 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.

Rondo obviously rode the coattails of the Big 3 in 2008 - no question, and maybe in 2009 as well. But the next four seasons (2010-13), he was at least the third best player on the team, and oftentimes the best player on the team. We don't come that close to beating the Heat in 2012 without Rondo's dominance - he was definitely our best player, and arguably the best player on the floor in that series, including LeBron. LeBron obviously had a monster Game 6, but Rondo was a flat out stud for that entire series.

It's fair to criticize him, but I don't think it's fair to criticize him without acknowledging his greatness as well.
Greatness of Rondo? Rondo had great performances. Sure, I'll give him that. Problem was it was not sustained nor was it consistent. Their was also no greatness in his general attitude. His failure to develop as a player ultimately doomed the core as they could not carry the load like they could previously.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: RJ87 on July 16, 2017, 03:29:54 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.

Rondo obviously rode the coattails of the Big 3 in 2008 - no question, and maybe in 2009 as well. But the next four seasons (2010-13), he was at least the third best player on the team, and oftentimes the best player on the team. We don't come that close to beating the Heat in 2012 without Rondo's dominance - he was definitely our best player, and arguably the best player on the floor in that series, including LeBron. LeBron obviously had a monster Game 6, but Rondo was a flat out stud for that entire series.

It's fair to criticize him, but I don't think it's fair to criticize him without acknowledging his greatness as well.
Greatness of Rondo? Rondo had great performances. Sure, I'll give him that. Problem was it was not sustained nor was it consistent. Their was also no greatness in his general attitude. His failure to develop as a player ultimately doomed the core as they could not carry the load like they could previously.

KG's knee doomed that core. Ainge's persistent dangling of Ray Allen in trade talks and Ray getting sick of it doomed that core. The fact that we overstayed a 3 year window by 2 more years doomed that core.

Rondo's development - or in your opinion, lack thereof - was never the focus of the big 3 era. It was an off shoot. Laying the blame at his feet is wholly unfair and shortsighted.

Funny enough, if we close out game 7 and win in 2010, Rondo likely wins Finals MVP. Yet, somehow his lack of development doomed that core? Please.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 17, 2017, 12:25:48 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
I don't think it's clear. Rondo is getting paid back up money. The last time jrue played the 2 he didn't like it and he was bad
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: TheSundanceKid on July 17, 2017, 04:02:54 AM
Rondo's previous rep seems to really be hurting his stock around the league. Combine that with his ball dominance and the interested parties are limited.

People who dislike Rondo as a person will continue to disparage him but objectively it's pretty clear that he's still a starting level pg in this league. His performance against us in the playoffs should have been proof of his worth.

It should act as a warning for other guys in the league though, if you get yourself in a bad situation, act professionally or it can seriously damage the rest of your career.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Rhyso on July 17, 2017, 09:08:54 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
I don't think it's clear. Rondo is getting paid back up money. The last time jrue played the 2 he didn't like it and he was bad

The Pelicans backcourt is paper thin, which ever way it's cut Rondo will see big minutes (ie he's probably starting). It doesn't really matter as much if Holiday is bad at the two, they just need their best talent on the floor first because next up is Etwaun Moore and a rookie.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: BitterJim on July 17, 2017, 09:28:55 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it

Who do you think will star in the backcourt? I'd say Rondo/Jrue is a lot more likely than Jrue/E'twaun Moore or Jrue/Jordan Crawford

Also, are the Pelicans stealing all of our cast off guards?
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: spikelovetheCelts on July 17, 2017, 04:57:24 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
Not sure how that would work. They gave Holiday a big deal. I think Rondo is injury insurance for Holiday. Then again, NO plays with 2 centers. Wouldn't shock me to see them play with 2 PGs as well. Don't really understand the direction of that franchise.
Holiday played alot of 2 last year and he is good without the ball. Rondo can throw the lob withe best of them. AD and Cousins will get some easy baskets for sure. If Rondo is motivated he should have no problem leading the league in Assists. Should be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 17, 2017, 05:01:26 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it

Who do you think will star in the backcourt? I'd say Rondo/Jrue is a lot more likely than Jrue/E'twaun Moore or Jrue/Jordan Crawford

Also, are the Pelicans stealing all of our cast off guards?
jrue played the 2 before and publicly made it aware he didn't like it
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: BitterJim on July 17, 2017, 05:03:07 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it

Who do you think will star in the backcourt? I'd say Rondo/Jrue is a lot more likely than Jrue/E'twaun Moore or Jrue/Jordan Crawford

Also, are the Pelicans stealing all of our cast off guards?
jrue played the 2 before and publicly made it aware he didn't like it

I'm sure he'd like it more than coming off the bench
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 17, 2017, 05:06:21 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it

Who do you think will star in the backcourt? I'd say Rondo/Jrue is a lot more likely than Jrue/E'twaun Moore or Jrue/Jordan Crawford

Also, are the Pelicans stealing all of our cast off guards?
jrue played the 2 before and publicly made it aware he didn't like it

I'm sure he'd like it more than coming off the bench
jrue is getting paid 10 times more than rondo . Rondo came off the bench for bulls a lot. I don't see why that wouldn't reoccur
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: RJ87 on July 18, 2017, 12:16:32 PM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
I don't think it's clear. Rondo is getting paid back up money. The last time jrue played the 2 he didn't like it and he was bad

Again, this is pretty clearly the plan for NO:
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Gentry: Starting Rondo and Jrue together is the idea going into the season. We spoke to Jrue at length about this
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: CelticsElite on July 19, 2017, 02:56:36 AM
I'm just surprised gentry is still a coach in the NBA
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: Roy H. on July 19, 2017, 06:29:53 AM
I'm just surprised gentry is still a coach in the NBA

Yeah. He's been terrible with the Pelicans. He and Demps both need to go.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: 2short on July 19, 2017, 06:33:09 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it

Who do you think will star in the backcourt? I'd say Rondo/Jrue is a lot more likely than Jrue/E'twaun Moore or Jrue/Jordan Crawford

Also, are the Pelicans stealing all of our cast off guards?
jrue played the 2 before and publicly made it aware he didn't like it

I'm sure he'd like it more than coming off the bench
jrue is getting paid 10 times more than rondo . Rondo came off the bench for bulls a lot. I don't see why that wouldn't reoccur
Funny thing is rondo and a few other bulls came off bench even though they shouldn't have but to rondos credit he was 100% team player
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: BitterJim on July 19, 2017, 06:43:41 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.
doubt it

Who do you think will star in the backcourt? I'd say Rondo/Jrue is a lot more likely than Jrue/E'twaun Moore or Jrue/Jordan Crawford

Also, are the Pelicans stealing all of our cast off guards?
jrue played the 2 before and publicly made it aware he didn't like it

I'm sure he'd like it more than coming off the bench
jrue is getting paid 10 times more than rondo . Rondo came off the bench for bulls a lot. I don't see why that wouldn't reoccur

Because the Bulls had a more talented backcourt than the Pels. Rondo is closer to the best guard they have than the 3rd best. It would make no sense to start Jrue and Moore and have Rondo come off the bench when Jrue can play off the ball
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: PAOBoston on July 19, 2017, 08:03:26 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
I don't think it's clear. Rondo is getting paid back up money. The last time jrue played the 2 he didn't like it and he was bad

Again, this is pretty clearly the plan for NO:
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Alvin Gentry says on the @DuncandHolder podcast that he plans to start Jrue Holiday as the #Pelicans' starting SG, alongside Rondo at PG
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If you say that starting Rondo is dumb, that's fine. If you say Jrue off the ball is dumb, you probably haven't watched enough of the Pels.
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Gentry: Starting Rondo and Jrue together is the idea going into the season. We spoke to Jrue at length about this
That's interesting. They might have some serious floor spacing problems.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: jambr380 on July 19, 2017, 08:12:42 AM
jrue is getting paid 10 times more than rondo . Rondo came off the bench for bulls a lot. I don't see why that wouldn't reoccur

Are you sure about that?

I know HoopsHype has his salary at $3M, but no team affiliation is listed. When you look at the Pelicans, neither his name nor salary are listed. I believe the $3M you see is the 'dead' money from the Bulls, not his new contract.

I am pretty sure Rondo signed with the Pelicans with the assumption of a starting job.
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: saltlover on July 19, 2017, 08:18:10 AM
jrue is getting paid 10 times more than rondo . Rondo came off the bench for bulls a lot. I don't see why that wouldn't reoccur

Are you sure about that?

I know HoopsHype has his salary at $3M, but no team affiliation is listed. When you look at the Pelicans, neither his name nor salary are listed. I believe the $3M you see is the 'dead' money from the Bulls, not his new contract.

I am pretty sure Rondo signed with the Pelicans with the assumption of a starting job.

Yeah, Rondo is absolutely starting.  Holiday might get paid 3-4x more, but they're both starting, because neither of those two is going to come off the bench behind Jordan Crawford or E'Twaun Moore.  You play the guys with the most talent, and there is a serious drop off after the top two guards in New Orleans (and they don't have the wings to start one of them at the 2, either.)
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: BitterJim on July 19, 2017, 08:23:02 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
I don't think it's clear. Rondo is getting paid back up money. The last time jrue played the 2 he didn't like it and he was bad

Again, this is pretty clearly the plan for NO:
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If you say that starting Rondo is dumb, that's fine. If you say Jrue off the ball is dumb, you probably haven't watched enough of the Pels.
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Gentry: Starting Rondo and Jrue together is the idea going into the season. We spoke to Jrue at length about this
That's interesting. They might have some serious floor spacing problems.

I don't know about that.  Boogie (36.1% last year) is a good 3 point shooter, AD (29.9% last year) is okay for a big, and Rondo shot 37.6% on 3s last year (and 36.5% the year before, so it doesn't look like a fluke).  Throw in 36.6% career from Jrue and 34.8% last year from Solomon hill (who I assume will start at SF) and they should be solid from 3.  Rondo's passing my even bring the numbers up for a couple of those guys
Title: Re: Rondo signs with Pelicans
Post by: saltlover on July 19, 2017, 09:05:32 AM
Went from the riding the coattails of the Big 3 to being a back for Jrue Holiday. Yikes. Talk about a downward spiral. Thankfully Ainge got rid of this bum just in time.
Rondo and Holiday will start together in the backcourt.

That clearly seems to be the plan as it's been stated they think Jrue played best with the Twin Towers Redux when he was off the ball.
I don't think it's clear. Rondo is getting paid back up money. The last time jrue played the 2 he didn't like it and he was bad

Again, this is pretty clearly the plan for NO:
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Alvin Gentry says on the @DuncandHolder podcast that he plans to start Jrue Holiday as the #Pelicans' starting SG, alongside Rondo at PG
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If you say that starting Rondo is dumb, that's fine. If you say Jrue off the ball is dumb, you probably haven't watched enough of the Pels.
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Gentry: Starting Rondo and Jrue together is the idea going into the season. We spoke to Jrue at length about this
That's interesting. They might have some serious floor spacing problems.

I don't know about that.  Boogie (36.1% last year) is a good 3 point shooter, AD (29.9% last year) is okay for a big, and Rondo shot 37.6% on 3s last year (and 36.5% the year before, so it doesn't look like a fluke).  Throw in 36.6% career from Jrue and 34.8% last year from Solomon hill (who I assume will start at SF) and they should be solid from 3.  Rondo's passing my even bring the numbers up for a couple of those guys

The league average from 3 is 35.8%.  Their best shooters are at best slightly above average.  They're going to have a little trouble with spacing.  I think AD and Boogie should be able to make up for it, because they are a team that can truly play inside-out basketball, but there's no one in that lineup who scares you from 3.  Their point generation will need to come from the interior -- if they get into a perimeter matchup with another team, it's not going to go well.